Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

If the leadership at the UAW gave a .... (insert vulgarity of choice) about
the country they would not....<sigh>

Almost got me going there Earle... Ya know... sometimes when things had
been too quiet my Dad would slip in a comment to get me going........


"Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45d770ff$0$2164$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> Naw, I think they might buy into that "I'm an American and I work for
> Americans" line. They don't shop at Walmart, they don't play Chinese
> Checkers and they only eat Freedom Fries.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:83740$45d76a8f$422afc51$21179@FUSE.NET...
>> All you would need is a handful of envelopes full of cash to quell an
>> objections from the UAW Politburo.
>>
>>
>> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:gp6dnbhtu_PJwUrYnZ2dnUVZ_tDinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> >
>> > The same discussion allows that hell will freeze over before the UAW
> would
>> > allow anyone to even just buy the name without dealing with them first.
>> > They've offered concessions to GM and Ford, but apparently have a real
>> > hard on for DC management.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Earle Horton proclaimed:
>> >
>> >> What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S.
>> >> autoworkers
>> >> too
>> >> much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same
>> >> U.S.
>> >> workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having
> some
>> >> other investor buy the company.
>> >>
>> >> Earle
>> >>
>> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> >>
>> >>>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
>> >>
>> >> position
>> >>
>> >>>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
>> >>>
>> >>>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
>> >>>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a
> sad
>> >>
>> >> day
>> >>
>> >>>if it ever happens.
>> >>>
>> >>>"Coasty" <uscg_ret@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>> >>>
>> >>>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and
> combining
>> >>>>their design facilities.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Coasty
>> >>>>
>> >>>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2.p anix.com...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kmg&refer=home
>> >>
>> >>>>>Selected highlights:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its
>> >>>>>unprofitable
>> >>>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
>> >>>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge
> pickup
>> >>>>>trucks.</q>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected
>> >>>>>from
> a
>> >>>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the
>> >>>>>annual
>> >>>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler
> to
>> >>>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
>> >>>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,''
>> >>>>>it
>> >>>>>said. </q>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>--
>> >>>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
>> >>
>> >> Jersey,
>> >>
>> >>>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
>> >>
>> >> underestimated."
>> >>
>> >>>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>
>

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

If the leadership at the UAW gave a .... (insert vulgarity of choice) about
the country they would not....<sigh>

Almost got me going there Earle... Ya know... sometimes when things had
been too quiet my Dad would slip in a comment to get me going........


"Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45d770ff$0$2164$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> Naw, I think they might buy into that "I'm an American and I work for
> Americans" line. They don't shop at Walmart, they don't play Chinese
> Checkers and they only eat Freedom Fries.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:83740$45d76a8f$422afc51$21179@FUSE.NET...
>> All you would need is a handful of envelopes full of cash to quell an
>> objections from the UAW Politburo.
>>
>>
>> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:gp6dnbhtu_PJwUrYnZ2dnUVZ_tDinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> >
>> > The same discussion allows that hell will freeze over before the UAW
> would
>> > allow anyone to even just buy the name without dealing with them first.
>> > They've offered concessions to GM and Ford, but apparently have a real
>> > hard on for DC management.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Earle Horton proclaimed:
>> >
>> >> What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S.
>> >> autoworkers
>> >> too
>> >> much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same
>> >> U.S.
>> >> workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having
> some
>> >> other investor buy the company.
>> >>
>> >> Earle
>> >>
>> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> >>
>> >>>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
>> >>
>> >> position
>> >>
>> >>>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
>> >>>
>> >>>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
>> >>>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a
> sad
>> >>
>> >> day
>> >>
>> >>>if it ever happens.
>> >>>
>> >>>"Coasty" <uscg_ret@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>> >>>
>> >>>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and
> combining
>> >>>>their design facilities.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Coasty
>> >>>>
>> >>>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2.p anix.com...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kmg&refer=home
>> >>
>> >>>>>Selected highlights:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its
>> >>>>>unprofitable
>> >>>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
>> >>>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge
> pickup
>> >>>>>trucks.</q>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected
>> >>>>>from
> a
>> >>>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the
>> >>>>>annual
>> >>>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler
> to
>> >>>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
>> >>>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,''
>> >>>>>it
>> >>>>>said. </q>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>--
>> >>>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
>> >>
>> >> Jersey,
>> >>
>> >>>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
>> >>
>> >> underestimated."
>> >>
>> >>>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>
>

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

If the leadership at the UAW gave a .... (insert vulgarity of choice) about
the country they would not....<sigh>

Almost got me going there Earle... Ya know... sometimes when things had
been too quiet my Dad would slip in a comment to get me going........


