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Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
I don't think Bill Lockyear needs to be up for election to make an ass
out of himself. Think he already did the sue gun makers thing. We are also gonna raise the cigarette tax again so smokers will be forced to move to cheaper locally manufactured drugs such as meth and crack. And pretty sure we'll be de-balling all pit bulls in the state and possibly even Bill H. Matt Macchiarolo proclaimed: > Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? > > Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate > is so high... > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message > news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... > >>Dave Milne wrote: >> >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>> >>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>at the American legal system ! >> >>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >> >> >>-- >>DougW >> > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Coasty proclaimed:
> "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message > news:TRjQg.1155$Ka1.757@news01.roc.ny... > >>Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> >>>Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >>> >>>Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder >>>rate is so high... >>> >>>"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >>>news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >>> >>>>Dave Milne wrote: >>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>>>at the American legal system ! >>>>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>>>-- >>>>DougW >>A little OT, but to answer your question about Kalifornia suing firearms >>manufacturers: > >>http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegisla...ITNDrop=1360-L >>-- >>FRH > Well, I can't wait for the big one when Leftyfornia falls into the ocean > then they will sue mother nature for not providing any warning. > > Coasty Sadly, Kalifornia is NOT falling into the ocean as is popularly believed. It is really rising up out of the ocean, with a drop in the central valley similar. Similar to the current Sierras and Great Basin to the east of them. Kalifornia's new big mountain range will run thru Santa Cruz area and Sackatomato may be below sea level and the new west coast will be somewhere out west of Catalina and the Farallons. Maybe the volcanos that will result can be sued for all their sulfur emissions. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Coasty proclaimed:
> "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message > news:TRjQg.1155$Ka1.757@news01.roc.ny... > >>Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> >>>Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >>> >>>Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder >>>rate is so high... >>> >>>"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >>>news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >>> >>>>Dave Milne wrote: >>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>>>at the American legal system ! >>>>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>>>-- >>>>DougW >>A little OT, but to answer your question about Kalifornia suing firearms >>manufacturers: > >>http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegisla...ITNDrop=1360-L >>-- >>FRH > Well, I can't wait for the big one when Leftyfornia falls into the ocean > then they will sue mother nature for not providing any warning. > > Coasty Sadly, Kalifornia is NOT falling into the ocean as is popularly believed. It is really rising up out of the ocean, with a drop in the central valley similar. Similar to the current Sierras and Great Basin to the east of them. Kalifornia's new big mountain range will run thru Santa Cruz area and Sackatomato may be below sea level and the new west coast will be somewhere out west of Catalina and the Farallons. Maybe the volcanos that will result can be sued for all their sulfur emissions. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Coasty proclaimed:
> "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message > news:TRjQg.1155$Ka1.757@news01.roc.ny... > >>Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> >>>Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >>> >>>Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder >>>rate is so high... >>> >>>"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >>>news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >>> >>>>Dave Milne wrote: >>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>>>at the American legal system ! >>>>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>>>-- >>>>DougW >>A little OT, but to answer your question about Kalifornia suing firearms >>manufacturers: > >>http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegisla...ITNDrop=1360-L >>-- >>FRH > Well, I can't wait for the big one when Leftyfornia falls into the ocean > then they will sue mother nature for not providing any warning. > > Coasty Sadly, Kalifornia is NOT falling into the ocean as is popularly believed. It is really rising up out of the ocean, with a drop in the central valley similar. Similar to the current Sierras and Great Basin to the east of them. Kalifornia's new big mountain range will run thru Santa Cruz area and Sackatomato may be below sea level and the new west coast will be somewhere out west of Catalina and the Farallons. Maybe the volcanos that will result can be sued for all their sulfur emissions. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
I don't remember him running for guv, but then I try not to encourage
them by voting for them. As far as what Kalifornia can do to themselves if they don't like the standards, you used the wrong verb, but it would be politically incorrect on a family group for me to post the correct one. "find" themselves, yeah, thats it. Jeffrey DeWitt proclaimed: > I bet he's running for governor. > > Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. > > Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the > standards set by the state. > > If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. > > Jeff DeWitt > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > >> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >> >> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder >> rate is so high... >> >> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >> >>> Dave Milne wrote: >>> >>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>> >>>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>> at the American legal system ! >>> >>> >>> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> DougW >>> >> >> >> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
I don't remember him running for guv, but then I try not to encourage
