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Dave Milne 09-20-2006 05:55 PM

California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm

Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the
American legal system !

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ



Frank_v7.0 09-20-2006 06:09 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
Dave Milne wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>
> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the
> American legal system !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>

This won't happen, but all the companies sued should just discontinue
doing business in Kalifornia. Let them build their own smog free vehicles.

--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 09-20-2006 06:09 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
Dave Milne wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>
> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the
> American legal system !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>

This won't happen, but all the companies sued should just discontinue
doing business in Kalifornia. Let them build their own smog free vehicles.

--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 09-20-2006 06:09 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
Dave Milne wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>
> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the
> American legal system !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>

This won't happen, but all the companies sued should just discontinue
doing business in Kalifornia. Let them build their own smog free vehicles.

--
FRH

Earle Horton 09-20-2006 06:09 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
California is not really part of the United States.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>
> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at

the
> American legal system !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>




Earle Horton 09-20-2006 06:09 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
California is not really part of the United States.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>
> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at

the
> American legal system !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>




Earle Horton 09-20-2006 06:09 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
California is not really part of the United States.

Earle

"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>
> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at

the
> American legal system !
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>




DougW 09-20-2006 06:18 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
Dave Milne wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>
> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel
> at the American legal system !


If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree.


--
DougW



DougW 09-20-2006 06:18 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
Dave Milne wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>
> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel
> at the American legal system !


If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree.


--
DougW



DougW 09-20-2006 06:18 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
Dave Milne wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>
> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel
> at the American legal system !


If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree.


--
DougW



Matt Macchiarolo 09-20-2006 06:51 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year?

Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate
is so high...

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11...
> Dave Milne wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel
>> at the American legal system !

>
> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree.
>
>
> --
> DougW
>




Matt Macchiarolo 09-20-2006 06:51 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year?

Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate
is so high...

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11...
> Dave Milne wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel
>> at the American legal system !

>
> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree.
>
>
> --
> DougW
>




Matt Macchiarolo 09-20-2006 06:51 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year?

Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate
is so high...

"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11...
> Dave Milne wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel
>> at the American legal system !

>
> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree.
>
>
> --
> DougW
>




Frank_v7.0 09-20-2006 07:08 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year?
>
> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate
> is so high...
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11...
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>>
>>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel
>>> at the American legal system !

>> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree.
>>
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>>

>
>

A little OT, but to answer your question about Kalifornia suing firearms
manufacturers: >
http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegisla...ITNDrop=1360-L




--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 09-20-2006 07:08 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year?
>
> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate
> is so high...
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11...
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>>
>>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel
>>> at the American legal system !

>> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree.
>>
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>>

>
>

A little OT, but to answer your question about Kalifornia suing firearms
manufacturers: >
http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegisla...ITNDrop=1360-L




--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 09-20-2006 07:08 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year?
>
> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate
> is so high...
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11...
>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>>
>>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel
>>> at the American legal system !

>> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree.
>>
>>
>> --
>> DougW
>>

>
>

A little OT, but to answer your question about Kalifornia suing firearms
manufacturers: >
http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegisla...ITNDrop=1360-L




--
FRH

Coasty 09-20-2006 07:59 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 

"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:TRjQg.1155$Ka1.757@news01.roc.ny...
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year?
>>
>> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder
>> rate is so high...
>>
>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
>> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11...
>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>>>
>>>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel
>>>> at the American legal system !
>>> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> DougW
>>>

>>
>>

> A little OT, but to answer your question about Kalifornia suing firearms
> manufacturers: >
> http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegisla...ITNDrop=1360-L
>
>
>
>
> --
> FRH


Well, I can't wait for the big one when Leftyfornia falls into the ocean
then they will sue mother nature for not providing any warning.

