You can check this site for the differences:
http://www.differentials.com/catalog.html

If you look at the parts available for the Dana 35, it has a 'case' for
3.31 and a case for 3.55 and up.

Mike
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fchristeson@gmail.com wrote:
> Greg,
>
> I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
> really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
> so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
> member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
> with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
> interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
> wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
> rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
> it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
>
> Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
> a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
> 4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
> actually to big for the 3rd member ?
>
> I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
> Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
> I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
> they want $900+ for them... crazy.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
> On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it cost
>> me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
>> detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
>> $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
>> that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example although
>> not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
>> daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to him,
>> her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
>> because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
>> different machanic that time )
>

 

Third member is something else entirely. It is used in those truck rear
axles where you can actually remove all the differential guts, to work on at
the work bench for example, while the axle housing remains in the vehicle.
You do not have one.

What you are talking about is the piece that the ring gear bolts to, that
whirls around at more or less the same speed as the wheels. The 4.11 ring
gear is a different diameter from the 3.07 ring gear, so that the piece that
it bolts to, that is to say the flange on the carrier, had to be made a
different size. This is called the "differential case", although it is a
moving part too. There are two different stock part numbers, for the two
ranges of possible ring gear value, that fit the axle housing in your
vehicle.

You are not going to get any better ***-passing behavior by regearing. This
vehicle is just too short to tolerate much erratic behavior on icy roads.
Now if you get a heavy duty locker like a Detroit, well that is a
replacement carrier but not the best thing for slick roads either.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

<fchristeson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182619325.497930.22200@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> Greg,
>
> I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
> really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
> so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
> member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
> with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
> interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
> wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
> rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
> it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
>
> Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
> a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
> 4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
> actually to big for the 3rd member ?
>
> I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
> Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
> I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
> they want $900+ for them... crazy.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
> On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it
cost
> > me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
> > detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
> > $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
> > that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example
although
> > not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
> > daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to
him,
> > her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
> > because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
> > different machanic that time )
>



--
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Third member is something else entirely. It is used in those truck rear
axles where you can actually remove all the differential guts, to work on at
the work bench for example, while the axle housing remains in the vehicle.
You do not have one.

What you are talking about is the piece that the ring gear bolts to, that
whirls around at more or less the same speed as the wheels. The 4.11 ring
gear is a different diameter from the 3.07 ring gear, so that the piece that
it bolts to, that is to say the flange on the carrier, had to be made a
different size. This is called the "differential case", although it is a
moving part too. There are two different stock part numbers, for the two
ranges of possible ring gear value, that fit the axle housing in your
vehicle.

You are not going to get any better ***-passing behavior by regearing. This
vehicle is just too short to tolerate much erratic behavior on icy roads.
Now if you get a heavy duty locker like a Detroit, well that is a
replacement carrier but not the best thing for slick roads either.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

<fchristeson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182619325.497930.22200@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> Greg,
>
> I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
> really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
> so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
> member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
> with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
> interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
> wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
> rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
> it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
>
> Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
> a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
> 4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
> actually to big for the 3rd member ?
>
> I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
> Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
> I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
> they want $900+ for them... crazy.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
> On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it
cost
> > me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
> > detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
> > $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
> > that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example
although
> > not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
> > daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to
him,
> > her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
> > because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
> > different machanic that time )
>



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

 

Third member is something else entirely. It is used in those truck rear
axles where you can actually remove all the differential guts, to work on at
the work bench for example, while the axle housing remains in the vehicle.
You do not have one.

What you are talking about is the piece that the ring gear bolts to, that
whirls around at more or less the same speed as the wheels. The 4.11 ring
gear is a different diameter from the 3.07 ring gear, so that the piece that
it bolts to, that is to say the flange on the carrier, had to be made a
different size. This is called the "differential case", although it is a
moving part too. There are two different stock part numbers, for the two
ranges of possible ring gear value, that fit the axle housing in your
vehicle.

