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BULLFROG CLUTCH
I have what seems to be an ongoing problem with my clutch. Here is
the short version: I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed tranny and A/C. Every morning when I get in, start up, and take off, all is great. My commute to work is approximately 35 miles one way, and is ALL highway. I have noticed that when I get to the town that I work in and have to get off the highway (and now have to use the clutch), that my clutch will squawk (like a bullfrog -- that low pitched croaking sound they make) when I push the clutch in. I only notice this sound in the lower gears (shifting from 2nd to 1st). When I am at a complete stop with the engine running, I push the clutch in slowly and it makes this noise. When I shut the engine off and push the clutch in, it makes this noise in ADDITION to a "rubbing" sound/feel when the clutch is just about to the floor. I have taken it to two different dealerships who have both told me this is normal. I know it is NOT normal because this is my second clutch in this vehicle and it only has 13,000 miles on it. The first clutch was faulty at 7500 miles, so the dealership replaced it under warranty. HOWEVER, the first clutch did NOT make any of these noises. It was just sticking on the way back up while letting it out. I am not hard on my clutch at all, don't ride it, and don't use it much as 99% of my driving is all highway. Anyone have any suggestions? I am at a complete loss. THANKS |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
When they replaced the clutch at 7500 miles, what else did they replace?
Sounds like a master/slave cylinder issue. Take it to another dealer. "Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message news:1185219088.783469.171110@o61g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com... >I have what seems to be an ongoing problem with my clutch. Here is > the short version: > > I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed tranny and A/C. Every > morning when I get in, start up, and take off, all is great. My > commute to work is approximately 35 miles one way, and is ALL > highway. I have noticed that when I get to the town that I work in > and have to get off the highway (and now have to use the clutch), that > my clutch will squawk (like a bullfrog -- that low pitched croaking > sound they make) when I push the clutch in. I only notice this sound > in the lower gears (shifting from 2nd to 1st). When I am at a > complete stop with the engine running, I push the clutch in slowly and > it makes this noise. When I shut the engine off and push the clutch > in, it makes this noise in ADDITION to a "rubbing" sound/feel when the > clutch is just about to the floor. I have taken it to two different > dealerships who have both told me this is normal. I know it is NOT > normal because this is my second clutch in this vehicle and it only > has 13,000 miles on it. The first clutch was faulty at 7500 miles, so > the dealership replaced it under warranty. HOWEVER, the first clutch > did NOT make any of these noises. It was just sticking on the way > back up while letting it out. I am not hard on my clutch at all, > don't ride it, and don't use it much as 99% of my driving is all > highway. Anyone have any suggestions? I am at a complete loss. > THANKS > |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
When they replaced the clutch at 7500 miles, what else did they replace?
Sounds like a master/slave cylinder issue. Take it to another dealer. "Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message news:1185219088.783469.171110@o61g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com... >I have what seems to be an ongoing problem with my clutch. Here is > the short version: > > I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed tranny and A/C. Every > morning when I get in, start up, and take off, all is great. My > commute to work is approximately 35 miles one way, and is ALL > highway. I have noticed that when I get to the town that I work in > and have to get off the highway (and now have to use the clutch), that > my clutch will squawk (like a bullfrog -- that low pitched croaking > sound they make) when I push the clutch in. I only notice this sound > in the lower gears (shifting from 2nd to 1st). When I am at a > complete stop with the engine running, I push the clutch in slowly and > it makes this noise. When I shut the engine off and push the clutch > in, it makes this noise in ADDITION to a "rubbing" sound/feel when the > clutch is just about to the floor. I have taken it to two different > dealerships who have both told me this is normal. I know it is NOT > normal because this is my second clutch in this vehicle and it only > has 13,000 miles on it. The first clutch was faulty at 7500 miles, so > the dealership replaced it under warranty. HOWEVER, the first clutch > did NOT make any of these noises. It was just sticking on the way > back up while letting it out. I am not hard on my clutch at all, > don't ride it, and don't use it much as 99% of my driving is all > highway. Anyone have any suggestions? I am at a complete loss. > THANKS > |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
When they replaced the clutch at 7500 miles, what else did they replace?
