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Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Nope AlGore, Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Teddy, and Hilary say only people... ahhh
Americans.... well... non Demoncrats are responsible for all the pollution that has ever existed and every climactic change that has ever occurred. Al Sharpton says it was all the doing of the 'white man' and the 'Blue eyed devils.' I am unsure why they is reluctant to give the exact name of the person that causes the Ice Ages on a regular basis or just exactly who it was that hunted down (with his Jeep) and killed (with a legally registered and licensed handgun) the last of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:udmdnWgr_5cC8IjYnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Coasty proclaimed: > >> "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message >> news:TRjQg.1155$Ka1.757@news01.roc.ny... >> >>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >>> >>>>Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >>>> >>>>Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder >>>>rate is so high... >>>> >>>>"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >>>>news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >>>> >>>>>Dave Milne wrote: >>>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>>>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>>>>at the American legal system ! >>>>>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>>>>-- >>>>>DougW > >>>A little OT, but to answer your question about Kalifornia suing firearms >>>manufacturers: > >>>http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegisla...ITNDrop=1360-L >>>-- >>>FRH >> Well, I can't wait for the big one when Leftyfornia falls into the ocean >> then they will sue mother nature for not providing any warning. >> >> Coasty > > Sadly, Kalifornia is NOT falling into the ocean as is popularly believed. > It is really rising up out of the ocean, with a drop in the central valley > similar. Similar to the current Sierras and Great Basin to the east of > them. Kalifornia's new big mountain range will run thru Santa Cruz area > and Sackatomato may be below sea level and the new west coast will be > somewhere out west of Catalina and the Farallons. Maybe the volcanos that > will result can be sued for all their sulfur emissions. > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Nope AlGore, Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Teddy, and Hilary say only people... ahhh
Americans.... well... non Demoncrats are responsible for all the pollution that has ever existed and every climactic change that has ever occurred. Al Sharpton says it was all the doing of the 'white man' and the 'Blue eyed devils.' I am unsure why they is reluctant to give the exact name of the person that causes the Ice Ages on a regular basis or just exactly who it was that hunted down (with his Jeep) and killed (with a legally registered and licensed handgun) the last of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:udmdnWgr_5cC8IjYnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Coasty proclaimed: > >> "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message >> news:TRjQg.1155$Ka1.757@news01.roc.ny... >> >>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >>> >>>>Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >>>> >>>>Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder >>>>rate is so high... >>>> >>>>"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >>>>news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >>>> >>>>>Dave Milne wrote: >>>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>>>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>>>>at the American legal system ! >>>>>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>>>>-- >>>>>DougW > >>>A little OT, but to answer your question about Kalifornia suing firearms >>>manufacturers: > >>>http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegisla...ITNDrop=1360-L >>>-- >>>FRH >> Well, I can't wait for the big one when Leftyfornia falls into the ocean >> then they will sue mother nature for not providing any warning. >> >> Coasty > > Sadly, Kalifornia is NOT falling into the ocean as is popularly believed. > It is really rising up out of the ocean, with a drop in the central valley > similar. Similar to the current Sierras and Great Basin to the east of > them. Kalifornia's new big mountain range will run thru Santa Cruz area > and Sackatomato may be below sea level and the new west coast will be > somewhere out west of Catalina and the Farallons. Maybe the volcanos that > will result can be sued for all their sulfur emissions. > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Nope AlGore, Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Teddy, and Hilary say only people... ahhh
Americans.... well... non Demoncrats are responsible for all the pollution that has ever existed and every climactic change that has ever occurred. Al Sharpton says it was all the doing of the 'white man' and the 'Blue eyed devils.' I am unsure why they is reluctant to give the exact name of the person that causes the Ice Ages on a regular basis or just exactly who it was that hunted down (with his Jeep) and killed (with a legally registered and licensed handgun) the last of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:udmdnWgr_5cC8IjYnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > Coasty proclaimed: > >> "Frank_v7.0" <none@no.net> wrote in message >> news:TRjQg.1155$Ka1.757@news01.roc.ny... >> >>>Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >>> >>>>Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >>>> >>>>Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their murder >>>>rate is so high... >>>> >>>>"DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >>>>news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >>>> >>>>>Dave Milne wrote: >>>>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>>>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>>>>at the American legal system ! >>>>>If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>>>>-- >>>>>DougW > >>>A little OT, but to answer your question about Kalifornia suing firearms >>>manufacturers: > >>>http://www.nraila.org/CurrentLegisla...ITNDrop=1360-L >>>-- >>>FRH >> Well, I can't wait for the big one when Leftyfornia falls into the ocean >> then they will sue mother nature for not providing any warning. >> >> Coasty > > Sadly, Kalifornia is NOT falling into the ocean as is popularly believed. > It is really rising up out of the ocean, with a drop in the central valley > similar. Similar to the current Sierras and Great Basin to the east of > them. Kalifornia's new big mountain range will run thru Santa Cruz area > and Sackatomato may be below sea level and the new west coast will be > somewhere out west of Catalina and the Farallons. Maybe the volcanos that > will result can be sued for all their sulfur emissions. > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
> Here you would be able to sue yourself for nor suing them.
> Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
> Here you would be able to sue yourself for nor suing them.
> Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
> Here you would be able to sue yourself for nor suing them.
> Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
No, I don't think we do. Even better we have this revolutionary system where
if you fail , you are responsible for paying both your own legal costs and the party you were suing. This is an incredibly good way of stopping frivolous lawsuits as you can be rather out of pocket if don't succeed. Dave Milne, Scotland "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:FI6dnRHoeuxv74jYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on > your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get > away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for > incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think > about buying. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
No, I don't think we do. Even better we have this revolutionary system where
if you fail , you are responsible for paying both your own legal costs and the party you were suing. This is an incredibly good way of stopping frivolous lawsuits as you can be rather out of pocket if don't succeed. Dave Milne, Scotland "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:FI6dnRHoeuxv74jYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on > your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get > away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for > incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think > about buying. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
No, I don't think we do. Even better we have this revolutionary system where
if you fail , you are responsible for paying both your own legal costs and the party you were suing. This is an incredibly good way of stopping frivolous lawsuits as you can be rather out of pocket if don't succeed. Dave Milne, Scotland "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message news:FI6dnRHoeuxv74jYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on > your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get > away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for > incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think > about buying. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Lon, I didn't what to use the first word that came to mind out of
respect for you folks and the fact that this is a family group, the word that I did use fit the circumstances. As to what Mr. Lockyear can really do... well how about a nice long vacation in the mountains of Pakistan or Afghanistan and he can tell the Islamofascists that they shouldn't be playing with assault weapons, I'm sure they will give him a very warm reception. The only thing PC about me runs Windows. Jeff DeWitt Lon wrote: > I don't remember him running for guv, but then I try not to encourage > them by voting for them. As far as what Kalifornia can do to themselves > if they don't like the standards, you used the wrong verb, but it would > be politically incorrect on a family group for me to post the correct > one. "find" themselves, yeah, thats it. > > Jeffrey DeWitt proclaimed: > >> I bet he's running for governor. >> >> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >> standards set by the state. >> >> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >> Jeff DeWitt >> >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> >>> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >>> >>> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their >>> murder rate is so high... >>> >>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >>> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >>> >>>> Dave Milne wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>>> >>>>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>>> at the American legal system ! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> DougW >>>> >>> >>> >>> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Lon, I didn't what to use the first word that came to mind out of
respect for you folks and the fact that this is a family group, the word that I did use fit the circumstances. As to what Mr. Lockyear can really do... well how about a nice long vacation in the mountains of Pakistan or Afghanistan and he can tell the Islamofascists that they shouldn't be playing with assault weapons, I'm sure they will give him a very warm reception. The only thing PC about me runs Windows. Jeff DeWitt Lon wrote: > I don't remember him running for guv, but then I try not to encourage > them by voting for them. As far as what Kalifornia can do to themselves > if they don't like the standards, you used the wrong verb, but it would > be politically incorrect on a family group for me to post the correct > one. "find" themselves, yeah, thats it. > > Jeffrey DeWitt proclaimed: > >> I bet he's running for governor. >> >> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >> standards set by the state. >> >> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >> Jeff DeWitt >> >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> >>> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >>> >>> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their >>> murder rate is so high... >>> >>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >>> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >>> >>>> Dave Milne wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>>> >>>>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>>> at the American legal system ! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> DougW >>>> >>> >>> >>> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Lon, I didn't what to use the first word that came to mind out of
