Diesel Liberty
#361
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Re: Diesel Liberty
Or mini-trucks with four cylinder diesels, that couldn't even get out of
their own way. Or the Diesel Cherokee. Or the diesel Vanagon, a real
disaster that could barely do 55, except downhill. (And a downhill run of
any length would blow the engine.)
Earle
"Billy Ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
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> I think the real obstacle to acceptance is the memory of the GM diesels of
> the 80's
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> >
> > They are never going to be as quiet as a similar sized gasoline engine,
> but
> > as I have said numerous times before the real obstacle to diesel
> acceptance
> > is political.
> >
>
>
their own way. Or the Diesel Cherokee. Or the diesel Vanagon, a real
disaster that could barely do 55, except downhill. (And a downhill run of
any length would blow the engine.)
Earle
"Billy Ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
news:ce000$443dcf13$4831b233$15161@FUSE.NET...
> I think the real obstacle to acceptance is the memory of the GM diesels of
> the 80's
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> >
> > They are never going to be as quiet as a similar sized gasoline engine,
> but
> > as I have said numerous times before the real obstacle to diesel
> acceptance
> > is political.
> >
>
>
#362
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Re: Diesel Liberty
That was after someone tried to feed it gasoline. Imagine if what
would happen with a thousand inch diesel tractor.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I understand that the GM diesels would pull the head bolts loose, the Vega
> engine had plated cylinder walls instead of proper liners, and you are 100%
> right about the timing belt. Now, they make them out of better stuff, and
> recommend a 100,000 mile change interval on the belts.
>
> Earle
would happen with a thousand inch diesel tractor.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I understand that the GM diesels would pull the head bolts loose, the Vega
> engine had plated cylinder walls instead of proper liners, and you are 100%
> right about the timing belt. Now, they make them out of better stuff, and
> recommend a 100,000 mile change interval on the belts.
>
> Earle
#363
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Re: Diesel Liberty
That was after someone tried to feed it gasoline. Imagine if what
would happen with a thousand inch diesel tractor.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I understand that the GM diesels would pull the head bolts loose, the Vega
> engine had plated cylinder walls instead of proper liners, and you are 100%
> right about the timing belt. Now, they make them out of better stuff, and
> recommend a 100,000 mile change interval on the belts.
>
> Earle
would happen with a thousand inch diesel tractor.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I understand that the GM diesels would pull the head bolts loose, the Vega
> engine had plated cylinder walls instead of proper liners, and you are 100%
> right about the timing belt. Now, they make them out of better stuff, and
> recommend a 100,000 mile change interval on the belts.
>
> Earle
#364
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Re: Diesel Liberty
That was after someone tried to feed it gasoline. Imagine if what
would happen with a thousand inch diesel tractor.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I understand that the GM diesels would pull the head bolts loose, the Vega
> engine had plated cylinder walls instead of proper liners, and you are 100%
> right about the timing belt. Now, they make them out of better stuff, and
> recommend a 100,000 mile change interval on the belts.
>
> Earle
would happen with a thousand inch diesel tractor.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> I understand that the GM diesels would pull the head bolts loose, the Vega
> engine had plated cylinder walls instead of proper liners, and you are 100%
> right about the timing belt. Now, they make them out of better stuff, and
> recommend a 100,000 mile change interval on the belts.
>
> Earle
#365
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Re: Diesel Liberty
I understand that the GM diesels would pull the head bolts loose, the Vega
engine had plated cylinder walls instead of proper liners, and you are 100%
right about the timing belt. Now, they make them out of better stuff, and
recommend a 100,000 mile change interval on the belts.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DD3B2.B4D7B75E@***.net...
> People didn't understand the special maintenance required to
> operate a diesel, (even though you will try to blame it on the modified
> four bolt 350 small block design) nor the aluminum Vega engine, nor the
> Pinto timing belt. When the book says to change the coolant, do it!
> Diesel is dirty, you must change the oil!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> >
> > I think the real obstacle to acceptance is the memory of the GM diesels
of
> > the 80's
engine had plated cylinder walls instead of proper liners, and you are 100%
right about the timing belt. Now, they make them out of better stuff, and
recommend a 100,000 mile change interval on the belts.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DD3B2.B4D7B75E@***.net...