Sounds like a master/slave cylinder issue. Take it to another dealer. "Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message news:1185219088.783469.171110@o61g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com... >I have what seems to be an ongoing problem with my clutch. Here is > the short version: > > I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed tranny and A/C. Every > morning when I get in, start up, and take off, all is great. My > commute to work is approximately 35 miles one way, and is ALL > highway. I have noticed that when I get to the town that I work in > and have to get off the highway (and now have to use the clutch), that > my clutch will squawk (like a bullfrog -- that low pitched croaking > sound they make) when I push the clutch in. I only notice this sound > in the lower gears (shifting from 2nd to 1st). When I am at a > complete stop with the engine running, I push the clutch in slowly and > it makes this noise. When I shut the engine off and push the clutch > in, it makes this noise in ADDITION to a "rubbing" sound/feel when the > clutch is just about to the floor. I have taken it to two different > dealerships who have both told me this is normal. I know it is NOT > normal because this is my second clutch in this vehicle and it only > has 13,000 miles on it. The first clutch was faulty at 7500 miles, so > the dealership replaced it under warranty. HOWEVER, the first clutch > did NOT make any of these noises. It was just sticking on the way > back up while letting it out. I am not hard on my clutch at all, > don't ride it, and don't use it much as 99% of my driving is all > highway. Anyone have any suggestions? I am at a complete loss. > THANKS > |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
When they replaced the clutch at 7500 miles, what else did they replace?
Sounds like a master/slave cylinder issue. Take it to another dealer. "Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message news:1185219088.783469.171110@o61g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com... >I have what seems to be an ongoing problem with my clutch. Here is > the short version: > > I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed tranny and A/C. Every > morning when I get in, start up, and take off, all is great. My > commute to work is approximately 35 miles one way, and is ALL > highway. I have noticed that when I get to the town that I work in > and have to get off the highway (and now have to use the clutch), that > my clutch will squawk (like a bullfrog -- that low pitched croaking > sound they make) when I push the clutch in. I only notice this sound > in the lower gears (shifting from 2nd to 1st). When I am at a > complete stop with the engine running, I push the clutch in slowly and > it makes this noise. When I shut the engine off and push the clutch > in, it makes this noise in ADDITION to a "rubbing" sound/feel when the > clutch is just about to the floor. I have taken it to two different > dealerships who have both told me this is normal. I know it is NOT > normal because this is my second clutch in this vehicle and it only > has 13,000 miles on it. The first clutch was faulty at 7500 miles, so > the dealership replaced it under warranty. HOWEVER, the first clutch > did NOT make any of these noises. It was just sticking on the way > back up while letting it out. I am not hard on my clutch at all, > don't ride it, and don't use it much as 99% of my driving is all > highway. Anyone have any suggestions? I am at a complete loss. > THANKS > |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> When they replaced the clutch at 7500 miles, what else did they replace? > Sounds like a master/slave cylinder issue. > > Take it to another dealer. > > "Tracie" <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote in message > > news:1185219088.783469.171110@o61g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com... > > > > >I have what seems to be an ongoing problem with my clutch. Here is > > the short version: > > > I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed tranny and A/C. Every > > morning when I get in, start up, and take off, all is great. My > > commute to work is approximately 35 miles one way, and is ALL > > highway. I have noticed that when I get to the town that I work in > > and have to get off the highway (and now have to use the clutch), that > > my clutch will squawk (like a bullfrog -- that low pitched croaking > > sound they make) when I push the clutch in. I only notice this sound > > in the lower gears (shifting from 2nd to 1st). When I am at a > > complete stop with the engine running, I push the clutch in slowly and > > it makes this noise. When I shut the engine off and push the clutch > > in, it makes this noise in ADDITION to a "rubbing" sound/feel when the > > clutch is just about to the floor. I have taken it to two different > > dealerships who have both told me this is normal. I know it is NOT > > normal because this is my second clutch in this vehicle and it only > > has 13,000 miles on it. The first clutch was faulty at 7500 miles, so > > the dealership replaced it under warranty. HOWEVER, the first clutch > > did NOT make any of these noises. It was just sticking on the way > > back up while letting it out. I am not hard on my clutch at all, > > don't ride it, and don't use it much as 99% of my driving is all > > highway. Anyone have any suggestions? I am at a complete loss. > > THANKS- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape they're in. Thanks for the information. |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> When they replaced the clutch at 7500 miles, what else did they replace? > Sounds like a master/slave cylinder issue. > > Take it to another dealer. > > "Tracie" <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote in message > > news:1185219088.783469.171110@o61g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com... > > > > >I have what seems to be an ongoing problem with my clutch. Here is > > the short version: > > > I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed tranny and A/C. Every > > morning when I get in, start up, and take off, all is great. My > > commute to work is approximately 35 miles one way, and is ALL > > highway. I have noticed that when I get to the town that I work in > > and have to get off the highway (and now have to use the clutch), that > > my clutch will squawk (like a bullfrog -- that low pitched croaking > > sound they make) when I push the clutch in. I only notice this sound > > in the lower gears (shifting from 2nd to 1st). When I am at a > > complete stop with the engine running, I push the clutch in slowly and > > it makes this noise. When I shut the engine off and push the clutch > > in, it makes this noise in ADDITION to a "rubbing" sound/feel when the > > clutch is just about to the floor. I have taken it to two different > > dealerships who have both told me this is normal. I