Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
#221
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Jeep Wrangler Owners Manual.
I have one and it states:
"Trailer Towing Requirements:
Class I Hitch (Light Duty) for towing trailers with a Gross Trailer Weight
of up to and not exceeding 2,000 lbs. (907kg).
2.5L, engine with 5-speed Manual or any 4.0L engine / transmission
combination.
CAUTION!
Do not use a bumper mounted clamp-on tow bar on your vehicle. The bumper
face bar will be damaged."
Nuff said!
Tom
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:d864$43dfcd6b$4831b233$19390@FUSE.NET...
> The link below is to a page in the Florida Fish and Wildlife
> Conservation website. I will assume, with the known limitations therein,
> that it may be taken as an 'official" publication
>
> Please see paragraphs 4 & 5 in section 1
> Please see paragraph 5 in section 2
> Please see illustration 2
> http://www.boat-ed.com/fl/course/p2-4_trailering.htm
>
> You hitch design may be legal in Florida.... assuming that you can get the
> data from the DC engineering departments for "the weight rating of the
> bumper. "
>
> However the factory manual shows the only approved (by DC) methods of
> attaching a towbar. In my XJ manual it is section 13 pages 7 & 8.
>
> Does someone have a Wrangler manual that can check and post the
appropriate
> pages in the Frames & Bumpers section?
I have one and it states:
"Trailer Towing Requirements:
Class I Hitch (Light Duty) for towing trailers with a Gross Trailer Weight
of up to and not exceeding 2,000 lbs. (907kg).
2.5L, engine with 5-speed Manual or any 4.0L engine / transmission
combination.
CAUTION!
Do not use a bumper mounted clamp-on tow bar on your vehicle. The bumper
face bar will be damaged."
Nuff said!
Tom
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:d864$43dfcd6b$4831b233$19390@FUSE.NET...
> The link below is to a page in the Florida Fish and Wildlife
> Conservation website. I will assume, with the known limitations therein,
> that it may be taken as an 'official" publication
>
> Please see paragraphs 4 & 5 in section 1
> Please see paragraph 5 in section 2
> Please see illustration 2
> http://www.boat-ed.com/fl/course/p2-4_trailering.htm
>
> You hitch design may be legal in Florida.... assuming that you can get the
> data from the DC engineering departments for "the weight rating of the
> bumper. "
>
> However the factory manual shows the only approved (by DC) methods of
> attaching a towbar. In my XJ manual it is section 13 pages 7 & 8.
>
> Does someone have a Wrangler manual that can check and post the
appropriate
> pages in the Frames & Bumpers section?
#222
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Jeep Wrangler Owners Manual.
I have one and it states:
"Trailer Towing Requirements:
Class I Hitch (Light Duty) for towing trailers with a Gross Trailer Weight
of up to and not exceeding 2,000 lbs. (907kg).
2.5L, engine with 5-speed Manual or any 4.0L engine / transmission
combination.
CAUTION!
Do not use a bumper mounted clamp-on tow bar on your vehicle. The bumper
face bar will be damaged."
Nuff said!
Tom
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:d864$43dfcd6b$4831b233$19390@FUSE.NET...
> The link below is to a page in the Florida Fish and Wildlife
> Conservation website. I will assume, with the known limitations therein,
> that it may be taken as an 'official" publication
>
> Please see paragraphs 4 & 5 in section 1
> Please see paragraph 5 in section 2
> Please see illustration 2
> http://www.boat-ed.com/fl/course/p2-4_trailering.htm
>
> You hitch design may be legal in Florida.... assuming that you can get the
> data from the DC engineering departments for "the weight rating of the
> bumper. "
>
> However the factory manual shows the only approved (by DC) methods of
> attaching a towbar. In my XJ manual it is section 13 pages 7 & 8.
>
> Does someone have a Wrangler manual that can check and post the
appropriate
> pages in the Frames & Bumpers section?
I have one and it states:
"Trailer Towing Requirements:
Class I Hitch (Light Duty) for towing trailers with a Gross Trailer Weight
of up to and not exceeding 2,000 lbs. (907kg).
2.5L, engine with 5-speed Manual or any 4.0L engine / transmission
combination.
CAUTION!
Do not use a bumper mounted clamp-on tow bar on your vehicle. The bumper
face bar will be damaged."
Nuff said!
Tom
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:d864$43dfcd6b$4831b233$19390@FUSE.NET...
> The link below is to a page in the Florida Fish and Wildlife
> Conservation website. I will assume, with the known limitations therein,
> that it may be taken as an 'official" publication
>
> Please see paragraphs 4 & 5 in section 1
> Please see paragraph 5 in section 2
> Please see illustration 2
> http://www.boat-ed.com/fl/course/p2-4_trailering.htm
>
> You hitch design may be legal in Florida.... assuming that you can get the
> data from the DC engineering departments for "the weight rating of the
> bumper. "
>
> However the factory manual shows the only approved (by DC) methods of
> attaching a towbar. In my XJ manual it is section 13 pages 7 & 8.
