Re: D-C might become just D and C.
 

On Feb 15, 10:44 pm, "Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJee...@aol.com>
wrote:
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> news:45d3d301$0$4847$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> > For Jeep to be a successful company all on it's own I think it would
> > either need someone or a small group of people with very deep pockets.
>
> it is my belief that for jeep to ever be a successful, stand-alone company
> they must do two things:
>
> 1- downsize
> 2- return to their roots
>
> lets face it, jeep heritage is built on _one_ aspect alone. off-road
> capability. when they water down their name by using it to sell
> soft-roaders they also water down their heritage. it is my belief that if
> they dumped their entire current lineup and sold only two vehicles:
>
> 1- TJ
> 2- XJ
>
> they could sell enough to remain profitable. its this expansion into
> yuppie-ville (commander, compass, patriot, liberty, etc.) that has gotten
> them into trouble.
>
> .....since this will never happen and a parent company is inevitable, id
> like to see ford acquire it. ford has more invested in the original jeep
> heritage than the current day jeep. at least the ford motor company is the
> same company it was back when they were building jeeps. jeep went from
> willys to kaiser to amc to chrysler and now to who knows.
>
> --
> Nathan in Montanahttp://ConcealedCarryForum.comhttp://1911Talk.comhttp://GlockCarry.com

I agree that if anybody should have it, it is Ford. Another
posibility is getting Mahindra CJ3Bs from India.
http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/World/MahindraJp.html

Re: D-C might become just D and C.
 

On Feb 15, 10:44 pm, "Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJee...@aol.com>
wrote:
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> news:45d3d301$0$4847$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> > For Jeep to be a successful company all on it's own I think it would
> > either need someone or a small group of people with very deep pockets.
>
> it is my belief that for jeep to ever be a successful, stand-alone company
> they must do two things:
>
> 1- downsize
> 2- return to their roots
>
> lets face it, jeep heritage is built on _one_ aspect alone. off-road
> capability. when they water down their name by using it to sell
> soft-roaders they also water down their heritage. it is my belief that if
> they dumped their entire current lineup and sold only two vehicles:
>
> 1- TJ
> 2- XJ
>
> they could sell enough to remain profitable. its this expansion into
> yuppie-ville (commander, compass, patriot, liberty, etc.) that has gotten
> them into trouble.
>
> .....since this will never happen and a parent company is inevitable, id
> like to see ford acquire it. ford has more invested in the original jeep
> heritage than the current day jeep. at least the ford motor company is the
> same company it was back when they were building jeeps. jeep went from
> willys to kaiser to amc to chrysler and now to who knows.
>
> --
> Nathan in Montanahttp://ConcealedCarryForum.comhttp://1911Talk.comhttp://GlockCarry.com

I agree that if anybody should have it, it is Ford. Another
posibility is getting Mahindra CJ3Bs from India.
http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/World/MahindraJp.html

Re: D-C might become just D and C.
 

On Feb 15, 10:44 pm, "Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJee...@aol.com>
wrote:
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> news:45d3d301$0$4847$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> > For Jeep to be a successful company all on it's own I think it would
> > either need someone or a small group of people with very deep pockets.
>
> it is my belief that for jeep to ever be a successful, stand-alone company
> they must do two things:
>
> 1- downsize
> 2- return to their roots
>
> lets face it, jeep heritage is built on _one_ aspect alone. off-road
> capability. when they water down their name by using it to sell
> soft-roaders they also water down their heritage. it is my belief that if
> they dumped their entire current lineup and sold only two vehicles:
>
> 1- TJ
> 2- XJ
>
> they could sell enough to remain profitable. its this expansion into
> yuppie-ville (commander, compass, patriot, liberty, etc.) that has gotten
> them into trouble.
>
> .....since this will never happen and a parent company is inevitable, id
> like to see ford acquire it. ford has more invested in the original jeep
> heritage than the current day jeep. at least the ford motor company is the
> same company it was back when they were building jeeps. jeep went from
> willys to kaiser to amc to chrysler and now to who knows.
>
> --
> Nathan in Montanahttp://ConcealedCarryForum.comhttp://1911Talk.comhttp://GlockCarry.com

I agree that if anybody should have it, it is Ford. Another
posibility is getting Mahindra CJ3Bs from India.
http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/World/MahindraJp.html

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

Canadian too. Maybe the owners negotiate better than the Germans who own
DC. I tend to blame UAW, but maybe the locals where the plants are located
got too greedy with the property taxes, municipal fees and general cost of
living.