know it is NOT > > normal because this is my second clutch in this vehicle and it only > > has 13,000 miles on it. The first clutch was faulty at 7500 miles, so > > the dealership replaced it under warranty. HOWEVER, the first clutch > > did NOT make any of these noises. It was just sticking on the way > > back up while letting it out. I am not hard on my clutch at all, > > don't ride it, and don't use it much as 99% of my driving is all > > highway. Anyone have any suggestions? I am at a complete loss. > > THANKS- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape they're in. Thanks for the information. |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> When they replaced the clutch at 7500 miles, what else did they replace? > Sounds like a master/slave cylinder issue. > > Take it to another dealer. > > "Tracie" <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote in message > > news:1185219088.783469.171110@o61g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com... > > > > >I have what seems to be an ongoing problem with my clutch. Here is > > the short version: > > > I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed tranny and A/C. Every > > morning when I get in, start up, and take off, all is great. My > > commute to work is approximately 35 miles one way, and is ALL > > highway. I have noticed that when I get to the town that I work in > > and have to get off the highway (and now have to use the clutch), that > > my clutch will squawk (like a bullfrog -- that low pitched croaking > > sound they make) when I push the clutch in. I only notice this sound > > in the lower gears (shifting from 2nd to 1st). When I am at a > > complete stop with the engine running, I push the clutch in slowly and > > it makes this noise. When I shut the engine off and push the clutch > > in, it makes this noise in ADDITION to a "rubbing" sound/feel when the > > clutch is just about to the floor. I have taken it to two different > > dealerships who have both told me this is normal. I know it is NOT > > normal because this is my second clutch in this vehicle and it only > > has 13,000 miles on it. The first clutch was faulty at 7500 miles, so > > the dealership replaced it under warranty. HOWEVER, the first clutch > > did NOT make any of these noises. It was just sticking on the way > > back up while letting it out. I am not hard on my clutch at all, > > don't ride it, and don't use it much as 99% of my driving is all > > highway. Anyone have any suggestions? I am at a complete loss. > > THANKS- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape they're in. Thanks for the information. |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> When they replaced the clutch at 7500 miles, what else did they replace? > Sounds like a master/slave cylinder issue. > > Take it to another dealer. > > "Tracie" <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote in message > > news:1185219088.783469.171110@o61g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com... > > > > >I have what seems to be an ongoing problem with my clutch. Here is > > the short version: > > > I have a 2006 Wrangler X with the 6 speed tranny and A/C. Every > > morning when I get in, start up, and take off, all is great. My > > commute to work is approximately 35 miles one way, and is ALL > > highway. I have noticed that when I get to the town that I work in > > and have to get off the highway (and now have to use the clutch), that > > my clutch will squawk (like a bullfrog -- that low pitched croaking > > sound they make) when I push the clutch in. I only notice this sound > > in the lower gears (shifting from 2nd to 1st). When I am at a > > complete stop with the engine running, I push the clutch in slowly and > > it makes this noise. When I shut the engine off and push the clutch > > in, it makes this noise in ADDITION to a "rubbing" sound/feel when the > > clutch is just about to the floor. I have taken it to two different > > dealerships who have both told me this is normal. I know it is NOT > > normal because this is my second clutch in this vehicle and it only > > has 13,000 miles on it. The first clutch was faulty at 7500 miles, so > > the dealership replaced it under warranty. HOWEVER, the first clutch > > did NOT make any of these noises. It was just sticking on the way > > back up while letting it out. I am not hard on my clutch at all, > > don't ride it, and don't use it much as 99% of my driving is all > > highway. Anyone have any suggestions? I am at a complete loss. > > THANKS- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape they're in. Thanks for the information. |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message news:1185281299.624415.73060@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com... > On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, > they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I > took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out > due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they > replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will > find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another > dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape > they're in. Thanks for the information. > Did they give you a reason why the pressure plate was getting too hot? Like if the clutch was never fully engaged and it caused slippage and the friction caused overheating. The pressure plate normally wouldn't overheat unless something was malfunctioning. Maybe the slave cylinder overheated as well and they never replaced it. |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message news:1185281299.624415.73060@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com... > On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, > they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I > took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out > due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they > replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will > find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another > dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape > they're in. Thanks for the information. > Did they give you a reason why the pressure plate was getting too hot? Like if the clutch was never fully engaged and it caused slippage and the friction caused overheating. The pressure plate normally wouldn't overheat unless something was malfunctioning. Maybe the slave cylinder overheated as well and they never replaced it. |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message news:1185281299.624415.73060@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com... > On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, > they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I > took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out > due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they > replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will > find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another > dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape > they're in. Thanks for the information. > Did they give you a reason why the pressure plate was getting too hot? Like if the clutch was never fully engaged and it caused slippage and the friction caused overheating. The pressure plate normally wouldn't overheat unless something was malfunctioning. Maybe the slave cylinder overheated as well and they never replaced it. |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message news:1185281299.624415.73060@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com... > On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, > they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I > took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out > due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they > replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will > find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another > dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape > they're in. Thanks for the information. > Did they give you a reason why the pressure plate was getting too hot? Like if the clutch was never fully engaged and it caused slippage and the friction caused overheating. The pressure plate normally wouldn't overheat unless something was malfunctioning. Maybe the slave cylinder overheated as well and they never replaced it. |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 9:33 am, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> "Tracie" <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote in message > > news:1185281299.624415.73060@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...> On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > > I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, > > they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I > > took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out > > due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they > > replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will > > find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another > > dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape > > they're in. Thanks for the information. > > Did they give you a reason why the pressure plate was getting too hot? Like > if the clutch was never fully engaged and it caused slippage and the > friction caused overheating. The pressure plate normally wouldn't overheat > unless something was malfunctioning. Maybe the slave cylinder overheated as > well and they never replaced it. So in other words, if this new clutch is working fine (except after it has been driven for awhile), but the old clutch caused the master/ slave cylinder to have problems, then the master/slave cylinder would be causing this new clutch to act a little wacky as well? The dealership did not give me a reason as to why the pressure plate was getting too hot. The only thing I don't understand is that if I drive 35 miles to work one way and only use the clutch VERY minimally (just to go one mile to get on the highway from town), why would the clutch make that funny noise and have that "rubbing" feel when I get off the highway even though I have not even touched the clutch to shift (until I get to the town I work in -- 35 miles later)? |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 9:33 am, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> "Tracie" <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote in message > > news:1185281299.624415.73060@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...> On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > > I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, > > they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I > > took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out > > due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they > > replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will > > find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another > > dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape > > they're in. Thanks for the information. > > Did they give you a reason why the pressure plate was getting too hot? Like > if the clutch was never fully engaged and it caused slippage and the > friction caused overheating. The pressure plate normally wouldn't overheat > unless something was malfunctioning. Maybe the slave cylinder overheated as > well and they never replaced it. So in other words, if this new clutch is working fine (except after it has been driven for awhile), but the old clutch caused the master/ slave cylinder to have problems, then the master/slave cylinder would be causing this new clutch to act a little wacky as well? The dealership did not give me a reason as to why the pressure plate was getting too hot. The only thing I don't understand is that if I drive 35 miles to work one way and only use the clutch VERY minimally (just to go one mile to get on the highway from town), why would the clutch make that funny noise and have that "rubbing" feel when I get off the highway even though I have not even touched the clutch to shift (until I get to the town I work in -- 35 miles later)? |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 9:33 am, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> "Tracie" <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote in message > > news:1185281299.624415.73060@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...> On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > > I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, > > they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I > > took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out > > due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they > > replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will > > find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another > > dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape > > they're in. Thanks for the information. > > Did they give you a reason why the pressure plate was getting too hot? Like > if the clutch was never fully engaged and it caused slippage and the > friction caused overheating. The pressure plate normally wouldn't overheat > unless something was malfunctioning. Maybe the slave cylinder overheated as > well and they never replaced it. So in other words, if this new clutch is working fine (except after it has been driven for awhile), but the old clutch caused the master/ slave cylinder to have problems, then the master/slave cylinder would be causing this new clutch to act a little wacky as well? The dealership did not give me a reason as to why the pressure plate was getting too hot. The only thing I don't understand is that if I drive 35 miles to work one way and only use the clutch VERY minimally (just to go one mile to get on the highway from town), why would the clutch make that funny noise and have that "rubbing" feel when I get off the highway even though I have not even touched the clutch to shift (until I get to the town I work in -- 35 miles later)? |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 9:33 am, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote:
