Death Wobble (again)
#121
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Death Wobble (again)
That sounds like they are trying to make the ride too soft or
something....
Spongy bushings and......
I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
guess.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
> is not limited to Jeeps.
>
> Jerry
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> > a built in Death Wobble!
> >
> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get the
> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed the
> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
> >
> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble has
> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
> > out the window at it.
> >
> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on a
> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
> >
> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
> >
> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
> > Jeep????
> >
> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
> > the 'Death traps'.
> >
> > Hmmmm????
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
> > noblow50 wrote:
> >
> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
> >>
> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >>
> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
> >>
> >>really
> >>
> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is evident
> >>
> >>that
> >>
> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
> >>
> >>(both
> >>
> >>>of them).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >><snip>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
something....
Spongy bushings and......
I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
guess.
Mike
Jerry Bransford wrote:
>
> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
> is not limited to Jeeps.
>
> Jerry
>
> Mike Romain wrote:
> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep without
> > a built in Death Wobble!
> >
> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get the
> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed the
> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
> >
> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble has
> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
> > out the window at it.
> >
> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on a
> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
> >
> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
> >
> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
> > Jeep????
> >
> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
> > the 'Death traps'.
> >
> > Hmmmm????
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >
> > noblow50 wrote:
> >
> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
> >>
> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
> >>
> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
> >>
> >>really
> >>
> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is evident
> >>
> >>that
> >>
> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
> >>
> >>(both
> >>
> >>>of them).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >><snip>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#122
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Death Wobble (again)
Bump steer and DW can be eliminated by converting to cross over steering.
have a look here http://www.stu-offroad.com/index.shtml and here.
http://www.extremetjs.com/products.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42E82D7D.927B2849@sympatico.ca...
> That sounds like they are trying to make the ride too soft or
> something....
>
> Spongy bushings and......
>
> I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
> trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
> guess.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
>> is not limited to Jeeps.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep
>> > without
>> > a built in Death Wobble!
>> >
>> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get
>> > the
>> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
>> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed
>> > the
>> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
>> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
>> >
>> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble
>> > has
>> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
>> > out the window at it.
>> >
>> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on
>> > a
>> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
>> >
>> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
>> >
>> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
>> > Jeep????
>> >
>> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
>> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
>> > the 'Death traps'.
>> >
>> > Hmmmm????
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >
>> > noblow50 wrote:
>> >
>> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
>> >>
>> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> >>
>> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
>> >>
>> >>really
>> >>
>> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is
>> >>>evident
>> >>
>> >>that
>> >>
>> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
>> >>
>> >>(both
>> >>
>> >>>of them).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >><snip>
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
have a look here http://www.stu-offroad.com/index.shtml and here.
http://www.extremetjs.com/products.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42E82D7D.927B2849@sympatico.ca...
> That sounds like they are trying to make the ride too soft or
> something....
>
> Spongy bushings and......
>
> I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
> trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
> guess.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
>> is not limited to Jeeps.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep
>> > without
>> > a built in Death Wobble!
>> >
>> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get
>> > the
>> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
>> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed
>> > the
>> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
>> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
>> >
>> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble
>> > has
>> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
>> > out the window at it.
>> >
>> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on
>> > a
>> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
>> >
>> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
>> >
>> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
>> > Jeep????
>> >
>> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
>> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
>> > the 'Death traps'.
>> >
>> > Hmmmm????
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >
>> > noblow50 wrote:
>> >
>> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
>> >>
>> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> >>
>> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
>> >>
>> >>really
>> >>
>> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is
>> >>>evident
>> >>
>> >>that
>> >>
>> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
>> >>
>> >>(both
>> >>
>> >>>of them).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >><snip>
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#123
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Death Wobble (again)
Bump steer and DW can be eliminated by converting to cross over steering.
have a look here http://www.stu-offroad.com/index.shtml and here.
http://www.extremetjs.com/products.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42E82D7D.927B2849@sympatico.ca...
