True.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_brakes

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:zu_Rf.36526$wl.12667@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> IIRC, they were invented for aircraft, and first deployed in cars in the
> RWD
> Mercedes.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44177A59.8E20A5C3@***.net...
>> There's one exception, the front wheel drive rice burner, the
>> reason antilock brake system wer invented for their paniced drivers.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> 4X4PLAY wrote:
>> >
>> > Man, I have to really agree with Mike...I know what he says is a
> fact...I
>> > live in a Valley in Nova Scotia where we get alot of snow and ice
> conditions
>> > to contend with and I know for sure when I'm in part time and hit the
> brakes
>> > on ice my open diff'd TJ will slide side ways every time...unlike my
> Grand
>> > Cherokee in Full time will follow a straight line everytime....
>> >
>> > The other thing is, it has to be the tires...after reading this and
> running
>> > it over and over in my mind and being out on the North Mountain snow
>> > wheeling several times since I have a hard time grasping the loss of
>> > traction and not using gearing to come down the hills as I do all the
>> > time...it really makes me think that it was all a tire problem...I run
>> > a
>> > good tire!
>> >
>> > Spdloader are you in an area that receives snow?? what type of Jeep do
> you
>> > drive??
>> >
>> > Jeff
>
>

 

True.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_brakes

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:zu_Rf.36526$wl.12667@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> IIRC, they were invented for aircraft, and first deployed in cars in the
> RWD
> Mercedes.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44177A59.8E20A5C3@***.net...
>> There's one exception, the front wheel drive rice burner, the
>> reason antilock brake system wer invented for their paniced drivers.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> 4X4PLAY wrote:
>> >
>> > Man, I have to really agree with Mike...I know what he says is a
> fact...I
>> > live in a Valley in Nova Scotia where we get alot of snow and ice
> conditions
>> > to contend with and I know for sure when I'm in part time and hit the
> brakes
>> > on ice my open diff'd TJ will slide side ways every time...unlike my
> Grand
>> > Cherokee in Full time will follow a straight line everytime....
>> >
>> > The other thing is, it has to be the tires...after reading this and
> running
>> > it over and over in my mind and being out on the North Mountain snow
>> > wheeling several times since I have a hard time grasping the loss of
>> > traction and not using gearing to come down the hills as I do all the
>> > time...it really makes me think that it was all a tire problem...I run
>> > a
>> > good tire!
>> >
>> > Spdloader are you in an area that receives snow?? what type of Jeep do
> you
>> > drive??
>> >
>> > Jeff
>
>

 

True.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_brakes

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:zu_Rf.36526$wl.12667@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> IIRC, they were invented for aircraft, and first deployed in cars in the
> RWD
> Mercedes.
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> news:44177A59.8E20A5C3@***.net...
>> There's one exception, the front wheel drive rice burner, the
>> reason antilock brake system wer invented for their paniced drivers.
>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>
>> 4X4PLAY wrote:
>> >
>> > Man, I have to really agree with Mike...I know what he says is a
> fact...I
>> > live in a Valley in Nova Scotia where we get alot of snow and ice
> conditions
>> > to contend with and I know for sure when I'm in part time and hit the
> brakes
>> > on ice my open diff'd TJ will slide side ways every time...unlike my
> Grand
>> > Cherokee in Full time will follow a straight line everytime....
>> >
>> > The other thing is, it has to be the tires...after reading this and
> running
>> > it over and over in my mind and being out on the North Mountain snow
>> > wheeling several times since I have a hard time grasping the loss of
>> > traction and not using gearing to come down the hills as I do all the
>> > time...it really makes me think that it was all a tire problem...I run
>> > a
>> > good tire!
>> >
>> > Spdloader are you in an area that receives snow?? what type of Jeep do
> you
>> > drive??
>> >
>> > Jeff
>
>

 

Yep, rear-wheel drive is much better for high-performance cars, when the
drive wheels and the steering wheels are separated. But to say they "went
back" implies that they don't make FWD cars anymore.

American engineered for Americans rear wheel drive? Wonder how many Mercedes
and BMW's are front wheel drive...

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44187696.A5DC242E@***.net...
> Yup, since the '65 Eldorado and Coronado, Fortunately, as I said,
> Cadillac and other GMs have gone back to American engineered for
> Americans rear wheel drive:
> http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/312110.html Even the
> Japanese have gone back to rear wheel drive in their high end ricers
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Every GM passenger car marque including Cadillac has a front wheel drive
>> car.

 

Yep, rear-wheel drive is much better for high-performance cars, when the
drive wheels and the steering wheels are separated. But to say they "went
back" implies that they don't make FWD cars anymore.

American engineered for Americans rear wheel drive? Wonder how many Mercedes
and BMW's are front wheel drive...