> "Tracie" <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote in message > > news:1185281299.624415.73060@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...> On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > > I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, > > they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I > > took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out > > due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they > > replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will > > find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another > > dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape > > they're in. Thanks for the information. > > Did they give you a reason why the pressure plate was getting too hot? Like > if the clutch was never fully engaged and it caused slippage and the > friction caused overheating. The pressure plate normally wouldn't overheat > unless something was malfunctioning. Maybe the slave cylinder overheated as > well and they never replaced it. So in other words, if this new clutch is working fine (except after it has been driven for awhile), but the old clutch caused the master/ slave cylinder to have problems, then the master/slave cylinder would be causing this new clutch to act a little wacky as well? The dealership did not give me a reason as to why the pressure plate was getting too hot. The only thing I don't understand is that if I drive 35 miles to work one way and only use the clutch VERY minimally (just to go one mile to get on the highway from town), why would the clutch make that funny noise and have that "rubbing" feel when I get off the highway even though I have not even touched the clutch to shift (until I get to the town I work in -- 35 miles later)? |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 9:44 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 9:33 am, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Tracie" <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote in message > > >news:1185281299.624415.73060@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...> On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > > > I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, > > > they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I > > > took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out > > > due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they > > > replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will > > > find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another > > > dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape > > > they're in. Thanks for the information. > > > Did they give you a reason why the pressure plate was getting too hot? Like > > if the clutch was never fully engaged and it caused slippage and the > > friction caused overheating. The pressure plate normally wouldn't overheat > > unless something was malfunctioning. Maybe the slave cylinder overheated as > > well and they never replaced it. > > So in other words, if this new clutch is working fine (except after it > has been driven for awhile), but the old clutch caused the master/ > slave cylinder to have problems, then the master/slave cylinder would > be causing this new clutch to act a little wacky as well? The > dealership did not give me a reason as to why the pressure plate was > getting too hot. > > The only thing I don't understand is that if I drive 35 miles to > work one way and only use the clutch VERY minimally (just to go one > mile to get on the highway from town), why would the clutch make that > funny noise and have that "rubbing" feel when I get off the highway > even though I have not even touched the clutch to shift (until I get > to the town I work in -- 35 miles later)?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - OK. Here is what I found out. The parts that were replaced are as follows: clutch/pressure plate kit, hydraulic parts, clutch actuator, and the release bearing. I don't know what any of this stuff is, so hopefully someone can help me out. The man at the dealership I spoke with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. THANKS |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 9:44 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 9:33 am, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Tracie" <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote in message > > >news:1185281299.624415.73060@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...> On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > > > I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, > > > they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I > > > took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out > > > due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they > > > replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will > > > find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another > > > dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape > > > they're in. Thanks for the information. > > > Did they give you a reason why the pressure plate was getting too hot? Like > > if the clutch was never fully engaged and it caused slippage and the > > friction caused overheating. The pressure plate normally wouldn't overheat > > unless something was malfunctioning. Maybe the slave cylinder overheated as > > well and they never replaced it. > > So in other words, if this new clutch is working fine (except after it > has been driven for awhile), but the old clutch caused the master/ > slave cylinder to have problems, then the master/slave cylinder would > be causing this new clutch to act a little wacky as well? The > dealership did not give me a reason as to why the pressure plate was > getting too hot. > > The only thing I don't understand is that if I drive 35 miles to > work one way and only use the clutch VERY minimally (just to go one > mile to get on the highway from town), why would the clutch make that > funny noise and have that "rubbing" feel when I get off the highway > even though I have not even touched the clutch to shift (until I get > to the town I work in -- 35 miles later)?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - OK. Here is what I found out. The parts that were replaced are as follows: clutch/pressure plate kit, hydraulic parts, clutch actuator, and the release bearing. I don't know what any of this stuff is, so hopefully someone can help me out. The man at the dealership I spoke with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. THANKS |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 9:44 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 9:33 am, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Tracie" <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote in message > > >news:1185281299.624415.73060@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...