> That sounds like they are trying to make the ride too soft or
> something....
>
> Spongy bushings and......
>
> I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
> trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
> guess.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
>> is not limited to Jeeps.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep
>> > without
>> > a built in Death Wobble!
>> >
>> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get
>> > the
>> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
>> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed
>> > the
>> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
>> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
>> >
>> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble
>> > has
>> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
>> > out the window at it.
>> >
>> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on
>> > a
>> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
>> >
>> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
>> >
>> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
>> > Jeep????
>> >
>> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
>> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
>> > the 'Death traps'.
>> >
>> > Hmmmm????
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >
>> > noblow50 wrote:
>> >
>> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
>> >>
>> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> >>
>> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
>> >>
>> >>really
>> >>
>> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is
>> >>>evident
>> >>
>> >>that
>> >>
>> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
>> >>
>> >>(both
>> >>
>> >>>of them).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >><snip>
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
have a look here http://www.stu-offroad.com/index.shtml and here.
http://www.extremetjs.com/products.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42E82D7D.927B2849@sympatico.ca...
> That sounds like they are trying to make the ride too soft or
> something....
>
> Spongy bushings and......
>
> I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
> trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
> guess.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
>> is not limited to Jeeps.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep
>> > without
>> > a built in Death Wobble!
>> >
>> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get
>> > the
>> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
>> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed
>> > the
>> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
>> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
>> >
>> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble
>> > has
>> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
>> > out the window at it.
>> >
>> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on
>> > a
>> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
>> >
>> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
>> >
>> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
>> > Jeep????
>> >
>> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
>> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
>> > the 'Death traps'.
>> >
>> > Hmmmm????
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >
>> > noblow50 wrote:
>> >
>> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
>> >>
>> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> >>
>> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
>> >>
>> >>really
>> >>
>> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is
>> >>>evident
>> >>
>> >>that
>> >>
>> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
>> >>
>> >>(both
>> >>
>> >>>of them).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >><snip>
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#124
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Death Wobble (again)
Bump steer and DW can be eliminated by converting to cross over steering.
have a look here http://www.stu-offroad.com/index.shtml and here.
http://www.extremetjs.com/products.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42E82D7D.927B2849@sympatico.ca...
> That sounds like they are trying to make the ride too soft or
> something....
>
> Spongy bushings and......
>
> I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
> trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
> guess.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
>> is not limited to Jeeps.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep
>> > without
>> > a built in Death Wobble!
>> >
>> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get
>> > the
>> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
>> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed
>> > the
>> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
>> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
>> >
>> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble
>> > has
>> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
>> > out the window at it.
>> >
>> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on
>> > a
>> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
>> >
>> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
>> >
>> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
>> > Jeep????
>> >
>> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
>> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
>> > the 'Death traps'.
>> >
>> > Hmmmm????
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >
>> > noblow50 wrote:
>> >
>> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
>> >>
>> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> >>
>> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
>> >>
>> >>really
>> >>
>> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is
>> >>>evident
>> >>
>> >>that
>> >>
>> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
>> >>
>> >>(both
>> >>
>> >>>of them).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >><snip>
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
have a look here http://www.stu-offroad.com/index.shtml and here.
http://www.extremetjs.com/products.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42E82D7D.927B2849@sympatico.ca...
> That sounds like they are trying to make the ride too soft or
> something....
>
> Spongy bushings and......
>
> I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
> trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
> guess.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
>> is not limited to Jeeps.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep
>> > without
>> > a built in Death Wobble!
>> >
>> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get
>> > the
>> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
>> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed
>> > the
>> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
>> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
>> >
>> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble
>> > has
>> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
>> > out the window at it.
>> >
>> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on
>> > a
>> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
>> >
>> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
>> >
>> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
>> > Jeep????
>> >
>> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
>> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
>> > the 'Death traps'.