them by voting for them. As far as what Kalifornia can do to themselves if they don't like the standards, you used the wrong verb, but it would be politically incorrect on a family group for me to post the correct one. "find" themselves, yeah, thats it. Jeffrey DeWitt proclaimed: > I bet he's running for governor. > > Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. > > Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the > standards set by the state. > > If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. > > Jeff DeWitt > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > >> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >> >> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder >> rate is so high... >> >> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >> >>> Dave Milne wrote: >>> >>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>> >>>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>> at the American legal system ! >>> >>> >>> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> DougW >>> >> >> >> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
I don't remember him running for guv, but then I try not to encourage
them by voting for them. As far as what Kalifornia can do to themselves if they don't like the standards, you used the wrong verb, but it would be politically incorrect on a family group for me to post the correct one. "find" themselves, yeah, thats it. Jeffrey DeWitt proclaimed: > I bet he's running for governor. > > Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. > > Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the > standards set by the state. > > If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. > > Jeff DeWitt > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > >> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >> >> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder >> rate is so high... >> >> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >> >>> Dave Milne wrote: >>> >>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>> >>>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>> at the American legal system ! >>> >>> >>> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> DougW >>> >> >> >> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip on
the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement or your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a couple of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip is cancelled. And so on and so forth.. Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message news:451324fc$0$9115$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... > Dave, > > It's called "Anglo-Saxon" common law, isn't it? > > Earle |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip on
the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement or your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a couple of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip is cancelled. And so on and so forth.. Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message news:451324fc$0$9115$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... > Dave, > > It's called "Anglo-Saxon" common law, isn't it? > > Earle |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip on
the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement or your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a couple of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip is cancelled. And so on and so forth.. Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message news:451324fc$0$9115$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... > Dave, > > It's called "Anglo-Saxon" common law, isn't it? > > Earle |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Kalifornians are just following the human tendency of hating the very things that are pretty much absolutely necessary to survive. With a political climate that takes 25 years and three supreme court decisions to extend a light rail line one half of a mile, you can imagine the virtually total lack of public transit in the state except for very small local pockets of such. Then you add the extremely large size of the state plus the really oddball zoning ordnances designed to keep folks from living within bike or walk distances of their employment or supermarkets and you are pretty much screwed without a vehicle in all but a very very very few urban centers. Then you add in the movie magic so realistic that folks tend to believe that you get electricity by just turning on a switch [with no power plants] and gas by just clicking a lever at the station [with no oil wells, no refineries] and you pretty much have defined the typical Kalifornian treehugger that drives their Hummer to an anti-SUV protest rally. Dave Milne proclaimed: > Well quite. I would have thought that a defence of "Californians knew about > their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do it. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com... > >>I bet he's running for governor. >> >>Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >>Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >>standards set by the state. >> >>If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >>Jeff DeWitt > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Kalifornians are just following the human tendency of hating the very things that are pretty much absolutely necessary to survive. With a political climate that takes 25 years and three supreme court decisions to extend a light rail line one half of a mile, you can imagine the virtually total lack of public transit in the state except for very small local pockets of such. Then you add the extremely large size of the state plus the really oddball zoning ordnances designed to keep folks from living within bike or walk distances of their employment or supermarkets and you are pretty much screwed without a vehicle in all but a very very very few urban centers. Then you add in the movie magic so realistic that folks tend to believe that you get electricity by just turning on a switch [with no power plants] and gas by just clicking a lever at the station [with no oil wells, no refineries] and you pretty much have defined the typical Kalifornian treehugger that drives their Hummer to an anti-SUV protest rally. Dave Milne proclaimed: > Well quite. I would have thought that a defence of "Californians knew about > their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do it. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com... > >>I bet he's running for governor. >> >>Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >>Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >>standards set by the state. >> >>If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >>Jeff DeWitt > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Kalifornians are just following the human tendency of hating the very things that are pretty much absolutely necessary to survive. With a political climate that takes 25 years and three supreme court decisions to extend a light rail line one half of a mile, you can imagine the virtually total lack of public transit in the state except for very small local pockets of such. Then you add the extremely large size of the state plus the really oddball zoning ordnances designed to keep folks from living within bike or walk distances of their employment or supermarkets and you are pretty much screwed without a vehicle in all but a very very very few urban centers. Then you add in the movie magic so realistic that folks tend to believe that you get electricity by just turning on a switch [with no power plants] and gas by just clicking a lever at the station [with no oil wells, no refineries] and you pretty much have defined the typical Kalifornian treehugger that drives their Hummer to an anti-SUV protest rally. Dave Milne proclaimed: > Well quite. I would have thought that a defence of "Californians knew about > their pollution levels, but wilfully drove too many miles" would also do it. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message > news:IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com... > >>I bet he's running for governor. >> >>Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >>Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >>standards set by the state. >> >>If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >>Jeff DeWitt > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
They do have liquid assets but between the environmental terrorists and
misguided yupettes the market for milk in Kalifornia is declining. "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:V9adnYkR4dN79ojYnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > Dave, if the cows in Kalifornia had liquid assets, the state would sue > them for the methane in cow farts. > > > Dave Milne proclaimed: > >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >> >> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at >> the >> American legal system ! >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ >> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
They do have liquid assets but between the environmental terrorists and
misguided yupettes the market for milk in Kalifornia is declining. "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:V9adnYkR4dN79ojYnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > Dave, if the cows in Kalifornia had liquid assets, the state would sue > them for the methane in cow farts. > > > Dave Milne proclaimed: > >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >> >> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at >> the >> American legal system ! >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ >> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
They do have liquid assets but between the environmental terrorists and
misguided yupettes the market for milk in Kalifornia is declining. "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:V9adnYkR4dN79ojYnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > Dave, if the cows in Kalifornia had liquid assets, the state would sue > them for the methane in cow farts. > > > Dave Milne proclaimed: > >> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >> >> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at >> the >> American legal system ! >> >> Dave Milne, Scotland >> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ >> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
I expect that will pale in comparison to the comedy going on up in San
Jose as it plays out and into the pockets of the lawyers. L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed: > The courts just threw out a jury awarded 120 million slander suit > against the city for our last major of San Diego. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > >>Your barristers are looking at their colleagues across the pond and seeing >>how much money they can made. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
I expect that will pale in comparison to the comedy going on up in San
Jose as it plays out and into the pockets of the lawyers. L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed: > The courts just threw out a jury awarded 120 million slander suit > against the city for our last major of San Diego. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > >>Your barristers are looking at their colleagues across the pond and seeing >>how much money they can made. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
I expect that will pale in comparison to the comedy going on up in San
Jose as it plays out and into the pockets of the lawyers. L.W.(Bill) ------ III proclaimed: > The courts just threw out a jury awarded 120 million slander suit > against the city for our last major of San Diego. > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ > > Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > >>Your barristers are looking at their colleagues across the pond and seeing >>how much money they can made. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
That is one answer. To me it is blaming other folks. I blame the folks
who vote for the pliticians who pull these stunts since they know it will get them elected or re-elected. Jeffrey DeWitt proclaimed: > Dave, it's easy enough to understand. > > It's got nothing to do with pollution or the automakers doing anything > wrong (they didn't), it has EVERYTHING to do with a politician abusing > his powers and trying to get headlines so he can win another election. > > In this case I think the legal term is "prosecutorial misconduct". > > Jeff DeWitt > > Dave Milne wrote: > >> I can't even *begin* to understand that lawsuit ! >> >> The sad thing is we are moving the same way re litigousness and blaming >> other people. Car insurance is going up massively due to personal injury >> claims. Other really nasty side effects - for example, World War 2 >> veterans >> who risked getting their arses shot off now cannot have a veterans parade >> without PAYING £300 insurance "in case someone get's hurt". >> Un-f*kng-believable. Insurance for a group of senior citizens to walk >> along >> a road ? I mean what are they going to do - chop someone with their >> walking >> sticks ? Downright disgusting. >> >> Dave >> >> >>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message >>> news:80914$4512a3c5$422afc51$7982@FUSE.NET... >>> Dave, That shows you do not understand the mindset of a portion of the >>> US population. >> >> >> >> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
That is one answer. To me it is blaming other folks. I blame the folks
