Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
03-04-2004, 03:21 PM
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
He said he looked at it in the OP.. 'stops as soon as the engine stops'.
-Brian
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: Mike
-Brian
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03-04-2004, 03:26 PM
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
"Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
: Stealership I used to go to had one of the best
: around, he would also lend out his jeep if the situation dictated so he
: could drive the customers jeep and pin point the problem. Too bad the new
: service manager didn't realize what he had before he let the gent go.
:
: Snow...
:
They probably let him go after finding him at the Jeep Jamboree in a
customers vehicle!... "Good news is I found the ticking noise, the bad news
is I had to put it on it's side to 'recreate' the noise." LOL
-Brian
: Stealership I used to go to had one of the best
: around, he would also lend out his jeep if the situation dictated so he
: could drive the customers jeep and pin point the problem. Too bad the new
: service manager didn't realize what he had before he let the gent go.
:
: Snow...
:
They probably let him go after finding him at the Jeep Jamboree in a
customers vehicle!... "Good news is I found the ticking noise, the bad news
is I had to put it on it's side to 'recreate' the noise." LOL
-Brian
03-04-2004, 03:26 PM
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
"Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
: Stealership I used to go to had one of the best
: around, he would also lend out his jeep if the situation dictated so he
: could drive the customers jeep and pin point the problem. Too bad the new
: service manager didn't realize what he had before he let the gent go.
:
: Snow...
:
They probably let him go after finding him at the Jeep Jamboree in a
customers vehicle!... "Good news is I found the ticking noise, the bad news
is I had to put it on it's side to 'recreate' the noise." LOL
-Brian
: Stealership I used to go to had one of the best
: around, he would also lend out his jeep if the situation dictated so he
: could drive the customers jeep and pin point the problem. Too bad the new
: service manager didn't realize what he had before he let the gent go.
:
: Snow...
:
They probably let him go after finding him at the Jeep Jamboree in a
customers vehicle!... "Good news is I found the ticking noise, the bad news
is I had to put it on it's side to 'recreate' the noise." LOL
-Brian
03-04-2004, 03:26 PM
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
"Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
: Stealership I used to go to had one of the best
: around, he would also lend out his jeep if the situation dictated so he
: could drive the customers jeep and pin point the problem. Too bad the new
: service manager didn't realize what he had before he let the gent go.
:
: Snow...
:
They probably let him go after finding him at the Jeep Jamboree in a
customers vehicle!... "Good news is I found the ticking noise, the bad news
is I had to put it on it's side to 'recreate' the noise." LOL
-Brian
: Stealership I used to go to had one of the best
: around, he would also lend out his jeep if the situation dictated so he
: could drive the customers jeep and pin point the problem. Too bad the new
: service manager didn't realize what he had before he let the gent go.
:
: Snow...
:
They probably let him go after finding him at the Jeep Jamboree in a
customers vehicle!... "Good news is I found the ticking noise, the bad news
is I had to put it on it's side to 'recreate' the noise." LOL
-Brian
03-04-2004, 07:10 PM
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, DougW wrote:
> Coolant has to go somewhere.
>
> 1) crack in line to overflow bottle
> . Jeep uses a closed system, overflow goes into
> the coolant bottle and gets sucked back in as
> the engine cools. A leak here or a broken bottle
> will slowly drain coolant. There should be no air
I don't know what the 2000 model year coolant tanks look like, but I ran
into a slow coolant loss with my `89 Cherokee. It turned out to be a tiny
crack in the coolant bottle (mounted high on the firewall, passenger side)
that would send out a needle-thin jet of coolant when hot. It never got
big enough to form an actual puddle of coolant and I only found it when I
accidently passed my hand through the stream, but it was active enough to
drain the bottle over a week or two.
> Coolant has to go somewhere.
>
> 1) crack in line to overflow bottle
> . Jeep uses a closed system, overflow goes into
> the coolant bottle and gets sucked back in as
> the engine cools. A leak here or a broken bottle
> will slowly drain coolant. There should be no air
I don't know what the 2000 model year coolant tanks look like, but I ran
into a slow coolant loss with my `89 Cherokee. It turned out to be a tiny
crack in the coolant bottle (mounted high on the firewall, passenger side)
that would send out a needle-thin jet of coolant when hot. It never got
big enough to form an actual puddle of coolant and I only found it when I
accidently passed my hand through the stream, but it was active enough to
drain the bottle over a week or two.
