Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
06-23-2007, 01:22 PM
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Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
Greg,
I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
actually to big for the 3rd member ?
I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
they want $900+ for them... crazy.
Farrell Christeson
On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it cost
> me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
> detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
> $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
> that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example although
> not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
> daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to him,
> her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
> because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
> different machanic that time )
I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
actually to big for the 3rd member ?
I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
they want $900+ for them... crazy.
Farrell Christeson
On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it cost
> me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
> detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
> $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
> that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example although
> not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
> daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to him,
> her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
> because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
> different machanic that time )
06-23-2007, 01:22 PM
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Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
Greg,
I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
actually to big for the 3rd member ?
I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
they want $900+ for them... crazy.
Farrell Christeson
On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it cost
> me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
> detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
> $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
> that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example although
> not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
> daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to him,
> her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
> because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
> different machanic that time )
I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
actually to big for the 3rd member ?
I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
they want $900+ for them... crazy.
Farrell Christeson
On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it cost
> me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
> detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
> $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
> that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example although
> not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
> daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to him,
> her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
> because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
> different machanic that time )
06-23-2007, 01:22 PM
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Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
Greg,
I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
actually to big for the 3rd member ?
I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
they want $900+ for them... crazy.
Farrell Christeson
On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it cost
> me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
> detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
> $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
> that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example although
> not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
> daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to him,
> her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
> because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
> different machanic that time )
I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
actually to big for the 3rd member ?
I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
they want $900+ for them... crazy.
Farrell Christeson
On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it cost
> me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
> detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
> $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
> that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example although
> not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
> daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to him,
> her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
> because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
> different machanic that time )
06-23-2007, 01:33 PM
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Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
fchristeson@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 22, 7:23 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> "FDC" <some...@spammymonkey.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7NXei.4$I5.553@news.more.net...
>>
>>
>
> Sadly, the metal tag on the rear dif cover clearly has 3 07 stamped
> on it :( I sold the wheels / tires shortly after I got the jeep, all
> I really remember is "Grizzly wheel and tire package" and dealer
> saying something about it being a bigger tire.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
Too bad. My 3.31's are 'just' low enough to keep the power nice at 65
mph uphill when loaded with gear and hold it with 33's in 4th turning
2300 rpm. If I hit the hill any slower in 4th and it's steep, I will
need to gear down.
When I had 31's on I had no issues, it did make difference. CJ's and
TJ's can fit and some packages come with 31's, maybe worth a try? I
would even borrow a set from someone just to see.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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> On Jun 22, 7:23 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> "FDC" <some...@spammymonkey.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7NXei.4$I5.553@news.more.net...
>>
>>
>
> Sadly, the metal tag on the rear dif cover clearly has 3 07 stamped
> on it :( I sold the wheels / tires shortly after I got the jeep, all
> I really remember is "Grizzly wheel and tire package" and dealer
> saying something about it being a bigger tire.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
Too bad. My 3.31's are 'just' low enough to keep the power nice at 65
mph uphill when loaded with gear and hold it with 33's in 4th turning
2300 rpm. If I hit the hill any slower in 4th and it's steep, I will
need to gear down.
When I had 31's on I had no issues, it did make difference. CJ's and
TJ's can fit and some packages come with 31's, maybe worth a try? I
would even borrow a set from someone just to see.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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06-23-2007, 01:33 PM
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Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
fchristeson@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 22, 7:23 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> "FDC" <some...@spammymonkey.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7NXei.4$I5.553@news.more.net...
>>
>>
>
> Sadly, the metal tag on the rear dif cover clearly has 3 07 stamped
> on it :( I sold the wheels / tires shortly after I got the jeep, all
> I really remember is "Grizzly wheel and tire package" and dealer
> saying something about it being a bigger tire.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
Too bad. My 3.31's are 'just' low enough to keep the power nice at 65
mph uphill when loaded with gear and hold it with 33's in 4th turning
2300 rpm. If I hit the hill any slower in 4th and it's steep, I will
need to gear down.
When I had 31's on I had no issues, it did make difference. CJ's and
TJ's can fit and some packages come with 31's, maybe worth a try? I
would even borrow a set from someone just to see.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Jun 22, 7:23 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> "FDC" <some...@spammymonkey.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7NXei.4$I5.553@news.more.net...
>>
>>
>
> Sadly, the metal tag on the rear dif cover clearly has 3 07 stamped
> on it :( I sold the wheels / tires shortly after I got the jeep, all
> I really remember is "Grizzly wheel and tire package" and dealer
> saying something about it being a bigger tire.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
Too bad. My 3.31's are 'just' low enough to keep the power nice at 65
mph uphill when loaded with gear and hold it with 33's in 4th turning
2300 rpm. If I hit the hill any slower in 4th and it's steep, I will
need to gear down.