> On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > > > I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, > > > they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I > > > took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out > > > due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they > > > replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will > > > find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another > > > dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape > > > they're in. Thanks for the information. > > > Did they give you a reason why the pressure plate was getting too hot? Like > > if the clutch was never fully engaged and it caused slippage and the > > friction caused overheating. The pressure plate normally wouldn't overheat > > unless something was malfunctioning. Maybe the slave cylinder overheated as > > well and they never replaced it. > > So in other words, if this new clutch is working fine (except after it > has been driven for awhile), but the old clutch caused the master/ > slave cylinder to have problems, then the master/slave cylinder would > be causing this new clutch to act a little wacky as well? The > dealership did not give me a reason as to why the pressure plate was > getting too hot. > > The only thing I don't understand is that if I drive 35 miles to > work one way and only use the clutch VERY minimally (just to go one > mile to get on the highway from town), why would the clutch make that > funny noise and have that "rubbing" feel when I get off the highway > even though I have not even touched the clutch to shift (until I get > to the town I work in -- 35 miles later)?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - OK. Here is what I found out. The parts that were replaced are as follows: clutch/pressure plate kit, hydraulic parts, clutch actuator, and the release bearing. I don't know what any of this stuff is, so hopefully someone can help me out. The man at the dealership I spoke with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. THANKS |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 9:44 am, Tracie <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote:
> On Jul 24, 9:33 am, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "Tracie" <brain...@upstate.edu> wrote in message > > >news:1185281299.624415.73060@q75g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...> On Jul 23, 9:08 pm, "Matt Macchiarolo" <m...@nospamplease.com> wrote: > > > > I really don't know what they replaced. To the best of my knowledge, > > > they replaced the clutch assembly with a new clutch. The dealership I > > > took it to thought the first clutch was sticking on the way back out > > > due to the pressure plate getting too hot. I don't know if they > > > replaced the master/slave cylinder when they worked on it. I will > > > find out though. If they didn't, I am going to take it to another > > > dealership and ask that they check those parts to see what shape > > > they're in. Thanks for the information. > > > Did they give you a reason why the pressure plate was getting too hot? Like > > if the clutch was never fully engaged and it caused slippage and the > > friction caused overheating. The pressure plate normally wouldn't overheat > > unless something was malfunctioning. Maybe the slave cylinder overheated as > > well and they never replaced it. > > So in other words, if this new clutch is working fine (except after it > has been driven for awhile), but the old clutch caused the master/ > slave cylinder to have problems, then the master/slave cylinder would > be causing this new clutch to act a little wacky as well? The > dealership did not give me a reason as to why the pressure plate was > getting too hot. > > The only thing I don't understand is that if I drive 35 miles to > work one way and only use the clutch VERY minimally (just to go one > mile to get on the highway from town), why would the clutch make that > funny noise and have that "rubbing" feel when I get off the highway > even though I have not even touched the clutch to shift (until I get > to the town I work in -- 35 miles later)?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - OK. Here is what I found out. The parts that were replaced are as follows: clutch/pressure plate kit, hydraulic parts, clutch actuator, and the release bearing. I don't know what any of this stuff is, so hopefully someone can help me out. The man at the dealership I spoke with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. THANKS |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
The man at the dealership I spoke
> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > THANKS > That is likely the 'whole' problem.... A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
The man at the dealership I spoke
> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > THANKS > That is likely the 'whole' problem.... A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
The man at the dealership I spoke
> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > THANKS > That is likely the 'whole' problem.... A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
The man at the dealership I spoke
> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > THANKS > That is likely the 'whole' problem.... A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The man at the dealership I spoke > > > with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > > THANKS > > That is likely the 'whole' problem.... > > A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to > overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the > 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts to need to be replaced yet again? |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The man at the dealership I spoke > > > with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > > THANKS > > That is likely the 'whole' problem.... > > A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to > overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the > 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts to need to be replaced yet again? |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The man at the dealership I spoke > > > with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > > THANKS > > That is likely the 'whole' problem.... > > A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to > overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the > 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts to need to be replaced yet again? |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The man at the dealership I spoke > > > with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > > he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > > THANKS > > That is likely the 'whole' problem.... > > A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to > overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the > 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts to need to be replaced yet again? |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> The man at the dealership I spoke >> >>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but >>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. >>> THANKS >> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... >> >> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to >> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the >> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts > to need to be replaced yet again? > If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. Or the MC could be just bad... Mike |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> The man at the dealership I spoke >> >>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but >>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. >>> THANKS >> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... >> >> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to >> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the >> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts > to need to be replaced yet again? > If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. Or the MC could be just bad... Mike |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> The man at the dealership I spoke >> >>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but >>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. >>> THANKS >> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... >> >> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to >> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the >> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts > to need to be replaced yet again? > If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. Or the MC could be just bad... Mike |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> The man at the dealership I spoke >> >>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but >>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. >>> THANKS >> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... >> >> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to >> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the >> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts > to need to be replaced yet again? > If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. Or the MC could be just bad... Mike |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 2:08 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote: > > On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> The man at the dealership I spoke > > >>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > >>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > >>> THANKS > >> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... > > >> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to > >> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the > >> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. > > >> Mike > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts > > to need to be replaced yet again? > > If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. > > TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the > strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) > already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold > the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. > Or the MC could be just bad... > > Mike- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - THANKS for the information. I have now found out (according to the Sevice Dept manager) that the 'noise' I am hearing is somehow due to the clutch fork (plate?) fingers. This is all foreign to me.....could you explain what he is talking about? THANKS AGAIN |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 2:08 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote: > > On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> The man at the dealership I spoke > > >>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > >>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > >>> THANKS > >> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... > > >> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to > >> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the > >> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. > > >> Mike > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts > > to need to be replaced yet again? > > If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. > > TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the > strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) > already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold > the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. > Or the MC could be just bad... > > Mike- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - THANKS for the information. I have now found out (according to the Sevice Dept manager) that the 'noise' I am hearing is somehow due to the clutch fork (plate?) fingers. This is all foreign to me.....could you explain what he is talking about? THANKS AGAIN |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 2:08 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote: > > On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> The man at the dealership I spoke > > >>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > >>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > >>> THANKS > >> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... > > >> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to > >> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the > >> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. > > >> Mike > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts > > to need to be replaced yet again? > > If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. > > TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the > strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) > already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold > the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. > Or the MC could be just bad... > > Mike- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - THANKS for the information. I have now found out (according to the Sevice Dept manager) that the 'noise' I am hearing is somehow due to the clutch fork (plate?) fingers. This is all foreign to me.....could you explain what he is talking about? THANKS AGAIN |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