>> >
>> > Hmmmm????
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >
>> > noblow50 wrote:
>> >
>> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
>> >>
>> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> >>
>> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
>> >>
>> >>really
>> >>
>> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is
>> >>>evident
>> >>
>> >>that
>> >>
>> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
>> >>
>> >>(both
>> >>
>> >>>of them).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >><snip>
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
#125
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Death Wobble (again)
Bump steer and DW can be eliminated by converting to cross over steering.
have a look here http://www.stu-offroad.com/index.shtml and here.
http://www.extremetjs.com/products.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42E82D7D.927B2849@sympatico.ca...
> That sounds like they are trying to make the ride too soft or
> something....
>
> Spongy bushings and......
>
> I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
> trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
> guess.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
>> is not limited to Jeeps.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep
>> > without
>> > a built in Death Wobble!
>> >
>> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get
>> > the
>> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
>> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed
>> > the
>> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
>> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
>> >
>> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble
>> > has
>> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
>> > out the window at it.
>> >
>> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on
>> > a
>> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
>> >
>> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
>> >
>> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
>> > Jeep????
>> >
>> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
>> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
>> > the 'Death traps'.
>> >
>> > Hmmmm????
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >
>> > noblow50 wrote:
>> >
>> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
>> >>
>> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> >>
>> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
>> >>
>> >>really
>> >>
>> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is
>> >>>evident
>> >>
>> >>that
>> >>
>> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
>> >>
>> >>(both
>> >>
>> >>>of them).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >><snip>
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
have a look here http://www.stu-offroad.com/index.shtml and here.
http://www.extremetjs.com/products.html
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42E82D7D.927B2849@sympatico.ca...
> That sounds like they are trying to make the ride too soft or
> something....
>
> Spongy bushings and......
>
> I mean a truck is a truck for ride. There is a reason the best heavy
> trucks ride solid or harsh... Soft ride has to compromise something I
> guess.
>
> Mike
>
> Jerry Bransford wrote:
>>
>> Mike, it's also happening with brand-new Dodges and Fords so the problem
>> is not limited to Jeeps.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> Mike Romain wrote:
>> > You know it is really a sad statement that DC cannot make a Jeep
>> > without
>> > a built in Death Wobble!
>> >
>> > On all the older Jeeps, something had to be worn out in order to get
>> > the
>> > Death Wobble. A bad tire only causes a shimmy on them so after you fix
>> > the weight you knocked off or the bad tire, you still went and fixed
>> > the
>> > worn out part allowing that out of control situation to happen. If it
>> > was only a tire shimmy, then fixing the tire was fine.
>> >
>> > A bad shimmy has the steering wheel out of control, the Death Wobble
>> > has
>> > the whole front axle going side to side and is very visible if you look
>> > out the window at it.
>> >
>> > Now according you you poor souls, you can get the Death Wobble even on
>> > a
>> > 'perfect' new Jeep!
>> >
>> > That say a lot to what 'quality' really means these days I guess.
>> >
>> > OR is is a conspiracy by the Germans to have an excuse to kill the
>> > Jeep????
>> >
>> > If it so inherently unstable, it isn't fit for the road so therefore in
>> > the cause of public safety, they will refrain from making any more of
>> > the 'Death traps'.
>> >
>> > Hmmmm????
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >
>> > noblow50 wrote:
>> >
>> >>Oh sh*t, now you did it ;)
>> >>
>> >>"extremetj" <123@abc.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:5LxFe.935$IH2.685@newssvr27.news.prodigy.ne t...
>> >>
>> >>>Those 2 older guy are very funny. but the best part is. I think Bill
>> >>
>> >>really
>> >>
>> >>>knows his stuff I can't say too much about the other guy. It is
>> >>>evident
>> >>
>> >>that
>> >>
>> >>>TIRES are the issue. especially when it did it to me in a new Rubicon
>> >>
>> >>(both
>> >>
>> >>>of them).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >><snip>
>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
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