Earle

"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:45d5324f$0$5730$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Nissan, Honda and Toyota seem to manage with US autoworkers.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers
too
> > much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S.
> > workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some
> > other investor buy the company.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> >>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
> >
> > position
> >
> >>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
> >>
> >>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
> >>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad
> >
> > day
> >
> >>if it ever happens.
> >>
> >>"Coasty" <uscg_ret@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.co m...
> >>
> >>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining
> >>>their design facilities.
> >>>
> >>>Coasty
> >>>
> >>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2.pa nix.com...
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kmg&refer=home
> >
> >>>>Selected highlights:
> >>>>
> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable
> >>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
> >>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup
> >>>>trucks.</q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from
a
> >>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual
> >>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler
to
> >>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
> >>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it
> >>>>said. </q>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
> >
> > Jersey,
> >
> >>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
> >
> > underestimated."
> >
> >>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

Canadian too. Maybe the owners negotiate better than the Germans who own
DC. I tend to blame UAW, but maybe the locals where the plants are located
got too greedy with the property taxes, municipal fees and general cost of
living.

Earle

"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:45d5324f$0$5730$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Nissan, Honda and Toyota seem to manage with US autoworkers.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers
too
> > much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S.
> > workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some
> > other investor buy the company.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> >>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
> >
> > position
> >
> >>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
> >>
> >>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
> >>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad
> >
> > day
> >
> >>if it ever happens.
> >>
> >>"Coasty" <uscg_ret@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.co m...
> >>
> >>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining
> >>>their design facilities.
> >>>
> >>>Coasty
> >>>
> >>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2.pa nix.com...
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kmg&refer=home
> >
> >>>>Selected highlights:
> >>>>
> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable
> >>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
> >>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup
> >>>>trucks.</q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from
a
> >>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual
> >>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler
to
> >>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
> >>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it
> >>>>said. </q>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
> >
> > Jersey,
> >
> >>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
> >
> > underestimated."
> >
> >>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

Canadian too. Maybe the owners negotiate better than the Germans who own
DC. I tend to blame UAW, but maybe the locals where the plants are located
got too greedy with the property taxes, municipal fees and general cost of
living.

Earle

"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:45d5324f$0$5730$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Nissan, Honda and Toyota seem to manage with US autoworkers.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers
too
> > much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S.
> > workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some
> > other investor buy the company.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> >>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
> >
> > position
> >
> >>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
> >>
> >>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
> >>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad
> >
> > day
> >
> >>if it ever happens.
> >>
> >>"Coasty" <uscg_ret@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.co m...
> >>
> >>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining
> >>>their design facilities.
> >>>
> >>>Coasty
> >>>
> >>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2.pa nix.com...
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kmg&refer=home
> >
> >>>>Selected highlights:
> >>>>
> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable
> >>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
> >>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup
> >>>>trucks.</q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from
a
> >>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual
> >>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler
to
> >>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
> >>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it
> >>>>said. </q>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
> >
> > Jersey,
> >
> >>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
> >
> > underestimated."
> >
> >>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

Canadian too. Maybe the owners negotiate better than the Germans who own
DC. I tend to blame UAW, but maybe the locals where the plants are located
got too greedy with the property taxes, municipal fees and general cost of
living.

Earle

"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:45d5324f$0$5730$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Nissan, Honda and Toyota seem to manage with US autoworkers.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> > What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers
too
> > much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S.
> > workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some
> > other investor buy the company.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> > news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> >
> >>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
> >
> > position
> >
> >>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
> >>
> >>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
> >>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad
> >
> > day
> >
> >>if it ever happens.
> >>
> >>"Coasty" <uscg_ret@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.co m...
> >>
> >>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining
> >>>their design facilities.
> >>>
> >>>Coasty
> >>>
> >>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2.pa nix.com...
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kmg&refer=home
> >
> >>>>Selected highlights:
> >>>>
> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable
> >>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
> >>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup
> >>>>trucks.</q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from
a
> >>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual
> >>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
> >>>>
> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler
to
> >>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
> >>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it
> >>>>said. </q>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
> >
> > Jersey,
> >
> >>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
> >
> > underestimated."
> >
> >>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

snip

It's hard to produce
> a quality/cheap vehicle when a company spends more in wages than they
> receive in profits.

Most (all??) manufacturing companies spend way more on wages than
profits. A typical second tier supplier (one that only makes parts from
OEM prints) in the automotive industry might have wages in the 20%
range, benefits in the 15% range, materials in 30% range, plant,
machines, and other overhead in the 25% range, net profit under 10%.
Note that the cost components of those numbers add to 100%, to make a
profit you need to squeeze something.





