Candid Thoughts on GC Value
07-20-2006, 09:04 PM
#11
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Posts: n/a
Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
The doo-dads, gee-gaw, and bling bling in the Limiteds and Overlands are the
most common cause of expensive repairs.
The Limited's automatic temperature control system have a well known
tendency of developing the 'blend door' syndrome where you will get in the
vehicle one day and find yourself needing a $1000-$1200 worth of labor to
get the heat or A/C to work as the dash needs to be removed to replace $12
in parts. There may well be no warning before failure
The nv249 transfer case is also a point of weakness, especially in a vehicle
that hasn't had 'severe service' maintenance performed. Pay special
attention to ANY noise, stiffness, resistance, clunking when accelerating
and especially turning which would indicate failure is approaching. When it
fails you will be, literally, stuck wherever the failure occurs. The real
'fix' for this situation is to swap in a nv242 Selec-Trac transfer case.
The Laredo's heat/air system lacks the trouble prone components of the ATC.
There is a known problem in the resistor block that controls the fan speeds.
It is located underneath the glovebox and is easily replaced in your
driveway in a few minutes
If you want tow hooks they are available at the dealer parts department in
chrome or black for less than $100 for the front or, if you are handy, you
can install them yourself and save the labor charge The CD changer can also
be added at anytime, the changer controls are, most likely, already in your
factory radio.
Other differences.
Laredos have 16 inch wheels that offer a large amount of choice in highway
and off-road tires. The Limiteds have 17 inch wheels and their specific
size (235/65x17) is only made by a couple brands.
"D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote in message
news:73Vvg.1760$D%4.711@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Hi All,
> I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
> I'm comparing for purchase.
>
> Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
> and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> airbags,
> 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come down
> some from that.
>
> Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> make
> it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> $15,200
>
> V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> trim
> on a Laredo.
> Any candid thoughts?
> I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> behind
> that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> Thanks.
> D
>
>
>
>
most common cause of expensive repairs.
The Limited's automatic temperature control system have a well known
tendency of developing the 'blend door' syndrome where you will get in the
vehicle one day and find yourself needing a $1000-$1200 worth of labor to
get the heat or A/C to work as the dash needs to be removed to replace $12
in parts. There may well be no warning before failure
The nv249 transfer case is also a point of weakness, especially in a vehicle
that hasn't had 'severe service' maintenance performed. Pay special
attention to ANY noise, stiffness, resistance, clunking when accelerating
and especially turning which would indicate failure is approaching. When it
fails you will be, literally, stuck wherever the failure occurs. The real
'fix' for this situation is to swap in a nv242 Selec-Trac transfer case.
The Laredo's heat/air system lacks the trouble prone components of the ATC.
There is a known problem in the resistor block that controls the fan speeds.
It is located underneath the glovebox and is easily replaced in your
driveway in a few minutes
If you want tow hooks they are available at the dealer parts department in
chrome or black for less than $100 for the front or, if you are handy, you
can install them yourself and save the labor charge The CD changer can also
be added at anytime, the changer controls are, most likely, already in your
factory radio.
Other differences.
Laredos have 16 inch wheels that offer a large amount of choice in highway
and off-road tires. The Limiteds have 17 inch wheels and their specific
size (235/65x17) is only made by a couple brands.
"D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote in message
news:73Vvg.1760$D%4.711@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Hi All,
> I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
> I'm comparing for purchase.
>
> Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
> and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> airbags,
> 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come down
> some from that.
>
> Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> make
> it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> $15,200
>
> V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> trim
> on a Laredo.
> Any candid thoughts?
> I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> behind
> that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> Thanks.
> D
>
>
>
>
07-20-2006, 09:04 PM
#12
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
The doo-dads, gee-gaw, and bling bling in the Limiteds and Overlands are the
most common cause of expensive repairs.
The Limited's automatic temperature control system have a well known
tendency of developing the 'blend door' syndrome where you will get in the
vehicle one day and find yourself needing a $1000-$1200 worth of labor to
get the heat or A/C to work as the dash needs to be removed to replace $12
in parts. There may well be no warning before failure
The nv249 transfer case is also a point of weakness, especially in a vehicle
that hasn't had 'severe service' maintenance performed. Pay special
attention to ANY noise, stiffness, resistance, clunking when accelerating
and especially turning which would indicate failure is approaching. When it
fails you will be, literally, stuck wherever the failure occurs. The real
'fix' for this situation is to swap in a nv242 Selec-Trac transfer case.
