Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

Jeep used an odd firing 6 cylinder for years, why not join with a company
that makes odd-firing motorcycle engines?


"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
news:4143d$45d4e14f$454958a1$9526@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Hmm - a two cylinder air cooled Jeep?
>
> Highcountry wrote:
>> How about the new 2008 Jeep "Fat Boy"???
>>
>> Harley Davidson could buy JUST the Jeep group and jettison the newer
>> B.S. products, then take Jeep back to their real Jeep roots that the
>> Germans disolved while trying to make a buck. I am not exactly a
>> Harley fan, but they DO have "some" patriotism left in their company!
>>
>> Bruce
>>

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

A Harley rider might have 7 teeth...

"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
news:b0f8$45d50414$454958a1$22267@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Sweet! But where will they put the seven slot grille?
>
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> A 4.0 I-6 Harley? With 2WD! (front and rear)
>>
>> Clap Trap wrote:
>>> Hmm - a two cylinder air cooled Jeep?
>>>
>>> Highcountry wrote:
>>>> How about the new 2008 Jeep "Fat Boy"???
>>>>
>>>> Harley Davidson could buy JUST the Jeep group and jettison the newer
>>>> B.S. products, then take Jeep back to their real Jeep roots that the
>>>> Germans disolved while trying to make a buck. I am not exactly a
>>>> Harley fan, but they DO have "some" patriotism left in their company!
>>>>
>>>> Bruce
>>>>
>>

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

A Harley rider might have 7 teeth...

"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
news:b0f8$45d50414$454958a1$22267@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Sweet! But where will they put the seven slot grille?
>
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> A 4.0 I-6 Harley? With 2WD! (front and rear)
>>
>> Clap Trap wrote:
>>> Hmm - a two cylinder air cooled Jeep?
>>>
>>> Highcountry wrote:
>>>> How about the new 2008 Jeep "Fat Boy"???
>>>>
>>>> Harley Davidson could buy JUST the Jeep group and jettison the newer
>>>> B.S. products, then take Jeep back to their real Jeep roots that the
>>>> Germans disolved while trying to make a buck. I am not exactly a
>>>> Harley fan, but they DO have "some" patriotism left in their company!
>>>>
>>>> Bruce
>>>>
>>

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

A Harley rider might have 7 teeth...

"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
news:b0f8$45d50414$454958a1$22267@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Sweet! But where will they put the seven slot grille?
>
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> A 4.0 I-6 Harley? With 2WD! (front and rear)
>>
>> Clap Trap wrote:
>>> Hmm - a two cylinder air cooled Jeep?
>>>
>>> Highcountry wrote:
>>>> How about the new 2008 Jeep "Fat Boy"???
>>>>
>>>> Harley Davidson could buy JUST the Jeep group and jettison the newer
>>>> B.S. products, then take Jeep back to their real Jeep roots that the
>>>> Germans disolved while trying to make a buck. I am not exactly a
>>>> Harley fan, but they DO have "some" patriotism left in their company!
>>>>
>>>> Bruce
>>>>
>>

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

A Harley rider might have 7 teeth...

"Clap Trap" <nowhere@the.net> wrote in message
news:b0f8$45d50414$454958a1$22267@KNOLOGY.NET...
> Sweet! But where will they put the seven slot grille?
>
> Frank_v7.0 wrote:
>> A 4.0 I-6 Harley? With 2WD! (front and rear)
>>
>> Clap Trap wrote:
>>> Hmm - a two cylinder air cooled Jeep?
>>>
>>> Highcountry wrote:
>>>> How about the new 2008 Jeep "Fat Boy"???
>>>>
>>>> Harley Davidson could buy JUST the Jeep group and jettison the newer
>>>> B.S. products, then take Jeep back to their real Jeep roots that the
>>>> Germans disolved while trying to make a buck. I am not exactly a
>>>> Harley fan, but they DO have "some" patriotism left in their company!
>>>>
>>>> Bruce
>>>>
>>

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

The good manufacturing jobs are overseas because the cost of living in
the US is so high, coupled with the fact that most Americans expect
cheap prices for all goods, including vehicles. It's hard to produce
a quality/cheap vehicle when a company spends more in wages than they
receive in profits.

