Diesel Liberty
#401
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Re: Diesel Liberty
No, it was Corvair had a 'Pancake Six"
"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:v5x%f.6978$tT.464@news01.roc.ny...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > You need to go to Europe to see this. Standing inside the bus terminal,
in
> > Burgos, Spain, with three or four big diesel buses running, is like
being
> > outside on a sunny day in LA or Denver. I once saw a California
tourist,
> > get down on his hands and knees, to suck the exhaust smoke. He was that
> > homesick. Even the trains don't smell so bad.
> >
> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/trainengine.jpg
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:443E5824.E4CEBB19@sympatico.ca...
> >> I would have to be there to believe it.
> >>
> >> We have the lowest grade of diesel that will actually burn in an engine
> >> here in Canada and the crap they puke out the tailpipes is totally
> >> noxious. There is 'No' way anyone with a convertible can follow any
> >> diesel on the trail. It would choke you out.
> >>
> >> Same for getting stuck behind a bus or tractor trailer. Totally
gagging
> >> gross if you get stuck behind them.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> philthy wrote:
> >>> even standing next to the lib u can not sme ll the fumes. let alone
> > barely hear
> >>> it run
> >>> the design of that engine in the liberty was well thought out
> >>> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> My CJ7 gets 589 NO2 and 0.11% CO with no catalytic converter in the
> >>>> stream....
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>
> >>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >>>>> So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine
> > exhaust is to
> >>>>> use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:44343FD3.40596D55@***.net...
> >>>>>> That is pure unadulterated bullsh*t! The only way to clean the
> >>>>>> diesel soot from our air is use an exhaust filter like all diesels
> > sold
> >>>>>> in the U.S.of A.
> >
> >
> Wow! A VW on steroids. :-)
>
> --
> FRH
"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:v5x%f.6978$tT.464@news01.roc.ny...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > You need to go to Europe to see this. Standing inside the bus terminal,
in
> > Burgos, Spain, with three or four big diesel buses running, is like
being
> > outside on a sunny day in LA or Denver. I once saw a California
tourist,
> > get down on his hands and knees, to suck the exhaust smoke. He was that
> > homesick. Even the trains don't smell so bad.
> >
> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/trainengine.jpg
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:443E5824.E4CEBB19@sympatico.ca...
> >> I would have to be there to believe it.
> >>
> >> We have the lowest grade of diesel that will actually burn in an engine
> >> here in Canada and the crap they puke out the tailpipes is totally
> >> noxious. There is 'No' way anyone with a convertible can follow any
> >> diesel on the trail. It would choke you out.
> >>
> >> Same for getting stuck behind a bus or tractor trailer. Totally
gagging
> >> gross if you get stuck behind them.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> philthy wrote:
> >>> even standing next to the lib u can not sme ll the fumes. let alone
> > barely hear
> >>> it run
> >>> the design of that engine in the liberty was well thought out
> >>> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> My CJ7 gets 589 NO2 and 0.11% CO with no catalytic converter in the
> >>>> stream....
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>
> >>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >>>>> So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine
> > exhaust is to
> >>>>> use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:44343FD3.40596D55@***.net...
> >>>>>> That is pure unadulterated bullsh*t! The only way to clean the
> >>>>>> diesel soot from our air is use an exhaust filter like all diesels
> > sold
> >>>>>> in the U.S.of A.
> >
> >
> Wow! A VW on steroids. :-)
>
> --
> FRH
#402
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Re: Diesel Liberty
No, it was Corvair had a 'Pancake Six"
"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:v5x%f.6978$tT.464@news01.roc.ny...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > You need to go to Europe to see this. Standing inside the bus terminal,
in
> > Burgos, Spain, with three or four big diesel buses running, is like
being
> > outside on a sunny day in LA or Denver. I once saw a California
tourist,
> > get down on his hands and knees, to suck the exhaust smoke. He was that
> > homesick. Even the trains don't smell so bad.
> >
> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/trainengine.jpg
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:443E5824.E4CEBB19@sympatico.ca...
> >> I would have to be there to believe it.