The Laredo's heat/air system lacks the trouble prone components of the ATC.
There is a known problem in the resistor block that controls the fan speeds.
It is located underneath the glovebox and is easily replaced in your
driveway in a few minutes
If you want tow hooks they are available at the dealer parts department in
chrome or black for less than $100 for the front or, if you are handy, you
can install them yourself and save the labor charge The CD changer can also
be added at anytime, the changer controls are, most likely, already in your
factory radio.
Other differences.
Laredos have 16 inch wheels that offer a large amount of choice in highway
and off-road tires. The Limiteds have 17 inch wheels and their specific
size (235/65x17) is only made by a couple brands.
"D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote in message
news:73Vvg.1760$D%4.711@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Hi All,
> I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
> I'm comparing for purchase.
>
> Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
> and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> airbags,
> 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come down
> some from that.
>
> Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> make
> it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> $15,200
>
> V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> trim
> on a Laredo.
> Any candid thoughts?
> I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> behind
> that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> Thanks.
> D
>
>
>
>
most common cause of expensive repairs.
The Limited's automatic temperature control system have a well known
tendency of developing the 'blend door' syndrome where you will get in the
vehicle one day and find yourself needing a $1000-$1200 worth of labor to
get the heat or A/C to work as the dash needs to be removed to replace $12
in parts. There may well be no warning before failure
The nv249 transfer case is also a point of weakness, especially in a vehicle
that hasn't had 'severe service' maintenance performed. Pay special
attention to ANY noise, stiffness, resistance, clunking when accelerating
and especially turning which would indicate failure is approaching. When it
fails you will be, literally, stuck wherever the failure occurs. The real
'fix' for this situation is to swap in a nv242 Selec-Trac transfer case.
The Laredo's heat/air system lacks the trouble prone components of the ATC.
There is a known problem in the resistor block that controls the fan speeds.
It is located underneath the glovebox and is easily replaced in your
driveway in a few minutes
If you want tow hooks they are available at the dealer parts department in
chrome or black for less than $100 for the front or, if you are handy, you
can install them yourself and save the labor charge The CD changer can also
be added at anytime, the changer controls are, most likely, already in your
factory radio.
Other differences.
Laredos have 16 inch wheels that offer a large amount of choice in highway
and off-road tires. The Limiteds have 17 inch wheels and their specific
size (235/65x17) is only made by a couple brands.
"D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote in message
news:73Vvg.1760$D%4.711@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Hi All,
> I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
> I'm comparing for purchase.
>
> Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
> and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> airbags,
> 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come down
> some from that.
>
> Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> make
> it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> $15,200
>
> V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> trim
> on a Laredo.
> Any candid thoughts?
> I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> behind
> that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> Thanks.
> D
>
>
>
>
07-20-2006, 09:04 PM
#13
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
The doo-dads, gee-gaw, and bling bling in the Limiteds and Overlands are the
most common cause of expensive repairs.
The Limited's automatic temperature control system have a well known
tendency of developing the 'blend door' syndrome where you will get in the
vehicle one day and find yourself needing a $1000-$1200 worth of labor to
get the heat or A/C to work as the dash needs to be removed to replace $12
in parts. There may well be no warning before failure
The nv249 transfer case is also a point of weakness, especially in a vehicle
that hasn't had 'severe service' maintenance performed. Pay special
attention to ANY noise, stiffness, resistance, clunking when accelerating
and especially turning which would indicate failure is approaching. When it
fails you will be, literally, stuck wherever the failure occurs. The real
'fix' for this situation is to swap in a nv242 Selec-Trac transfer case.
The Laredo's heat/air system lacks the trouble prone components of the ATC.
There is a known problem in the resistor block that controls the fan speeds.
It is located underneath the glovebox and is easily replaced in your
driveway in a few minutes
If you want tow hooks they are available at the dealer parts department in
chrome or black for less than $100 for the front or, if you are handy, you
can install them yourself and save the labor charge The CD changer can also
be added at anytime, the changer controls are, most likely, already in your
factory radio.
Other differences.
Laredos have 16 inch wheels that offer a large amount of choice in highway
and off-road tires. The Limiteds have 17 inch wheels and their specific
size (235/65x17) is only made by a couple brands.
