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Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"So, if I die while my old, wrinkled butt is parked in front of this
computer," Bill, I'm not taking that bet.... "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4515CE50.FC1761A@cox.net... > http://www.----------.com/blame/index.htm > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Dave Milne wrote: >> >> Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip >> on >> the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement >> or >> your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a >> couple >> of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the >> payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against >> everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so >> scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip >> is >> cancelled. And so on and so forth.. >> >> Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"So, if I die while my old, wrinkled butt is parked in front of this
computer," Bill, I'm not taking that bet.... "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4515CE50.FC1761A@cox.net... > http://www.----------.com/blame/index.htm > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Dave Milne wrote: >> >> Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip >> on >> the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement >> or >> your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a >> couple >> of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the >> payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against >> everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so >> scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip >> is >> cancelled. And so on and so forth.. >> >> Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"So, if I die while my old, wrinkled butt is parked in front of this
computer," Bill, I'm not taking that bet.... "L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message news:4515CE50.FC1761A@cox.net... > http://www.----------.com/blame/index.htm > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O > mailto:-------------------- > > Dave Milne wrote: >> >> Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip >> on >> the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement >> or >> your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a >> couple >> of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the >> payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against >> everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so >> scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip >> is >> cancelled. And so on and so forth.. >> >> Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Lee Iacocca's book "Talking Straight" speaks to the litigous society we live
in (and it was written something like 20 years ago...) the problem in America is twofold: (1) The civil court system makes it easy to sue anyone for anything, without disregard for the facts or the truth. Unlike other countries (Brazil is one, IIRC) where if you sue and lose, not only do you pay for your attorney, you pay for the defendant's attorney, so you better be absolutely sure you have a case before your file suit. (2) The explosion of attorneys in the last 35-40 years have resulted in an increase in the total number of lawsuits because they all gotta eat. You didn't see lawyer adverts until the mid-to-late 80's, now they're everywhere. As the old story goes, there was a small town with one lawyer who was starving. Then another lawyer moved to town, and they both got rich. "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message news:5beRg.23572$r61.11468@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk... > Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip > on > the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement or > your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a > couple > of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the > payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against > everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so > scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip is > cancelled. And so on and so forth.. > > Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. > > "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message > news:451324fc$0$9115$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... >> Dave, >> >> It's called "Anglo-Saxon" common law, isn't it? >> >> Earle > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Lee Iacocca's book "Talking Straight" speaks to the litigous society we live
in (and it was written something like 20 years ago...) the problem in America is twofold: (1) The civil court system makes it easy to sue anyone for anything, without disregard for the facts or the truth. Unlike other countries (Brazil is one, IIRC) where if you sue and lose, not only do you pay for your attorney, you pay for the defendant's attorney, so you better be absolutely sure you have a case before your file suit. (2) The explosion of attorneys in the last 35-40 years have resulted in an increase in the total number of lawsuits because they all gotta eat. You didn't see lawyer adverts until the mid-to-late 80's, now they're everywhere. As the old story goes, there was a small town with one lawyer who was starving. Then another lawyer moved to town, and they both got rich. "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message news:5beRg.23572$r61.11468@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk... > Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip > on > the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement or > your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a > couple > of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the > payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against > everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so > scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip is > cancelled. And so on and so forth.. > > Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. > > "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message > news:451324fc$0$9115$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... >> Dave, >> >> It's called "Anglo-Saxon" common law, isn't it? >> >> Earle > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
Lee Iacocca's book "Talking Straight" speaks to the litigous society we live
in (and it was written something like 20 years ago...) the problem in America is twofold: (1) The civil court system makes it easy to sue anyone for anything, without disregard for the facts or the truth. Unlike other countries (Brazil is one, IIRC) where if you sue and lose, not only do you pay for your attorney, you pay for the defendant's attorney, so you better be absolutely sure you have a case before your file suit. (2) The explosion of attorneys in the last 35-40 years have resulted in an increase in the total number of lawsuits because they all gotta eat. You didn't see lawyer adverts until the mid-to-late 80's, now they're everywhere. As the old story goes, there was a small town with one lawyer who was starving. Then another lawyer moved to town, and they both got rich. "Dave Milne" <jeep@_removethisbit_milne.info> wrote in message news:5beRg.23572$r61.11468@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk... > Well yes, but it comes down to the reasonableness of society. If you trip > on > the pavement, is that the councils fault for providing a bumpy pavement or > your fault for not looking where you were going ? If the payout is a > couple > of quid, it doesn't really matter either way. The problem is that if the > payout is in the millions people feel compelled to try to insure against > everything. Kids don't get school trips so often now - the schools are so > scared of a kid injuring themselves on a hillwalking trip that the trip is > cancelled. And so on and so forth.. > > Dave "His fault if he falls over" Milne. > > "Earle Horton" <anglocapitalista@usa.com> wrote in message > news:451324fc$0$9115$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m... >> Dave, >> >> It's called "Anglo-Saxon" common law, isn't it? >> >> Earle > > |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm > > Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at > the > American legal system ! I live in California, and I think this suit should be thrown out without predjudice. The automakers are compelled to build cars to federal standards, or to state standards if those standards exist and are more stringent than the feds require. For many years we had 49-state and California Cars. Calif cars had different requirements that the feds eventually adopted, or the car makers simply built to the Calif standard to simplify production. Either way, all USA cars are now built to the same standard, and that standard grew out of California rules. California can't come around now and say, you built cars to the standard we demanded, but they still pollute so we're gonna sue. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm > > Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at > the > American legal system ! I live in California, and I think this suit should be thrown out without predjudice. The automakers are compelled to build cars to federal standards, or to state standards if those standards exist and are more stringent than the feds require. For many years we had 49-state and California Cars. Calif cars had different requirements that the feds eventually adopted, or the car makers simply built to the Calif standard to simplify production. Either way, all USA cars are now built to the same standard, and that standard grew out of California rules. California can't come around now and say, you built cars to the standard we demanded, but they still pollute so we're gonna sue. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm > > Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at > the > American legal system ! I live in California, and I think this suit should be thrown out without predjudice. The automakers are compelled to build cars to federal standards, or to state standards if those standards exist and are more stringent than the feds require. For many years we had 49-state and California Cars. Calif cars had different requirements that the feds eventually adopted, or the car makers simply built to the Calif standard to simplify production. Either way, all USA cars are now built to the same standard, and that standard grew out of California rules. California can't come around now and say, you built cars to the standard we demanded, but they still pollute so we're gonna sue. |
Re: California sues Ford, General Motors, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Nissan for emissions
In article <P7qdnaybg-ABs4bYnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@ez2.net>,
Jeff Strickland <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote: # #"Dave Milne" <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote in message #news:1NiQg.22239$r61.7174@text.news.blueyonder.co .uk... #> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5365672.stm #> #> Once again the rest of the world will scratch their heads and marvel at #> the #> American legal system ! # # #I live in California, and I think this suit should be thrown out without #predjudice. So the idiots can bring the suit up again? /herb |
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