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Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Dave, you're making the dangerous assumption that the American civil legal
system works for the good of the people, it actually works for the good of the dollars. "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:1YqQg.22330$r61.12224@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk... > Well quite. I would have thought that a defence of "Californians knew > about > their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do > it. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com... >> I bet he's running for governor. >> >> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >> standards set by the state. >> >> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >> Jeff DeWitt > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
If they're so concerned about polution and energy use, shouldn't the
express and HOV lanes be reserved for Humvee's, Super Pickups, Ferrari's and other vehicles that get really poor gas mileage in bumper to bumper traffic? That would sure make it easier for the Guv'nor to get around in his Humvee ;-) In article <IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com>, JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com says... > I bet he's running for governor. > > Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. > > Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the > standards set by the state. > > If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. > > Jeff DeWitt > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > > Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? > > > > Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate > > is so high... > > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > > news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... > > > >>Dave Milne wrote: > >> > >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm > >>> > >>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel > >>>at the American legal system ! > >> > >>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. > >> > >> > >>-- > >>DougW > >> > > > > > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
If they're so concerned about polution and energy use, shouldn't the
express and HOV lanes be reserved for Humvee's, Super Pickups, Ferrari's and other vehicles that get really poor gas mileage in bumper to bumper traffic? That would sure make it easier for the Guv'nor to get around in his Humvee ;-) In article <IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com>, JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com says... > I bet he's running for governor. > > Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. > > Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the > standards set by the state. > > If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. > > Jeff DeWitt > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > > Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? > > > > Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate > > is so high... > > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > > news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... > > > >>Dave Milne wrote: > >> > >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm > >>> > >>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel > >>>at the American legal system ! > >> > >>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. > >> > >> > >>-- > >>DougW > >> > > > > > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
If they're so concerned about polution and energy use, shouldn't the
express and HOV lanes be reserved for Humvee's, Super Pickups, Ferrari's and other vehicles that get really poor gas mileage in bumper to bumper traffic? That would sure make it easier for the Guv'nor to get around in his Humvee ;-) In article <IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com>, JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com says... > I bet he's running for governor. > > Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. > > Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the > standards set by the state. > > If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. > > Jeff DeWitt > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > > Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? > > > > Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate > > is so high... > > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > > news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... > > > >>Dave Milne wrote: > >> > >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm > >>> > >>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel > >>>at the American legal system ! > >> > >>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. > >> > >> > >>-- > >>DougW > >> > > > > > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Maybe when he becomes Kommassar he will issue an edict that requires
everyone, except him, to walk or ride a bicycle. He will be using a government supplied Jeep Limo and all the folks who made illegal cash payoffs will be allowed solar powered cars. "Al J" <ajsmail@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:MPG.1f7c330d71de26279898b3@news.xnet.com... > If they're so concerned about polution and energy use, shouldn't the > express and HOV lanes be reserved for Humvee's, Super Pickups, Ferrari's > and other vehicles that get really poor gas mileage in bumper to bumper > traffic? That would sure make it easier for the Guv'nor to get around in > his Humvee ;-) > > In article <IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com>, JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com > says... >> I bet he's running for governor. >> >> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >> standards set by the state. >> >> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >> Jeff DeWitt >> >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> > Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >> > >> > Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder >> > rate >> > is so high... >> > >> > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >> > news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >> > >> >>Dave Milne wrote: >> >> >> >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >> >>> >> >>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >> >>>at the American legal system ! >> >> >> >>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >>DougW >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Maybe when he becomes Kommassar he will issue an edict that requires
everyone, except him, to walk or ride a bicycle. He will be using a government supplied Jeep Limo and all the folks who made illegal cash payoffs will be allowed solar powered cars. "Al J" <ajsmail@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:MPG.1f7c330d71de26279898b3@news.xnet.com... > If they're so concerned about polution and energy use, shouldn't the > express and HOV lanes be reserved for Humvee's, Super Pickups, Ferrari's > and other vehicles that get really poor gas mileage in bumper to bumper > traffic? That would sure make it easier for the Guv'nor to get around in > his Humvee ;-) > > In article <IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com>, JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com > says... >> I bet he's running for governor. >> >> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >> standards set by the state. >> >> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >> Jeff DeWitt >> >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> > Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >> > >> > Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder >> > rate >> > is so high... >> > >> > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >> > news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >> > >> >>Dave Milne wrote: >> >> >> >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >> >>> >> >>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >> >>>at the American legal system ! >> >> >> >>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >>DougW >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Maybe when he becomes Kommassar he will issue an edict that requires