"Earle Horton" <gracioso@usa.com> wrote in message
news:45d770ff$0$2164$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> Naw, I think they might buy into that "I'm an American and I work for
> Americans" line. They don't shop at Walmart, they don't play Chinese
> Checkers and they only eat Freedom Fries.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message
> news:83740$45d76a8f$422afc51$21179@FUSE.NET...
>> All you would need is a handful of envelopes full of cash to quell an
>> objections from the UAW Politburo.
>>
>>
>> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:gp6dnbhtu_PJwUrYnZ2dnUVZ_tDinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> >
>> > The same discussion allows that hell will freeze over before the UAW
> would
>> > allow anyone to even just buy the name without dealing with them first.
>> > They've offered concessions to GM and Ford, but apparently have a real
>> > hard on for DC management.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Earle Horton proclaimed:
>> >
>> >> What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S.
>> >> autoworkers
>> >> too
>> >> much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same
>> >> U.S.
>> >> workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having
> some
>> >> other investor buy the company.
>> >>
>> >> Earle
>> >>
>> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> >>
>> >>>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
>> >>
>> >> position
>> >>
>> >>>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
>> >>>
>> >>>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
>> >>>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a
> sad
>> >>
>> >> day
>> >>
>> >>>if it ever happens.
>> >>>
>> >>>"Coasty" <uscg_ret@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >>>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>> >>>
>> >>>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and
> combining
>> >>>>their design facilities.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Coasty
>> >>>>
>> >>>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2.p anix.com...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kmg&refer=home
>> >>
>> >>>>>Selected highlights:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its
>> >>>>>unprofitable
>> >>>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
>> >>>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge
> pickup
>> >>>>>trucks.</q>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected
>> >>>>>from
> a
>> >>>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the
>> >>>>>annual
>> >>>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler
> to
>> >>>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
>> >>>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,''
>> >>>>>it
>> >>>>>said. </q>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>--
>> >>>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
>> >>
>> >> Jersey,
>> >>
>> >>>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
>> >>
>> >> underestimated."
>> >>
>> >>>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>>
>
>

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

If that doesn't work, a convenient NFL stadium under construction....

billy ray proclaimed:

> All you would need is a handful of envelopes full of cash to quell an
> objections from the UAW Politburo.
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:gp6dnbhtu_PJwUrYnZ2dnUVZ_tDinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>The same discussion allows that hell will freeze over before the UAW would
>>allow anyone to even just buy the name without dealing with them first.
>>They've offered concessions to GM and Ford, but apparently have a real
>>hard on for DC management.
>>
>>
>>
>>Earle Horton proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers
>>>too
>>>much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S.
>>>workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some
>>>other investor buy the company.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
>>>
>>>position
>>>
>>>
>>>>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
>>>>
>>>>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
>>>>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad
>>>
>>>day
>>>
>>>
>>>>if it ever happens.
>>>>
>>>>"Coasty" <uscg_ret@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining
>>>>>their design facilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>Coasty
>>>>>
>>>>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2. panix.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kmg&refer=home
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Selected highlights:
>>>>>>
>>>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable
>>>>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
>>>>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup
>>>>>>trucks.</q>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from a
>>>>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual
>>>>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler to
>>>>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
>>>>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it
>>>>>>said. </q>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
>>>
>>>Jersey,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
>>>
>>>underestimated."
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

If that doesn't work, a convenient NFL stadium under construction....

billy ray proclaimed:

> All you would need is a handful of envelopes full of cash to quell an
> objections from the UAW Politburo.
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:gp6dnbhtu_PJwUrYnZ2dnUVZ_tDinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>The same discussion allows that hell will freeze over before the UAW would
>>allow anyone to even just buy the name without dealing with them first.
>>They've offered concessions to GM and Ford, but apparently have a real
>>hard on for DC management.
>>
>>
>>
>>Earle Horton proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers
>>>too
>>>much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S.
>>>workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some
>>>other investor buy the company.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
>>>
>>>position
>>>
>>>
>>>>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
>>>>
>>>>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
>>>>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad
>>>
>>>day
>>>
>>>
>>>>if it ever happens.
>>>>
>>>>"Coasty" <uscg_ret@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining
>>>>>their design facilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>Coasty
>>>>>
>>>>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2. panix.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kmg&refer=home
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Selected highlights:
>>>>>>
>>>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable
>>>>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
>>>>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup
>>>>>>trucks.</q>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from a
>>>>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual
>>>>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler to
>>>>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
>>>>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it
>>>>>>said. </q>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
>>>
>>>Jersey,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
>>>
>>>underestimated."
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>

