Flywheel removal
#131
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Re: Flywheel removal
My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
bearing in that.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Mike -
>
> I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
> new
> bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> that
> is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> machined.
>
> Thanks to all for the help so far.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>
>> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>> the engine.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >
>> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> is on
>> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> head
>> > hurts.
>> >
>> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> back
>> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> bearing
>> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> the
>> > trans up there.
>> >
>> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> back
>> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> pressure
>> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >
>> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> > >
>> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> > >
>> > > Robb S wrote:
>> > > >LOL
>> > > >
>> > > >> Let's hope.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
>
bearing in that.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Mike -
>
> I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
> new
> bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> that
> is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> machined.
>
> Thanks to all for the help so far.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>
>> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>> the engine.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >
>> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> is on
>> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> head
>> > hurts.
>> >
>> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> back
>> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> bearing
>> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> the
>> > trans up there.
>> >
>> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> back
>> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> pressure
>> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >
>> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> > >
>> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> > >
>> > > Robb S wrote:
>> > > >LOL
>> > > >
>> > > >> Let's hope.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
>
#132
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Re: Flywheel removal
My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
bearing in that.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Mike -
>
> I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
> new
> bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> that
> is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> machined.
>
> Thanks to all for the help so far.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>
>> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>> the engine.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >
>> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> is on
>> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> head
>> > hurts.
>> >
>> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> back
>> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> bearing
>> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> the
>> > trans up there.
>> >
>> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> back
>> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> pressure
>> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >
>> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> > >
>> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> > >
>> > > Robb S wrote:
>> > > >LOL
>> > > >
>> > > >> Let's hope.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
>
bearing in that.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Mike -
>
> I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
> new
> bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> that
> is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> machined.
>
> Thanks to all for the help so far.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>
>> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>> the engine.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >
>> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> is on
>> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> head
>> > hurts.
>> >
>> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> back
>> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> bearing
>> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> the
>> > trans up there.
>> >
>> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> back
>> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> pressure
>> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >
>> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> > >
>> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> > >
>> > > Robb S wrote:
>> > > >LOL
>> > > >
>> > > >> Let's hope.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
>
#133
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Re: Flywheel removal
My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
bearing in that.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Mike -
>
> I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
> new
> bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> that
> is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> machined.
>
> Thanks to all for the help so far.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>
>> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>> the engine.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >
>> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> is on
>> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> head
>> > hurts.
>> >
>> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> back
>> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> bearing
>> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> the
>> > trans up there.
>> >
>> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> back
>> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> pressure
>> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >
>> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> > >
>> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> > >
>> > > Robb S wrote:
>> > > >LOL
>> > > >
>> > > >> Let's hope.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
>
bearing in that.
"Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> Mike -
>
> I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
> new
> bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> that
> is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> machined.
>
> Thanks to all for the help so far.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>
>> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>> the engine.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >
>> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> is on
>> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> head
>> > hurts.
>> >
>> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> back
>> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> bearing
>> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> the
>> > trans up there.
>> >
>> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> back
>> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> pressure
>> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >
>> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> > >
>> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> > >
>> > > Robb S wrote:
>> > > >LOL
>> > > >
>> > > >> Let's hope.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
>
#134
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Re: Flywheel removal
Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
5 bolts in an offset pattern.
When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> bearing in that.
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Mike -
> >
> > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
> > new
> > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> > that
> > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> > machined.
> >
> > Thanks to all for the help so far.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
> >>
> >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> >> the engine.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> > is on
> >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> > head
> >> > hurts.
> >> >
> >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> > back
> >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> > bearing
> >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> > the
> >> > trans up there.
> >> >
> >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> > back
> >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> > pressure
> >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >> >
> >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >> >
> >> > Carl
> >> >
> >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> >> > >
> >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> >> > >
> >> > > Robb S wrote:
> >> > > >LOL
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Let's hope.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
> >
> >
engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
5 bolts in an offset pattern.
When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> bearing in that.
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Mike -
> >
> > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
> > new
> > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> > that
> > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> > machined.
> >
> > Thanks to all for the help so far.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
> >>
> >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> >> the engine.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> > is on
> >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> > head
> >> > hurts.
> >> >
> >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> > back
> >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> > bearing
> >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> > the
> >> > trans up there.
> >> >
> >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> > back
> >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> > pressure
> >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >> >
> >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >> >
> >> > Carl
> >> >
> >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> >> > >
> >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> >> > >
> >> > > Robb S wrote:
> >> > > >LOL
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Let's hope.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
> >
> >
#135
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal
Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
5 bolts in an offset pattern.
When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> bearing in that.
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Mike -
> >
> > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
> > new
> > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> > that
> > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> > machined.
