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Re: D-C might become just D and C.
That would REALLY suck, Damlier Chrysler is bad enough, if Toyota buys
Jeep that will be it for me and Jeep. Jeff DeWitt Ken Finney wrote: > "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:45d3d301$0$4847$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > >>I wonder what is the smallest size a viable car company in the current US >>market is? Would an independent Jeep be able to survive on it's own? >> >>Somehow I doubt it, and if it DID it would really have to be a privately >>held company, otherwise someone would swallow it up. >> >>For Jeep to be a successful company all on it's own I think it would >>either need someone or a small group of people with very deep pockets. >> >>Hmm, wonder what Bill Gates drives? >> >>Jeff DeWitt >> >>Clap Trap wrote: >> >>>Wouldn't it be great if Jeep broke off and became its own entity again? >>>Maybe then we could dump the libby, IFS, and get a small Jeep again. >>> >>>Wishful thinking I know. Sigh... > > > Toyota is the most likely buyer for Jeep. > |
Re: D-C might become just D and C
Nissan, Honda and Toyota seem to manage with US autoworkers.
Jeff DeWitt Earle Horton wrote: > What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers too > much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S. > workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some > other investor buy the company. > > Earle > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial > > position > >>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now. >> >>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese >>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad > > day > >>if it ever happens. >> >>"Coasty" <uscg_ret@comcast.net> wrote in message >>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.co m... >> >>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining >>>their design facilities. >>> >>>Coasty >>> >>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message >>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2.pa nix.com... >>> >>>> >>>> > http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kmg&refer=home > >>>>Selected highlights: >>>> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable >>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful >>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup >>>>trucks.</q> >>>> >>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from a >>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q> >>>> >>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q> >>>> >>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual >>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q> >>>> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler to >>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing >>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it >>>>said. </q> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New > > Jersey, > >>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been > > underestimated." > >>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast. >>>> >>> >> > > |
Re: D-C might become just D and C
Nissan, Honda and Toyota seem to manage with US autoworkers.
Jeff DeWitt Earle Horton wrote: > What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers too > much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S. > workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some > other investor buy the company. > > Earle > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial > > position > >>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now. >> >>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese >>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad > > day > >>if it ever happens. >> >>"Coasty" <uscg_ret@comcast.net> wrote in message >>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.co m... >> >>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining >>>their design facilities. >>> >>>Coasty >>> >>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message >>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2.pa nix.com... >>> >>>> >>>> > http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kmg&refer=home > >>>>Selected highlights: >>>> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable >>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful >>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup >>>>trucks.</q> >>>> >>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from a >>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q> >>>> >>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q> >>>> >>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual >>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q> >>>> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler to >>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing >>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it >>>>said. </q> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New > > Jersey, > >>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been > > underestimated." > >>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast. >>>> >>> >> > > |
Re: D-C might become just D and C
Nissan, Honda and Toyota seem to manage with US autoworkers.
Jeff DeWitt Earle Horton wrote: > What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers too > much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S. > workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some > other investor buy the company. > > Earle > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial > > position > >>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now. >> >>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese >>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad > > day > >>if it ever happens. >> >>"Coasty" <uscg_ret@comcast.net> wrote in message >>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.co m... >> >>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining >>>their design facilities. >>> >>>Coasty >>> >>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message >>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2.pa nix.com... >>> >>>> >>>> > http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kmg&refer=home > >>>>Selected highlights: >>>> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable >>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful >>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup >>>>trucks.</q> >>>> >>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from a >>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q> >>>> >>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q> >>>> >>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual >>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q> >>>> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler to >>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing >>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it >>>>said. </q> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New > > Jersey, > >>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been > > underestimated." > >>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast. >>>> >>> >> > > |
Re: D-C might become just D and C
Nissan, Honda and Toyota seem to manage with US autoworkers.
Jeff DeWitt Earle Horton wrote: > What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers too > much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S. > workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some > other investor buy the company. > > Earle > > "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message > news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > >>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial > > position > >>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now. >> >>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese >>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad > > day > >>if it ever happens. >> >>"Coasty" <uscg_ret@comcast.net> wrote in message >>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.co m... >> >>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining >>>their design facilities. >>> >>>Coasty >>> >>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message >>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2.pa nix.com... >>> >>>> >>>> > http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kmg&refer=home > >>>>Selected highlights: >>>> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable >>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful >>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup >>>>trucks.</q> >>>> >>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from a >>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q> >>>> >>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q> >>>> >>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual >>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q> >>>> >>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler to >>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing >>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it >>>>said. </q> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New > > Jersey, > >>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been > > underestimated." > >>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast. >>>> >>> >> > > |
Re: D-C might become just D and C.