Re: D-C might become just D and C
 

If that doesn't work, a convenient NFL stadium under construction....

billy ray proclaimed:

> All you would need is a handful of envelopes full of cash to quell an
> objections from the UAW Politburo.
>
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:gp6dnbhtu_PJwUrYnZ2dnUVZ_tDinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>The same discussion allows that hell will freeze over before the UAW would
>>allow anyone to even just buy the name without dealing with them first.
>>They've offered concessions to GM and Ford, but apparently have a real
>>hard on for DC management.
>>
>>
>>
>>Earle Horton proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>What I saw on the network news is that you have to pay U.S. autoworkers
>>>too
>>>much, to be able to make the cars cheaply enough, so that the same U.S.
>>>workers will buy them. I don't get how you can fix this, by having some
>>>other investor buy the company.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>>>news:F8mdnQADcf3JOknYnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d@comcast.c om...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Nope, probably won't happen. Neither GM nor Ford is in a financial
>>>
>>>position
>>>
>>>
>>>>to acquire Chrysler, even though it's a good deal right now.
>>>>
>>>>I'd guess if D-C sold off Chrysler, it might be purchased by a Chinese
>>>>manufacturer to get a boost in American market share. That will be a sad
>>>
>>>day
>>>
>>>
>>>>if it ever happens.
>>>>
>>>>"Coasty" <uscg_ret@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:B6GdnUTKTO0xq0nYnZ2dnUVZ_u2mnZ2d@comcast. com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>ABC this morning said GM is look into acquiring Chrysler and combining
>>>>>their design facilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>Coasty
>>>>>
>>>>>"Lee Ayrton" <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:Pine.NEB.4.64.0702141652560.2921@panix2. panix.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...kmg&refer=home
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Selected highlights:
>>>>>>
>>>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler AG may sell or seek partners for its unprofitable
>>>>>>Chrysler division, abandoning its vision of building a successful
>>>>>>carmaker that sold luxury Mercedes-Benz sedans as well as Dodge pickup
>>>>>>trucks.</q>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><q>``We want to ensure that the core of Daimler can be protected from a
>>>>>>possible financial downwards spiral at Chrysler,'</q>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><q> Renault and Nissan may be a possible partner for Chrysler, </q>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><q> Former Chief Executive Schrempp was heckled at most of the annual
>>>>>>meetings by investors who demanded he sell the division.</q>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><q> DaimlerChrysler is in talks with General Motors to sell Chrysler to
>>>>>>the world's largest carmaker, Manager Magazine reported, citing
>>>>>>unidentified company sources. The talks are at ``an early stage,'' it
>>>>>>said. </q>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New
>>>
>>>Jersey,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been
>>>
>>>underestimated."
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>

Re: D-C might become just D and C.
 

I too like the romantic notion that Jeep could be successfully spun off
and back to it's "go anywhere, do anything" roots but I don't see how they
could survive. High development costs against low sales volume are the
thing that killed marques like Packard, Checker, Studebaker and AMC.


On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:

> I agree, but they should also consider a smaller vehicle more like the
> original Jeep, a simple, basic, relatively inexpensive go anywhere little
> Jeep ... and ALL Jeeps should be able to do the Rubicon.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Nathan In Montana wrote:
>> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:45d3d301$0$4847$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> For Jeep to be a successful company all on it's own I think it would
>>> either need someone or a small group of people with very deep pockets.
>>
>> it is my belief that for jeep to ever be a successful, stand-alone company
>> they must do two things:
>>
>> 1- downsize
>> 2- return to their roots
>>
>> lets face it, jeep heritage is built on _one_ aspect alone. off-road
>> capability. when they water down their name by using it to sell
>> soft-roaders they also water down their heritage. it is my belief that if
>> they dumped their entire current lineup and sold only two vehicles:
>>
>> 1- TJ
>> 2- XJ
>>
>> they could sell enough to remain profitable. its this expansion into
>> yuppie-ville (commander, compass, patriot, liberty, etc.) that has gotten
>> them into trouble.
>>
>> .....since this will never happen and a parent company is inevitable, id
>> like to see ford acquire it. ford has more invested in the original jeep
>> heritage than the current day jeep. at least the ford motor company is the
>> same company it was back when they were building jeeps. jeep went from
>> willys to kaiser to amc to chrysler and now to who knows.
>>
>

--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.

