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Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Lon, I didn't what to use the first word that came to mind out of
respect for you folks and the fact that this is a family group, the word that I did use fit the circumstances. As to what Mr. Lockyear can really do... well how about a nice long vacation in the mountains of Pakistan or Afghanistan and he can tell the Islamofascists that they shouldn't be playing with assault weapons, I'm sure they will give him a very warm reception. The only thing PC about me runs Windows. Jeff DeWitt Lon wrote: > I don't remember him running for guv, but then I try not to encourage > them by voting for them. As far as what Kalifornia can do to themselves > if they don't like the standards, you used the wrong verb, but it would > be politically incorrect on a family group for me to post the correct > one. "find" themselves, yeah, thats it. > > Jeffrey DeWitt proclaimed: > >> I bet he's running for governor. >> >> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >> standards set by the state. >> >> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >> Jeff DeWitt >> >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> >>> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >>> >>> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their >>> murder rate is so high... >>> >>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >>> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >>> >>>> Dave Milne wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>>> >>>>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>>> at the American legal system ! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> DougW >>>> >>> >>> >>> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Lon, I didn't what to use the first word that came to mind out of
respect for you folks and the fact that this is a family group, the word that I did use fit the circumstances. As to what Mr. Lockyear can really do... well how about a nice long vacation in the mountains of Pakistan or Afghanistan and he can tell the Islamofascists that they shouldn't be playing with assault weapons, I'm sure they will give him a very warm reception. The only thing PC about me runs Windows. Jeff DeWitt Lon wrote: > I don't remember him running for guv, but then I try not to encourage > them by voting for them. As far as what Kalifornia can do to themselves > if they don't like the standards, you used the wrong verb, but it would > be politically incorrect on a family group for me to post the correct > one. "find" themselves, yeah, thats it. > > Jeffrey DeWitt proclaimed: > >> I bet he's running for governor. >> >> Seems to me the auto makers have a great defense. >> >> Kalifornia sets it's own emission standards, the automakers met the >> standards set by the state. >> >> If Kalifornia doesn't like the standard they should go sue themselves. >> >> Jeff DeWitt >> >> Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> >>> Is the Attorny General of Kalifornia up for re-election this year? >>> >>> Next thing you know they'll sue gun manufacturers because their >>> murder rate is so high... >>> >>> "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message >>> news:c6jQg.1759$iA5.1016@dukeread11... >>> >>>> Dave Milne wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm >>>>> >>>>> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel >>>>> at the American legal system ! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If by marvel you mean laugh them selves silly, then yes, I agree. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> DougW >>>> >>> >>> >>> |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Excellent system, one which we ought to adopt right away.
Jeff DeWitt Dave Milne wrote: > No, I don't think we do. Even better we have this revolutionary system where > if you fail , you are responsible for paying both your own legal costs and > the party you were suing. This is an incredibly good way of stopping > frivolous lawsuits as you can be rather out of pocket if don't succeed. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:FI6dnRHoeuxv74jYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > >>You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on >>your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get >>away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for >>incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think >>about buying. > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Excellent system, one which we ought to adopt right away.
Jeff DeWitt Dave Milne wrote: > No, I don't think we do. Even better we have this revolutionary system where > if you fail , you are responsible for paying both your own legal costs and > the party you were suing. This is an incredibly good way of stopping > frivolous lawsuits as you can be rather out of pocket if don't succeed. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:FI6dnRHoeuxv74jYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > >>You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on >>your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get >>away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for >>incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think >>about buying. > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Hondaand Nissan for emissions
Excellent system, one which we ought to adopt right away.