> >
> > Thanks to all for the help so far.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
> >>
> >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> >> the engine.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> > is on
> >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> > head
> >> > hurts.
> >> >
> >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> > back
> >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> > bearing
> >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> > the
> >> > trans up there.
> >> >
> >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> > back
> >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> > pressure
> >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >> >
> >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >> >
> >> > Carl
> >> >
> >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> >> > >
> >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> >> > >
> >> > > Robb S wrote:
> >> > > >LOL
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Let's hope.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
> >
> >
engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
5 bolts in an offset pattern.
When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> bearing in that.
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Mike -
> >
> > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
> > new
> > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> > that
> > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> > machined.
> >
> > Thanks to all for the help so far.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
> >>
> >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> >> the engine.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> > is on
> >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> > head
> >> > hurts.
> >> >
> >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> > back
> >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> > bearing
> >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> > the
> >> > trans up there.
> >> >
> >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> > back
> >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> > pressure
> >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >> >
> >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >> >
> >> > Carl
> >> >
> >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> >> > >
> >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> >> > >
> >> > > Robb S wrote:
> >> > > >LOL
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Let's hope.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
> >
> >
#136
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal
Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
5 bolts in an offset pattern.
When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> bearing in that.
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Mike -
> >
> > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
> > new
> > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> > that
> > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> > machined.
> >
> > Thanks to all for the help so far.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
> >>
> >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> >> the engine.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> > is on
> >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> > head
> >> > hurts.
> >> >
> >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> > back
> >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> > bearing
> >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> > the
> >> > trans up there.
> >> >
> >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> > back
> >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> > pressure
> >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >> >
> >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >> >
> >> > Carl
> >> >
> >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> >> > >
> >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> >> > >
> >> > > Robb S wrote:
> >> > > >LOL
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Let's hope.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
> >
> >
engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
5 bolts in an offset pattern.
When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> bearing in that.
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Mike -
> >
> > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
> > new
> > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> > that
> > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> > machined.
> >
> > Thanks to all for the help so far.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
> >>
> >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> >> the engine.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> > is on
> >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> > head
> >> > hurts.
> >> >
> >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> > back
> >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> > bearing
> >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> > the
> >> > trans up there.
> >> >
> >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> > back
> >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> > pressure
> >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >> >
> >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >> >
> >> > Carl
> >> >
> >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> >> > >
> >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> >> > >
> >> > > Robb S wrote:
> >> > > >LOL
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Let's hope.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
> >
> >
#137
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal
Ok.... I am missing something here or someone is..... I have had an 86
engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
5 bolts in an offset pattern.
When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> bearing in that.
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Mike -
> >
> > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
> > new
> > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> > that
> > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> > machined.
> >
> > Thanks to all for the help so far.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
> >>
> >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> >> the engine.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> > is on
> >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> > head
> >> > hurts.
> >> >
> >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> > back
> >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> > bearing
> >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> > the
> >> > trans up there.
> >> >
> >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> > back
> >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> > pressure
> >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >> >
> >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >> >
> >> > Carl
> >> >
> >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> >> > >
> >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> >> > >
> >> > > Robb S wrote:
> >> > > >LOL
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Let's hope.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
> >
> >
engine apart, an 89, a 91 and my current engine is a 78.
All of these engines have a flywheel bolted onto the end of the crank.
The hole in the flywheel is about 4" big with the end of the crank
sitting in this hole. In the crank there is a hole for the pilot
bushing (CJ's) or bearing (YJ's).
When I take this flywheel and ring gear off, I have a 4" hole in it with
5 bolts in an offset pattern.
When I took the cranks in to get them turned, the shops pulled out the
old pilot bearing for me so I could put a new one into the end of the
crank. I did not take the flywheels in with me.
Here is a drawing (A Bill H link) exactly the same all the 258 engines I
have worked on showing the pilot bushing as part number 1.043-1. This
also shows it as a crank part with a perfect example of 'all' the
flywheels I have ever seen on a 258.
http://amccf.com/tech/new/SIX-block_crank_cam.jpg
Mike
Greg wrote:
>
> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> bearing in that.
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
> > Mike -
> >
> > I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
> > new
> > bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
> > that
> > is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
> > machined.
> >
> > Thanks to all for the help so far.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> >> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> >> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> >> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
> >>
> >> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> >> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> >> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> >> the engine.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>
> >> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> > is on
> >> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> >> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> > head
> >> > hurts.
> >> >
> >> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> > back
> >> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> > bearing
> >> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> >> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> > the
> >> > trans up there.