respect for you folks and the fact that this is a family group, the word that I did use fit the circumstances. As to what Mr. Lockyear can really do... well how about a nice long vacation in the mountains of Pakistan or Afghanistan and he can tell the Islamofascists that they shouldn't be playing with assault weapons, I'm sure they will give him a very warm reception. The only thing PC about me runs Windows. Jeff DeWitt Lon wrote: > I don't remember him running for guv, but then I try not to encourage > them by voting for them. As far as what Kalifornia can do to themselves > if they don't like the standards, you used the wrong verb, but it would > be politically incorrect on a family group for me to post the correct > one. "find" themselves, yeah, thats it. > > Jeffrey DeWitt proclaimed: > >> I bet he's running for governor. >> >> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >> standards set by the state. >> >> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >> Jeff DeWitt >> >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> >>> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >>> >>> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their >>> murder rate is so high... >>> >>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >>> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >>> >>>> Dave Milne wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>>> >>>>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>>> at the American legal system ! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> DougW >>>> >>> >>> >>> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Excellent system, one which we ought to adopt right away.
Jeff DeWitt Dave Milne wrote: > No, I don't think we do. Even better we have this revolutionary system where > if you fail , you are responsible for paying both your own legal costs and > the party you were suing. This is an incredibly good way of stopping > frivolous lawsuits as you can be rather out of pocket if don't succeed. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:FI6dnRHoeuxv74jYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > >>You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on >>your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get >>away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for >>incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think >>about buying. > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Excellent system, one which we ought to adopt right away.
Jeff DeWitt Dave Milne wrote: > No, I don't think we do. Even better we have this revolutionary system where > if you fail , you are responsible for paying both your own legal costs and > the party you were suing. This is an incredibly good way of stopping > frivolous lawsuits as you can be rather out of pocket if don't succeed. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:FI6dnRHoeuxv74jYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > >>You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on >>your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get >>away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for >>incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think >>about buying. > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Excellent system, one which we ought to adopt right away.
Jeff DeWitt Dave Milne wrote: > No, I don't think we do. Even better we have this revolutionary system where > if you fail , you are responsible for paying both your own legal costs and > the party you were suing. This is an incredibly good way of stopping > frivolous lawsuits as you can be rather out of pocket if don't succeed. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:FI6dnRHoeuxv74jYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > >>You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on >>your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get >>away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for >>incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think >>about buying. > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
We have that rule in Colorado, but you have to prove that your opponent
filed a frivolous claim or defense in order to invoke it. In practice most litigants will offer to settle once you demonstrate to them, that they are unlikely to win. And when you get to that point, then you are expected to offer them a chance to back out. There are rules like this at the Federal level too, but most lawyers and even pro se litigants know when to give up a losing case before having to pay penalties. Judges tend to take a dim view of overly aggressive plaintiffs and defendants too. The trouble with tort reform is that there is always someone with a legitimate beef, and you can't prevent that person from complaining, if you want to maintain some semblance of human rights in your system. The bad side to this is that if you want to harass people with frivolous claims, then there is little that can be done in a fair system to stop you. Earle "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:rWhRg.18350$Qg.11628@southeast.rr.com... > Excellent system, one which we ought to adopt right away. > > Jeff DeWitt > > Dave Milne wrote: > > No, I don't think we do. Even better we have this revolutionary system where > > if you fail , you are responsible for paying both your own legal costs and > > the party you were suing. This is an incredibly good way of stopping > > frivolous lawsuits as you can be rather out of pocket if don't succeed. > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:FI6dnRHoeuxv74jYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > > >>You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on > >>your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get > >>away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for > >>incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think > >>about buying. > > > > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
We have that rule in Colorado, but you have to prove that your opponent