who vote for the pliticians who pull these stunts since they know it will get them elected or re-elected. Jeffrey DeWitt proclaimed: > Dave, it's easy enough to understand. > > It's got nothing to do with pollution or the automakers doing anything > wrong (they didn't), it has EVERYTHING to do with a politician abusing > his powers and trying to get headlines so he can win another election. > > In this case I think the legal term is "prosecutorial misconduct". > > Jeff DeWitt > > Dave Milne wrote: > >> I can't even *begin* to understand that lawsuit ! >> >> The sad thing is we are moving the same way re litigousness and blaming >> other people. Car insurance is going up massively due to personal injury >> claims. Other really nasty side effects - for example, World War 2 >> veterans >> who risked getting their arses shot off now cannot have a veterans parade >> without PAYING £300 insurance "in case someone get's hurt". >> Un-f*kng-believable. Insurance for a group of senior citizens to walk >> along >> a road ? I mean what are they going to do - chop someone with their >> walking >> sticks ? Downright disgusting. >> >> Dave >> >> >>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message >>> news:80914$4512a3c5$422afc51$7982@FUSE.NET... >>> Dave, That shows you do not understand the mindset of a portion of the >>> US population. >> >> >> >> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
That is one answer. To me it is blaming other folks. I blame the folks
who vote for the pliticians who pull these stunts since they know it will get them elected or re-elected. Jeffrey DeWitt proclaimed: > Dave, it's easy enough to understand. > > It's got nothing to do with pollution or the automakers doing anything > wrong (they didn't), it has EVERYTHING to do with a politician abusing > his powers and trying to get headlines so he can win another election. > > In this case I think the legal term is "prosecutorial misconduct". > > Jeff DeWitt > > Dave Milne wrote: > >> I can't even *begin* to understand that lawsuit ! >> >> The sad thing is we are moving the same way re litigousness and blaming >> other people. Car insurance is going up massively due to personal injury >> claims. Other really nasty side effects - for example, World War 2 >> veterans >> who risked getting their arses shot off now cannot have a veterans parade >> without PAYING £300 insurance "in case someone get's hurt". >> Un-f*kng-believable. Insurance for a group of senior citizens to walk >> along >> a road ? I mean what are they going to do - chop someone with their >> walking >> sticks ? Downright disgusting. >> >> Dave >> >> >>> "billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message >>> news:80914$4512a3c5$422afc51$7982@FUSE.NET... >>> Dave, That shows you do not understand the mindset of a portion of the >>> US population. >> >> >> >> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Not to mention reformed polluter and tree hugger Arianna Huffington if she decides her Lincoln Navigator wasn't such a bad idea after all. Al J proclaimed: > If they're so concerned about polution and energy use, shouldn't the > express and HOV lanes be reserved for Humvee's, Super Pickups, Ferrari's > and other vehicles that get really poor gas mileage in bumper to bumper > traffic? That would sure make it easier for the Guv'nor to get around in > his Humvee ;-) > > In article <IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com>, JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com > says... > >>I bet he's running for governor. >> >>Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >>Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >>standards set by the state. >> >>If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >>Jeff DeWitt >> >>Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> >>>Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >>> >>>Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate >>>is so high... >>> >>>"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >>>news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >>> >>> >>>>Dave Milne wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>>> >>>>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>>>at the American legal system ! >>>> >>>>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>DougW >>>> >>> >>> >>> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Not to mention reformed polluter and tree hugger Arianna Huffington if she decides her Lincoln Navigator wasn't such a bad idea after all. Al J proclaimed: > If they're so concerned about polution and energy use, shouldn't the > express and HOV lanes be reserved for Humvee's, Super Pickups, Ferrari's > and other vehicles that get really poor gas mileage in bumper to bumper > traffic? That would sure make it easier for the Guv'nor to get around in > his Humvee ;-) > > In article <IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com>, JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com > says... > >>I bet he's running for governor. >> >>Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >>Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >>standards set by the state. >> >>If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >>Jeff DeWitt >> >>Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> >>>Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >>> >>>Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate >>>is so high... >>> >>>"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >>>news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >>> >>> >>>>Dave Milne wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>>> >>>>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>>>at the American legal system ! >>>> >>>>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>DougW >>>> >>> >>> >>> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Not to mention reformed polluter and tree hugger Arianna Huffington if she decides her Lincoln Navigator wasn't such a bad idea after all. Al J proclaimed: > If they're so concerned about polution and energy use, shouldn't the > express and HOV lanes be reserved for Humvee's, Super Pickups, Ferrari's > and other vehicles that get really poor gas mileage in bumper to bumper > traffic? That would sure make it easier for the Guv'nor to get around in > his Humvee ;-) > > In article <IPkQg.13420$Qg.13296@southeast.rr.com>, JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com > says... > >>I bet he's running for governor. >> >>Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >>Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >>standards set by the state. >> >>If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >>Jeff DeWitt >> >>Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> >>>Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >>> >>>Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder rate >>>is so high... >>> >>>"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >>>news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >>> >>> >>>>Dave Milne wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>>> >>>>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>>>at the American legal system ! >>>> >>>>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>>> >>>> >>>>-- >>>>DougW >>>> >>> >>> >>> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Stop being politically correct. They aren't 'greenies', they are
