Flywheel removal
#101
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Re: Flywheel removal
"Carl Saiyed" Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it the trans up
there."
Without a transmission jack it is hard to put one in. You can try balancing
it on a floor jack but take the chance of damaging the transmission if
dropped. They make an adapter that fits a floor jack that you can use to
pick it up.
Before I bought one for about 50 dollars, I tried lifting them up manually.
I even laid a set of double stack 2 X 10 across the fenders and used a
scissors jack to lift the transmission. I secured a chain to the
transmission and to the frame of the vehicle.I then ran the chain over the
scissors jack which was placed on the 2 X10. I then cranked up the
transmission. As I ran out of lift, I would block the transmission with
wood and lower the jack. Choke up on the chain and repeat process. Once at
the right height, I then stabbed the transmission in position and bolt it
up.
Sarge
there."
Without a transmission jack it is hard to put one in. You can try balancing
it on a floor jack but take the chance of damaging the transmission if
dropped. They make an adapter that fits a floor jack that you can use to
pick it up.
Before I bought one for about 50 dollars, I tried lifting them up manually.
I even laid a set of double stack 2 X 10 across the fenders and used a
scissors jack to lift the transmission. I secured a chain to the
transmission and to the frame of the vehicle.I then ran the chain over the
scissors jack which was placed on the 2 X10. I then cranked up the
transmission. As I ran out of lift, I would block the transmission with
wood and lower the jack. Choke up on the chain and repeat process. Once at
the right height, I then stabbed the transmission in position and bolt it
up.
Sarge
#102
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Re: Flywheel removal
I read in a manual that you can fill the pilot bearing with grease, and
slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
know.
I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>
> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> the engine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
is on
> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
head
> > hurts.
> >
> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
back
> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
bearing
> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
the
> > trans up there.
> >
> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
back
> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
pressure
> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >
> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >
> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >
> > > Robb S wrote:
> > > >LOL
> > > >
> > > >> Let's hope.
> > > >>
> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
know.
I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>
> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> the engine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
is on
> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
head
> > hurts.
> >
> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
back
> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
bearing
> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
the
> > trans up there.
> >
> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
back
> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
pressure
> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >
> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >
> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >
> > > Robb S wrote:
> > > >LOL
> > > >
> > > >> Let's hope.
> > > >>
> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
#103
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Re: Flywheel removal
I read in a manual that you can fill the pilot bearing with grease, and
slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
know.
I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>
> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> the engine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
is on
> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
head
> > hurts.
> >
> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
back
> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
bearing
> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
the
> > trans up there.
> >
> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
back
> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
pressure
> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >
> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >
> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >
> > > Robb S wrote:
> > > >LOL
> > > >
> > > >> Let's hope.
> > > >>
> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
know.
I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>
> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> the engine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
is on
> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
head
> > hurts.
> >
> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
back
> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
bearing
> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
the
> > trans up there.
> >
> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
back
> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
pressure
> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >
> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >
> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >
> > > Robb S wrote:
> > > >LOL
> > > >
> > > >> Let's hope.
> > > >>
> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
#104
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Re: Flywheel removal
I read in a manual that you can fill the pilot bearing with grease, and
slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
know.
I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>
> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> the engine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
is on
> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
head
> > hurts.
> >
> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
back
> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
bearing
> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
the
> > trans up there.
> >
> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
back
> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
pressure
> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >
> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >
> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >
> > > Robb S wrote:
> > > >LOL
> > > >
> > > >> Let's hope.
> > > >>
> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
know.
I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>
> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> the engine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
is on
> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
head
> > hurts.
> >
> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
back
> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
bearing
> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
the
> > trans up there.
> >
> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
back
> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
pressure
> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >
> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >
> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >
> > > Robb S wrote:
> > > >LOL
> > > >
> > > >> Let's hope.
> > > >>
> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
#105
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal
I read in a manual that you can fill the pilot bearing with grease, and
slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
know.
I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>
> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> the engine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
is on
> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
head
> > hurts.
> >
> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
back
> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
bearing
> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
the
> > trans up there.
> >
> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
back
> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
pressure
> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >
> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >
> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >
> > > Robb S wrote:
> > > >LOL
> > > >
> > > >> Let's hope.
> > > >>
> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
know.
I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>
> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> the engine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
is on
> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
head
> > hurts.
> >
> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
back
> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
bearing
> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
the
> > trans up there.
> >
> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
back
> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
pressure
> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >
> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >
> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >
> > > Robb S wrote:
> > > >LOL
> > > >
> > > >> Let's hope.