filed a frivolous claim or defense in order to invoke it. In practice most litigants will offer to settle once you demonstrate to them, that they are unlikely to win. And when you get to that point, then you are expected to offer them a chance to back out. There are rules like this at the Federal level too, but most lawyers and even pro se litigants know when to give up a losing case before having to pay penalties. Judges tend to take a dim view of overly aggressive plaintiffs and defendants too. The trouble with tort reform is that there is always someone with a legitimate beef, and you can't prevent that person from complaining, if you want to maintain some semblance of human rights in your system. The bad side to this is that if you want to harass people with frivolous claims, then there is little that can be done in a fair system to stop you. Earle "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:rWhRg.18350$Qg.11628@southeast.rr.com... > Excellent system, one which we ought to adopt right away. > > Jeff DeWitt > > Dave Milne wrote: > > No, I don't think we do. Even better we have this revolutionary system where > > if you fail , you are responsible for paying both your own legal costs and > > the party you were suing. This is an incredibly good way of stopping > > frivolous lawsuits as you can be rather out of pocket if don't succeed. > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:FI6dnRHoeuxv74jYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > > >>You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on > >>your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get > >>away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for > >>incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think > >>about buying. > > > > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
We have that rule in Colorado, but you have to prove that your opponent
filed a frivolous claim or defense in order to invoke it. In practice most litigants will offer to settle once you demonstrate to them, that they are unlikely to win. And when you get to that point, then you are expected to offer them a chance to back out. There are rules like this at the Federal level too, but most lawyers and even pro se litigants know when to give up a losing case before having to pay penalties. Judges tend to take a dim view of overly aggressive plaintiffs and defendants too. The trouble with tort reform is that there is always someone with a legitimate beef, and you can't prevent that person from complaining, if you want to maintain some semblance of human rights in your system. The bad side to this is that if you want to harass people with frivolous claims, then there is little that can be done in a fair system to stop you. Earle "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:rWhRg.18350$Qg.11628@southeast.rr.com... > Excellent system, one which we ought to adopt right away. > > Jeff DeWitt > > Dave Milne wrote: > > No, I don't think we do. Even better we have this revolutionary system where > > if you fail , you are responsible for paying both your own legal costs and > > the party you were suing. This is an incredibly good way of stopping > > frivolous lawsuits as you can be rather out of pocket if don't succeed. > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:FI6dnRHoeuxv74jYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > > >>You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on > >>your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get > >>away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for > >>incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think > >>about buying. > > > > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, HondaandNissan for emissions
http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/vig_0...ire_prop87.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Lon wrote: > > That's nothing, wait until you see what the greenies are trying to do to > drive the price of gasoline into triple digits per gallon in Kalifornia. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, HondaandNissan for emissions
http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/vig_0...ire_prop87.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Lon wrote: > > That's nothing, wait until you see what the greenies are trying to do to > drive the price of gasoline into triple digits per gallon in Kalifornia. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, HondaandNissan for emissions
http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/vig_0...ire_prop87.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Lon wrote: > > That's nothing, wait until you see what the greenies are trying to do to > drive the price of gasoline into triple digits per gallon in Kalifornia. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda andNissan for emissions
Please Urge California Governor Schwarzenegger to Veto Anti-Gun Bills!
SB 59, sponsored by Senator Alan Lowenthal (D-27), and AB 2714, sponsored by Assembly Member Alberto Torrico (D-20), are heading to the desk of Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (R). Please contact Governor Schwarzenegger today and urge him to protect your Second Amendment freedom by vetoing SB 59 and AB 2714. Governor Schwarzenegger can be reached by phone at (916)-445-2841, by fax at (916) 445-4633, and by e-mail by visiting www.govmail.ca.gov. Read More: http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=2433 -- God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ billy ray wrote: > > Nope AlGore, Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Teddy, and Hilary say only people... ahhh > Americans.... well... non Demoncrats are responsible for all the pollution > that has ever existed and every climactic change that has ever occurred. > > Al Sharpton says it was all the doing of the 'white man' and the 'Blue eyed > devils.' > > I am unsure why they is reluctant to give the exact name of the person that > causes the Ice Ages on a regular basis or just exactly who it was that > hunted down (with his Jeep) and killed (with a legally registered and > licensed handgun) the last of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda andNissan for emissions
Please Urge California Governor Schwarzenegger to Veto Anti-Gun Bills!
