Candid Thoughts on GC Value
 

Hi All,
I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
I'm comparing for purchase.

Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact airbags,
90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come down
some from that.

Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options make
it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
$15,200

V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited trim
on a Laredo.
Any candid thoughts?
I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good behind
that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
Thanks.
D

Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
 

D wrote:

> Hi All,
> I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
> I'm comparing for purchase.
>
> Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
> and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> airbags, 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will
> come down some from that.
>
> Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> make it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> $15,200
>
> V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> trim on a Laredo.
> Any candid thoughts?
> I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> behind that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> Thanks.
> D
FWIW: Mostly "Personal Choice".

Myself, I'd go for the Limited even with its higher mileage. I like the Ltd
amenities and the full-time 4WD.

One of my drives is a 96 JGC Ltd with 175K+ on it and it still looks and
runs absolutely great (except for the FM radio).

On the other hand, the lower mileage Laredo is hardly broken in and perhaps
underutilized so things "might" break sooner than later.

Good luck.

Bob

Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
 

D wrote:

> Hi All,
> I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
> I'm comparing for purchase.
>
> Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
> and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> airbags, 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will
> come down some from that.
>
> Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> make it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> $15,200
>
> V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> trim on a Laredo.
> Any candid thoughts?
> I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> behind that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> Thanks.
> D
FWIW: Mostly "Personal Choice".

Myself, I'd go for the Limited even with its higher mileage. I like the Ltd
amenities and the full-time 4WD.

One of my drives is a 96 JGC Ltd with 175K+ on it and it still looks and
runs absolutely great (except for the FM radio).

On the other hand, the lower mileage Laredo is hardly broken in and perhaps
underutilized so things "might" break sooner than later.

Good luck.

Bob

Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
 

D wrote:

> Hi All,
> I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
> I'm comparing for purchase.
>
> Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
> and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> airbags, 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will
> come down some from that.
>
> Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> make it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> $15,200
>
> V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> trim on a Laredo.
> Any candid thoughts?
> I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> behind that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> Thanks.
> D
FWIW: Mostly "Personal Choice".

Myself, I'd go for the Limited even with its higher mileage. I like the Ltd
amenities and the full-time 4WD.

One of my drives is a 96 JGC Ltd with 175K+ on it and it still looks and
runs absolutely great (except for the FM radio).

On the other hand, the lower mileage Laredo is hardly broken in and perhaps
underutilized so things "might" break sooner than later.

Good luck.

Bob

Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
 

D wrote:

> Hi All,
> I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
> I'm comparing for purchase.
>
> Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
> and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> airbags, 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will
> come down some from that.
>
> Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> make it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> $15,200
>
> V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> trim on a Laredo.
> Any candid thoughts?
> I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> behind that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> Thanks.
> D
FWIW: Mostly "Personal Choice".

Myself, I'd go for the Limited even with its higher mileage. I like the Ltd
amenities and the full-time 4WD.

One of my drives is a 96 JGC Ltd with 175K+ on it and it still looks and
runs absolutely great (except for the FM radio).

On the other hand, the lower mileage Laredo is hardly broken in and perhaps
underutilized so things "might" break sooner than later.

Good luck.

Bob

Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
 

I think: http://www.carfax.com/ is worth the money, specially after
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D wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
> I'm comparing for purchase.
>
> Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
> and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact airbags,
> 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come down
> some from that.
>
> Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options make
> it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> $15,200
>
> V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited trim
> on a Laredo.
> Any candid thoughts?
> I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good behind
> that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> Thanks.
> D

Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
 

I think: http://www.carfax.com/ is worth the money, specially after
all the flooding.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

D wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
> I'm comparing for purchase.
>
> Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
> and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact airbags,
> 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come down
> some from that.
>
> Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options make
> it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> $15,200
>
> V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited trim
> on a Laredo.
> Any candid thoughts?
> I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good behind
> that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> Thanks.
> D

Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
 

I think: http://www.carfax.com/ is worth the money, specially after
all the flooding.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

D wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
> I'm comparing for purchase.
>
> Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
> and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact airbags,
> 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come down
> some from that.
>
> Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options make
> it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> $15,200
>
> V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited trim
> on a Laredo.
> Any candid thoughts?
> I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good behind
> that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> Thanks.
> D

Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
 

I think: http://www.carfax.com/ is worth the money, specially after
all the flooding.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

D wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
> I'm comparing for purchase.
>
> Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
> and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact airbags,
> 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come down
> some from that.
>
> Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options make
> it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> $15,200
>
> V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited trim
> on a Laredo.
> Any candid thoughts?
> I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good behind
> that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> Thanks.
> D

Re: Candid Thoughts on GC Value
 

The doo-dads, gee-gaw, and bling bling in the Limiteds and Overlands are the
most common cause of expensive repairs.

The Limited's automatic temperature control system have a well known
tendency of developing the 'blend door' syndrome where you will get in the
vehicle one day and find yourself needing a $1000-$1200 worth of labor to
get the heat or A/C to work as the dash needs to be removed to replace $12
in parts. There may well be no warning before failure

The nv249 transfer case is also a point of weakness, especially in a vehicle
that hasn't had 'severe service' maintenance performed. Pay special
attention to ANY noise, stiffness, resistance, clunking when accelerating
and especially turning which would indicate failure is approaching. When it
fails you will be, literally, stuck wherever the failure occurs. The real
'fix' for this situation is to swap in a nv242 Selec-Trac transfer case.

The Laredo's heat/air system lacks the trouble prone components of the ATC.
There is a known problem in the resistor block that controls the fan speeds.
It is located underneath the glovebox and is easily replaced in your
driveway in a few minutes

If you want tow hooks they are available at the dealer parts department in
chrome or black for less than $100 for the front or, if you are handy, you
can install them yourself and save the labor charge The CD changer can also
be added at anytime, the changer controls are, most likely, already in your
factory radio.

Other differences.

Laredos have 16 inch wheels that offer a large amount of choice in highway
and off-road tires. The Limiteds have 17 inch wheels and their specific
size (235/65x17) is only made by a couple brands.



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> Hi All,
> I hope you might indulge me with an exercise on the value of two vehicles
> I'm comparing for purchase.
>
> Vehicle 1 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Limited with 82,500 miles. Very clean
> and mechanically inspected. 4.7 Liter V-8 with the Quadra-Drive system.
> Other baubles, leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., tow hooks on front,
> dual temp controls, 10 CD changer and cassette player, side impact
> airbags,
> 90 day warranty. Car drives out very nice. Asking $13,999, will come down
> some from that.
>
> Vehicle 2 is a 2002 Grand Cherokee, Laredo with 37,950 miles. Also very
> clean but as-is. 4.7 Liter V-8 with a Selec-Trac system. Other options
> make
> it like a Limited. Leather, moon-roof, factory tow pkg., no tow hooks
> though, single temp control, single CD and cassette player, driver and
> passenger airbags, 30 day warranty. Drives out very nice. Lowest price,
> $15,200
>
> V-1 is cherry, obviously a highway car.
> V-1 seems like a mongrel with the V-8/Selec-Trac system and the Limited
> trim
> on a Laredo.
> Any candid thoughts?
> I'm particularly interested to know if the Selec-Trac system is good
> behind
> that V-8. I think it might save a bit on gas mileage maybe.
> Thanks.
> D
>
>
>
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