> >>
> >> We have the lowest grade of diesel that will actually burn in an engine
> >> here in Canada and the crap they puke out the tailpipes is totally
> >> noxious. There is 'No' way anyone with a convertible can follow any
> >> diesel on the trail. It would choke you out.
> >>
> >> Same for getting stuck behind a bus or tractor trailer. Totally
gagging
> >> gross if you get stuck behind them.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> philthy wrote:
> >>> even standing next to the lib u can not sme ll the fumes. let alone
> > barely hear
> >>> it run
> >>> the design of that engine in the liberty was well thought out
> >>> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> My CJ7 gets 589 NO2 and 0.11% CO with no catalytic converter in the
> >>>> stream....
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>
> >>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >>>>> So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine
> > exhaust is to
> >>>>> use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:44343FD3.40596D55@***.net...
> >>>>>> That is pure unadulterated bullsh*t! The only way to clean the
> >>>>>> diesel soot from our air is use an exhaust filter like all diesels
> > sold
> >>>>>> in the U.S.of A.
> >
> >
> Wow! A VW on steroids. :-)
>
> --
> FRH
"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:v5x%f.6978$tT.464@news01.roc.ny...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > You need to go to Europe to see this. Standing inside the bus terminal,
in
> > Burgos, Spain, with three or four big diesel buses running, is like
being
> > outside on a sunny day in LA or Denver. I once saw a California
tourist,
> > get down on his hands and knees, to suck the exhaust smoke. He was that
> > homesick. Even the trains don't smell so bad.
> >
> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/trainengine.jpg
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:443E5824.E4CEBB19@sympatico.ca...
> >> I would have to be there to believe it.
> >>
> >> We have the lowest grade of diesel that will actually burn in an engine
> >> here in Canada and the crap they puke out the tailpipes is totally
> >> noxious. There is 'No' way anyone with a convertible can follow any
> >> diesel on the trail. It would choke you out.
> >>
> >> Same for getting stuck behind a bus or tractor trailer. Totally
gagging
> >> gross if you get stuck behind them.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> philthy wrote:
> >>> even standing next to the lib u can not sme ll the fumes. let alone
> > barely hear
> >>> it run
> >>> the design of that engine in the liberty was well thought out
> >>> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> My CJ7 gets 589 NO2 and 0.11% CO with no catalytic converter in the
> >>>> stream....
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>
> >>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >>>>> So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine
> > exhaust is to
> >>>>> use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:44343FD3.40596D55@***.net...
> >>>>>> That is pure unadulterated bullsh*t! The only way to clean the
> >>>>>> diesel soot from our air is use an exhaust filter like all diesels
> > sold
> >>>>>> in the U.S.of A.
> >
> >
> Wow! A VW on steroids. :-)
>
> --
> FRH
#403
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Re: Diesel Liberty
No, it was Corvair had a 'Pancake Six"
"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:v5x%f.6978$tT.464@news01.roc.ny...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > You need to go to Europe to see this. Standing inside the bus terminal,
in
> > Burgos, Spain, with three or four big diesel buses running, is like
being
> > outside on a sunny day in LA or Denver. I once saw a California
tourist,
> > get down on his hands and knees, to suck the exhaust smoke. He was that
> > homesick. Even the trains don't smell so bad.
> >
> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/trainengine.jpg
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:443E5824.E4CEBB19@sympatico.ca...
> >> I would have to be there to believe it.
> >>
> >> We have the lowest grade of diesel that will actually burn in an engine
> >> here in Canada and the crap they puke out the tailpipes is totally
> >> noxious. There is 'No' way anyone with a convertible can follow any
> >> diesel on the trail. It would choke you out.
> >>
> >> Same for getting stuck behind a bus or tractor trailer. Totally
gagging
> >> gross if you get stuck behind them.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> philthy wrote:
> >>> even standing next to the lib u can not sme ll the fumes. let alone
> > barely hear
> >>> it run
> >>> the design of that engine in the liberty was well thought out
> >>> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> My CJ7 gets 589 NO2 and 0.11% CO with no catalytic converter in the
> >>>> stream....
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>
> >>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >>>>> So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine
> > exhaust is to
> >>>>> use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:44343FD3.40596D55@***.net...