SB 59, sponsored by Senator Alan Lowenthal (D-27), and AB 2714, sponsored by Assembly Member Alberto Torrico (D-20), are heading to the desk of Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (R). Please contact Governor Schwarzenegger today and urge him to protect your Second Amendment freedom by vetoing SB 59 and AB 2714. Governor Schwarzenegger can be reached by phone at (916)-445-2841, by fax at (916) 445-4633, and by e-mail by visiting www.govmail.ca.gov. Read More: http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=2433 -- God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ billy ray wrote: > > Nope AlGore, Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Teddy, and Hilary say only people... ahhh > Americans.... well... non Demoncrats are responsible for all the pollution > that has ever existed and every climactic change that has ever occurred. > > Al Sharpton says it was all the doing of the 'white man' and the 'Blue eyed > devils.' > > I am unsure why they is reluctant to give the exact name of the person that > causes the Ice Ages on a regular basis or just exactly who it was that > hunted down (with his Jeep) and killed (with a legally registered and > licensed handgun) the last of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda andNissan for emissions
Please Urge California Governor Schwarzenegger to Veto Anti-Gun Bills!
SB 59, sponsored by Senator Alan Lowenthal (D-27), and AB 2714, sponsored by Assembly Member Alberto Torrico (D-20), are heading to the desk of Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (R). Please contact Governor Schwarzenegger today and urge him to protect your Second Amendment freedom by vetoing SB 59 and AB 2714. Governor Schwarzenegger can be reached by phone at (916)-445-2841, by fax at (916) 445-4633, and by e-mail by visiting www.govmail.ca.gov. Read More: http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=2433 -- God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ billy ray wrote: > > Nope AlGore, Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Teddy, and Hilary say only people... ahhh > Americans.... well... non Demoncrats are responsible for all the pollution > that has ever existed and every climactic change that has ever occurred. > > Al Sharpton says it was all the doing of the 'white man' and the 'Blue eyed > devils.' > > I am unsure why they is reluctant to give the exact name of the person that > causes the Ice Ages on a regular basis or just exactly who it was that > hunted down (with his Jeep) and killed (with a legally registered and > licensed handgun) the last of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda andNissan for emissions
http://www.----------.com/blame/index.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Dave Milne wrote: > > Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip on > the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement or > your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a couple > of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the > payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against > everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so > scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip is > cancelled. And so on and so forth.. > > Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda andNissan for emissions
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God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Dave Milne wrote: > > Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip on > the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement or > your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a couple > of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the > payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against > everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so > scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip is > cancelled. And so on and so forth.. > > Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda andNissan for emissions
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God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- Dave Milne wrote: > > Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip on > the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement or > your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a couple > of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the > payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against > everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so > scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip is > cancelled. And so on and so forth.. > > Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:11b27$45157359$422afc51$17834@FUSE.NET... > Nope AlGore, Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Teddy, and Hilary say only people... > ahhh Americans.... well... non Demoncrats are responsible for all the > pollution that has ever existed and every climactic change that has ever > occurred. > Well, no, not really, you've been listening to too much Sean "Pull Facts Out Of My Ass" Hannity. > Al Sharpton says it was all the doing of the 'white man' and the 'Blue > eyed devils.' That's urban poverty, not pollution. :-) > > I am unsure why they is reluctant to give the exact name of the person > that causes the Ice Ages on a regular basis or just exactly who it was > that hunted down (with his Jeep) and killed (with a legally registered and > licensed handgun) the last of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. If you ask Sean, it was probably a lemur that was a direct descendant of Bill Clinton. On second thought, he probably wouldn't say that....that would legitimize evolution. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:11b27$45157359$422afc51$17834@FUSE.NET... > Nope AlGore, Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Teddy, and Hilary say only people... > ahhh Americans.... well... non Demoncrats are responsible for all the > pollution that has ever existed and every climactic change that has ever > occurred. > Well, no, not really, you've been listening to too much Sean "Pull Facts Out Of My Ass" Hannity. > Al Sharpton says it was all the doing of the 'white man' and the 'Blue > eyed devils.' That's urban poverty, not pollution. :-) > > I am unsure why they is reluctant to give the exact name of the person > that causes the Ice Ages on a regular basis or just exactly who it was > that hunted down (with his Jeep) and killed (with a legally registered and > licensed handgun) the last of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. If you ask Sean, it was probably a lemur that was a direct descendant of Bill Clinton. On second thought, he probably wouldn't say that....that would legitimize evolution. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"billy ray" <billy_ray@SPAMfuse.net> wrote in message news:11b27$45157359$422afc51$17834@FUSE.NET... > Nope AlGore, Kerry, Edwards, Dean, Teddy, and Hilary say only people... > ahhh Americans.... well... non Demoncrats are responsible for all the > pollution that has ever existed and every climactic change that has ever > occurred. > Well, no, not really, you've been listening to too much Sean "Pull Facts Out Of My Ass" Hannity. > Al Sharpton says it was all the doing of the 'white man' and the 'Blue > eyed devils.' That's urban poverty, not pollution. :-) > > I am unsure why they is reluctant to give the exact name of the person > that causes the Ice Ages on a regular basis or just exactly who it was > that hunted down (with his Jeep) and killed (with a legally registered and > licensed handgun) the last of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. If you ask Sean, it was probably a lemur that was a direct descendant of Bill Clinton. On second thought, he probably wouldn't say that....that would legitimize evolution. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"So, if I die while my old, wrinkled butt is parked in front of this
computer," Bill, I'm not taking that bet.... "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4515CE50.FC1761A@cox.net... > http://www.----------.com/blame/index.htm > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Dave Milne wrote: >> >> Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip >> on >> the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement >> or >> your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a >> couple >> of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the >> payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against >> everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so >> scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip >> is >> cancelled. And so on and so forth.. >> >> Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"So, if I die while my old, wrinkled butt is parked in front of this
computer," Bill, I'm not taking that bet.... "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4515CE50.FC1761A@cox.net... > http://www.----------.com/blame/index.htm > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Dave Milne wrote: >> >> Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip >> on >> the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement >> or >> your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a >> couple >> of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the >> payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against >> everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so >> scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip >> is >> cancelled. And so on and so forth.. >> >> Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"So, if I die while my old, wrinkled butt is parked in front of this
computer," Bill, I'm not taking that bet.... "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4515CE50.FC1761A@cox.net... > http://www.----------.com/blame/index.htm > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Dave Milne wrote: >> >> Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip >> on >> the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement >> or >> your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a >> couple >> of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the >> payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against >> everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so >> scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip >> is >> cancelled. And so on and so forth.. >> >> Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Lee Iacocca's book "Talking Straight" speaks to the litigous society we live
in (and it was written something like 20 years ago...) the problem in America is twofold: (1) The civil court system makes it easy to sue anyone for anything, without disregard for the facts or the truth. Unlike other countries (Brazil is one, IIRC) where if you sue and lose, not only do you pay for your attorney, you pay for the defendant's attorney, so you better be absolutely sure you have a case before your file suit. (2) The explosion of attorneys in the last 35-40 years have resulted in an increase in the total number of lawsuits because they all gotta eat. You didn't see lawyer adverts until the mid-to-late 80's, now they're everywhere. As the old story goes, there was a small town with one lawyer who was starving. Then another lawyer moved to town, and they both got rich. "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message news:5beRg.23572$r61.11468@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk... > Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip > on > the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement or > your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a > couple > of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the > payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against > everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so > scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip is > cancelled. And so on and so forth.. > > Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. > > "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message > news:451324fc$0$9115$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... >> Dave, >> >> It's called "Anglo-Saxon" common law, isn't it? >> >> Earle > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Lee Iacocca's book "Talking Straight" speaks to the litigous society we live
