Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
03-06-2004, 05:06 PM
#71
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
It's just that we don't like snitches.
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mic canic wrote:
>
> mike you are still missing the whole point of my original post!
> but you need to really read the fine print of the purchase contract/ warranty
> paper work when buying a new car. esp lease paper work regardless who makes it,
> they all say we the manufacture can and will void parts or all your warranty if
> necessary and once you sign the paper work you agreed to their terms of that
> contract. regardless of what the law states and that makes it legally binding and
> that's the point i was trying to make, that you can't seem to get !
> stupid ------- ------- do you get it now!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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mic canic wrote:
>
> mike you are still missing the whole point of my original post!
> but you need to really read the fine print of the purchase contract/ warranty
> paper work when buying a new car. esp lease paper work regardless who makes it,
> they all say we the manufacture can and will void parts or all your warranty if
> necessary and once you sign the paper work you agreed to their terms of that
> contract. regardless of what the law states and that makes it legally binding and
> that's the point i was trying to make, that you can't seem to get !
> stupid ------- ------- do you get it now!
03-06-2004, 05:06 PM
#72
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
It's just that we don't like snitches.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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mic canic wrote:
>
> mike you are still missing the whole point of my original post!
> but you need to really read the fine print of the purchase contract/ warranty
> paper work when buying a new car. esp lease paper work regardless who makes it,
> they all say we the manufacture can and will void parts or all your warranty if
> necessary and once you sign the paper work you agreed to their terms of that
> contract. regardless of what the law states and that makes it legally binding and
> that's the point i was trying to make, that you can't seem to get !
> stupid ------- ------- do you get it now!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
mic canic wrote:
>
> mike you are still missing the whole point of my original post!
> but you need to really read the fine print of the purchase contract/ warranty
> paper work when buying a new car. esp lease paper work regardless who makes it,
> they all say we the manufacture can and will void parts or all your warranty if
> necessary and once you sign the paper work you agreed to their terms of that
> contract. regardless of what the law states and that makes it legally binding and
> that's the point i was trying to make, that you can't seem to get !
> stupid ------- ------- do you get it now!
03-06-2004, 05:06 PM
#73
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
It's just that we don't like snitches.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
mic canic wrote:
>
> mike you are still missing the whole point of my original post!
> but you need to really read the fine print of the purchase contract/ warranty
> paper work when buying a new car. esp lease paper work regardless who makes it,
> they all say we the manufacture can and will void parts or all your warranty if
> necessary and once you sign the paper work you agreed to their terms of that
> contract. regardless of what the law states and that makes it legally binding and
> that's the point i was trying to make, that you can't seem to get !
> stupid ------- ------- do you get it now!
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
mic canic wrote:
>
> mike you are still missing the whole point of my original post!
> but you need to really read the fine print of the purchase contract/ warranty
> paper work when buying a new car. esp lease paper work regardless who makes it,
> they all say we the manufacture can and will void parts or all your warranty if
> necessary and once you sign the paper work you agreed to their terms of that
> contract. regardless of what the law states and that makes it legally binding and
> that's the point i was trying to make, that you can't seem to get !
> stupid ------- ------- do you get it now!
03-06-2004, 05:57 PM
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
In <404A4952.4D0102B4@cac.net> mic canic wrote:
> void parts or all your warranty if necessary and once you sign the
> paper work you agreed to their terms of that contract. regardless of
> what the law states and that makes it legally binding and that's the
You need to stick to turning wrenches and leave contract law to the
experts. Even a layman should know that any contract which is
contradicted by the law, is by its very nature, illegal. No court (in
this country, anyway) is going to enforce an illegal contract,
effectively rendering it null and void.
The reason you get away with your reprehensible behavior (so far), is
that it is not economically feasible for the average motorist to bring a
lawsuit against you. Unless they have a lawyer in the family it is
usually cheaper to just pay to fix their vehicle.
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> void parts or all your warranty if necessary and once you sign the
> paper work you agreed to their terms of that contract. regardless of
> what the law states and that makes it legally binding and that's the
You need to stick to turning wrenches and leave contract law to the
experts. Even a layman should know that any contract which is
contradicted by the law, is by its very nature, illegal. No court (in
this country, anyway) is going to enforce an illegal contract,
effectively rendering it null and void.
The reason you get away with your reprehensible behavior (so far), is
that it is not economically feasible for the average motorist to bring a
lawsuit against you. Unless they have a lawyer in the family it is
usually cheaper to just pay to fix their vehicle.
----------------------------------------------------
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03-06-2004, 05:57 PM
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
In <404A4952.4D0102B4@cac.net> mic canic wrote:
> void parts or all your warranty if necessary and once you sign the
> paper work you agreed to their terms of that contract. regardless of
> what the law states and that makes it legally binding and that's the
You need to stick to turning wrenches and leave contract law to the
experts. Even a layman should know that any contract which is
contradicted by the law, is by its very nature, illegal. No court (in
this country, anyway) is going to enforce an illegal contract,
effectively rendering it null and void.