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44187696.A5DC242E@***.net...
> Yup, since the '65 Eldorado and Coronado, Fortunately, as I said,
> Cadillac and other GMs have gone back to American engineered for
> Americans rear wheel drive:
> http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/312110.html Even the
> Japanese have gone back to rear wheel drive in their high end ricers
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Every GM passenger car marque including Cadillac has a front wheel drive
>> car.

 

Yep, rear-wheel drive is much better for high-performance cars, when the
drive wheels and the steering wheels are separated. But to say they "went
back" implies that they don't make FWD cars anymore.

American engineered for Americans rear wheel drive? Wonder how many Mercedes
and BMW's are front wheel drive...

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44187696.A5DC242E@***.net...
> Yup, since the '65 Eldorado and Coronado, Fortunately, as I said,
> Cadillac and other GMs have gone back to American engineered for
> Americans rear wheel drive:
> http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/312110.html Even the
> Japanese have gone back to rear wheel drive in their high end ricers
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Every GM passenger car marque including Cadillac has a front wheel drive
>> car.

 

Yep, rear-wheel drive is much better for high-performance cars, when the
drive wheels and the steering wheels are separated. But to say they "went
back" implies that they don't make FWD cars anymore.

American engineered for Americans rear wheel drive? Wonder how many Mercedes
and BMW's are front wheel drive...

"L.W. ("ßill") ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44187696.A5DC242E@***.net...
> Yup, since the '65 Eldorado and Coronado, Fortunately, as I said,
> Cadillac and other GMs have gone back to American engineered for
> Americans rear wheel drive:
> http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2...30/312110.html Even the
> Japanese have gone back to rear wheel drive in their high end ricers
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>
>> Every GM passenger car marque including Cadillac has a front wheel drive
>> car.

 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:441723DA.5F56F9F4@sympatico.ca...
:I would be interested to try that too. I have put on a lot of local off
: road runs to help show folks what their Jeep can and can't do in the
: snow but have never had a 'full time' vs 'part time' test.
:
: I am thinking you lose most of the engine braking effect with the full
: time, but don't know.
:
: Mike
:
: Earle Horton wrote:
: >
: > From the discussion here, it sounds as if "part time" is better for
going
: > uphill, and "full time" might be better for downhill. There is lots of
ice
: > and snow outside, after a monster Colorado spring blizzard, but I don't
have
: > a "full time" four wheel drive vehicle to try this theory out.
: >
: > Earle
: >
: > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: > news:4416FE23.3D05C5DE@sympatico.ca...
: > > When in 4x4 'part time' you have the dubious pleasure of locking up
all
: > > 4 wheels when the fronts lock.... Instant sideways slide or how to
find
: > > the 'low side' without lockers.... Hense the need to stay off the
: > > brakes.
: > >
snip

Tires are everything in snow and chains are everything on ice.

 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:441723DA.5F56F9F4@sympatico.ca...
:I would be interested to try that too. I have put on a lot of local off
: road runs to help show folks what their Jeep can and can't do in the
: snow but have never had a 'full time' vs 'part time' test.
:
: I am thinking you lose most of the engine braking effect with the full
: time, but don't know.
:
: Mike
:
: Earle Horton wrote:
: >
: > From the discussion here, it sounds as if "part time" is better for
going
: > uphill, and "full time" might be better for downhill. There is lots of
ice
: > and snow outside, after a monster Colorado spring blizzard, but I don't
have
: > a "full time" four wheel drive vehicle to try this theory out.
: >
: > Earle
: >
: > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: > news:4416FE23.3D05C5DE@sympatico.ca...
: > > When in 4x4 'part time' you have the dubious pleasure of locking up
all
: > > 4 wheels when the fronts lock.... Instant sideways slide or how to
find
: > > the 'low side' without lockers.... Hense the need to stay off the
: > > brakes.
: > >
snip

Tires are everything in snow and chains are everything on ice.

 

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:441723DA.5F56F9F4@sympatico.ca...
:I would be interested to try that too. I have put on a lot of local off
: road runs to help show folks what their Jeep can and can't do in the
: snow but have never had a 'full time' vs 'part time' test.
:
: I am thinking you lose most of the engine braking effect with the full
: time, but don't know.
:
: Mike
:
: Earle Horton wrote:
: >
: > From the discussion here, it sounds as if "part time" is better for
going
: > uphill, and "full time" might be better for downhill. There is lots of
ice
: > and snow outside, after a monster Colorado spring blizzard, but I don't
have
: > a "full time" four wheel drive vehicle to try this theory out.
: >
: > Earle
: >
: > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
: > news:4416FE23.3D05C5DE@sympatico.ca...
: > > When in 4x4 'part time' you have the dubious pleasure of locking up
all
: > > 4 wheels when the fronts lock.... Instant sideways slide or how to
find
: > > the 'low side' without lockers.... Hense the need to stay off the
: > > brakes.
: > >
snip

Tires are everything in snow and chains are everything on ice.