Diesel Liberty
#331
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Re: Diesel Liberty
even standing next to the lib u can not sme ll the fumes. let alone barely hear
it run
the design of that engine in the liberty was well thought out
Mike Romain wrote:
> My CJ7 gets 589 NO2 and 0.11% CO with no catalytic converter in the
> stream....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine exhaust is to
> > use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:44343FD3.40596D55@***.net...
> > > That is pure unadulterated bullsh*t! The only way to clean the
> > > diesel soot from our air is use an exhaust filter like all diesels sold
> > > in the U.S.of A.
it run
the design of that engine in the liberty was well thought out
Mike Romain wrote:
> My CJ7 gets 589 NO2 and 0.11% CO with no catalytic converter in the
> stream....
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine exhaust is to
> > use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.
> >
> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:44343FD3.40596D55@***.net...
> > > That is pure unadulterated bullsh*t! The only way to clean the
> > > diesel soot from our air is use an exhaust filter like all diesels sold
> > > in the U.S.of A.
#332
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Re: Diesel Liberty
Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
animal...
"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:443DA370.CB1AFF10@cac.net...
> even standing next to the lib u can not sme ll the fumes. let alone
> barely hear
> it run
> the design of that engine in the liberty was well thought out
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> My CJ7 gets 589 NO2 and 0.11% CO with no catalytic converter in the
>> stream....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> >
>> > So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine exhaust
>> > is to
>> > use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.
>> >
>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:44343FD3.40596D55@***.net...
>> > > That is pure unadulterated bullsh*t! The only way to clean the
>> > > diesel soot from our air is use an exhaust filter like all diesels
>> > > sold
>> > > in the U.S.of A.
>
animal...
"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:443DA370.CB1AFF10@cac.net...
> even standing next to the lib u can not sme ll the fumes. let alone
> barely hear
> it run
> the design of that engine in the liberty was well thought out
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> My CJ7 gets 589 NO2 and 0.11% CO with no catalytic converter in the
>> stream....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> >
>> > So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine exhaust
>> > is to
>> > use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.
>> >
>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:44343FD3.40596D55@***.net...
>> > > That is pure unadulterated bullsh*t! The only way to clean the
>> > > diesel soot from our air is use an exhaust filter like all diesels
>> > > sold
>> > > in the U.S.of A.
>
#333
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Re: Diesel Liberty
Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
animal...
"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:443DA370.CB1AFF10@cac.net...
> even standing next to the lib u can not sme ll the fumes. let alone
> barely hear
> it run
> the design of that engine in the liberty was well thought out
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> My CJ7 gets 589 NO2 and 0.11% CO with no catalytic converter in the
>> stream....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> >
>> > So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine exhaust
>> > is to
>> > use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.
>> >
>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:44343FD3.40596D55@***.net...
>> > > That is pure unadulterated bullsh*t! The only way to clean the
>> > > diesel soot from our air is use an exhaust filter like all diesels
>> > > sold
>> > > in the U.S.of A.
>
animal...
"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:443DA370.CB1AFF10@cac.net...
> even standing next to the lib u can not sme ll the fumes. let alone
> barely hear
> it run
> the design of that engine in the liberty was well thought out
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> My CJ7 gets 589 NO2 and 0.11% CO with no catalytic converter in the
>> stream....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> >
>> > So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine exhaust
>> > is to
>> > use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.
>> >
>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:44343FD3.40596D55@***.net...
>> > > That is pure unadulterated bullsh*t! The only way to clean the
>> > > diesel soot from our air is use an exhaust filter like all diesels
>> > > sold
>> > > in the U.S.of A.
>
#334
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Re: Diesel Liberty
Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
animal...
"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:443DA370.CB1AFF10@cac.net...
> even standing next to the lib u can not sme ll the fumes. let alone
> barely hear
> it run
> the design of that engine in the liberty was well thought out
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> My CJ7 gets 589 NO2 and 0.11% CO with no catalytic converter in the
>> stream....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> >
>> > So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine exhaust
>> > is to
>> > use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.
>> >
>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:44343FD3.40596D55@***.net...
>> > > That is pure unadulterated bullsh*t! The only way to clean the
>> > > diesel soot from our air is use an exhaust filter like all diesels
>> > > sold
>> > > in the U.S.of A.
>
animal...
"philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:443DA370.CB1AFF10@cac.net...