03-04-2004, 07:10 PM
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, DougW wrote:
> Coolant has to go somewhere.
>
> 1) crack in line to overflow bottle
> . Jeep uses a closed system, overflow goes into
> the coolant bottle and gets sucked back in as
> the engine cools. A leak here or a broken bottle
> will slowly drain coolant. There should be no air
I don't know what the 2000 model year coolant tanks look like, but I ran
into a slow coolant loss with my `89 Cherokee. It turned out to be a tiny
crack in the coolant bottle (mounted high on the firewall, passenger side)
that would send out a needle-thin jet of coolant when hot. It never got
big enough to form an actual puddle of coolant and I only found it when I
accidently passed my hand through the stream, but it was active enough to
drain the bottle over a week or two.
> Coolant has to go somewhere.
>
> 1) crack in line to overflow bottle
> . Jeep uses a closed system, overflow goes into
> the coolant bottle and gets sucked back in as
> the engine cools. A leak here or a broken bottle
> will slowly drain coolant. There should be no air
I don't know what the 2000 model year coolant tanks look like, but I ran
into a slow coolant loss with my `89 Cherokee. It turned out to be a tiny
crack in the coolant bottle (mounted high on the firewall, passenger side)
that would send out a needle-thin jet of coolant when hot. It never got
big enough to form an actual puddle of coolant and I only found it when I
accidently passed my hand through the stream, but it was active enough to
drain the bottle over a week or two.
03-04-2004, 07:10 PM
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, DougW wrote:
> Coolant has to go somewhere.
>
> 1) crack in line to overflow bottle
> . Jeep uses a closed system, overflow goes into
> the coolant bottle and gets sucked back in as
> the engine cools. A leak here or a broken bottle
> will slowly drain coolant. There should be no air
I don't know what the 2000 model year coolant tanks look like, but I ran
into a slow coolant loss with my `89 Cherokee. It turned out to be a tiny
crack in the coolant bottle (mounted high on the firewall, passenger side)
that would send out a needle-thin jet of coolant when hot. It never got
big enough to form an actual puddle of coolant and I only found it when I
accidently passed my hand through the stream, but it was active enough to
drain the bottle over a week or two.
> Coolant has to go somewhere.
>
> 1) crack in line to overflow bottle
> . Jeep uses a closed system, overflow goes into
> the coolant bottle and gets sucked back in as
> the engine cools. A leak here or a broken bottle
> will slowly drain coolant. There should be no air
I don't know what the 2000 model year coolant tanks look like, but I ran
into a slow coolant loss with my `89 Cherokee. It turned out to be a tiny
crack in the coolant bottle (mounted high on the firewall, passenger side)
that would send out a needle-thin jet of coolant when hot. It never got
big enough to form an actual puddle of coolant and I only found it when I
accidently passed my hand through the stream, but it was active enough to
drain the bottle over a week or two.
03-05-2004, 09:15 PM
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
Dear "Snow",
I work for a Jeep DEALERSHIP, in sales. Your referring to any Jeep dealer
as a "stealership" is not funny or cute, it's offensive.
What purpose is served by your slamming auto dealerships and building upon
unfair, negative stereotypes? Are you the typical "ten percenter" who
thinks that factory trained technicians should work for 6 bucks an hour
while the car store operates on a non-profit basis? Sure sounds like it.
Word of advice: park under the shadetree and do the work yourself.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
news:kkH1c.13373$JZ6.375709@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:404698fe_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Make an appointment with the local Jeep dealer. Give them the $75 or so
> > they want to diagnose it, and let them tell you what is actually wrong.
I
> > know a lot of people have a hard on for the dealers, but let's face it:
> > these guys stare at 4.0 liter engines all day every day, they might just
> > know something about them. Then when they tell you what is wrong, ask
> them
> > to explain how they came to that conclusion, so that you are clear, i.e.
> "we
> > measured hydrocarbons in your cooling system, indicating a bad head
gasket
> > or failed hard part."
>
> Only problem with some stealerships is that they will pass this vehicle
off
> to the "new guy", who many times is not all that experienced with the 4.0
,
> yes he knows how to change the spark plugs, change the oil and stuff like
> that. You need to talk to your local service manager and see if the
stealer
> has a dedicated "jeep guy". Stealership I used to go to had one of the
best
> around, he would also lend out his jeep if the situation dictated so he
> could drive the customers jeep and pin point the problem. Too bad the new
> service manager didn't realize what he had before he let the gent go.