On Jul 24, 2:08 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Tracie wrote: > > On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> The man at the dealership I spoke > > >>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but > >>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. > >>> THANKS > >> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... > > >> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to > >> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the > >> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. > > >> Mike > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts > > to need to be replaced yet again? > > If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. > > TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the > strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) > already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold > the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. > Or the MC could be just bad... > > Mike- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - THANKS for the information. I have now found out (according to the Sevice Dept manager) that the 'noise' I am hearing is somehow due to the clutch fork (plate?) fingers. This is all foreign to me.....could you explain what he is talking about? THANKS AGAIN |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 24, 2:08 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> Tracie wrote: >>> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>> The man at the dealership I spoke >>>>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but >>>>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. >>>>> THANKS >>>> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... >>>> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to >>>> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the >>>> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. >>>> Mike >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>> Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts >>> to need to be replaced yet again? >> If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. >> >> TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the >> strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) >> already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold >> the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. >> Or the MC could be just bad... >> >> Mike- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > THANKS for the information. I have now found out (according to the > Sevice Dept manager) that the 'noise' I am hearing is somehow due to > the clutch fork (plate?) fingers. This is all foreign to me.....could > you explain what he is talking about? > > THANKS AGAIN > If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, then baffle 'em with --------...?? Could you please explain in detail 'where' you hear the noise and where the 'rub' feels like it is when the engine is off and you depress the clutch pedal? A second person listening might help. I can't really see a 'rubbing' feeling be transferred via a back feed in the hydraulic system 'from' the clutch fork all the way to the pedal so your foot feels it. Mike |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 24, 2:08 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> Tracie wrote: >>> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>> The man at the dealership I spoke >>>>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but >>>>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. >>>>> THANKS >>>> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... >>>> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to >>>> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the >>>> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. >>>> Mike >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>> Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts >>> to need to be replaced yet again? >> If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. >> >> TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the >> strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) >> already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold >> the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. >> Or the MC could be just bad... >> >> Mike- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > THANKS for the information. I have now found out (according to the > Sevice Dept manager) that the 'noise' I am hearing is somehow due to > the clutch fork (plate?) fingers. This is all foreign to me.....could > you explain what he is talking about? > > THANKS AGAIN > If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, then baffle 'em with --------...?? Could you please explain in detail 'where' you hear the noise and where the 'rub' feels like it is when the engine is off and you depress the clutch pedal? A second person listening might help. I can't really see a 'rubbing' feeling be transferred via a back feed in the hydraulic system 'from' the clutch fork all the way to the pedal so your foot feels it. Mike |
Re: BULLFROG CLUTCH
Tracie wrote:
> On Jul 24, 2:08 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> Tracie wrote: >>> On Jul 24, 10:50 am, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>> The man at the dealership I spoke >>>>> with did not know if this kit included the master/slave cylinder, but >>>>> he was going to check into it and would know tomorrow afternoon. >>>>> THANKS >>>> That is likely the 'whole' problem.... >>>> A bad master keeping pressure on the pressure plate causing that to >>>> overheat and smoke out. The MC Jam is now finally making noise at the >>>> 'source' of the troubles, not the symptoms. >>>> Mike >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>> Will this bad master cylinder now cause the new clutch kit and parts >>> to need to be replaced yet again? >> If that is the 'source' of the issues, for sure. >> >> TJ's have had issues with the pedal shaft and it's linkage and the >> strange new style of interlock switch, (clutch must be down for starter) >> already in the past. If that safety switch was jamming, it could hold >> the MC 'on' which can cause your burned up clutch troubles and noise. >> Or the MC could be just bad... >> >> Mike- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > THANKS for the information. I have now found out (according to the > Sevice Dept manager) that the 'noise' I am hearing is somehow due to > the clutch fork (plate?) fingers. This is all foreign to me.....could > you explain what he is talking about? > > THANKS AGAIN > If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, then baffle 'em with --------...?? Could you please explain in detail 'where' you hear the noise and where the 'rub' feels like it is when the engine is off and you depress the clutch pedal? A second person listening might help. I can't really see a 'rubbing' feeling be transferred via a back feed in the hydraulic system 'from' the clutch fork all the way to the pedal so your foot feels it. Mike |
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