> even standing next to the lib u can not sme ll the fumes. let alone
> barely hear
> it run
> the design of that engine in the liberty was well thought out
> Mike Romain wrote:
>
>> My CJ7 gets 589 NO2 and 0.11% CO with no catalytic converter in the
>> stream....
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> >
>> > So what? The only way to clean NO2 and CO from gasoline engine exhaust
>> > is to
>> > use a catalyst in the exhaust flow.
>> >
>> > "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:44343FD3.40596D55@***.net...
>> > > That is pure unadulterated bullsh*t! The only way to clean the
>> > > diesel soot from our air is use an exhaust filter like all diesels
>> > > sold
>> > > in the U.S.of A.
>
#335
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Re: Diesel Liberty
Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> animal...
heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> animal...
#336
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Re: Diesel Liberty
Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> animal...
heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> animal...
#337
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Re: Diesel Liberty
Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> animal...
heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>
> Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> animal...
#338
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Re: Diesel Liberty
The VW Golf from Avis that I drove in Spain was barely audible, except when
accelerating. The smell was not noticeable, except when it was warming up
in the morning, as I stood next to the tail pipe, packing my bags in the
trunk. I have heard and smelled gasoline engines that were more obnoxious.
I had no idea that the Smart cars were diesels, until I stood next to one as
it accelerated from a stop.
They are never going to be as quiet as a similar sized gasoline engine, but
as I have said numerous times before the real obstacle to diesel acceptance
is political.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DB435.39123BAF@***.net...
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> > animal...
accelerating. The smell was not noticeable, except when it was warming up
in the morning, as I stood next to the tail pipe, packing my bags in the
trunk. I have heard and smelled gasoline engines that were more obnoxious.
I had no idea that the Smart cars were diesels, until I stood next to one as
it accelerated from a stop.
They are never going to be as quiet as a similar sized gasoline engine, but
as I have said numerous times before the real obstacle to diesel acceptance
is political.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DB435.39123BAF@***.net...
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> > animal...
#339
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Posts: n/a
Re: Diesel Liberty
The VW Golf from Avis that I drove in Spain was barely audible, except when
accelerating. The smell was not noticeable, except when it was warming up
in the morning, as I stood next to the tail pipe, packing my bags in the
trunk. I have heard and smelled gasoline engines that were more obnoxious.
I had no idea that the Smart cars were diesels, until I stood next to one as
it accelerated from a stop.
They are never going to be as quiet as a similar sized gasoline engine, but
as I have said numerous times before the real obstacle to diesel acceptance
is political.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DB435.39123BAF@***.net...
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> > animal...
accelerating. The smell was not noticeable, except when it was warming up
in the morning, as I stood next to the tail pipe, packing my bags in the
trunk. I have heard and smelled gasoline engines that were more obnoxious.
I had no idea that the Smart cars were diesels, until I stood next to one as
it accelerated from a stop.
They are never going to be as quiet as a similar sized gasoline engine, but
as I have said numerous times before the real obstacle to diesel acceptance
is political.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DB435.39123BAF@***.net...
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> > animal...
#340
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Diesel Liberty
The VW Golf from Avis that I drove in Spain was barely audible, except when
accelerating. The smell was not noticeable, except when it was warming up
in the morning, as I stood next to the tail pipe, packing my bags in the
trunk. I have heard and smelled gasoline engines that were more obnoxious.
I had no idea that the Smart cars were diesels, until I stood next to one as
it accelerated from a stop.
They are never going to be as quiet as a similar sized gasoline engine, but
as I have said numerous times before the real obstacle to diesel acceptance
is political.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DB435.39123BAF@***.net...
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> > animal...
accelerating. The smell was not noticeable, except when it was warming up
in the morning, as I stood next to the tail pipe, packing my bags in the
trunk. I have heard and smelled gasoline engines that were more obnoxious.
I had no idea that the Smart cars were diesels, until I stood next to one as
it accelerated from a stop.
They are never going to be as quiet as a similar sized gasoline engine, but
as I have said numerous times before the real obstacle to diesel acceptance
is political.
Earle
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:443DB435.39123BAF@***.net...
> Diesels must use up to a 24:1 compression ratio to generate enough
> heat to detonate the fuel. That's like hitting the piston with a hammer,
> there's no way you're going quite that thing down. "philthy" was not
> listening to a diesel, as he couldn't smell it either!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> >
> > Can't say the same about my Ford, but they are two different kinds of
> > animal...