"D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote in message
news:73Vvg.1760$D%4.711@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Hi All,
> I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
> I'm comparing for purchase.
>
> Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
> and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> airbags,
> 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come down
> some from that.
>
> Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> make
> it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> $15,200
>
> V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> trim
> on a Laredo.
> Any candid thoughts?
> I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> behind
> that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> Thanks.
> D
>
>
>
>
most common cause of expensive repairs.
The Limited's automatic temperature control system have a well known
tendency of developing the 'blend door' syndrome where you will get in the
vehicle one day and find yourself needing a $1000-$1200 worth of labor to
get the heat or A/C to work as the dash needs to be removed to replace $12
in parts. There may well be no warning before failure
The nv249 transfer case is also a point of weakness, especially in a vehicle
that hasn't had 'severe service' maintenance performed. Pay special
attention to ANY noise, stiffness, resistance, clunking when accelerating
and especially turning which would indicate failure is approaching. When it
fails you will be, literally, stuck wherever the failure occurs. The real
'fix' for this situation is to swap in a nv242 Selec-Trac transfer case.
The Laredo's heat/air system lacks the trouble prone components of the ATC.
There is a known problem in the resistor block that controls the fan speeds.
It is located underneath the glovebox and is easily replaced in your
driveway in a few minutes
If you want tow hooks they are available at the dealer parts department in
chrome or black for less than $100 for the front or, if you are handy, you
can install them yourself and save the labor charge The CD changer can also
be added at anytime, the changer controls are, most likely, already in your
factory radio.
Other differences.
Laredos have 16 inch wheels that offer a large amount of choice in highway
and off-road tires. The Limiteds have 17 inch wheels and their specific
size (235/65x17) is only made by a couple brands.
"D" <dpfer@r.com> wrote in message
news:73Vvg.1760$D%4.711@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Hi All,
> I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
> I'm comparing for purchase.
>
> Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
> and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> airbags,
> 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come down
> some from that.
>
> Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> make
> it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> $15,200
>
> V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> trim
> on a Laredo.
> Any candid thoughts?
> I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> behind
> that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> Thanks.
> D
>
>
>
>
07-20-2006, 09:44 PM
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
Good thoughts Bob. The amenites are nice and I like the side airbag curtain
idea. I did a oil pump at about 90K on my 93 ZJ inline 6. Makes me a little
gun shy, but I would be able to afford the extended warranty with the lower
price.
Oh, decisions, decisions.
Thank you so much.
"bobmct" <r.mariottiX@fdcx.netX> wrote in message
news:R9Vvg.7$5v3.542@news.ntplx.net...
> D wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two
vehicles
> > I'm comparing for purchase.
> >
> > Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very
clean
> > and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> > Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> > dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> > airbags, 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will
> > come down some from that.
> >
> > Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> > clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> > make it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow
hooks
> > though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> > passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> > $15,200
> >
> > V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> > V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> > trim on a Laredo.
> > Any candid thoughts?
> > I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> > behind that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> > Thanks.
> > D
> FWIW: Mostly "Personal Choice".
>
> Myself, I'd go for the Limited even with its higher mileage. I like the
Ltd
> amenities and the full-time 4WD.
>
> One of my drives is a 96 JGC Ltd with 175K+ on it and it still looks and
> runs absolutely great (except for the FM radio).
>
> On the other hand, the lower mileage Laredo is hardly broken in and
perhaps
> underutilized so things "might" break sooner than later.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Bob
idea. I did a oil pump at about 90K on my 93 ZJ inline 6. Makes me a little
gun shy, but I would be able to afford the extended warranty with the lower
price.
Oh, decisions, decisions.
Thank you so much.
"bobmct" <r.mariottiX@fdcx.netX> wrote in message
news:R9Vvg.7$5v3.542@news.ntplx.net...
> D wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two
vehicles
> > I'm comparing for purchase.
> >
> > Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very
clean
> > and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> > Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> > dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> > airbags, 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will
> > come down some from that.
> >
> > Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> > clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> > make it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow
hooks
> > though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> > passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> > $15,200
> >
> > V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> > V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> > trim on a Laredo.
> > Any candid thoughts?
> > I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> > behind that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> > Thanks.
> > D
> FWIW: Mostly "Personal Choice".
>
> Myself, I'd go for the Limited even with its higher mileage. I like the
Ltd
> amenities and the full-time 4WD.