When I had 31's on I had no issues, it did make difference. CJ's and
TJ's can fit and some packages come with 31's, maybe worth a try? I
would even borrow a set from someone just to see.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
06-23-2007, 01:33 PM
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Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
fchristeson@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 22, 7:23 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> "FDC" <some...@spammymonkey.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7NXei.4$I5.553@news.more.net...
>>
>>
>
> Sadly, the metal tag on the rear dif cover clearly has 3 07 stamped
> on it :( I sold the wheels / tires shortly after I got the jeep, all
> I really remember is "Grizzly wheel and tire package" and dealer
> saying something about it being a bigger tire.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
Too bad. My 3.31's are 'just' low enough to keep the power nice at 65
mph uphill when loaded with gear and hold it with 33's in 4th turning
2300 rpm. If I hit the hill any slower in 4th and it's steep, I will
need to gear down.
When I had 31's on I had no issues, it did make difference. CJ's and
TJ's can fit and some packages come with 31's, maybe worth a try? I
would even borrow a set from someone just to see.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Jun 22, 7:23 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> "FDC" <some...@spammymonkey.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7NXei.4$I5.553@news.more.net...
>>
>>
>
> Sadly, the metal tag on the rear dif cover clearly has 3 07 stamped
> on it :( I sold the wheels / tires shortly after I got the jeep, all
> I really remember is "Grizzly wheel and tire package" and dealer
> saying something about it being a bigger tire.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
Too bad. My 3.31's are 'just' low enough to keep the power nice at 65
mph uphill when loaded with gear and hold it with 33's in 4th turning
2300 rpm. If I hit the hill any slower in 4th and it's steep, I will
need to gear down.
When I had 31's on I had no issues, it did make difference. CJ's and
TJ's can fit and some packages come with 31's, maybe worth a try? I
would even borrow a set from someone just to see.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
06-23-2007, 01:33 PM
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Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
fchristeson@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jun 22, 7:23 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> "FDC" <some...@spammymonkey.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7NXei.4$I5.553@news.more.net...
>>
>>
>
> Sadly, the metal tag on the rear dif cover clearly has 3 07 stamped
> on it :( I sold the wheels / tires shortly after I got the jeep, all
> I really remember is "Grizzly wheel and tire package" and dealer
> saying something about it being a bigger tire.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
Too bad. My 3.31's are 'just' low enough to keep the power nice at 65
mph uphill when loaded with gear and hold it with 33's in 4th turning
2300 rpm. If I hit the hill any slower in 4th and it's steep, I will
need to gear down.
When I had 31's on I had no issues, it did make difference. CJ's and
TJ's can fit and some packages come with 31's, maybe worth a try? I
would even borrow a set from someone just to see.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Jun 22, 7:23 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
>> "FDC" <some...@spammymonkey.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7NXei.4$I5.553@news.more.net...
>>
>>
>
> Sadly, the metal tag on the rear dif cover clearly has 3 07 stamped
> on it :( I sold the wheels / tires shortly after I got the jeep, all
> I really remember is "Grizzly wheel and tire package" and dealer
> saying something about it being a bigger tire.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
Too bad. My 3.31's are 'just' low enough to keep the power nice at 65
mph uphill when loaded with gear and hold it with 33's in 4th turning
2300 rpm. If I hit the hill any slower in 4th and it's steep, I will
need to gear down.
When I had 31's on I had no issues, it did make difference. CJ's and
TJ's can fit and some packages come with 31's, maybe worth a try? I
would even borrow a set from someone just to see.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
06-23-2007, 02:24 PM
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Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
You can check this site for the differences:
http://www.differentials.com/catalog.html
If you look at the parts available for the Dana 35, it has a 'case' for
3.31 and a case for 3.55 and up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
fchristeson@gmail.com wrote:
> Greg,
>
> I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
> really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
> so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
> member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
> with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
> interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
> wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
> rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
> it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
>
> Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
> a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
> 4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
> actually to big for the 3rd member ?
>
> I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
> Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
> I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
> they want $900+ for them... crazy.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
> On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it cost
>> me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
>> detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
>> $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
>> that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example although
>> not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
>> daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to him,
>> her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
>> because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
>> different machanic that time )
>
http://www.differentials.com/catalog.html
If you look at the parts available for the Dana 35, it has a 'case' for
3.31 and a case for 3.55 and up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
fchristeson@gmail.com wrote:
> Greg,
>
> I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
> really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
> so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
> member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
> with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
> interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
> wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
> rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
> it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
>
> Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
> a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
> 4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
> actually to big for the 3rd member ?