environmental terrorists. They (the leadership) don't give a tinkers *%&% about the condition of the environment as their avowed goal is the destruction of the American way of life. Their every action confirms this. What I find alarming is that people buy into their propaganda and support the financially, spiritually, and with their votes. > That's nothing, wait until you see what the greenies are trying to do to > drive the price of gasoline into triple digits per gallon in Kalifornia. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Stop being politically correct. They aren't 'greenies', they are
environmental terrorists. They (the leadership) don't give a tinkers *%&% about the condition of the environment as their avowed goal is the destruction of the American way of life. Their every action confirms this. What I find alarming is that people buy into their propaganda and support the financially, spiritually, and with their votes. > That's nothing, wait until you see what the greenies are trying to do to > drive the price of gasoline into triple digits per gallon in Kalifornia. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Stop being politically correct. They aren't 'greenies', they are
environmental terrorists. They (the leadership) don't give a tinkers *%&% about the condition of the environment as their avowed goal is the destruction of the American way of life. Their every action confirms this. What I find alarming is that people buy into their propaganda and support the financially, spiritually, and with their votes. > That's nothing, wait until you see what the greenies are trying to do to > drive the price of gasoline into triple digits per gallon in Kalifornia. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
sam owens proclaimed:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:55:09 GMT, "Dave Milne" > <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote: > > >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >> >>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the >>American legal system ! >> >>Dave Milne, Scotland >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > > > I've been to California twice in 63 and 06 and I can only say that > California is a special case when it comes to air because of the > climate, topography, etc and it's about cleaner air. Cleaner air is > important and I don't give a crap about any of those companies. They > want my money and loyalty. Those are not the top qualities in my book. > > I'd rather they cared about lungs but that ain't gonna happen HA! > I've lived in northern and southern california and in a past employer had as a customer the good folks who monitor air quality around a few urban areas. Yes, there is a lot of pollution around the freeways, but the real gross polluters are fixed installations that buy off "pollution credits" rather than clean up their acts. And are very good at getting the uninformed to believe that it is really automobiles causing all the troubles. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
sam owens proclaimed:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:55:09 GMT, "Dave Milne" > <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote: > > >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >> >>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the >>American legal system ! >> >>Dave Milne, Scotland >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > > > I've been to California twice in 63 and 06 and I can only say that > California is a special case when it comes to air because of the > climate, topography, etc and it's about cleaner air. Cleaner air is > important and I don't give a crap about any of those companies. They > want my money and loyalty. Those are not the top qualities in my book. > > I'd rather they cared about lungs but that ain't gonna happen HA! > I've lived in northern and southern california and in a past employer had as a customer the good folks who monitor air quality around a few urban areas. Yes, there is a lot of pollution around the freeways, but the real gross polluters are fixed installations that buy off "pollution credits" rather than clean up their acts. And are very good at getting the uninformed to believe that it is really automobiles causing all the troubles. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
sam owens proclaimed:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:55:09 GMT, "Dave Milne" > <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote: > > >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >> >>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the >>American legal system ! >> >>Dave Milne, Scotland >>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ > > > > I've been to California twice in 63 and 06 and I can only say that > California is a special case when it comes to air because of the > climate, topography, etc and it's about cleaner air. Cleaner air is > important and I don't give a crap about any of those companies. They > want my money and loyalty. Those are not the top qualities in my book. > > I'd rather they cared about lungs but that ain't gonna happen HA! > I've lived in northern and southern california and in a past employer had as a customer the good folks who monitor air quality around a few urban areas. Yes, there is a lot of pollution around the freeways, but the real gross polluters are fixed installations that buy off "pollution credits" rather than clean up their acts. And are very good at getting the uninformed to believe that it is really automobiles causing all the troubles. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
My guess would be one of those parties over at the frat houses in Berkeley where they recently had a few folks fail to realize that you can overdose on the "special" brownies. billy ray proclaimed: > To what party does he belong? >>He seems like exactly the kind of professional politican we DON'T need, of >>whatever party. >> >>Jeff DeWitt >> > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