> > > >>
> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
#106
Guest
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Re: Flywheel removal
I have heard that too, I tried it and was not able to get the pilot bearing
to move at all. I found a wooden dowel that was a very snug fit. I rented
the puller from AutoZone (rent the tool, get a full refund when returned)
and it came right out.
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1122914876.682a2a80b94ac28c13f9360a832fbb8f@t eranews...
>I read in a manual that you can fill the pilot bearing with grease, and
> slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
> bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
> sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
> know.
>
> I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
> fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
> inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>
>> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>> the engine.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >
>> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> is on
>> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> head
>> > hurts.
>> >
>> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> back
>> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> bearing
>> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> the
>> > trans up there.
>> >
>> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> back
>> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> pressure
>> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >
>> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> > >
>> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> > >
>> > > Robb S wrote:
>> > > >LOL
>> > > >
>> > > >> Let's hope.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
>
to move at all. I found a wooden dowel that was a very snug fit. I rented
the puller from AutoZone (rent the tool, get a full refund when returned)
and it came right out.
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1122914876.682a2a80b94ac28c13f9360a832fbb8f@t eranews...
>I read in a manual that you can fill the pilot bearing with grease, and
> slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
> bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
> sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
> know.
>
> I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
> fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
> inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>
>> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>> the engine.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >
>> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> is on
>> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> head
>> > hurts.
>> >
>> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> back
>> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> bearing
>> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> the
>> > trans up there.
>> >
>> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> back
>> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> pressure
>> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >
>> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> > >
>> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> > >
>> > > Robb S wrote:
>> > > >LOL
>> > > >
>> > > >> Let's hope.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
>
#107
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal
I have heard that too, I tried it and was not able to get the pilot bearing
to move at all. I found a wooden dowel that was a very snug fit. I rented
the puller from AutoZone (rent the tool, get a full refund when returned)
and it came right out.
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1122914876.682a2a80b94ac28c13f9360a832fbb8f@t eranews...
>I read in a manual that you can fill the pilot bearing with grease, and
> slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
> bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
> sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
> know.
>
> I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
> fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
> inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>
>> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>> the engine.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >
>> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> is on
>> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> head
>> > hurts.
>> >
>> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> back
>> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> bearing
>> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> the
>> > trans up there.
>> >
>> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> back
>> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> pressure
>> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >
>> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> > >
>> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> > >
>> > > Robb S wrote:
>> > > >LOL
>> > > >
>> > > >> Let's hope.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
>
to move at all. I found a wooden dowel that was a very snug fit. I rented
the puller from AutoZone (rent the tool, get a full refund when returned)
and it came right out.
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1122914876.682a2a80b94ac28c13f9360a832fbb8f@t eranews...
>I read in a manual that you can fill the pilot bearing with grease, and
> slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
> bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
> sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
> know.
>
> I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
> fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
> inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>
>> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>> the engine.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >
>> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> is on
>> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> head
>> > hurts.
>> >
>> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> back
>> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> bearing
>> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> the
>> > trans up there.
>> >
>> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> back
>> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> pressure
>> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >
>> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> > >
>> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> > >
>> > > Robb S wrote:
>> > > >LOL
>> > > >
>> > > >> Let's hope.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
>
#108
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal
I have heard that too, I tried it and was not able to get the pilot bearing
to move at all. I found a wooden dowel that was a very snug fit. I rented
the puller from AutoZone (rent the tool, get a full refund when returned)
and it came right out.
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1122914876.682a2a80b94ac28c13f9360a832fbb8f@t eranews...
>I read in a manual that you can fill the pilot bearing with grease, and
> slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
> bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
> sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
> know.
>
> I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
> fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
> inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>
>> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>> the engine.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >
>> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> is on
>> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> head
>> > hurts.
>> >
>> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> back
>> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> bearing
>> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> the
>> > trans up there.
>> >
>> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> back
>> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> pressure
>> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >
>> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> > >
>> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> > >
>> > > Robb S wrote:
>> > > >LOL
>> > > >
>> > > >> Let's hope.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
>
to move at all. I found a wooden dowel that was a very snug fit. I rented
the puller from AutoZone (rent the tool, get a full refund when returned)
and it came right out.
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1122914876.682a2a80b94ac28c13f9360a832fbb8f@t eranews...
>I read in a manual that you can fill the pilot bearing with grease, and
> slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
> bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
> sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
> know.
>
> I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
> fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
> inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>
>> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>> the engine.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >
>> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> is on
>> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> head
>> > hurts.
>> >
>> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> back
>> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> bearing
>> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> the
>> > trans up there.
