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Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> The man at the dealership I spoke >> >>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but >>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. >>> THANKS >> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... >> >> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to >> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the >> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts > to need to be replaced yet again? > If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. Or the MC could be just bad... Mike |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> The man at the dealership I spoke >> >>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but >>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. >>> THANKS >> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... >> >> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to >> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the >> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts > to need to be replaced yet again? > If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. Or the MC could be just bad... Mike |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> The man at the dealership I spoke >> >>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but >>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. >>> THANKS >> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... >> >> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to >> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the >> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts > to need to be replaced yet again? > If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. Or the MC could be just bad... Mike |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 2:08 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote: > > On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> The man at the dealership I spoke > > >>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > >>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > >>> THANKS > >> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... > > >> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to > >> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the > >> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. > > >> Mike > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts > > to need to be replaced yet again? > > If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. > > TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the > strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) > already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold > the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. > Or the MC could be just bad... > > Mike- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - THANKS for the information. I have now found out (according to the Sevice Dept manager) that the 'noise' I am hearing is somehow due to the clutch fork (plate?) fingers. This is all foreign to me.....could you explain what he is talking about? THANKS AGAIN |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 2:08 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote: > > On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> The man at the dealership I spoke > > >>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > >>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > >>> THANKS > >> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... > > >> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to > >> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the > >> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. > > >> Mike > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts > > to need to be replaced yet again? > > If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. > > TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the > strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) > already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold > the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. > Or the MC could be just bad... > > Mike- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - THANKS for the information. I have now found out (according to the Sevice Dept manager) that the 'noise' I am hearing is somehow due to the clutch fork (plate?) fingers. This is all foreign to me.....could you explain what he is talking about? THANKS AGAIN |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 2:08 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote: > > On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> The man at the dealership I spoke > > >>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > >>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > >>> THANKS > >> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... > > >> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to > >> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the > >> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. > > >> Mike > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts > > to need to be replaced yet again? > > If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. > > TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the > strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) > already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold > the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. > Or the MC could be just bad... > > Mike- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - THANKS for the information. I have now found out (according to the Sevice Dept manager) that the 'noise' I am hearing is somehow due to the clutch fork (plate?) fingers. This is all foreign to me.....could you explain what he is talking about? THANKS AGAIN |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 2:08 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote: > > On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> The man at the dealership I spoke > > >>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > >>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > >>> THANKS > >> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... > > >> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to > >> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the > >> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. > > >> Mike > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts > > to need to be replaced yet again? > > If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. > > TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the > strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) > already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold > the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. > Or the MC could be just bad... > > Mike- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - THANKS for the information. I have now found out (according to the Sevice Dept manager) that the 'noise' I am hearing is somehow due to the clutch fork (plate?) fingers. This is all foreign to me.....could you explain what he is talking about? THANKS AGAIN |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 24, 2:08 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> Tracie wrote: >>> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>> The man at the dealership I spoke >>>>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but >>>>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. >>>>> THANKS >>>> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... >>>> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to >>>> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the >>>> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. >>>> Mike >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>> Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts >>> to need to be replaced yet again? >> If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. >> >> TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the >> strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) >> already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold >> the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. >> Or the MC could be just bad... >> >> Mike- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > THANKS for the information. I have now found out (according to the > Sevice Dept manager) that the 'noise' I am hearing is somehow due to > the clutch fork (plate?) fingers. This is all foreign to me.....could > you explain what he is talking about? > > THANKS AGAIN > If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, then baffle 'em with --------...?? Could you please explain in detail 'where' you hear the noise and where the 'rub' feels like it is when the engine is off and you depress the clutch pedal? A second person listening might help. I can't really see a 'rubbing' feeling be transferred via a back feed in the hydraulic system 'from' the clutch fork all the way to the pedal so your foot feels it. Mike |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 24, 2:08 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> Tracie wrote: >>> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>> The man at the dealership I spoke >>>>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but >>>>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. >>>>> THANKS >>>> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... >>>> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to >>>> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the >>>> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. >>>> Mike >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>> Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts >>> to need to be replaced yet again? >> If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. >> >> TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the >> strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) >> already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold >> the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. >> Or the MC could be just bad... >> >> Mike- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > THANKS for the information. I have now found out (according to the > Sevice Dept manager) that the 'noise' I am hearing is somehow due to > the clutch fork (plate?) fingers. This is all foreign to me.....could > you explain what he is talking about? > > THANKS AGAIN > If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, then baffle 'em with --------...?? Could you please explain in detail 'where' you hear the noise and where the 'rub' feels like it is when the engine is off and you depress the clutch pedal? A second person listening might help. I can't really see a 'rubbing' feeling be transferred via a back feed in the hydraulic system 'from' the clutch fork all the way to the pedal so your foot feels it. Mike |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 24, 2:08 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> Tracie wrote: >>> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>> The man at the dealership I spoke >>>>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but >>>>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. >>>>> THANKS >>>> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... >>>> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to >>>> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the >>>> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. >>>> Mike >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>> Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts >>> to need to be replaced yet again? >> If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. >> >> TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the >> strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) >> already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold >> the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. >> Or the MC could be just bad... >> >> Mike- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > THANKS for the information. I have now found out (according to the > Sevice Dept manager) that the 'noise' I am hearing is somehow due to > the clutch fork (plate?) fingers. This is all foreign to me.....could > you explain what he is talking about? > > THANKS AGAIN > If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, then baffle 'em with --------...?? Could you please explain in detail 'where' you hear the noise and where the 'rub' feels like it is when the engine is off and you depress the clutch pedal? A second person listening might help. I can't really see a 'rubbing' feeling be transferred via a back feed in the hydraulic system 'from' the clutch fork all the way to the pedal so your foot feels it. Mike |
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