I'm not being anti-American here, just stating basic economic fact.

On Feb 16, 12:39 am, "billy ray" <billy_...@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> All the good manufacturing jobs are now overseas. Greedy and corrupt union
> officials ensured that the remaining workers could no longer afford to buy
> American made products... We will disregard that the American manufacturers
> designed products to self destruct the day after the warranty expired.
>
> We have met the enemy and he is us......
>
> "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>
> news:mpSdnXAioO7OJEnYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> > What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers
> > too
> > much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S.
> > workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some
> > other investor buy the company.
>
> > Earle
>
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.com ...
> >> Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
> > position
> >> to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
>
> >> I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
> >> manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad
> > day
> >> if it ever happens.
>
> >> "Coasty" <uscg_...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.co m...
> >> > ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining
> >> > their design facilities.
>
> >> > Coasty
>
> >> > "Lee Ayrton" <layr...@panix.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2.pani x.com...
>
> >http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...1gqnZskmg&refe...
>
> >> >> Selected highlights:
>
> >> >> <q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable
> >> >> Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
> >> >> carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup
> >> >> trucks.</q>
>
> >> >> <q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from
> >> >> a
> >> >> possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
>
> >> >> <q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
>
> >> >> <q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual
> >> >> meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
>
> >> >> <q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler
> >> >> to
> >> >> the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
> >> >> unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it
> >> >> said. </q>
>
> >> >> --
> >> >> "We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
> > Jersey,
> >> >> that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
> > underestimated."
> >> >> Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

The good manufacturing jobs are overseas because the cost of living in
the US is so high, coupled with the fact that most Americans expect
cheap prices for all goods, including vehicles. It's hard to produce
a quality/cheap vehicle when a company spends more in wages than they
receive in profits.

I'm not being anti-American here, just stating basic economic fact.

On Feb 16, 12:39 am, "billy ray" <billy_...@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> All the good manufacturing jobs are now overseas. Greedy and corrupt union
> officials ensured that the remaining workers could no longer afford to buy
> American made products... We will disregard that the American manufacturers
> designed products to self destruct the day after the warranty expired.
>
> We have met the enemy and he is us......
>
> "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>
> news:mpSdnXAioO7OJEnYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> > What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers
> > too
> > much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S.
> > workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some
> > other investor buy the company.
>
> > Earle
>
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.com ...
> >> Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
> > position
> >> to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
>
> >> I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
> >> manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad
> > day
> >> if it ever happens.
>
> >> "Coasty" <uscg_...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.co m...
> >> > ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining
> >> > their design facilities.
>
> >> > Coasty
>
> >> > "Lee Ayrton" <layr...@panix.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2.pani x.com...
>
> >http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...1gqnZskmg&refe...
>
> >> >> Selected highlights:
>
> >> >> <q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable
> >> >> Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
> >> >> carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup
> >> >> trucks.</q>
>
> >> >> <q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from
> >> >> a
> >> >> possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
>
> >> >> <q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
>
> >> >> <q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual
> >> >> meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
>
> >> >> <q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler
> >> >> to
> >> >> the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
> >> >> unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it
> >> >> said. </q>
>
> >> >> --
> >> >> "We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
> > Jersey,
> >> >> that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
> > underestimated."
> >> >> Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

The good manufacturing jobs are overseas because the cost of living in
the US is so high, coupled with the fact that most Americans expect
cheap prices for all goods, including vehicles. It's hard to produce
a quality/cheap vehicle when a company spends more in wages than they
receive in profits.

I'm not being anti-American here, just stating basic economic fact.