>
> One of my drives is a 96 JGC Ltd with 175K+ on it and it still looks and
> runs absolutely great (except for the FM radio).
>
> On the other hand, the lower mileage Laredo is hardly broken in and
perhaps
> underutilized so things "might" break sooner than later.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Bob
07-20-2006, 09:44 PM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
Good thoughts Bob. The amenites are nice and I like the side airbag curtain
idea. I did a oil pump at about 90K on my 93 ZJ inline 6. Makes me a little
gun shy, but I would be able to afford the extended warranty with the lower
price.
Oh, decisions, decisions.
Thank you so much.
"bobmct" <r.mariottiX@fdcx.netX> wrote in message
news:R9Vvg.7$5v3.542@news.ntplx.net...
> D wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two
vehicles
> > I'm comparing for purchase.
> >
> > Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very
clean
> > and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> > Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> > dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> > airbags, 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will
> > come down some from that.
> >
> > Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> > clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> > make it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow
hooks
> > though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> > passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> > $15,200
> >
> > V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> > V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> > trim on a Laredo.
> > Any candid thoughts?
> > I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> > behind that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> > Thanks.
> > D
> FWIW: Mostly "Personal Choice".
>
> Myself, I'd go for the Limited even with its higher mileage. I like the
Ltd
> amenities and the full-time 4WD.
>
> One of my drives is a 96 JGC Ltd with 175K+ on it and it still looks and
> runs absolutely great (except for the FM radio).
>
> On the other hand, the lower mileage Laredo is hardly broken in and
perhaps
> underutilized so things "might" break sooner than later.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Bob
idea. I did a oil pump at about 90K on my 93 ZJ inline 6. Makes me a little
gun shy, but I would be able to afford the extended warranty with the lower
price.
Oh, decisions, decisions.
Thank you so much.
"bobmct" <r.mariottiX@fdcx.netX> wrote in message
news:R9Vvg.7$5v3.542@news.ntplx.net...
> D wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two
vehicles
> > I'm comparing for purchase.
> >
> > Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very
clean
> > and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> > Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> > dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> > airbags, 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will
> > come down some from that.
> >
> > Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> > clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> > make it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow
hooks
> > though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> > passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> > $15,200
> >
> > V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> > V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> > trim on a Laredo.
> > Any candid thoughts?
> > I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> > behind that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> > Thanks.
> > D
> FWIW: Mostly "Personal Choice".
>
> Myself, I'd go for the Limited even with its higher mileage. I like the
Ltd
> amenities and the full-time 4WD.
>
> One of my drives is a 96 JGC Ltd with 175K+ on it and it still looks and
> runs absolutely great (except for the FM radio).
>
> On the other hand, the lower mileage Laredo is hardly broken in and
perhaps
> underutilized so things "might" break sooner than later.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Bob
07-20-2006, 09:44 PM
#16
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Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
Good thoughts Bob. The amenites are nice and I like the side airbag curtain
idea. I did a oil pump at about 90K on my 93 ZJ inline 6. Makes me a little
gun shy, but I would be able to afford the extended warranty with the lower
price.
Oh, decisions, decisions.
Thank you so much.
"bobmct" <r.mariottiX@fdcx.netX> wrote in message
news:R9Vvg.7$5v3.542@news.ntplx.net...
> D wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two
vehicles
> > I'm comparing for purchase.
> >
> > Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very
clean
> > and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> > Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> > dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> > airbags, 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will
> > come down some from that.
> >
> > Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> > clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> > make it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow
hooks
> > though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> > passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> > $15,200
> >
> > V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> > V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> > trim on a Laredo.
> > Any candid thoughts?
> > I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> > behind that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> > Thanks.
> > D
> FWIW: Mostly "Personal Choice".
>
> Myself, I'd go for the Limited even with its higher mileage. I like the
Ltd
> amenities and the full-time 4WD.
>
> One of my drives is a 96 JGC Ltd with 175K+ on it and it still looks and
> runs absolutely great (except for the FM radio).
>
> On the other hand, the lower mileage Laredo is hardly broken in and
perhaps
> underutilized so things "might" break sooner than later.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Bob
idea. I did a oil pump at about 90K on my 93 ZJ inline 6. Makes me a little
gun shy, but I would be able to afford the extended warranty with the lower
price.
Oh, decisions, decisions.
Thank you so much.