You are not going to get any better ***-passing behavior by regearing. This
vehicle is just too short to tolerate much erratic behavior on icy roads.
Now if you get a heavy duty locker like a Detroit, well that is a
replacement carrier but not the best thing for slick roads either.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

<fchristeson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182619325.497930.22200@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> Greg,
>
> I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
> really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
> so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
> member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
> with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
> interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
> wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
> rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
> it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
>
> Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
> a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
> 4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
> actually to big for the 3rd member ?
>
> I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
> Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
> I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
> they want $900+ for them... crazy.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
> On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it
cost
> > me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
> > detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
> > $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
> > that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example
although
> > not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
> > daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to
him,
> > her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
> > because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
> > different machanic that time )
>



--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

 

Third member is something else entirely. It is used in those truck rear
axles where you can actually remove all the differential guts, to work on at
the work bench for example, while the axle housing remains in the vehicle.
You do not have one.

What you are talking about is the piece that the ring gear bolts to, that
whirls around at more or less the same speed as the wheels. The 4.11 ring
gear is a different diameter from the 3.07 ring gear, so that the piece that
it bolts to, that is to say the flange on the carrier, had to be made a
different size. This is called the "differential case", although it is a
moving part too. There are two different stock part numbers, for the two
ranges of possible ring gear value, that fit the axle housing in your
vehicle.

You are not going to get any better ***-passing behavior by regearing. This
vehicle is just too short to tolerate much erratic behavior on icy roads.
Now if you get a heavy duty locker like a Detroit, well that is a
replacement carrier but not the best thing for slick roads either.

Saludos cordiales,

Earle

<fchristeson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182619325.497930.22200@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
> Greg,
>
> I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
> really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
> so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
> member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
> with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
> interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
> wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
> rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
> it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
>
> Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
> a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
> 4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
> actually to big for the 3rd member ?
>
> I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
> Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
> I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
> they want $900+ for them... crazy.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
> On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it
cost
> > me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
> > detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
> > $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
> > that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example
although
> > not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
> > daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to
him,
> > her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
> > because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
> > different machanic that time )
>



--
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<fchristeson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182615648.637537.246790@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> On Jun 22, 10:31 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> The cheapest way is to do it yourself, the easiest way is to have
>> somebody
>> else do it for you.
>
> That depends on how much you tear up when you do it yourself. :)
>

That's certainly true. It might be both cheaper and easier to pay somebody
else to do it.

 

<fchristeson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182615648.637537.246790@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> On Jun 22, 10:31 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> The cheapest way is to do it yourself, the easiest way is to have
>> somebody
>> else do it for you.
>
> That depends on how much you tear up when you do it yourself. :)
>

That's certainly true. It might be both cheaper and easier to pay somebody
else to do it.

 

<fchristeson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182615648.637537.246790@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> On Jun 22, 10:31 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> The cheapest way is to do it yourself, the easiest way is to have
>> somebody
>> else do it for you.
>
> That depends on how much you tear up when you do it yourself. :)
>

That's certainly true. It might be both cheaper and easier to pay somebody
else to do it.

 

<fchristeson@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182615648.637537.246790@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> On Jun 22, 10:31 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> The cheapest way is to do it yourself, the easiest way is to have
>> somebody
>> else do it for you.
>
> That depends on how much you tear up when you do it yourself. :)
>

That's certainly true. It might be both cheaper and easier to pay somebody
else to do it.

 

On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, Jeff Strickland wrote:

> <fchristeson@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1182615648.637537.246790@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>> On Jun 22, 10:31 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <c...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> The cheapest way is to do it yourself, the easiest way is to have somebody
>>> else do it for you.
>>
>> That depends on how much you tear up when you do it yourself. :)
>>
>
> That's certainly true. It might be both cheaper and easier to pay somebody
> else to do it.

What was that garage sign?


Repairs - $50 per hour.
If you tried to fix it yourself first - $75 per hour.




--
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that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.