On Feb 16, 12:39 am, "billy ray" <billy_...@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> All the good manufacturing jobs are now overseas. Greedy and corrupt union
> officials ensured that the remaining workers could no longer afford to buy
> American made products... We will disregard that the American manufacturers
> designed products to self destruct the day after the warranty expired.
>
> We have met the enemy and he is us......
>
> "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>
> news:mpSdnXAioO7OJEnYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> > What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers
> > too
> > much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S.
> > workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some
> > other investor buy the company.
>
> > Earle
>
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.com ...
> >> Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
> > position
> >> to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
>
> >> I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
> >> manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad
> > day
> >> if it ever happens.
>
> >> "Coasty" <uscg_...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.co m...
> >> > ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining
> >> > their design facilities.
>
> >> > Coasty
>
> >> > "Lee Ayrton" <layr...@panix.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2.pani x.com...
>
> >http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...1gqnZskmg&refe...
>
> >> >> Selected highlights:
>
> >> >> <q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable
> >> >> Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
> >> >> carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup
> >> >> trucks.</q>
>
> >> >> <q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from
> >> >> a
> >> >> possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
>
> >> >> <q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
>
> >> >> <q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual
> >> >> meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
>
> >> >> <q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler
> >> >> to
> >> >> the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
> >> >> unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it
> >> >> said. </q>
>
> >> >> --
> >> >> "We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
> > Jersey,
> >> >> that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
> > underestimated."
> >> >> Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

The good manufacturing jobs are overseas because the cost of living in
the US is so high, coupled with the fact that most Americans expect
cheap prices for all goods, including vehicles. It's hard to produce
a quality/cheap vehicle when a company spends more in wages than they
receive in profits.

I'm not being anti-American here, just stating basic economic fact.

On Feb 16, 12:39 am, "billy ray" <billy_...@SPAMfuse.net> wrote:
> All the good manufacturing jobs are now overseas. Greedy and corrupt union
> officials ensured that the remaining workers could no longer afford to buy
> American made products... We will disregard that the American manufacturers
> designed products to self destruct the day after the warranty expired.
>
> We have met the enemy and he is us......
>
> "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>
> news:mpSdnXAioO7OJEnYnZ2dnUVZ_ragnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
> > What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers
> > too
> > much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S.
> > workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some
> > other investor buy the company.
>
> > Earle
>
> > "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.com ...
> >> Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
> > position
> >> to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
>
> >> I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
> >> manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad
> > day
> >> if it ever happens.
>
> >> "Coasty" <uscg_...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.co m...
> >> > ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining
> >> > their design facilities.
>
> >> > Coasty
>
> >> > "Lee Ayrton" <layr...@panix.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2.pani x.com...
>
> >http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...1gqnZskmg&refe...
>
> >> >> Selected highlights:
>
> >> >> <q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable
> >> >> Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
> >> >> carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup
> >> >> trucks.</q>
>
> >> >> <q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from
> >> >> a
> >> >> possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
>
> >> >> <q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
>
> >> >> <q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual
> >> >> meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
>
> >> >> <q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler
> >> >> to
> >> >> the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
> >> >> unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it
> >> >> said. </q>
>
> >> >> --
> >> >> "We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
> > Jersey,
> >> >> that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
> > underestimated."
> >> >> Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.

Re: D-C might become just D and C.
 

On Feb 15, 10:44 pm, "Nathan In Montana" <MontanaJee...@aol.com>
wrote:
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeW...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> news:45d3d301$0$4847$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>
> > For Jeep to be a successful company all on it's own I think it would
> > either need someone or a small group of people with very deep pockets.
>
> it is my belief that for jeep to ever be a successful, stand-alone company
> they must do two things:
>
> 1- downsize
> 2- return to their roots
>
> lets face it, jeep heritage is built on _one_ aspect alone. off-road
> capability. when they water down their name by using it to sell
> soft-roaders they also water down their heritage. it is my belief that if
> they dumped their entire current lineup and sold only two vehicles:
>
> 1- TJ
> 2- XJ
>
> they could sell enough to remain profitable. its this expansion into
> yuppie-ville (commander, compass, patriot, liberty, etc.) that has gotten
> them into trouble.
>
> .....since this will never happen and a parent company is inevitable, id
> like to see ford acquire it. ford has more invested in the original jeep
> heritage than the current day jeep. at least the ford motor company is the
> same company it was back when they were building jeeps. jeep went from
> willys to kaiser to amc to chrysler and now to who knows.
>
> --
> Nathan in Montanahttp://ConcealedCarryForum.comhttp://1911Talk.comhttp://GlockCarry.com

I agree that if anybody should have it, it is Ford. Another
posibility is getting Mahindra CJ3Bs from India.
http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/World/MahindraJp.html