Coasty



Coasty 09-20-2006 07:59 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 

"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:TRjQg.1155$Ka1.757@news01.roc.ny...
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year?
>>
>> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder
>> rate is so high...
>>
>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
>> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11...
>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>>>
>>>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel
>>>> at the American legal system !
>>> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> DougW
>>>

>>
>>

> A little OT, but to answer your question about Kalifornia suing firearms
> manufacturers: >
> http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegisla...ITNDrop=1360-L
>
>
>
>
> --
> FRH


Well, I can't wait for the big one when Leftyfornia falls into the ocean
then they will sue mother nature for not providing any warning.

Coasty



Coasty 09-20-2006 07:59 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 

"Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message
news:TRjQg.1155$Ka1.757@news01.roc.ny...
> Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year?
>>
>> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder
>> rate is so high...
>>
>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
>> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11...
>>> Dave Milne wrote:
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>>>
>>>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel
>>>> at the American legal system !
>>> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> DougW
>>>

>>
>>

> A little OT, but to answer your question about Kalifornia suing firearms
> manufacturers: >
> http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegisla...ITNDrop=1360-L
>
>
>
>
> --
> FRH


Well, I can't wait for the big one when Leftyfornia falls into the ocean
then they will sue mother nature for not providing any warning.

Coasty



Jeffrey DeWitt 09-20-2006 08:14 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
I bet he's running for governor.

Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense.

Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the
standards set by the state.

If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves.

Jeff DeWitt

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year?
>
> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate
> is so high...
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11...
>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>>
>>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel
>>>at the American legal system !

>>
>>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree.
>>
>>
>>--
>>DougW
>>

>
>
>


Jeffrey DeWitt 09-20-2006 08:14 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
I bet he's running for governor.

Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense.

Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the
standards set by the state.

If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves.

Jeff DeWitt

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year?
>
> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate
> is so high...
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11...
>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>>
>>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel
>>>at the American legal system !

>>
>>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree.
>>
>>
>>--
>>DougW
>>

>
>
>


Jeffrey DeWitt 09-20-2006 08:14 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
I bet he's running for governor.

Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense.

Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the
standards set by the state.

If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves.

Jeff DeWitt

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year?
>
> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate
> is so high...
>
> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11...
>
>>Dave Milne wrote:
>>
>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>>
>>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel
>>>at the American legal system !

>>
>>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree.
>>
>>
>>--
>>DougW
>>

>
>
>


sam owens 09-20-2006 09:33 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:55:09 GMT, "Dave Milne"
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:

>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>
>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the
>American legal system !
>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ



I've been to California twice in 63 and 06 and I can only say that
California is a special case when it comes to air because of the
climate, topography, etc and it's about cleaner air. Cleaner air is
important and I don't give a crap about any of those companies. They
want my money and loyalty. Those are not the top qualities in my book.

I'd rather they cared about lungs but that ain't gonna happen HA!

Peace

Sam


sam owens 09-20-2006 09:33 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:55:09 GMT, "Dave Milne"
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:

>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>
>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the
>American legal system !
>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ



I've been to California twice in 63 and 06 and I can only say that
California is a special case when it comes to air because of the
climate, topography, etc and it's about cleaner air. Cleaner air is
important and I don't give a crap about any of those companies. They
want my money and loyalty. Those are not the top qualities in my book.

I'd rather they cared about lungs but that ain't gonna happen HA!

Peace

Sam


sam owens 09-20-2006 09:33 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:55:09 GMT, "Dave Milne"
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:

>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>
>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the
>American legal system !
>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ



I've been to California twice in 63 and 06 and I can only say that
California is a special case when it comes to air because of the
climate, topography, etc and it's about cleaner air. Cleaner air is
important and I don't give a crap about any of those companies. They
want my money and loyalty. Those are not the top qualities in my book.

I'd rather they cared about lungs but that ain't gonna happen HA!