The reason you get away with your reprehensible behavior (so far), is
that it is not economically feasible for the average motorist to bring a
lawsuit against you. Unless they have a lawyer in the family it is
usually cheaper to just pay to fix their vehicle.
----------------------------------------------------
Del (not a lawyer either) Rawlins
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> void parts or all your warranty if necessary and once you sign the
> paper work you agreed to their terms of that contract. regardless of
> what the law states and that makes it legally binding and that's the
You need to stick to turning wrenches and leave contract law to the
experts. Even a layman should know that any contract which is
contradicted by the law, is by its very nature, illegal. No court (in
this country, anyway) is going to enforce an illegal contract,
effectively rendering it null and void.
The reason you get away with your reprehensible behavior (so far), is
that it is not economically feasible for the average motorist to bring a
lawsuit against you. Unless they have a lawyer in the family it is
usually cheaper to just pay to fix their vehicle.
----------------------------------------------------
Del (not a lawyer either) Rawlins
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03-06-2004, 05:57 PM
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
In <404A4952.4D0102B4@cac.net> mic canic wrote:
> void parts or all your warranty if necessary and once you sign the
> paper work you agreed to their terms of that contract. regardless of
> what the law states and that makes it legally binding and that's the
You need to stick to turning wrenches and leave contract law to the
experts. Even a layman should know that any contract which is
contradicted by the law, is by its very nature, illegal. No court (in
this country, anyway) is going to enforce an illegal contract,
effectively rendering it null and void.
The reason you get away with your reprehensible behavior (so far), is
that it is not economically feasible for the average motorist to bring a
lawsuit against you. Unless they have a lawyer in the family it is
usually cheaper to just pay to fix their vehicle.
----------------------------------------------------
Del (not a lawyer either) Rawlins
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> void parts or all your warranty if necessary and once you sign the
> paper work you agreed to their terms of that contract. regardless of
> what the law states and that makes it legally binding and that's the
You need to stick to turning wrenches and leave contract law to the
experts. Even a layman should know that any contract which is
contradicted by the law, is by its very nature, illegal. No court (in
this country, anyway) is going to enforce an illegal contract,
effectively rendering it null and void.
The reason you get away with your reprehensible behavior (so far), is
that it is not economically feasible for the average motorist to bring a
lawsuit against you. Unless they have a lawyer in the family it is
usually cheaper to just pay to fix their vehicle.
----------------------------------------------------
Del (not a lawyer either) Rawlins
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03-06-2004, 06:08 PM
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:404A4952.4D0102B4@cac.net...
: mike you are still missing the whole point of my original post!
: but you need to really read the fine print of the purchase contract/
warranty
: paper work when buying a new car. esp lease paper work regardless who
makes it,
: they all say we the manufacture can and will void parts or all your
warranty if
: necessary and once you sign the paper work you agreed to their terms of
that
: contract. regardless of what the law states and that makes it legally
binding and
: that's the point i was trying to make, that you can't seem to get !
: stupid ------- ------- do you get it now!
:
This link says it all... http://tinyurl.com/2a8dh
-Brian
news:404A4952.4D0102B4@cac.net...
: mike you are still missing the whole point of my original post!
: but you need to really read the fine print of the purchase contract/
warranty
: paper work when buying a new car. esp lease paper work regardless who
makes it,
: they all say we the manufacture can and will void parts or all your
warranty if
: necessary and once you sign the paper work you agreed to their terms of
that
: contract. regardless of what the law states and that makes it legally
binding and
: that's the point i was trying to make, that you can't seem to get !
: stupid ------- ------- do you get it now!
:
This link says it all... http://tinyurl.com/2a8dh
-Brian
03-06-2004, 06:08 PM
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:404A4952.4D0102B4@cac.net...
: mike you are still missing the whole point of my original post!
: but you need to really read the fine print of the purchase contract/
warranty
: paper work when buying a new car. esp lease paper work regardless who
makes it,
: they all say we the manufacture can and will void parts or all your
warranty if
: necessary and once you sign the paper work you agreed to their terms of
that
: contract. regardless of what the law states and that makes it legally
binding and
: that's the point i was trying to make, that you can't seem to get !
: stupid ------- ------- do you get it now!
:
This link says it all... http://tinyurl.com/2a8dh
-Brian
news:404A4952.4D0102B4@cac.net...
: mike you are still missing the whole point of my original post!
: but you need to really read the fine print of the purchase contract/
warranty
: paper work when buying a new car. esp lease paper work regardless who
makes it,
: they all say we the manufacture can and will void parts or all your
warranty if
: necessary and once you sign the paper work you agreed to their terms of
that
: contract. regardless of what the law states and that makes it legally
binding and
: that's the point i was trying to make, that you can't seem to get !
: stupid ------- ------- do you get it now!
:
This link says it all... http://tinyurl.com/2a8dh
-Brian
03-06-2004, 06:08 PM
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
"mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
news:404A4952.4D0102B4@cac.net...
: mike you are still missing the whole point of my original post!