in (and it was written something like 20 years ago...) the problem in America is twofold: (1) The civil court system makes it easy to sue anyone for anything, without disregard for the facts or the truth. Unlike other countries (Brazil is one, IIRC) where if you sue and lose, not only do you pay for your attorney, you pay for the defendant's attorney, so you better be absolutely sure you have a case before your file suit. (2) The explosion of attorneys in the last 35-40 years have resulted in an increase in the total number of lawsuits because they all gotta eat. You didn't see lawyer adverts until the mid-to-late 80's, now they're everywhere. As the old story goes, there was a small town with one lawyer who was starving. Then another lawyer moved to town, and they both got rich. "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message news:5beRg.23572$r61.11468@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk... > Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip > on > the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement or > your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a > couple > of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the > payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against > everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so > scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip is > cancelled. And so on and so forth.. > > Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. > > "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message > news:451324fc$0$9115$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... >> Dave, >> >> It's called "Anglo-Saxon" common law, isn't it? >> >> Earle > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Lee Iacocca's book "Talking Straight" speaks to the litigous society we live
in (and it was written something like 20 years ago...) the problem in America is twofold: (1) The civil court system makes it easy to sue anyone for anything, without disregard for the facts or the truth. Unlike other countries (Brazil is one, IIRC) where if you sue and lose, not only do you pay for your attorney, you pay for the defendant's attorney, so you better be absolutely sure you have a case before your file suit. (2) The explosion of attorneys in the last 35-40 years have resulted in an increase in the total number of lawsuits because they all gotta eat. You didn't see lawyer adverts until the mid-to-late 80's, now they're everywhere. As the old story goes, there was a small town with one lawyer who was starving. Then another lawyer moved to town, and they both got rich. "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message news:5beRg.23572$r61.11468@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk... > Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip > on > the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement or > your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a > couple > of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the > payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against > everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so > scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip is > cancelled. And so on and so forth.. > > Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. > > "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message > news:451324fc$0$9115$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... >> Dave, >> >> It's called "Anglo-Saxon" common law, isn't it? >> >> Earle > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm > > Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at > the > American legal system ! I live in California, and I think this suit should be thrown out without predjudice. The automakers are compelled to build cars to federal standards, or to state standards if those standards exist and are more stringent than the feds require. For many years we had 49-state and California Cars. Calif cars had different requirements that the feds eventually adopted, or the car makers simply built to the Calif standard to simplify production. Either way, all USA cars are now built to the same standard, and that standard grew out of California rules. California can't come around now and say, you built cars to the standard we demanded, but they still pollute so we're gonna sue. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm > > Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at > the > American legal system ! I live in California, and I think this suit should be thrown out without predjudice. The automakers are compelled to build cars to federal standards, or to state standards if those standards exist and are more stringent than the feds require. For many years we had 49-state and California Cars. Calif cars had different requirements that the feds eventually adopted, or the car makers simply built to the Calif standard to simplify production. Either way, all USA cars are now built to the same standard, and that standard grew out of California rules. California can't come around now and say, you built cars to the standard we demanded, but they still pollute so we're gonna sue. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm > > Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at > the > American legal system ! I live in California, and I think this suit should be thrown out without predjudice. The automakers are compelled to build cars to federal standards, or to state standards if those standards exist and are more stringent than the feds require. For many years we had 49-state and California Cars. Calif cars had different requirements that the feds eventually adopted, or the car makers simply built to the Calif standard to simplify production. Either way, all USA cars are now built to the same standard, and that standard grew out of California rules. California can't come around now and say, you built cars to the standard we demanded, but they still pollute so we're gonna sue. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
In article <P7qdnaybg-ABs4bYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@ez2.net>,
Jeff Strickland <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote: # #"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message #news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk... #> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm #> #> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at #> the #> American legal system ! # # #I live in California, and I think this suit should be thrown out without #predjudice. So the idiots can bring the suit up again? /herb |
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