> People didn't understand the special maintenance required to
> operate a diesel, (even though you will try to blame it on the modified
> four bolt 350 small block design) nor the aluminum Vega engine, nor the
> Pinto timing belt. When the book says to change the coolant, do it!
> Diesel is dirty, you must change the oil!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> >
> > I think the real obstacle to acceptance is the memory of the GM diesels
of
> > the 80's
#366
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Re: Diesel Liberty
I understand that the GM diesels would pull the head bolts loose, the Vega
engine had plated cylinder walls instead of proper liners, and you are 100%
right about the timing belt. Now, they make them out of better stuff, and
recommend a 100,000 mile change interval on the belts.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DD3B2.B4D7B75E@***.net...
> People didn't understand the special maintenance required to
> operate a diesel, (even though you will try to blame it on the modified
> four bolt 350 small block design) nor the aluminum Vega engine, nor the
> Pinto timing belt. When the book says to change the coolant, do it!
> Diesel is dirty, you must change the oil!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> >
> > I think the real obstacle to acceptance is the memory of the GM diesels
of
> > the 80's
engine had plated cylinder walls instead of proper liners, and you are 100%
right about the timing belt. Now, they make them out of better stuff, and
recommend a 100,000 mile change interval on the belts.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DD3B2.B4D7B75E@***.net...
> People didn't understand the special maintenance required to
> operate a diesel, (even though you will try to blame it on the modified
> four bolt 350 small block design) nor the aluminum Vega engine, nor the
> Pinto timing belt. When the book says to change the coolant, do it!
> Diesel is dirty, you must change the oil!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> >
> > I think the real obstacle to acceptance is the memory of the GM diesels
of
> > the 80's
#367
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Re: Diesel Liberty
I understand that the GM diesels would pull the head bolts loose, the Vega
engine had plated cylinder walls instead of proper liners, and you are 100%
right about the timing belt. Now, they make them out of better stuff, and
recommend a 100,000 mile change interval on the belts.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DD3B2.B4D7B75E@***.net...
> People didn't understand the special maintenance required to
> operate a diesel, (even though you will try to blame it on the modified
> four bolt 350 small block design) nor the aluminum Vega engine, nor the
> Pinto timing belt. When the book says to change the coolant, do it!
> Diesel is dirty, you must change the oil!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> >
> > I think the real obstacle to acceptance is the memory of the GM diesels
of
> > the 80's
engine had plated cylinder walls instead of proper liners, and you are 100%
right about the timing belt. Now, they make them out of better stuff, and
recommend a 100,000 mile change interval on the belts.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DD3B2.B4D7B75E@***.net...
> People didn't understand the special maintenance required to
> operate a diesel, (even though you will try to blame it on the modified
> four bolt 350 small block design) nor the aluminum Vega engine, nor the
> Pinto timing belt. When the book says to change the coolant, do it!
> Diesel is dirty, you must change the oil!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Billy Ray wrote:
> >
> > I think the real obstacle to acceptance is the memory of the GM diesels
of
> > the 80's
#368
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Re: Diesel Liberty
I've heard the Liberty diesel, it's not quieter than a similar sized gas
engine but it's a lot quieter than I expected, just a bit louder than say
the Wrangler I-6. And of course it sounds like a diesel.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DB435.39123BAF@***.net...
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
>> animal...
engine but it's a lot quieter than I expected, just a bit louder than say
the Wrangler I-6. And of course it sounds like a diesel.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DB435.39123BAF@***.net...
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
>> animal...
#369
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Re: Diesel Liberty
I've heard the Liberty diesel, it's not quieter than a similar sized gas
engine but it's a lot quieter than I expected, just a bit louder than say
the Wrangler I-6. And of course it sounds like a diesel.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DB435.39123BAF@***.net...
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
>> animal...
engine but it's a lot quieter than I expected, just a bit louder than say
the Wrangler I-6. And of course it sounds like a diesel.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DB435.39123BAF@***.net...
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
>> animal...
#370
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Re: Diesel Liberty
I've heard the Liberty diesel, it's not quieter than a similar sized gas
engine but it's a lot quieter than I expected, just a bit louder than say
the Wrangler I-6. And of course it sounds like a diesel.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DB435.39123BAF@***.net...
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
>> animal...
engine but it's a lot quieter than I expected, just a bit louder than say
the Wrangler I-6. And of course it sounds like a diesel.
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DB435.39123BAF@***.net...
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
>> animal...