Peace

Sam


Jeffrey DeWitt 09-20-2006 10:24 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
sam owens wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:55:09 GMT, "Dave Milne"
> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
>
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the
>>American legal system !
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

>
>
>
> I've been to California twice in 63 and 06 and I can only say that
> California is a special case when it comes to air because of the
> climate, topography, etc and it's about cleaner air. Cleaner air is
> important and I don't give a crap about any of those companies. They
> want my money and loyalty. Those are not the top qualities in my book.
>
> I'd rather they cared about lungs but that ain't gonna happen HA!
>
> Peace
>
> Sam
>


CO2 isn't a pollutant, at least not in the normal sense and it it
DOESN'T hurt you lungs.

Those companies built their cars to the standards set by the state of
California, if that isn't good enough for the state then THEY screwed
up, not the companies.

This has got to be about an Attorney General looking to make headlines
(and probably running for governor). Not only should it get thrown out
of court but the state should be forced to pay the car companies legal
bills.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeffrey DeWitt 09-20-2006 10:24 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
sam owens wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:55:09 GMT, "Dave Milne"
> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
>
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the
>>American legal system !
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

>
>
>
> I've been to California twice in 63 and 06 and I can only say that
> California is a special case when it comes to air because of the
> climate, topography, etc and it's about cleaner air. Cleaner air is
> important and I don't give a crap about any of those companies. They
> want my money and loyalty. Those are not the top qualities in my book.
>
> I'd rather they cared about lungs but that ain't gonna happen HA!
>
> Peace
>
> Sam
>


CO2 isn't a pollutant, at least not in the normal sense and it it
DOESN'T hurt you lungs.

Those companies built their cars to the standards set by the state of
California, if that isn't good enough for the state then THEY screwed
up, not the companies.

This has got to be about an Attorney General looking to make headlines
(and probably running for governor). Not only should it get thrown out
of court but the state should be forced to pay the car companies legal
bills.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeffrey DeWitt 09-20-2006 10:24 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
sam owens wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:55:09 GMT, "Dave Milne"
> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
>
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the
>>American legal system !
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

>
>
>
> I've been to California twice in 63 and 06 and I can only say that
> California is a special case when it comes to air because of the
> climate, topography, etc and it's about cleaner air. Cleaner air is
> important and I don't give a crap about any of those companies. They
> want my money and loyalty. Those are not the top qualities in my book.
>
> I'd rather they cared about lungs but that ain't gonna happen HA!
>
> Peace
>
> Sam
>


CO2 isn't a pollutant, at least not in the normal sense and it it
DOESN'T hurt you lungs.

Those companies built their cars to the standards set by the state of
California, if that isn't good enough for the state then THEY screwed
up, not the companies.

This has got to be about an Attorney General looking to make headlines
(and probably running for governor). Not only should it get thrown out
of court but the state should be forced to pay the car companies legal
bills.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeffrey DeWitt 09-20-2006 10:44 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
OK I checked, the moron behind this is the California AG Bill Lockyer, a
lawyer and life long politician who has apparently never had a real job
in his life. (His whole career has been in "public service").

I don't know if the California AG is term limited or not but he is at
the end of his second term as AG and is now running for state Treasurer.

He seems like exactly the kind of professional politican we DON'T need,
of whatever party.

Jeff DeWitt

sam owens wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:55:09 GMT, "Dave Milne"
> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
>
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the
>>American legal system !
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

>
>
>
> I've been to California twice in 63 and 06 and I can only say that
> California is a special case when it comes to air because of the
> climate, topography, etc and it's about cleaner air. Cleaner air is
> important and I don't give a crap about any of those companies. They
> want my money and loyalty. Those are not the top qualities in my book.
>
> I'd rather they cared about lungs but that ain't gonna happen HA!
>
> Peace
>
> Sam
>


Jeffrey DeWitt 09-20-2006 10:44 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
OK I checked, the moron behind this is the California AG Bill Lockyer, a
lawyer and life long politician who has apparently never had a real job
in his life. (His whole career has been in "public service").