>
> Snow...
>
>
I work for a Jeep DEALERSHIP, in sales. Your referring to any Jeep dealer
as a "stealership" is not funny or cute, it's offensive.
What purpose is served by your slamming auto dealerships and building upon
unfair, negative stereotypes? Are you the typical "ten percenter" who
thinks that factory trained technicians should work for 6 bucks an hour
while the car store operates on a non-profit basis? Sure sounds like it.
Word of advice: park under the shadetree and do the work yourself.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
news:kkH1c.13373$JZ6.375709@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:404698fe_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Make an appointment with the local Jeep dealer. Give them the $75 or so
> > they want to diagnose it, and let them tell you what is actually wrong.
I
> > know a lot of people have a hard on for the dealers, but let's face it:
> > these guys stare at 4.0 liter engines all day every day, they might just
> > know something about them. Then when they tell you what is wrong, ask
> them
> > to explain how they came to that conclusion, so that you are clear, i.e.
> "we
> > measured hydrocarbons in your cooling system, indicating a bad head
gasket
> > or failed hard part."
>
> Only problem with some stealerships is that they will pass this vehicle
off
> to the "new guy", who many times is not all that experienced with the 4.0
,
> yes he knows how to change the spark plugs, change the oil and stuff like
> that. You need to talk to your local service manager and see if the
stealer
> has a dedicated "jeep guy". Stealership I used to go to had one of the
best
> around, he would also lend out his jeep if the situation dictated so he
> could drive the customers jeep and pin point the problem. Too bad the new
> service manager didn't realize what he had before he let the gent go.
>
> Snow...
>
>
03-05-2004, 09:15 PM
#39
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Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
Dear "Snow",
I work for a Jeep DEALERSHIP, in sales. Your referring to any Jeep dealer
as a "stealership" is not funny or cute, it's offensive.
What purpose is served by your slamming auto dealerships and building upon
unfair, negative stereotypes? Are you the typical "ten percenter" who
thinks that factory trained technicians should work for 6 bucks an hour
while the car store operates on a non-profit basis? Sure sounds like it.
Word of advice: park under the shadetree and do the work yourself.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
news:kkH1c.13373$JZ6.375709@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:404698fe_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Make an appointment with the local Jeep dealer. Give them the $75 or so
> > they want to diagnose it, and let them tell you what is actually wrong.
I
> > know a lot of people have a hard on for the dealers, but let's face it:
> > these guys stare at 4.0 liter engines all day every day, they might just
> > know something about them. Then when they tell you what is wrong, ask
> them
> > to explain how they came to that conclusion, so that you are clear, i.e.
> "we
> > measured hydrocarbons in your cooling system, indicating a bad head
gasket
> > or failed hard part."
>
> Only problem with some stealerships is that they will pass this vehicle
off
> to the "new guy", who many times is not all that experienced with the 4.0
,
> yes he knows how to change the spark plugs, change the oil and stuff like
> that. You need to talk to your local service manager and see if the
stealer
> has a dedicated "jeep guy". Stealership I used to go to had one of the
best
> around, he would also lend out his jeep if the situation dictated so he
> could drive the customers jeep and pin point the problem. Too bad the new
> service manager didn't realize what he had before he let the gent go.
>
> Snow...
>
>
I work for a Jeep DEALERSHIP, in sales. Your referring to any Jeep dealer
as a "stealership" is not funny or cute, it's offensive.
What purpose is served by your slamming auto dealerships and building upon
unfair, negative stereotypes? Are you the typical "ten percenter" who
thinks that factory trained technicians should work for 6 bucks an hour
while the car store operates on a non-profit basis? Sure sounds like it.
Word of advice: park under the shadetree and do the work yourself.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
news:kkH1c.13373$JZ6.375709@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:404698fe_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Make an appointment with the local Jeep dealer. Give them the $75 or so
> > they want to diagnose it, and let them tell you what is actually wrong.
I
> > know a lot of people have a hard on for the dealers, but let's face it:
> > these guys stare at 4.0 liter engines all day every day, they might just
> > know something about them. Then when they tell you what is wrong, ask
> them
> > to explain how they came to that conclusion, so that you are clear, i.e.