Jeff DeWitt Dave Milne wrote: > No, I don't think we do. Even better we have this revolutionary system where > if you fail , you are responsible for paying both your own legal costs and > the party you were suing. This is an incredibly good way of stopping > frivolous lawsuits as you can be rather out of pocket if don't succeed. > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:FI6dnRHoeuxv74jYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > >>You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on >>your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get >>away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for >>incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think >>about buying. > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
We have that rule in Colorado, but you have to prove that your opponent
filed a frivolous claim or defense in order to invoke it. In practice most litigants will offer to settle once you demonstrate to them, that they are unlikely to win. And when you get to that point, then you are expected to offer them a chance to back out. There are rules like this at the Federal level too, but most lawyers and even pro se litigants know when to give up a losing case before having to pay penalties. Judges tend to take a dim view of overly aggressive plaintiffs and defendants too. The trouble with tort reform is that there is always someone with a legitimate beef, and you can't prevent that person from complaining, if you want to maintain some semblance of human rights in your system. The bad side to this is that if you want to harass people with frivolous claims, then there is little that can be done in a fair system to stop you. Earle "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:rWhRg.18350$Qg.11628@southeast.rr.com... > Excellent system, one which we ought to adopt right away. > > Jeff DeWitt > > Dave Milne wrote: > > No, I don't think we do. Even better we have this revolutionary system where > > if you fail , you are responsible for paying both your own legal costs and > > the party you were suing. This is an incredibly good way of stopping > > frivolous lawsuits as you can be rather out of pocket if don't succeed. > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:FI6dnRHoeuxv74jYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > > >>You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on > >>your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get > >>away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for > >>incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think > >>about buying. > > > > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
We have that rule in Colorado, but you have to prove that your opponent
filed a frivolous claim or defense in order to invoke it. In practice most litigants will offer to settle once you demonstrate to them, that they are unlikely to win. And when you get to that point, then you are expected to offer them a chance to back out. There are rules like this at the Federal level too, but most lawyers and even pro se litigants know when to give up a losing case before having to pay penalties. Judges tend to take a dim view of overly aggressive plaintiffs and defendants too. The trouble with tort reform is that there is always someone with a legitimate beef, and you can't prevent that person from complaining, if you want to maintain some semblance of human rights in your system. The bad side to this is that if you want to harass people with frivolous claims, then there is little that can be done in a fair system to stop you. Earle "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:rWhRg.18350$Qg.11628@southeast.rr.com... > Excellent system, one which we ought to adopt right away. > > Jeff DeWitt > > Dave Milne wrote: > > No, I don't think we do. Even better we have this revolutionary system where > > if you fail , you are responsible for paying both your own legal costs and > > the party you were suing. This is an incredibly good way of stopping > > frivolous lawsuits as you can be rather out of pocket if don't succeed. > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:FI6dnRHoeuxv74jYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > > >>You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on > >>your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get > >>away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for > >>incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think > >>about buying. > > > > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
We have that rule in Colorado, but you have to prove that your opponent
filed a frivolous claim or defense in order to invoke it. In practice most litigants will offer to settle once you demonstrate to them, that they are unlikely to win. And when you get to that point, then you are expected to offer them a chance to back out. There are rules like this at the Federal level too, but most lawyers and even pro se litigants know when to give up a losing case before having to pay penalties. Judges tend to take a dim view of overly aggressive plaintiffs and defendants too. The trouble with tort reform is that there is always someone with a legitimate beef, and you can't prevent that person from complaining, if you want to maintain some semblance of human rights in your system. The bad side to this is that if you want to harass people with frivolous claims, then there is little that can be done in a fair system to stop you. Earle "Jeffrey DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message news:rWhRg.18350$Qg.11628@southeast.rr.com... > Excellent system, one which we ought to adopt right away. > > Jeff DeWitt > > Dave Milne wrote: > > No, I don't think we do. Even better we have this revolutionary system where > > if you fail , you are responsible for paying both your own legal costs and > > the party you were suing. This is an incredibly good way of stopping > > frivolous lawsuits as you can be rather out of pocket if don't succeed. > > > > Dave Milne, Scotland > > > > "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message > > news:FI6dnRHoeuxv74jYnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com. .. > > > > > >>You folks have class action lawsuits? Some lawyer can sue someone on > >>your behalf and unless you explicitly refuse to be a party, they get > >>away with it and a fat legal fee and you get a free coupon for > >>incredibly tiny discounts on Microsoft products you wouldn't even think > >>about buying. > > > > > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, HondaandNissan for emissions
http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/vig_0...ire_prop87.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Lon wrote: > > That's nothing, wait until you see what the greenies are trying to do to > drive the price of gasoline into triple digits per gallon in Kalifornia. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, HondaandNissan for emissions
http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/vig_0...ire_prop87.pdf
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ Lon wrote: > > That's nothing, wait until you see what the greenies are trying to do to > drive the price of gasoline into triple digits per gallon in Kalifornia. |
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