>
> Does someone have a Wrangler manual that can check and post the
appropriate
> pages in the Frames & Bumpers section?
#223
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Jeep Wrangler Owners Manual.
I have one and it states:
"Trailer Towing Requirements:
Class I Hitch (Light Duty) for towing trailers with a Gross Trailer Weight
of up to and not exceeding 2,000 lbs. (907kg).
2.5L, engine with 5-speed Manual or any 4.0L engine / transmission
combination.
CAUTION!
Do not use a bumper mounted clamp-on tow bar on your vehicle. The bumper
face bar will be damaged."
Nuff said!
Tom
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:d864$43dfcd6b$4831b233$19390@FUSE.NET...
> The link below is to a page in the Florida Fish and Wildlife
> Conservation website. I will assume, with the known limitations therein,
> that it may be taken as an 'official" publication
>
> Please see paragraphs 4 & 5 in section 1
> Please see paragraph 5 in section 2
> Please see illustration 2
> http://www.boat-ed.com/fl/course/p2-4_trailering.htm
>
> You hitch design may be legal in Florida.... assuming that you can get the
> data from the DC engineering departments for "the weight rating of the
> bumper. "
>
> However the factory manual shows the only approved (by DC) methods of
> attaching a towbar. In my XJ manual it is section 13 pages 7 & 8.
>
> Does someone have a Wrangler manual that can check and post the
appropriate
> pages in the Frames & Bumpers section?
I have one and it states:
"Trailer Towing Requirements:
Class I Hitch (Light Duty) for towing trailers with a Gross Trailer Weight
of up to and not exceeding 2,000 lbs. (907kg).
2.5L, engine with 5-speed Manual or any 4.0L engine / transmission
combination.
CAUTION!
Do not use a bumper mounted clamp-on tow bar on your vehicle. The bumper
face bar will be damaged."
Nuff said!
Tom
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:d864$43dfcd6b$4831b233$19390@FUSE.NET...
> The link below is to a page in the Florida Fish and Wildlife
> Conservation website. I will assume, with the known limitations therein,
> that it may be taken as an 'official" publication
>
> Please see paragraphs 4 & 5 in section 1
> Please see paragraph 5 in section 2
> Please see illustration 2
> http://www.boat-ed.com/fl/course/p2-4_trailering.htm
>
> You hitch design may be legal in Florida.... assuming that you can get the
> data from the DC engineering departments for "the weight rating of the
> bumper. "
>
> However the factory manual shows the only approved (by DC) methods of
> attaching a towbar. In my XJ manual it is section 13 pages 7 & 8.
>
> Does someone have a Wrangler manual that can check and post the
appropriate
> pages in the Frames & Bumpers section?
#224
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Nobody will claim you need 1/2" steel for your hitch. However, engineering
is usually about designing in safety margins to ensure people don't get
hurt. Your tyres are engineered to take a much greater load than is applied
by your Jeep, for example.
So the rest is philosophy ; given it won't fall off in an ideal situation -
how much of a safety margin are you prepared to begrudgingly spend your
cents on ? I guess the answer is "less than anyone else".
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9759AEC046009someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> I am an engineer.
>
> I define engineering as the economical application of scientific
> knowledge to a physical application.
>
> To "plan for the worse" is not engineering, if the worst is not worth
> planning for.
is usually about designing in safety margins to ensure people don't get
hurt. Your tyres are engineered to take a much greater load than is applied
by your Jeep, for example.
So the rest is philosophy ; given it won't fall off in an ideal situation -
how much of a safety margin are you prepared to begrudgingly spend your
cents on ? I guess the answer is "less than anyone else".
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9759AEC046009someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> I am an engineer.
>
> I define engineering as the economical application of scientific
> knowledge to a physical application.
>
> To "plan for the worse" is not engineering, if the worst is not worth
> planning for.
#225
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Nobody will claim you need 1/2" steel for your hitch. However, engineering
is usually about designing in safety margins to ensure people don't get
hurt. Your tyres are engineered to take a much greater load than is applied
by your Jeep, for example.
So the rest is philosophy ; given it won't fall off in an ideal situation -
how much of a safety margin are you prepared to begrudgingly spend your
cents on ? I guess the answer is "less than anyone else".
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9759AEC046009someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> I am an engineer.
>
> I define engineering as the economical application of scientific
> knowledge to a physical application.
>
> To "plan for the worse" is not engineering, if the worst is not worth
> planning for.
is usually about designing in safety margins to ensure people don't get
hurt. Your tyres are engineered to take a much greater load than is applied
by your Jeep, for example.
So the rest is philosophy ; given it won't fall off in an ideal situation -
how much of a safety margin are you prepared to begrudgingly spend your
cents on ? I guess the answer is "less than anyone else".
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9759AEC046009someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> I am an engineer.
>
> I define engineering as the economical application of scientific
> knowledge to a physical application.
>
> To "plan for the worse" is not engineering, if the worst is not worth
> planning for.
#226
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Nobody will claim you need 1/2" steel for your hitch. However, engineering
is usually about designing in safety margins to ensure people don't get
hurt. Your tyres are engineered to take a much greater load than is applied
by your Jeep, for example.