> >> >
> >> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> > back
> >> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> > pressure
> >> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> >> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >> >
> >> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >> >
> >> > Carl
> >> >
> >> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> >> > >
> >> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> >> > >
> >> > > Robb S wrote:
> >> > > >LOL
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> Let's hope.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
> >
> >
#138
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal
What size engine did you have? The 258 certainly isn't like that.
Here's what a typical traditional flywheel and pilot bushing assembly
looks like (not a Jeep flywheel, but close enough for illustration
purposes):
<URL:http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/flywheel/removeflywheel.JPG>
And here's what a traditional clutch assembly looks like in exploded view:
<URL:http://www.ramclutches.com/Clutch%20U/Clutch%20U%20images/clutch_system.jpg>
Notice how much smaller the bushing is that the hole in the flywheel.
For the 232/258 it sets into a recess in the end of the crank. Some
models have a stepped hole in the crank that will accept either of two
different sized bushings.
Greg wrote:
> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> bearing in that.
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>
>>Mike -
>>
>>I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
>>new
>>bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
>>that
>>is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
>>machined.
>>
>>Thanks to all for the help so far.
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>>>center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>>>pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>>
>>>You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>>>Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>>>the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>>>the engine.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Carl Saiyed wrote:
>>>
>>>>The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
>>
>>is on
>>
>>>>the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>>>>exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
>>
>>head
>>
>>>>hurts.
>>>>
>>>>I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
>>
>>bearing
>>
>>>>and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>>>>flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>trans up there.
>>>>
>>>>The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
>>
>>pressure
>>
>>>>plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>>>>getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>>>>
>>>>still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>>>>
>>>>Carl
>>>>
>>>>"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>>>>
>>>>>SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>>>>>
>>>>>Robb S wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's hope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>>
>>
>
>
Here's what a typical traditional flywheel and pilot bushing assembly
looks like (not a Jeep flywheel, but close enough for illustration
purposes):
<URL:http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/flywheel/removeflywheel.JPG>
And here's what a traditional clutch assembly looks like in exploded view:
<URL:http://www.ramclutches.com/Clutch%20U/Clutch%20U%20images/clutch_system.jpg>
Notice how much smaller the bushing is that the hole in the flywheel.
For the 232/258 it sets into a recess in the end of the crank. Some
models have a stepped hole in the crank that will accept either of two
different sized bushings.
Greg wrote:
> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> bearing in that.
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>
>>Mike -
>>
>>I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
>>new
>>bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
>>that
>>is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
>>machined.
>>
>>Thanks to all for the help so far.
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>>>center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>>>pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>>
>>>You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>>>Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>>>the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>>>the engine.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Carl Saiyed wrote:
>>>
>>>>The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
>>
>>is on
>>
>>>>the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>>>>exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
>>
>>head
>>
>>>>hurts.
>>>>
>>>>I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
>>
>>bearing
>>
>>>>and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>>>>flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>trans up there.
>>>>
>>>>The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
>>
>>pressure
>>
>>>>plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>>>>getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>>>>
>>>>still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>>>>
>>>>Carl
>>>>
>>>>"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>>>>
>>>>>SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>>>>>
>>>>>Robb S wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's hope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>>
>>
>
>
#139
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal
What size engine did you have? The 258 certainly isn't like that.
Here's what a typical traditional flywheel and pilot bushing assembly
looks like (not a Jeep flywheel, but close enough for illustration
purposes):
<URL:http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/flywheel/removeflywheel.JPG>
And here's what a traditional clutch assembly looks like in exploded view:
<URL:http://www.ramclutches.com/Clutch%20U/Clutch%20U%20images/clutch_system.jpg>
Notice how much smaller the bushing is that the hole in the flywheel.
For the 232/258 it sets into a recess in the end of the crank. Some
models have a stepped hole in the crank that will accept either of two
different sized bushings.
Greg wrote:
> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> bearing in that.
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>
>>Mike -
>>
>>I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
>>new
>>bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
>>that
>>is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
>>machined.
>>
>>Thanks to all for the help so far.
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>>>center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>>>pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>>
>>>You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>>>Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>>>the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>>>the engine.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Carl Saiyed wrote:
>>>
>>>>The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
>>
>>is on
>>
>>>>the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>>>>exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
>>
>>head
>>
>>>>hurts.
>>>>
>>>>I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
>>
>>bearing
>>
>>>>and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>>>>flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>trans up there.
>>>>
>>>>The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
>>
>>pressure
>>
>>>>plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>>>>getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>>>>
>>>>still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>>>>
>>>>Carl
>>>>
>>>>"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>>>>
>>>>>SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>>>>>
>>>>>Robb S wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's hope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>>
>>
>
>
Here's what a typical traditional flywheel and pilot bushing assembly
looks like (not a Jeep flywheel, but close enough for illustration
purposes):
<URL:http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/flywheel/removeflywheel.JPG>
And here's what a traditional clutch assembly looks like in exploded view:
<URL:http://www.ramclutches.com/Clutch%20U/Clutch%20U%20images/clutch_system.jpg>
Notice how much smaller the bushing is that the hole in the flywheel.