I don't know if the California AG is term limited or not but he is at
the end of his second term as AG and is now running for state Treasurer.

He seems like exactly the kind of professional politican we DON'T need,
of whatever party.

Jeff DeWitt

sam owens wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:55:09 GMT, "Dave Milne"
> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
>
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the
>>American legal system !
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

>
>
>
> I've been to California twice in 63 and 06 and I can only say that
> California is a special case when it comes to air because of the
> climate, topography, etc and it's about cleaner air. Cleaner air is
> important and I don't give a crap about any of those companies. They
> want my money and loyalty. Those are not the top qualities in my book.
>
> I'd rather they cared about lungs but that ain't gonna happen HA!
>
> Peace
>
> Sam
>


Jeffrey DeWitt 09-20-2006 10:44 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
OK I checked, the moron behind this is the California AG Bill Lockyer, a
lawyer and life long politician who has apparently never had a real job
in his life. (His whole career has been in "public service").

I don't know if the California AG is term limited or not but he is at
the end of his second term as AG and is now running for state Treasurer.

He seems like exactly the kind of professional politican we DON'T need,
of whatever party.

Jeff DeWitt

sam owens wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:55:09 GMT, "Dave Milne"
> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
>
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the
>>American legal system !
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

>
>
>
> I've been to California twice in 63 and 06 and I can only say that
> California is a special case when it comes to air because of the
> climate, topography, etc and it's about cleaner air. Cleaner air is
> important and I don't give a crap about any of those companies. They
> want my money and loyalty. Those are not the top qualities in my book.
>
> I'd rather they cared about lungs but that ain't gonna happen HA!
>
> Peace
>
> Sam
>


billy ray 09-20-2006 10:45 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
It is illegal in Kalifornia for people to take responsibility for their own
actions, everything is always someone else's fault.


>
> Those companies built their cars to the standards set by the state of
> California, if that isn't good enough for the state then THEY screwed up,
> not the companies.
>
>




billy ray 09-20-2006 10:45 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
It is illegal in Kalifornia for people to take responsibility for their own
actions, everything is always someone else's fault.


>
> Those companies built their cars to the standards set by the state of
> California, if that isn't good enough for the state then THEY screwed up,
> not the companies.
>
>




billy ray 09-20-2006 10:45 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
It is illegal in Kalifornia for people to take responsibility for their own
actions, everything is always someone else's fault.


>
> Those companies built their cars to the standards set by the state of
> California, if that isn't good enough for the state then THEY screwed up,
> not the companies.
>
>




billy ray 09-20-2006 10:48 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
To what party does he belong?



>
> He seems like exactly the kind of professional politican we DON'T need, of
> whatever party.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>




billy ray 09-20-2006 10:48 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
To what party does he belong?



>
> He seems like exactly the kind of professional politican we DON'T need, of
> whatever party.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>




billy ray 09-20-2006 10:48 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
 
To what party does he belong?



>
> He seems like exactly the kind of professional politican we DON'T need, of
> whatever party.
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>




Jeffrey DeWitt 09-20-2006 10:56 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
Billy, I bet you can guess <G>

Jeff DeWitt

billy ray wrote:
> To what party does he belong?
>
>
>
>
>>He seems like exactly the kind of professional politican we DON'T need, of
>>whatever party.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>

>
>
>


Jeffrey DeWitt 09-20-2006 10:56 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
Billy, I bet you can guess <G>

Jeff DeWitt

billy ray wrote:
> To what party does he belong?
>
>
>
>
>>He seems like exactly the kind of professional politican we DON'T need, of
>>whatever party.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>

>
>
>


Jeffrey DeWitt 09-20-2006 10:56 PM

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 
Billy, I bet you can guess <G>

Jeff DeWitt

billy ray wrote:
> To what party does he belong?
>
>
>
>
>>He seems like exactly the kind of professional politican we DON'T need, of
>>whatever party.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>

>
>
>



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