My guess would be one of those parties over at the frat houses in Berkeley where they recently had a few folks fail to realize that you can overdose on the "special" brownies. billy ray proclaimed: > To what party does he belong? >>He seems like exactly the kind of professional politican we DON'T need, of >>whatever party. >> >>Jeff DeWitt >> > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
My guess would be one of those parties over at the frat houses in Berkeley where they recently had a few folks fail to realize that you can overdose on the "special" brownies. billy ray proclaimed: > To what party does he belong? >>He seems like exactly the kind of professional politican we DON'T need, of >>whatever party. >> >>Jeff DeWitt >> > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Jason Backshall proclaimed:
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message > news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >> >>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at >>the >>American legal system ! > > > Interesting article. > > Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was > lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the > people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to > the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the manufacturers? > > In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who, though!? You didn't happen to notice if the "people of california" would ever get a dime of any settlement? Hah!!! Haven't been watching that one, the one involving the soap opera of what happens to company executive teams who *ever* piss off anyone bearing the family name of the business is so much more interesting as it plays out. Sadly, more good folks will probably lose their jobs and the executives will get golden parachutes. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Jason Backshall proclaimed:
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message > news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >> >>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at >>the >>American legal system ! > > > Interesting article. > > Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was > lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the > people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to > the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the manufacturers? > > In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who, though!? You didn't happen to notice if the "people of california" would ever get a dime of any settlement? Hah!!! Haven't been watching that one, the one involving the soap opera of what happens to company executive teams who *ever* piss off anyone bearing the family name of the business is so much more interesting as it plays out. Sadly, more good folks will probably lose their jobs and the executives will get golden parachutes. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Jason Backshall proclaimed:
> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message > news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >> >>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at >>the >>American legal system ! > > > Interesting article. > > Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was > lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the > people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to > the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the manufacturers? > > In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who, though!? You didn't happen to notice if the "people of california" would ever get a dime of any settlement? Hah!!! Haven't been watching that one, the one involving the soap opera of what happens to company executive teams who *ever* piss off anyone bearing the family name of the business is so much more interesting as it plays out. Sadly, more good folks will probably lose their jobs and the executives will get golden parachutes. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Dave Milne proclaimed:
> "Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message > news:45120365$0$13662$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > >>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message >>news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk... >> >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>> >>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at >>>the >>>American legal system ! >> >>Interesting article. >> >>Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was >>lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the >>people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to >>the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the > > manufacturers? > >>In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who, > > though!? > > That's the bit I'm marvelling at ! > You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think about buying. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Dave Milne proclaimed:
> "Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message > news:45120365$0$13662$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > >>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message >>news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk... >> >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>> >>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at >>>the >>>American legal system ! >> >>Interesting article. >> >>Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was >>lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the >>people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to >>the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the > > manufacturers? > >>In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who, > > though!? > > That's the bit I'm marvelling at ! > You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think about buying. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Dave Milne proclaimed:
> "Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message > news:45120365$0$13662$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au... > >>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message >>news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk... >> >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>> >>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at >>>the >>>American legal system ! >> >>Interesting article. >> >>Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was >>lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the >>people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to >>the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the > > manufacturers? > >>In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who, > > though!? > > That's the bit I'm marvelling at ! > You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think about buying. |
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