"bobmct" <r.mariottiX@fdcx.netX> wrote in message
news:R9Vvg.7$5v3.542@news.ntplx.net...
> D wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two
vehicles
> > I'm comparing for purchase.
> >
> > Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very
clean
> > and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> > Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> > dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> > airbags, 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will
> > come down some from that.
> >
> > Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> > clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> > make it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow
hooks
> > though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> > passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> > $15,200
> >
> > V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> > V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> > trim on a Laredo.
> > Any candid thoughts?
> > I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> > behind that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> > Thanks.
> > D
> FWIW: Mostly "Personal Choice".
>
> Myself, I'd go for the Limited even with its higher mileage. I like the
Ltd
> amenities and the full-time 4WD.
>
> One of my drives is a 96 JGC Ltd with 175K+ on it and it still looks and
> runs absolutely great (except for the FM radio).
>
> On the other hand, the lower mileage Laredo is hardly broken in and
perhaps
> underutilized so things "might" break sooner than later.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Bob
07-20-2006, 09:44 PM
#17
Guest
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Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
Good thoughts Bob. The amenites are nice and I like the side airbag curtain
idea. I did a oil pump at about 90K on my 93 ZJ inline 6. Makes me a little
gun shy, but I would be able to afford the extended warranty with the lower
price.
Oh, decisions, decisions.
Thank you so much.
"bobmct" <r.mariottiX@fdcx.netX> wrote in message
news:R9Vvg.7$5v3.542@news.ntplx.net...
> D wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two
vehicles
> > I'm comparing for purchase.
> >
> > Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very
clean
> > and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> > Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> > dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> > airbags, 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will
> > come down some from that.
> >
> > Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> > clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> > make it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow
hooks
> > though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> > passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> > $15,200
> >
> > V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> > V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> > trim on a Laredo.
> > Any candid thoughts?
> > I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> > behind that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> > Thanks.
> > D
> FWIW: Mostly "Personal Choice".
>
> Myself, I'd go for the Limited even with its higher mileage. I like the
Ltd
> amenities and the full-time 4WD.
>
> One of my drives is a 96 JGC Ltd with 175K+ on it and it still looks and
> runs absolutely great (except for the FM radio).
>
> On the other hand, the lower mileage Laredo is hardly broken in and
perhaps
> underutilized so things "might" break sooner than later.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Bob
idea. I did a oil pump at about 90K on my 93 ZJ inline 6. Makes me a little
gun shy, but I would be able to afford the extended warranty with the lower
price.
Oh, decisions, decisions.
Thank you so much.
"bobmct" <r.mariottiX@fdcx.netX> wrote in message
news:R9Vvg.7$5v3.542@news.ntplx.net...
> D wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two
vehicles
> > I'm comparing for purchase.
> >
> > Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very
clean
> > and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> > Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> > dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> > airbags, 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will
> > come down some from that.
> >
> > Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> > clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> > make it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow
hooks
> > though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> > passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> > $15,200
> >
> > V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> > V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> > trim on a Laredo.
> > Any candid thoughts?
> > I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> > behind that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> > Thanks.
> > D
> FWIW: Mostly "Personal Choice".
>
> Myself, I'd go for the Limited even with its higher mileage. I like the
Ltd
> amenities and the full-time 4WD.
>
> One of my drives is a 96 JGC Ltd with 175K+ on it and it still looks and
> runs absolutely great (except for the FM radio).
>
> On the other hand, the lower mileage Laredo is hardly broken in and
perhaps
> underutilized so things "might" break sooner than later.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Bob
07-20-2006, 09:47 PM
#18
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Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
I should have mentioned it, but both do have the Carfax report. I don't
wholly rely on Carfax entirely because of backyard fixes and the like, but
it is a good starting point for Louisiana cars. Unless somebody happened to
be down there on vacation. Nothing is certain in life is it? Heh.
Thanks Bill. I was waiting for you input especially. Doug are you around on
this too?
D
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44C01FDA.4C615F09@***.net...
> I think: http://www.carfax.com/ is worth the money, specially after
> all the flooding.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two
vehicles
> > I'm comparing for purchase.
> >
> > Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very
clean
> > and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> > Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> > dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
airbags,
> > 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come
down
> > some from that.
> >
> > Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> > clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
make
> > it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> > though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> > passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> > $15,200
> >
> > V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> > V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
trim
> > on a Laredo.
