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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >> - Show quoted text - > > > UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT > > included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced. > > That fits with the symptoms. > > Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding > up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator, release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service. |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT > > > included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced. > > > That fits with the symptoms. > > > Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding > > up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft. > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding > everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to > be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what > about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator, > release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be > replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be > replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that > I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Mike -- Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to manufacturing mine. |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT > > > included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced. > > > That fits with the symptoms. > > > Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding > > up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft. > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding > everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to > be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what > about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator, > release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be > replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be > replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that > I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Mike -- Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to manufacturing mine. |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT > > > included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced. > > > That fits with the symptoms. > > > Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding > > up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft. > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding > everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to > be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what > about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator, > release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be > replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be > replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that > I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Mike -- Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to manufacturing mine. |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT > > > included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced. > > > That fits with the symptoms. > > > Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding > > up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft. > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding > everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to > be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what > about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator, > release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be > replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be > replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that > I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Mike -- Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to manufacturing mine. |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote: >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced. >>> That fits with the symptoms. >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft. >>> Mike >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator, >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > Mike -- > > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to > manufacturing mine. > Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad. If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit. Mike |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote: >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced. >>> That fits with the symptoms. >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft. >>> Mike >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator, >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > Mike -- > > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to > manufacturing mine. > Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad. If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit. Mike |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote: >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced. >>> That fits with the symptoms. >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft. >>> Mike >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator, >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > Mike -- > > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to > manufacturing mine. > Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad. If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit. Mike |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote: >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>>> - Show quoted text - >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced. >>> That fits with the symptoms. >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft. >>> Mike >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator, >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > > Mike -- > > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to > manufacturing mine. > Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad. If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit. Mike |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 26, 10:17 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote: > > On Jul 26, 8:23 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote: > >> On Jul 25, 7:16 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > >>>>> - Show quoted text - > >>>> UPDATE: I have discovered that the master/slave cylinders were NOT > >>>> included in the clutch kit; hence they were not replaced. > >>> That fits with the symptoms. > >>> Your noise description still points to the pedal shaft on the MC binding > >>> up. The popping can even be the 'jam' letting go and releasing the shaft. > >>> Mike > >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > >> THANKS for all of the helpful information. So, if I am understanding > >> everything correctly, the master cylinder AND slave cylinder needs to > >> be replaced and the throwout bearing needs to be lubed. Now, what > >> about the parts that they have just been replaced? (clutch actuator, > >> release bearing, hydraulics, and clutch kit) Do they all need to be > >> replaced again as well? Am I missing anything else that needs to be > >> replaced or should at least be looked at? I just want to know so that > >> I know what to tell the dealer when I take it back in for service.- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Mike -- > > > Is the clutch pedal shaft and linkage the same thing or have anything > > to do with the clutch push rods? I did find a TSB out for my year and > > make jeep for these parts; however, my jeep was not manufactured > > during the 'specified' time frame. Of course, that's not to say they > > didn't miss something or didn't quite fix the problem prior to > > manufacturing mine. > > Yes! That 'push rod' and it's sliding switch is the part I think is > bad! Either it is physically bad or the MC it pushes on is physically bad. > > If that is the bad part, then for sure it has damaged the new clutch kit. > > Mike- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I thought maybe. THANKS!! I will keep you updated on exactly what the problem was when I take it in to the dealer for a look-see. I'm sure you're right....from all the posts I have read in the past you usually are. :D |
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