everyone, except him, to walk or ride a bicycle. He will be using a government supplied Jeep Limo and all the folks who made illegal cash payoffs will be allowed solar powered cars. "Al J" <ajsmail@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:MPG.1f7c330d71de26279898b3@news.xnet.com... > If they're so concerned about polution and energy use, shouldn't the > express and HOV lanes be reserved for Humvee's, Super Pickups, Ferrari's > and other vehicles that get really poor gas mileage in bumper to bumper > traffic? That would sure make it easier for the Guv'nor to get around in > his Humvee ;-) > > In article <IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com>, JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com > says... >> I bet he's running for governor. >> >> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >> standards set by the state. >> >> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >> Jeff DeWitt >> >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> > Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >> > >> > Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder >> > rate >> > is so high... >> > >> > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >> > news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >> > >> >>Dave Milne wrote: >> >> >> >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >> >>> >> >>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >> >>>at the American legal system ! >> >> >> >>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >>DougW >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Dave, That shows you do not understand the mindset of a portion of the US
population. There are those who believe that others are responsible for all the woes in their existence. Even though I live 4 hours away from California (by jet) and was last in LA in 1974, I forced them, with the gun in my bedroom closet, to adopt their hedonistic lifestyle. The very thought that I can leave my door unlocked, trust my neighbors, and breathe clean air is abhorrent to them which, in turn, incited them to acts of senseless gang violence, immoral behavior, arson, and murder. The simple act of watering my lawn any day or time I desire (we pump water from the river, process it, use it, reprocess it, and return it to the river cleaner than it was originally) forces them to drive themselves to distant beaches in vehicles getting poor mileage and high pollution (probably Jeeps), lay in the sun 12 hours a day and contract skin cancer. When I took a second job so I could send my children (born in marriage) to a private school the first few years forced them to demand that their school systems NOT teach their children to read and write any more than necessary to fill out a welfare form (the dole). "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:1YqQg.22330$r61.12224@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk... > Well quite. I would have thought that a defence of "Californians knew > about > their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do > it. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com... >> I bet he's running for governor. >> >> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >> standards set by the state. >> >> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >> Jeff DeWitt > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Dave, That shows you do not understand the mindset of a portion of the US
population. There are those who believe that others are responsible for all the woes in their existence. Even though I live 4 hours away from California (by jet) and was last in LA in 1974, I forced them, with the gun in my bedroom closet, to adopt their hedonistic lifestyle. The very thought that I can leave my door unlocked, trust my neighbors, and breathe clean air is abhorrent to them which, in turn, incited them to acts of senseless gang violence, immoral behavior, arson, and murder. The simple act of watering my lawn any day or time I desire (we pump water from the river, process it, use it, reprocess it, and return it to the river cleaner than it was originally) forces them to drive themselves to distant beaches in vehicles getting poor mileage and high pollution (probably Jeeps), lay in the sun 12 hours a day and contract skin cancer. When I took a second job so I could send my children (born in marriage) to a private school the first few years forced them to demand that their school systems NOT teach their children to read and write any more than necessary to fill out a welfare form (the dole). "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:1YqQg.22330$r61.12224@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk... > Well quite. I would have thought that a defence of "Californians knew > about > their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do > it. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com... >> I bet he's running for governor. >> >> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >> standards set by the state. >> >> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >> Jeff DeWitt > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Dave, That shows you do not understand the mindset of a portion of the US
population. There are those who believe that others are responsible for all the woes in their existence. Even though I live 4 hours away from California (by jet) and was last in LA in 1974, I forced them, with the gun in my bedroom closet, to adopt their hedonistic lifestyle. The very thought that I can leave my door unlocked, trust my neighbors, and breathe clean air is abhorrent to them which, in turn, incited them to acts of senseless gang violence, immoral behavior, arson, and murder. The simple act of watering my lawn any day or time I desire (we pump water from the river, process it, use it, reprocess it, and return it to the river cleaner than it was originally) forces them to drive themselves to distant beaches in vehicles getting poor mileage and high pollution (probably Jeeps), lay in the sun 12 hours a day and contract skin cancer. When I took a second job so I could send my children (born in marriage) to a private school the first few years forced them to demand that their school systems NOT teach their children to read and write any more than necessary to fill out a welfare form (the dole). "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:1YqQg.22330$r61.12224@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk... > Well quite. I would have thought that a defence of "Californians knew > about > their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do > it. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com... >> I bet he's running for governor. >> >> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >> standards set by the state. >> >> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >> Jeff DeWitt > > |
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