>
> I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
> Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
> I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
> they want $900+ for them... crazy.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
> On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it cost
>> me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
>> detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
>> $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
>> that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example although
>> not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
>> daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to him,
>> her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
>> because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
>> different machanic that time )
>
06-23-2007, 02:24 PM
#119
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
You can check this site for the differences:
http://www.differentials.com/catalog.html
If you look at the parts available for the Dana 35, it has a 'case' for
3.31 and a case for 3.55 and up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
fchristeson@gmail.com wrote:
> Greg,
>
> I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
> really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
> so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
> member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
> with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
> interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
> wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
> rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
> it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
>
> Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
> a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
> 4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
> actually to big for the 3rd member ?
>
> I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
> Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
> I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
> they want $900+ for them... crazy.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
> On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it cost
>> me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
>> detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
>> $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
>> that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example although
>> not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
>> daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to him,
>> her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
>> because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
>> different machanic that time )
>
http://www.differentials.com/catalog.html
If you look at the parts available for the Dana 35, it has a 'case' for
3.31 and a case for 3.55 and up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
fchristeson@gmail.com wrote:
> Greg,
>
> I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
> really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
> so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
> member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
> with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
> interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
> wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
> rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
> it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
>
> Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
> a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
> 4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
> actually to big for the 3rd member ?
>
> I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
> Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
> I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
> they want $900+ for them... crazy.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
> On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it cost
>> me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
>> detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
>> $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
>> that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example although
>> not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
>> daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to him,
>> her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
>> because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
>> different machanic that time )
>
06-23-2007, 02:24 PM
#120
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Easiest cheapest way to change to 4.11:1
You can check this site for the differences:
http://www.differentials.com/catalog.html
If you look at the parts available for the Dana 35, it has a 'case' for
3.31 and a case for 3.55 and up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
fchristeson@gmail.com wrote:
> Greg,
>
> I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
> really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
> so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
> member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
> with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
> interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
> wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
> rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
> it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
>
> Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
> a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
> 4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
> actually to big for the 3rd member ?
>
> I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
> Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
> I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
> they want $900+ for them... crazy.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
> On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it cost
>> me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
>> detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
>> $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
>> that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example although
>> not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
>> daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to him,
>> her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
>> because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
>> different machanic that time )
>
http://www.differentials.com/catalog.html
If you look at the parts available for the Dana 35, it has a 'case' for
3.31 and a case for 3.55 and up.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
fchristeson@gmail.com wrote:
> Greg,
>
> I don't know enough about differentials or axles or carriers to
> really know what my options are but if I understand what I have read
> so far, the problem with my rear axle is that the case ( 3rd
> member ? ) is physically to small to hold the larger gears ? If going
> with 4.11's can be as simple as eliminating the carrier then I'm
> interested in almost anything other than perm posi in the rear. The
> wheelbase is so short the *** likes to pass the nose already, with
> rear posi on wet / slick roads I would have to teach the wife to drive
> it backwards every time it rained or snowed.
>
> Does anyone know if this is an option on the Dana 30/35 ? Would using
> a locker of some type to eleimate the carrier allow me to put put
> 4.11's in my 3rd member ? Is the carrier the problem or are the gears
> actually to big for the 3rd member ?
>
> I think what I really need to do is keep my eyes open for a wrecked
> Rubi or TJ with the Dana 44's and just buy the whole rig.
> I've only found the 3.73 assemblies at the salvage yards so far and
> they want $900+ for them... crazy.
>
> Farrell Christeson
>
> On Jun 22, 9:01 pm, "Greg" <gregl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> When I changed gears in my CJ I had to go to a new carrier, think it cost
>> me 90 buck Canadain, new, not even worth ebaying now that I've gone to a
>> detroit, ( replaces carrier ) here's a site that list CJ or YJ carier at
>> $49.00http://www.rocky-road.com/jeepdrive.htmlIf you can find a machanic
>> that works after hours, a gear change is not that much, for example although
>> not a gear change, same has to be done to install a full locker, my
>> daughter's 9" was $50.00 to install a detroit, she took third member to him,
>> her front lock right was $100.00, the detroit in my AMC 20 was $175.00
>> because I needed new bearings, my Ox locker in front was $200.00, (
>> different machanic that time )
>