>> >
>> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> back
>> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> pressure
>> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >
>> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> > >
>> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> > >
>> > > Robb S wrote:
>> > > >LOL
>> > > >
>> > > >> Let's hope.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
>
#109
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal
I have heard that too, I tried it and was not able to get the pilot bearing
to move at all. I found a wooden dowel that was a very snug fit. I rented
the puller from AutoZone (rent the tool, get a full refund when returned)
and it came right out.
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1122914876.682a2a80b94ac28c13f9360a832fbb8f@t eranews...
>I read in a manual that you can fill the pilot bearing with grease, and
> slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
> bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
> sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
> know.
>
> I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
> fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
> inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>
>> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>> the engine.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >
>> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> is on
>> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> head
>> > hurts.
>> >
>> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> back
>> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> bearing
>> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> the
>> > trans up there.
>> >
>> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> back
>> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> pressure
>> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >
>> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> > >
>> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> > >
>> > > Robb S wrote:
>> > > >LOL
>> > > >
>> > > >> Let's hope.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
>
to move at all. I found a wooden dowel that was a very snug fit. I rented
the puller from AutoZone (rent the tool, get a full refund when returned)
and it came right out.
"Earle Horton" <earle-NOSPAM-horton@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1122914876.682a2a80b94ac28c13f9360a832fbb8f@t eranews...
>I read in a manual that you can fill the pilot bearing with grease, and
> slide a shaft into the pilot hole. A few taps on the shaft, and the pilot
> bearing pops right out. I have never tried this, but in theory it makes
> sense. Where you find a shaft that fits the pilot hole exactly, I don't
> know.
>
> I have had some success in the past, with a slide hammer, that has a hook
> fixed to the end of it. Stick the hook into the pilot hole, grab onto the
> inner ring of the bearing, and pull away.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
>> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
>> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
>> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>>
>> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
>> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
>> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
>> the engine.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>
>> Carl Saiyed wrote:
>> >
>> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
> is on
>> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
>> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
> head
>> > hurts.
>> >
>> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
> back
>> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
> bearing
>> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
>> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
> the
>> > trans up there.
>> >
>> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
> back
>> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
> pressure
>> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
>> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
>> >
>> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
>> >
>> > Carl
>> >
>> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
>> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
>> > >
>> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
>> > >
>> > > Robb S wrote:
>> > > >LOL
>> > > >
>> > > >> Let's hope.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
>
>
#110
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Flywheel removal
Mike -
I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The new
bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing that
is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
machined.
Thanks to all for the help so far.
Carl
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>
> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> the engine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
is on
> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
head
> > hurts.
> >
> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
back
> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
bearing
> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
the
> > trans up there.
> >
> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
back
> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
pressure
> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >
> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >
> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >
> > > Robb S wrote:
> > > >LOL
> > > >
> > > >> Let's hope.
> > > >>
> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Message posted via http://www.carkb.com
I don't understand how the bearing could be in the end of the crank. The new
bearing supplied with my kit seems to be an exact match of the bearing that
is in the flywheel. I currently have the flywheel removed, and it was
machined.
Thanks to all for the help so far.
Carl
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42EE1920.14E028CF@sympatico.ca...
> You are going to need a puller for the pilot bearing and it is in the
> center of the works or in the end of the crank. Don't miss the oiled
> pad or you will be doing the job again in a short time.
>
> You should remove the flywheel and have it turned so it isn't grabby.
> Once you have the flywheel out, you will see the big center hole where
> the crank fits with the pilot bearing still sitting there in the end of
> the engine.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Carl Saiyed wrote:
> >
> > The trans is laying on the floor under the jeep, the surfaced flywheel
is on
> > the bench, the clutch and bearings are in the mail. The driveshafts and
> > exhaust are on the floor, the carpet and access panels are out, and my
head
> > hurts.
> >
> > I've been working 12-14hr days so I wont have any time to slam it all
back
> > together untill saturday. Still confused how to install the pilot
bearing
> > and throwout bearing. What I'm guessing is the pilot bearing is in the
> > flywheel, not the crank. Also unsure how I'm going to actually put it
the
> > trans up there.
> >
> > The re-install of the clutch seems straightforward. Bolt the flywheel
back
> > on, torque to 15lbs, 30lbs, and 50lbs. Install the clutch disk and
pressure
> > plate, torque to 23lbs. Pull out the alignment tool, get a good workout
> > getting the trans and t-case assembly back up there.
> >
> > still interested in that drink, Robb? :-D
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > "Robb S via CarKB.com" <forum@CarKB.com> wrote in message
> > news:522B679C544DA@CarKB.com...
> > >
> > > SO Carl, how'd it all turn out?
> > >
> > > Robb S wrote:
> > > >LOL
> > > >
> > > >> Let's hope.
> > > >>
> > > >>> but the Crank is still in the middle of the flywheel ;)
> > >
> > >
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