> "we
> > measured hydrocarbons in your cooling system, indicating a bad head
gasket
> > or failed hard part."
>
> Only problem with some stealerships is that they will pass this vehicle
off
> to the "new guy", who many times is not all that experienced with the 4.0
,
> yes he knows how to change the spark plugs, change the oil and stuff like
> that. You need to talk to your local service manager and see if the
stealer
> has a dedicated "jeep guy". Stealership I used to go to had one of the
best
> around, he would also lend out his jeep if the situation dictated so he
> could drive the customers jeep and pin point the problem. Too bad the new
> service manager didn't realize what he had before he let the gent go.
>
> Snow...
>
>
03-05-2004, 09:15 PM
#40
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Posts: n/a
Re: Cherokee Overheating - Replace Engine ?
Dear "Snow",
I work for a Jeep DEALERSHIP, in sales. Your referring to any Jeep dealer
as a "stealership" is not funny or cute, it's offensive.
What purpose is served by your slamming auto dealerships and building upon
unfair, negative stereotypes? Are you the typical "ten percenter" who
thinks that factory trained technicians should work for 6 bucks an hour
while the car store operates on a non-profit basis? Sure sounds like it.
Word of advice: park under the shadetree and do the work yourself.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
news:kkH1c.13373$JZ6.375709@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:404698fe_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Make an appointment with the local Jeep dealer. Give them the $75 or so
> > they want to diagnose it, and let them tell you what is actually wrong.
I
> > know a lot of people have a hard on for the dealers, but let's face it:
> > these guys stare at 4.0 liter engines all day every day, they might just
> > know something about them. Then when they tell you what is wrong, ask
> them
> > to explain how they came to that conclusion, so that you are clear, i.e.
> "we
> > measured hydrocarbons in your cooling system, indicating a bad head
gasket
> > or failed hard part."
>
> Only problem with some stealerships is that they will pass this vehicle
off
> to the "new guy", who many times is not all that experienced with the 4.0
,
> yes he knows how to change the spark plugs, change the oil and stuff like
> that. You need to talk to your local service manager and see if the
stealer
> has a dedicated "jeep guy". Stealership I used to go to had one of the
best
> around, he would also lend out his jeep if the situation dictated so he
> could drive the customers jeep and pin point the problem. Too bad the new
> service manager didn't realize what he had before he let the gent go.
>
> Snow...
>
>
I work for a Jeep DEALERSHIP, in sales. Your referring to any Jeep dealer
as a "stealership" is not funny or cute, it's offensive.
What purpose is served by your slamming auto dealerships and building upon
unfair, negative stereotypes? Are you the typical "ten percenter" who
thinks that factory trained technicians should work for 6 bucks an hour
while the car store operates on a non-profit basis? Sure sounds like it.
Word of advice: park under the shadetree and do the work yourself.
Best regards,
Dave Rose
Cactus Cowboy
Big Wonderful Wyoming
'49 ****** Pickup (parts truck)
'62 ****** Pickup 4WD 226
'98 XJ Sport
O|||||||O
"Snow" <snowball_2004@msn.com> wrote in message
news:kkH1c.13373$JZ6.375709@news20.bellglobal.com. ..
>
> "Jerry Newton" <figatmcttelecom.com> wrote in message
> news:404698fe_3@newspeer2.tds.net...
> > Make an appointment with the local Jeep dealer. Give them the $75 or so
> > they want to diagnose it, and let them tell you what is actually wrong.
I
> > know a lot of people have a hard on for the dealers, but let's face it:
> > these guys stare at 4.0 liter engines all day every day, they might just
> > know something about them. Then when they tell you what is wrong, ask
> them
> > to explain how they came to that conclusion, so that you are clear, i.e.
> "we
> > measured hydrocarbons in your cooling system, indicating a bad head
gasket
> > or failed hard part."
>
> Only problem with some stealerships is that they will pass this vehicle
off
> to the "new guy", who many times is not all that experienced with the 4.0
,
> yes he knows how to change the spark plugs, change the oil and stuff like
> that. You need to talk to your local service manager and see if the
stealer
> has a dedicated "jeep guy". Stealership I used to go to had one of the
best
> around, he would also lend out his jeep if the situation dictated so he
> could drive the customers jeep and pin point the problem. Too bad the new
> service manager didn't realize what he had before he let the gent go.
>
> Snow...
>
>