"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:45d3d301$0$4847$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > For Jeep to be a successful company all on it's own I think it would > either need someone or a small group of people with very deep pockets. it is my belief that for jeep to ever be a successful, stand-alone company they must do two things: 1- downsize 2- return to their roots lets face it, jeep heritage is built on _one_ aspect alone. off-road capability. when they water down their name by using it to sell soft-roaders they also water down their heritage. it is my belief that if they dumped their entire current lineup and sold only two vehicles: 1- TJ 2- XJ they could sell enough to remain profitable. its this expansion into yuppie-ville (commander, compass, patriot, liberty, etc.) that has gotten them into trouble. ......since this will never happen and a parent company is inevitable, id like to see ford acquire it. ford has more invested in the original jeep heritage than the current day jeep. at least the ford motor company is the same company it was back when they were building jeeps. jeep went from willys to kaiser to amc to chrysler and now to who knows. -- Nathan in Montana http://ConcealedCarryForum.com http://1911Talk.com http://GlockCarry.com |
Re: D-C might become just D and C.
"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:45d3d301$0$4847$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > For Jeep to be a successful company all on it's own I think it would > either need someone or a small group of people with very deep pockets. it is my belief that for jeep to ever be a successful, stand-alone company they must do two things: 1- downsize 2- return to their roots lets face it, jeep heritage is built on _one_ aspect alone. off-road capability. when they water down their name by using it to sell soft-roaders they also water down their heritage. it is my belief that if they dumped their entire current lineup and sold only two vehicles: 1- TJ 2- XJ they could sell enough to remain profitable. its this expansion into yuppie-ville (commander, compass, patriot, liberty, etc.) that has gotten them into trouble. ......since this will never happen and a parent company is inevitable, id like to see ford acquire it. ford has more invested in the original jeep heritage than the current day jeep. at least the ford motor company is the same company it was back when they were building jeeps. jeep went from willys to kaiser to amc to chrysler and now to who knows. -- Nathan in Montana http://ConcealedCarryForum.com http://1911Talk.com http://GlockCarry.com |
Re: D-C might become just D and C.
"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:45d3d301$0$4847$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > For Jeep to be a successful company all on it's own I think it would > either need someone or a small group of people with very deep pockets. it is my belief that for jeep to ever be a successful, stand-alone company they must do two things: 1- downsize 2- return to their roots lets face it, jeep heritage is built on _one_ aspect alone. off-road capability. when they water down their name by using it to sell soft-roaders they also water down their heritage. it is my belief that if they dumped their entire current lineup and sold only two vehicles: 1- TJ 2- XJ they could sell enough to remain profitable. its this expansion into yuppie-ville (commander, compass, patriot, liberty, etc.) that has gotten them into trouble. ......since this will never happen and a parent company is inevitable, id like to see ford acquire it. ford has more invested in the original jeep heritage than the current day jeep. at least the ford motor company is the same company it was back when they were building jeeps. jeep went from willys to kaiser to amc to chrysler and now to who knows. -- Nathan in Montana http://ConcealedCarryForum.com http://1911Talk.com http://GlockCarry.com |
Re: D-C might become just D and C.
"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:45d3d301$0$4847$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > For Jeep to be a successful company all on it's own I think it would > either need someone or a small group of people with very deep pockets. it is my belief that for jeep to ever be a successful, stand-alone company they must do two things: 1- downsize 2- return to their roots lets face it, jeep heritage is built on _one_ aspect alone. off-road capability. when they water down their name by using it to sell soft-roaders they also water down their heritage. it is my belief that if they dumped their entire current lineup and sold only two vehicles: 1- TJ 2- XJ they could sell enough to remain profitable. its this expansion into yuppie-ville (commander, compass, patriot, liberty, etc.) that has gotten them into trouble. ......since this will never happen and a parent company is inevitable, id like to see ford acquire it. ford has more invested in the original jeep heritage than the current day jeep. at least the ford motor company is the same company it was back when they were building jeeps. jeep went from willys to kaiser to amc to chrysler and now to who knows. -- Nathan in Montana http://ConcealedCarryForum.com http://1911Talk.com http://GlockCarry.com |
Re: D-C might become just D and C.
"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
news:CJKdnQCkYLlGRk7YnZ2dnUVZ_tKjnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > But Ford is having its own problems. GM, too. is there any wonder why? i was planning to purchase another 1 ton 4x4 dually for a service truck. both the f350 and the comparable chevy were over $45,000. absolutely ridiculous. im going to get the wifey a new yuppie-ride instead, and just take her '04.5 dodge. -- Nathan in Montana http://ConcealedCarryForum.com http://1911Talk.com http://GlockCarry.com |
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