For the 232/258 it sets into a recess in the end of the crank. Some
models have a stepped hole in the crank that will accept either of two
different sized bushings.
Greg wrote:
> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> bearing in that.
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>
>>Mike -
>>
>>I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
>>new
>>bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
>>that
>>is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
>>machined.
>>
>>Thanks to all for the help so far.
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>>>center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>>>pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>>
>>>You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>>>Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>>>the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>>>the engine.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Carl Saiyed wrote:
>>>
>>>>The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
>>
>>is on
>>
>>>>the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>>>>exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
>>
>>head
>>
>>>>hurts.
>>>>
>>>>I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
>>
>>bearing
>>
>>>>and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>>>>flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>trans up there.
>>>>
>>>>The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
>>
>>pressure
>>
>>>>plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>>>>getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>>>>
>>>>still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>>>>
>>>>Carl
>>>>
>>>>"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>>>>
>>>>>SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>>>>>
>>>>>Robb S wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's hope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>>
>>
>
>
#140
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal
What size engine did you have? The 258 certainly isn't like that.
Here's what a typical traditional flywheel and pilot bushing assembly
looks like (not a Jeep flywheel, but close enough for illustration
purposes):
<URL:http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/flywheel/removeflywheel.JPG>
And here's what a traditional clutch assembly looks like in exploded view:
<URL:http://www.ramclutches.com/Clutch%20U/Clutch%20U%20images/clutch_system.jpg>
Notice how much smaller the bushing is that the hole in the flywheel.
For the 232/258 it sets into a recess in the end of the crank. Some
models have a stepped hole in the crank that will accept either of two
different sized bushings.
Greg wrote:
> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> bearing in that.
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>
>>Mike -
>>
>>I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
>>new
>>bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
>>that
>>is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
>>machined.
>>
>>Thanks to all for the help so far.
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>>>center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>>>pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>>
>>>You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>>>Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>>>the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>>>the engine.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Carl Saiyed wrote:
>>>
>>>>The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
>>
>>is on
>>
>>>>the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>>>>exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
>>
>>head
>>
>>>>hurts.
>>>>
>>>>I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
>>
>>bearing
>>
>>>>and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>>>>flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>trans up there.
>>>>
>>>>The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
>>
>>pressure
>>
>>>>plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>>>>getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>>>>
>>>>still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>>>>
>>>>Carl
>>>>
>>>>"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>>>>
>>>>>SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>>>>>
>>>>>Robb S wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's hope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>>
>>
>
>
Here's what a typical traditional flywheel and pilot bushing assembly
looks like (not a Jeep flywheel, but close enough for illustration
purposes):
<URL:http://www.240sx.org/links/installs/flywheel/removeflywheel.JPG>
And here's what a traditional clutch assembly looks like in exploded view:
<URL:http://www.ramclutches.com/Clutch%20U/Clutch%20U%20images/clutch_system.jpg>
Notice how much smaller the bushing is that the hole in the flywheel.
For the 232/258 it sets into a recess in the end of the crank. Some
models have a stepped hole in the crank that will accept either of two
different sized bushings.
Greg wrote:
> My 81 CJ was exactly as you discribe, hole in the middle of flywheel,
> bearing in that.
>
> "Carl Saiyed" <carlsaiyed@REMOVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:42eedae3_1@newsfeed.slurp.net...
>
>>Mike -
>>
>>I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The
>>new
>>bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing
>>that
>>is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
>>machined.
>>
>>Thanks to all for the help so far.
>>
>>Carl
>>
>>
>>"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>>news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>>
>>>You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>>>center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>>>pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>>
>>>You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>>>Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>>>the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>>>the engine.
>>>
>>>Mike
>>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>>
>>>Carl Saiyed wrote:
>>>
>>>>The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
>>
>>is on
>>
>>>>the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>>>>exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
>>
>>head
>>
>>>>hurts.
>>>>
>>>>I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
>>
>>bearing
>>
>>>>and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>>>>flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>trans up there.
>>>>
>>>>The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
>>
>>back
>>
>>>>on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
>>
>>pressure
>>
>>>>plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>>>>getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>>>>
>>>>still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>>>>
>>>>Carl
>>>>
>>>>"Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>>>>
>>>>>SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>>>>>
>>>>>Robb S wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>LOL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let's hope.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>>
>>
>
>