> > Any candid thoughts?
> > I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
behind
> > that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> > Thanks.
> > D
wholly rely on Carfax entirely because of backyard fixes and the like, but
it is a good starting point for Louisiana cars. Unless somebody happened to
be down there on vacation. Nothing is certain in life is it? Heh.
Thanks Bill. I was waiting for you input especially. Doug are you around on
this too?
D
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44C01FDA.4C615F09@***.net...
> I think: http://www.carfax.com/ is worth the money, specially after
> all the flooding.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two
vehicles
> > I'm comparing for purchase.
> >
> > Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very
clean
> > and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> > Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> > dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
airbags,
> > 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come
down
> > some from that.
> >
> > Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> > clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
make
> > it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> > though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> > passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> > $15,200
> >
> > V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> > V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
trim
> > on a Laredo.
> > Any candid thoughts?
> > I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
behind
> > that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> > Thanks.
> > D
07-20-2006, 09:47 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
I should have mentioned it, but both do have the Carfax report. I don't
wholly rely on Carfax entirely because of backyard fixes and the like, but
it is a good starting point for Louisiana cars. Unless somebody happened to
be down there on vacation. Nothing is certain in life is it? Heh.
Thanks Bill. I was waiting for you input especially. Doug are you around on
this too?
D
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44C01FDA.4C615F09@***.net...
> I think: http://www.carfax.com/ is worth the money, specially after
> all the flooding.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two
vehicles
> > I'm comparing for purchase.
> >
> > Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very
clean
> > and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> > Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> > dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
airbags,
> > 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come
down
> > some from that.
> >
> > Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> > clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
make
> > it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> > though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> > passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> > $15,200
> >
> > V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> > V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
trim
> > on a Laredo.
> > Any candid thoughts?
> > I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
behind
> > that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> > Thanks.
> > D
wholly rely on Carfax entirely because of backyard fixes and the like, but
it is a good starting point for Louisiana cars. Unless somebody happened to
be down there on vacation. Nothing is certain in life is it? Heh.
Thanks Bill. I was waiting for you input especially. Doug are you around on
this too?
D
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44C01FDA.4C615F09@***.net...
> I think: http://www.carfax.com/ is worth the money, specially after
> all the flooding.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two
vehicles
> > I'm comparing for purchase.
> >
> > Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very
clean
> > and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> > Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> > dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
airbags,
> > 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come
down
> > some from that.
> >
> > Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> > clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
make
> > it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> > though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> > passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> > $15,200
> >
> > V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> > V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
trim
> > on a Laredo.
> > Any candid thoughts?
> > I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
behind
> > that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> > Thanks.
> > D
07-20-2006, 09:47 PM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
I should have mentioned it, but both do have the Carfax report. I don't
wholly rely on Carfax entirely because of backyard fixes and the like, but
it is a good starting point for Louisiana cars. Unless somebody happened to
be down there on vacation. Nothing is certain in life is it? Heh.
Thanks Bill. I was waiting for you input especially. Doug are you around on
this too?
D
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44C01FDA.4C615F09@***.net...
> I think: http://www.carfax.com/ is worth the money, specially after
> all the flooding.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two
vehicles
> > I'm comparing for purchase.
> >
> > Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very
clean
> > and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> > Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> > dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
airbags,
> > 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come
down
> > some from that.
> >
> > Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> > clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
make
> > it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> > though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> > passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> > $15,200
> >
> > V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> > V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
trim
> > on a Laredo.
> > Any candid thoughts?
> > I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
behind
> > that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> > Thanks.
> > D
wholly rely on Carfax entirely because of backyard fixes and the like, but
it is a good starting point for Louisiana cars. Unless somebody happened to
be down there on vacation. Nothing is certain in life is it? Heh.
Thanks Bill. I was waiting for you input especially. Doug are you around on
this too?
D
"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:44C01FDA.4C615F09@***.net...
> I think: http://www.carfax.com/ is worth the money, specially after
> all the flooding.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two
vehicles
> > I'm comparing for purchase.
> >
> > Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very
clean
> > and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> > Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> > dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
airbags,
> > 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come
down
> > some from that.
> >
> > Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> > clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
make
> > it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> > though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> > passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> > $15,200
> >
> > V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> > V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
trim
> > on a Laredo.
> > Any candid thoughts?
> > I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
behind
> > that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> > Thanks.
> > D