: but you need to really read the fine print of the purchase contract/
warranty
: paper work when buying a new car. esp lease paper work regardless who
makes it,
: they all say we the manufacture can and will void parts or all your
warranty if
: necessary and once you sign the paper work you agreed to their terms of
that
: contract. regardless of what the law states and that makes it legally
binding and
: that's the point i was trying to make, that you can't seem to get !
: stupid ------- ------- do you get it now!
:
This link says it all... http://tinyurl.com/2a8dh
-Brian
news:404A4952.4D0102B4@cac.net...
: mike you are still missing the whole point of my original post!
: but you need to really read the fine print of the purchase contract/
warranty
: paper work when buying a new car. esp lease paper work regardless who
makes it,
: they all say we the manufacture can and will void parts or all your
warranty if
: necessary and once you sign the paper work you agreed to their terms of
that
: contract. regardless of what the law states and that makes it legally
binding and
: that's the point i was trying to make, that you can't seem to get !
: stupid ------- ------- do you get it now!
:
This link says it all... http://tinyurl.com/2a8dh
-Brian
03-06-2004, 08:06 PM
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
Troll
cactuscowboy wrote:
> Dear "Snow",
>
> I work for a Jeep DEALERSHIP, in sales. Your referring to any Jeep dealer
> as a "stealership" is not funny or cute, it's offensive.
>
> What purpose is served by your slamming auto dealerships and building upon
> unfair, negative stereotypes? Are you the typical "ten percenter" who
> thinks that factory trained technicians should work for 6 bucks an hour
> while the car store operates on a non-profit basis? Sure sounds like it.
>
> Word of advice: park under the shadetree and do the work yourself.
>
> Best regards,
> Dave Rose
> Cactus Cowboy
> Big Wonderful Wyoming
> '49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
> '62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
> '98 XJ Sport
> O|||||||O
>
>
> "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:kkH1c.13373$JZ6.375709@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>
>>"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
>>news:404698fe_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
>>
>>>Make an appointment with the local Jeep dealer. Give them the $75 or so
>>>they want to diagnose it, and let them tell you what is actually wrong.
>
> I
>
>>>know a lot of people have a hard on for the dealers, but let's face it:
>>>these guys stare at 4.0 liter engines all day every day, they might just
>>>know something about them. Then when they tell you what is wrong, ask
>>
>>them
>>
>>>to explain how they came to that conclusion, so that you are clear, i.e.
>>
>>"we
>>
>>>measured hydrocarbons in your cooling system, indicating a bad head
>
> gasket
>
>>>or failed hard part."
>>
>>Only problem with some stealerships is that they will pass this vehicle
>
> off
>
>>to the "new guy", who many times is not all that experienced with the 4.0
>
> ,
>
>>yes he knows how to change the spark plugs, change the oil and stuff like
>>that. You need to talk to your local service manager and see if the
>
> stealer
>
>>has a dedicated "jeep guy". Stealership I used to go to had one of the
>
> best
>
>>around, he would also lend out his jeep if the situation dictated so he
>>could drive the customers jeep and pin point the problem. Too bad the new
>>service manager didn't realize what he had before he let the gent go.
>>
>>Snow...
>>
>>
>
>
>
cactuscowboy wrote:
> Dear "Snow",
>
> I work for a Jeep DEALERSHIP, in sales. Your referring to any Jeep dealer
> as a "stealership" is not funny or cute, it's offensive.
>
> What purpose is served by your slamming auto dealerships and building upon
> unfair, negative stereotypes? Are you the typical "ten percenter" who
> thinks that factory trained technicians should work for 6 bucks an hour
> while the car store operates on a non-profit basis? Sure sounds like it.
>
> Word of advice: park under the shadetree and do the work yourself.
>
> Best regards,
> Dave Rose
> Cactus Cowboy
> Big Wonderful Wyoming
> '49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
> '62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
> '98 XJ Sport
> O|||||||O
>
>
> "Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:kkH1c.13373$JZ6.375709@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>
>>"Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
>>news:404698fe_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
>>
>>>Make an appointment with the local Jeep dealer. Give them the $75 or so
>>>they want to diagnose it, and let them tell you what is actually wrong.
>
> I
>
>>>know a lot of people have a hard on for the dealers, but let's face it:
>>>these guys stare at 4.0 liter engines all day every day, they might just
>>>know something about them. Then when they tell you what is wrong, ask
>>
>>them
>>
>>>to explain how they came to that conclusion, so that you are clear, i.e.
>>
>>"we
>>
>>>measured hydrocarbons in your cooling system, indicating a bad head
>
> gasket
>
>>>or failed hard part."
>>
>>Only problem with some stealerships is that they will pass this vehicle
>
> off
>
>>to the "new guy", who many times is not all that experienced with the 4.0
>
> ,
>
>>yes he knows how to change the spark plugs, change the oil and stuff like
>>that. You need to talk to your local service manager and see if the
>
> stealer
>
>>has a dedicated "jeep guy". Stealership I used to go to had one of the
>
> best
>
>>around, he would also lend out his jeep if the situation dictated so he
>>could drive the customers jeep and pin point the problem. Too bad the new
>>service manager didn't realize what he had before he let the gent go.
>>
>>Snow...
>>
>>
>
>
>