Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 

sam owens proclaimed:

> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:55:09 GMT, "Dave Milne"
> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
>
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at the
>>American legal system !
>>
>>Dave Milne, Scotland
>>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>
>
> I've been to California twice in 63 and 06 and I can only say that
> California is a special case when it comes to air because of the
> climate, topography, etc and it's about cleaner air. Cleaner air is
> important and I don't give a crap about any of those companies. They
> want my money and loyalty. Those are not the top qualities in my book.
>
> I'd rather they cared about lungs but that ain't gonna happen HA!
>

I've lived in northern and southern california and in a past employer
had as a customer the good folks who monitor air quality around a few
urban areas. Yes, there is a lot of pollution around the freeways, but
the real gross polluters are fixed installations that buy off "pollution
credits" rather than clean up their acts. And are very good at getting
the uninformed to believe that it is really automobiles causing all the
troubles.

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 

My guess would be one of those parties over at the frat houses in
Berkeley where they recently had a few folks fail to realize that you
can overdose on the "special" brownies.

billy ray proclaimed:

> To what party does he belong?

>>He seems like exactly the kind of professional politican we DON'T need, of
>>whatever party.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>
>
>

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 

My guess would be one of those parties over at the frat houses in
Berkeley where they recently had a few folks fail to realize that you
can overdose on the "special" brownies.

billy ray proclaimed:

> To what party does he belong?

>>He seems like exactly the kind of professional politican we DON'T need, of
>>whatever party.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>
>
>

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 

My guess would be one of those parties over at the frat houses in
Berkeley where they recently had a few folks fail to realize that you
can overdose on the "special" brownies.

billy ray proclaimed:

> To what party does he belong?

>>He seems like exactly the kind of professional politican we DON'T need, of
>>whatever party.
>>
>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>
>
>

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 

Jason Backshall proclaimed:

> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
>>the
>>American legal system !
>
>
> Interesting article.
>
> Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
> lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
> people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
> the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the manufacturers?
>
> In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who, though!?


You didn't happen to notice if the "people of california" would ever get
a dime of any settlement? Hah!!!

Haven't been watching that one, the one involving the soap opera of what
happens to company executive teams who *ever* piss off anyone bearing
the family name of the business is so much more interesting as it plays
out. Sadly, more good folks will probably lose their jobs and the
executives will get golden parachutes.

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 

Jason Backshall proclaimed:

> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
>>the
>>American legal system !
>
>
> Interesting article.
>
> Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
> lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
> people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
> the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the manufacturers?
>
> In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who, though!?


You didn't happen to notice if the "people of california" would ever get
a dime of any settlement? Hah!!!

Haven't been watching that one, the one involving the soap opera of what
happens to company executive teams who *ever* piss off anyone bearing
the family name of the business is so much more interesting as it plays
out. Sadly, more good folks will probably lose their jobs and the
executives will get golden parachutes.

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 

Jason Backshall proclaimed:

> "Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
> news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>
>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
>>the
>>American legal system !
>
>
> Interesting article.
>
> Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
> lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
> people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
> the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the manufacturers?
>
> In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who, though!?


You didn't happen to notice if the "people of california" would ever get
a dime of any settlement? Hah!!!

Haven't been watching that one, the one involving the soap opera of what
happens to company executive teams who *ever* piss off anyone bearing
the family name of the business is so much more interesting as it plays
out. Sadly, more good folks will probably lose their jobs and the
executives will get golden parachutes.

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 

Dave Milne proclaimed:

> "Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
> news:45120365$0$13662$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>
>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>>
>>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
>>>the
>>>American legal system !
>>
>>Interesting article.
>>
>>Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
>>lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
>>people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
>>the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the
>
> manufacturers?
>
>>In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who,
>
> though!?
>
> That's the bit I'm marvelling at !
>

You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on
your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get
away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for
incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think
about buying.

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 

Dave Milne proclaimed:

> "Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
> news:45120365$0$13662$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>
>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>>
>>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
>>>the
>>>American legal system !
>>
>>Interesting article.
>>
>>Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
>>lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
>>people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
>>the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the
>
> manufacturers?
>
>>In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who,
>
> though!?
>
> That's the bit I'm marvelling at !
>

You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on
your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get
away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for
incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think
about buying.

Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
 

Dave Milne proclaimed:

> "Jason Backshall" <jas@backshall.id.au> wrote in message
> news:45120365$0$13662$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>
>>"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message
>>news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.c o.uk...
>>
>>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm
>>>
>>>Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at
>>>the
>>>American legal system !
>>
>>Interesting article.
>>
>>Question though - the article makes mention of the fact that the case was
>>lodged by the AG on behalf of the people of California. But if it's the
>>people of Calif. who are actually driving the vehciles and contributing to
>>the global warming - then aren't they as much to blame as the
>
> manufacturers?
>
>>In essence, Calif. should be suing the residents. On behalf of who,
>
> though!?
>
> That's the bit I'm marvelling at !
>

You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on
your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get
away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for
incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think
about buying.