So the rest is philosophy ; given it won't fall off in an ideal situation -
how much of a safety margin are you prepared to begrudgingly spend your
cents on ? I guess the answer is "less than anyone else".
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9759AEC046009someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> I am an engineer.
>
> I define engineering as the economical application of scientific
> knowledge to a physical application.
>
> To "plan for the worse" is not engineering, if the worst is not worth
> planning for.
is usually about designing in safety margins to ensure people don't get
hurt. Your tyres are engineered to take a much greater load than is applied
by your Jeep, for example.
So the rest is philosophy ; given it won't fall off in an ideal situation -
how much of a safety margin are you prepared to begrudgingly spend your
cents on ? I guess the answer is "less than anyone else".
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9759AEC046009someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> I am an engineer.
>
> I define engineering as the economical application of scientific
> knowledge to a physical application.
>
> To "plan for the worse" is not engineering, if the worst is not worth
> planning for.
#227
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
billy ray writes:
> No, but the jury is going to
> send you to prison anyway because they won't understand why the industry
> standard is 10x and yours wasn't.
Nonsense. FS 316.530 is a "noncriminal traffic infraction."
Yeah, horrible accidents happen. The weak-hitch-equals-death analysis
makes a pleasant fictional scene, but unconvincing as to reality.
> No, but the jury is going to
> send you to prison anyway because they won't understand why the industry
> standard is 10x and yours wasn't.
Nonsense. FS 316.530 is a "noncriminal traffic infraction."
Yeah, horrible accidents happen. The weak-hitch-equals-death analysis
makes a pleasant fictional scene, but unconvincing as to reality.
#228
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
billy ray writes:
> No, but the jury is going to
> send you to prison anyway because they won't understand why the industry
> standard is 10x and yours wasn't.
Nonsense. FS 316.530 is a "noncriminal traffic infraction."
Yeah, horrible accidents happen. The weak-hitch-equals-death analysis
makes a pleasant fictional scene, but unconvincing as to reality.
> No, but the jury is going to
> send you to prison anyway because they won't understand why the industry
> standard is 10x and yours wasn't.
Nonsense. FS 316.530 is a "noncriminal traffic infraction."
Yeah, horrible accidents happen. The weak-hitch-equals-death analysis
makes a pleasant fictional scene, but unconvincing as to reality.
#229
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
billy ray writes:
> No, but the jury is going to
> send you to prison anyway because they won't understand why the industry
> standard is 10x and yours wasn't.
Nonsense. FS 316.530 is a "noncriminal traffic infraction."
Yeah, horrible accidents happen. The weak-hitch-equals-death analysis
makes a pleasant fictional scene, but unconvincing as to reality.
> No, but the jury is going to
> send you to prison anyway because they won't understand why the industry
> standard is 10x and yours wasn't.
Nonsense. FS 316.530 is a "noncriminal traffic infraction."
Yeah, horrible accidents happen. The weak-hitch-equals-death analysis
makes a pleasant fictional scene, but unconvincing as to reality.
#230
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Yes the frame of a Real Jeep is engineered like a commercial truck,
using all channel frame and rivets for full flexibility, like a
commerical truck: http://www.----------.com/kenworthframe.jpg And of
uses struts to reniforce the hitch area:
http://www.----------.com/CJ2Frame2.jpg For a clean look:
http://www.----------.com/temp/46JeepRear.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Nobody will claim you need 1/2" steel for your hitch. However, engineering
> is usually about designing in safety margins to ensure people don't get
> hurt. Your tyres are engineered to take a much greater load than is applied
> by your Jeep, for example.
>
> So the rest is philosophy ; given it won't fall off in an ideal situation -
> how much of a safety margin are you prepared to begrudgingly spend your
> cents on ? I guess the answer is "less than anyone else".
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9759AEC046009someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> > I am an engineer.
> >
> > I define engineering as the economical application of scientific
> > knowledge to a physical application.
> >
> > To "plan for the worse" is not engineering, if the worst is not worth
> > planning for.
using all channel frame and rivets for full flexibility, like a
commerical truck: http://www.----------.com/kenworthframe.jpg And of
uses struts to reniforce the hitch area:
http://www.----------.com/CJ2Frame2.jpg For a clean look:
http://www.----------.com/temp/46JeepRear.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Dave Milne wrote:
>
> Nobody will claim you need 1/2" steel for your hitch. However, engineering
> is usually about designing in safety margins to ensure people don't get
> hurt. Your tyres are engineered to take a much greater load than is applied
> by your Jeep, for example.
>
> So the rest is philosophy ; given it won't fall off in an ideal situation -
> how much of a safety margin are you prepared to begrudgingly spend your
> cents on ? I guess the answer is "less than anyone else".
>
> Dave Milne, Scotland
> '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
> "Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9759AEC046009someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> > I am an engineer.
> >
> > I define engineering as the economical application of scientific
> > knowledge to a physical application.
> >
> > To "plan for the worse" is not engineering, if the worst is not worth
> > planning for.