Re: D-C might become just D and C.
 

I too like the romantic notion that Jeep could be successfully spun off
and back to it's "go anywhere, do anything" roots but I don't see how they
could survive. High development costs against low sales volume are the
thing that killed marques like Packard, Checker, Studebaker and AMC.


On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:

> I agree, but they should also consider a smaller vehicle more like the
> original Jeep, a simple, basic, relatively inexpensive go anywhere little
> Jeep ... and ALL Jeeps should be able to do the Rubicon.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Nathan In Montana wrote:
>> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:45d3d301$0$4847$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> For Jeep to be a successful company all on it's own I think it would
>>> either need someone or a small group of people with very deep pockets.
>>
>> it is my belief that for jeep to ever be a successful, stand-alone company
>> they must do two things:
>>
>> 1- downsize
>> 2- return to their roots
>>
>> lets face it, jeep heritage is built on _one_ aspect alone. off-road
>> capability. when they water down their name by using it to sell
>> soft-roaders they also water down their heritage. it is my belief that if
>> they dumped their entire current lineup and sold only two vehicles:
>>
>> 1- TJ
>> 2- XJ
>>
>> they could sell enough to remain profitable. its this expansion into
>> yuppie-ville (commander, compass, patriot, liberty, etc.) that has gotten
>> them into trouble.
>>
>> .....since this will never happen and a parent company is inevitable, id
>> like to see ford acquire it. ford has more invested in the original jeep
>> heritage than the current day jeep. at least the ford motor company is the
>> same company it was back when they were building jeeps. jeep went from
>> willys to kaiser to amc to chrysler and now to who knows.
>>
>

--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.

Re: D-C might become just D and C.
 

I too like the romantic notion that Jeep could be successfully spun off
and back to it's "go anywhere, do anything" roots but I don't see how they
could survive. High development costs against low sales volume are the
thing that killed marques like Packard, Checker, Studebaker and AMC.


On Fri, 16 Feb 2007, Jeffrey DeWitt wrote:

> I agree, but they should also consider a smaller vehicle more like the
> original Jeep, a simple, basic, relatively inexpensive go anywhere little
> Jeep ... and ALL Jeeps should be able to do the Rubicon.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Nathan In Montana wrote:
>> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:45d3d301$0$4847$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> For Jeep to be a successful company all on it's own I think it would
>>> either need someone or a small group of people with very deep pockets.
>>
>> it is my belief that for jeep to ever be a successful, stand-alone company
>> they must do two things:
>>
>> 1- downsize
>> 2- return to their roots
>>
>> lets face it, jeep heritage is built on _one_ aspect alone. off-road
>> capability. when they water down their name by using it to sell
>> soft-roaders they also water down their heritage. it is my belief that if
>> they dumped their entire current lineup and sold only two vehicles:
>>
>> 1- TJ
>> 2- XJ
>>
>> they could sell enough to remain profitable. its this expansion into
>> yuppie-ville (commander, compass, patriot, liberty, etc.) that has gotten
>> them into trouble.
>>
>> .....since this will never happen and a parent company is inevitable, id
>> like to see ford acquire it. ford has more invested in the original jeep
>> heritage than the current day jeep. at least the ford motor company is the
>> same company it was back when they were building jeeps. jeep went from
>> willys to kaiser to amc to chrysler and now to who knows.
>>
>

--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.

Re: D-C might become just D and C.
 

"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:45d53185$0$5730$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> That would REALLY suck, Damlier Chrysler is bad enough, if Toyota buys
> Jeep that will be it for me and Jeep.
>

> Ken Finney wrote:
< snip >
>>
>>
>> Toyota is the most likely buyer for Jeep.
>>
>

I'd never buy a DC Jeep, largely because of the way they did the "merger".
If Toyota did things differently, I'd very likely buy a T Jeep.