> >>>>>> That is pure unadulterated bullsh*t! The only way to clean the
> >>>>>> diesel soot from our air is use an exhaust filter like all diesels
> > sold
> >>>>>> in the U.S.of A.
> >
> >
> Wow! A VW on steroids. :-)
>
> --
> FRH
"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:v5x%f.6978$tT.464@news01.roc.ny...
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > You need to go to Europe to see this. Standing inside the bus terminal,
in
> > Burgos, Spain, with three or four big diesel buses running, is like
being
> > outside on a sunny day in LA or Denver. I once saw a California
tourist,
> > get down on his hands and knees, to suck the exhaust smoke. He was that
> > homesick. Even the trains don't smell so bad.
> >
> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/trainengine.jpg
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:443E5824.E4CEBB19@sympatico.ca...
> >> I would have to be there to believe it.
> >>
> >> We have the lowest grade of diesel that will actually burn in an engine
> >> here in Canada and the crap they puke out the tailpipes is totally
> >> noxious. There is 'No' way anyone with a convertible can follow any
> >> diesel on the trail. It would choke you out.
> >>
> >> Same for getting stuck behind a bus or tractor trailer. Totally
gagging
> >> gross if you get stuck behind them.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> philthy wrote:
> >>> even standing next to the lib u can not sme ll the fumes. let alone
> > barely hear
> >>> it run
> >>> the design of that engine in the liberty was well thought out
> >>> Mike Romain wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> My CJ7 gets 589 NO2 and 0.11% CO with no catalytic converter in the
> >>>> stream....
> >>>>
> >>>> Mike
> >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> >>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >>>>
> >>>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >>>>> So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine
> > exhaust is to
> >>>>> use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:44343FD3.40596D55@***.net...
> >>>>>> That is pure unadulterated bullsh*t! The only way to clean the
> >>>>>> diesel soot from our air is use an exhaust filter like all diesels
> > sold
> >>>>>> in the U.S.of A.
> >
> >
> Wow! A VW on steroids. :-)
>
> --
> FRH
#404
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Re: Diesel Liberty
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote
: Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
: animal...
Ours too, stinking beast.
But we have (on many ocasions) put two tons of materials in the back of it
and hauled it on home
#405
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Re: Diesel Liberty
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote
: Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
: animal...
Ours too, stinking beast.
But we have (on many ocasions) put two tons of materials in the back of it
and hauled it on home
#406
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Re: Diesel Liberty
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote
: Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
: animal...
Ours too, stinking beast.
But we have (on many ocasions) put two tons of materials in the back of it
and hauled it on home
#407
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Re: Diesel Liberty
like my mom told me if u have no idea what u are talking about then keep
your mouth closed . and sit bac and learn, and u should because u have not
seen the new common rail jeep diesel while it's running
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> > animal...
your mouth closed . and sit bac and learn, and u should because u have not
seen the new common rail jeep diesel while it's running
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> > animal...
#408
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Posts: n/a
Re: Diesel Liberty
like my mom told me if u have no idea what u are talking about then keep
your mouth closed . and sit bac and learn, and u should because u have not
seen the new common rail jeep diesel while it's running
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> > animal...
your mouth closed . and sit bac and learn, and u should because u have not
seen the new common rail jeep diesel while it's running
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> > animal...
#409
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Posts: n/a
Re: Diesel Liberty
like my mom told me if u have no idea what u are talking about then keep
your mouth closed . and sit bac and learn, and u should because u have not
seen the new common rail jeep diesel while it's running
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> > animal...
your mouth closed . and sit bac and learn, and u should because u have not
seen the new common rail jeep diesel while it's running
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" wrote:
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> > animal...
#410
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Re: Diesel Liberty
Good advice, then should I call you a lair?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
philthy wrote:
>
> like my mom told me if u have no idea what u are talking about then keep
> your mouth closed . and sit bac and learn, and u should because u have not
> seen the new common rail jeep diesel while it's running
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
philthy wrote:
>
> like my mom told me if u have no idea what u are talking about then keep
> your mouth closed . and sit bac and learn, and u should because u have not
> seen the new common rail jeep diesel while it's running