>
> I'm not being anti-American here, just stating basic economic fact.
>
> On Feb 16, 12:39 am, "billy ray" <billy_...@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>
>>All the good manufacturing jobs are now overseas. Greedy and corrupt union
>>officials ensured that the remaining workers could no longer afford to buy
>>American made products... We will disregard that the American manufacturers
>>designed products to self destruct the day after the warranty expired.
>>
>>We have met the enemy and he is us......
>>
>>"Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>
>>news:mpSdnXAioO7OJEnYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@comcast.co m...
>>
>>
>>>What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers
>>>too
>>>much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S.
>>>workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some
>>>other investor buy the company.
>>
>>>Earle
>>
>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
>>>
>>>position
>>>
>>>>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
>>
>>>>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
>>>>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad
>>>
>>>day
>>>
>>>>if it ever happens.
>>
>>>>"Coasty" <uscg_...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining
>>>>>their design facilities.
>>
>>>>>Coasty
>>
>>>>>"Lee Ayrton" <layr...@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2. panix.com...
>>
>>>http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...1gqnZskmg&refe...
>>
>>>>>>Selected highlights:
>>
>>>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable
>>>>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
>>>>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup
>>>>>>trucks.</q>
>>
>>>>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
>>
>>>>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
>>
>>>>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual
>>>>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
>>
>>>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
>>>>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it
>>>>>>said. </q>
>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
>>>
>>>Jersey,
>>>
>>>>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
>>>
>>>underestimated."
>>>
>>>>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
>
>
>

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

snip

It's hard to produce
> a quality/cheap vehicle when a company spends more in wages than they
> receive in profits.

Most (all??) manufacturing companies spend way more on wages than
profits. A typical second tier supplier (one that only makes parts from
OEM prints) in the automotive industry might have wages in the 20%
range, benefits in the 15% range, materials in 30% range, plant,
machines, and other overhead in the 25% range, net profit under 10%.
Note that the cost components of those numbers add to 100%, to make a
profit you need to squeeze something.





>
> I'm not being anti-American here, just stating basic economic fact.
>
> On Feb 16, 12:39 am, "billy ray" <billy_...@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>
>>All the good manufacturing jobs are now overseas. Greedy and corrupt union
>>officials ensured that the remaining workers could no longer afford to buy
>>American made products... We will disregard that the American manufacturers
>>designed products to self destruct the day after the warranty expired.
>>
>>We have met the enemy and he is us......
>>
>>"Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>
>>news:mpSdnXAioO7OJEnYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@comcast.co m...
>>
>>
>>>What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers
>>>too
>>>much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S.
>>>workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some
>>>other investor buy the company.
>>
>>>Earle
>>
>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
>>>
>>>position
>>>
>>>>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
>>
>>>>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
>>>>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad
>>>
>>>day
>>>
>>>>if it ever happens.
>>
>>>>"Coasty" <uscg_...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining
>>>>>their design facilities.
>>
>>>>>Coasty
>>
>>>>>"Lee Ayrton" <layr...@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2. panix.com...
>>
>>>http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...1gqnZskmg&refe...
>>
>>>>>>Selected highlights:
>>
>>>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable
>>>>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
>>>>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup
>>>>>>trucks.</q>
>>
>>>>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
>>
>>>>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
>>
>>>>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual
>>>>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
>>
>>>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
>>>>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it
>>>>>>said. </q>
>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
>>>
>>>Jersey,
>>>
>>>>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
>>>
>>>underestimated."
>>>
>>>>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
>
>
>

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

snip

It's hard to produce
> a quality/cheap vehicle when a company spends more in wages than they
> receive in profits.

Most (all??) manufacturing companies spend way more on wages than
profits. A typical second tier supplier (one that only makes parts from
OEM prints) in the automotive industry might have wages in the 20%
range, benefits in the 15% range, materials in 30% range, plant,
machines, and other overhead in the 25% range, net profit under 10%.
Note that the cost components of those numbers add to 100%, to make a
profit you need to squeeze something.





>
> I'm not being anti-American here, just stating basic economic fact.
>
> On Feb 16, 12:39 am, "billy ray" <billy_...@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
>
>>All the good manufacturing jobs are now overseas. Greedy and corrupt union
>>officials ensured that the remaining workers could no longer afford to buy
>>American made products... We will disregard that the American manufacturers
>>designed products to self destruct the day after the warranty expired.
>>
>>We have met the enemy and he is us......
>>
>>"Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>
>>news:mpSdnXAioO7OJEnYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@comcast.co m...
>>
>>
>>>What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers
>>>too
>>>much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S.
>>>workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some
>>>other investor buy the company.
>>
>>>Earle
>>
>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
>>>
>>>position
>>>
>>>>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
>>
>>>>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
>>>>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad
>>>
>>>day
>>>
>>>>if it ever happens.
>>
>>>>"Coasty" <uscg_...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining
>>>>>their design facilities.
>>
>>>>>Coasty
>>
>>>>>"Lee Ayrton" <layr...@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2. panix.com...
>>
>>>http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...1gqnZskmg&refe...
>>
>>>>>>Selected highlights:
>>
>>>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable
>>>>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
>>>>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup
>>>>>>trucks.</q>
>>
>>>>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
>>
>>>>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
>>
>>>>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual
>>>>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
>>
>>>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
>>>>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it
>>>>>>said. </q>
>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
>>>
>>>Jersey,
>>>
>>>>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
>>>
>>>underestimated."
>>>
>>>>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
>
>
>