Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Hi Jay,
Oversized, and out of round tires, need oversized, or double
stabilizer shock absorbers:
http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Buildu..._stabilzer.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JVC wrote:
>
> Sorry guys, it's a 2004 Rubicon. The caster is no big deal. The main
> things are the clunking I hear when making a right turn, the steering
> wheel shake and the shifting.
>
> I can feel the clunking in the pedals, and even the stick, but only when
> making a right turn. And I came to find that it's NOT only during a
> tight turn, so I don't think adjusting the steering stop will make a
> difference. Also, if it helps I can take pics with my digicam and post
> them on the web if you want to see anything.
>
> The steering wheel shake seems to be worst at about 40 mph. Above and
> below 40 the shake lessens considerably. I noticed the OEM steering
> stabilizer on my '04 Rubi seems to be much flimsier than the one on my
> old '98 Sport. Quadratec claimed I wouldn't need to change the steering
> stabilizer, but maybe that would make a difference?
>
> The shifting is fine if you pull the boot off. The boot just seems to be
> bunching up under the stick. Do they make some kind of a shifter
> extender or even and offset? If the shifter was offset an inch or so to
> the front then all would be cool. Thanks again guys. Much appreciation
> for your help.
>
> Jay
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> >Hi Jerry,
> > Yes, there is no vibration at the constant velocity universal joint
> >end that's usually at the transfer end, but there a heck of a vibration
> >at the single universal slip yoke end, if it's not straight with the
> >shaft. That's we always point the pinion directly at the transfer as in
> >the rear driveshaft:
> >http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/...iveshaftin.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Most swb Jeeps need 5-7 degrees of caster or they'l be fairly squirrely. If
> >>you're as close as you say (4.7 & 5 degrees) you should be ok.
> >>
> >>TJs have a low pinion front axle and you may encounter a bit of
> >>driveline-induced vibration if you increase the caster. I'm not certain
> >>about your year TJ, but most I've seen have a cv-type inner u-joint that
> >>should reduce the driveline vibes. If you don't have one you might look into
> >>a custom shaft.
> >>
> >>
Oversized, and out of round tires, need oversized, or double
stabilizer shock absorbers:
http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Buildu..._stabilzer.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JVC wrote:
>
> Sorry guys, it's a 2004 Rubicon. The caster is no big deal. The main
> things are the clunking I hear when making a right turn, the steering
> wheel shake and the shifting.
>
> I can feel the clunking in the pedals, and even the stick, but only when
> making a right turn. And I came to find that it's NOT only during a
> tight turn, so I don't think adjusting the steering stop will make a
> difference. Also, if it helps I can take pics with my digicam and post
> them on the web if you want to see anything.
>
> The steering wheel shake seems to be worst at about 40 mph. Above and
> below 40 the shake lessens considerably. I noticed the OEM steering
> stabilizer on my '04 Rubi seems to be much flimsier than the one on my
> old '98 Sport. Quadratec claimed I wouldn't need to change the steering
> stabilizer, but maybe that would make a difference?
>
> The shifting is fine if you pull the boot off. The boot just seems to be
> bunching up under the stick. Do they make some kind of a shifter
> extender or even and offset? If the shifter was offset an inch or so to
> the front then all would be cool. Thanks again guys. Much appreciation
> for your help.
>
> Jay
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> >Hi Jerry,
> > Yes, there is no vibration at the constant velocity universal joint
> >end that's usually at the transfer end, but there a heck of a vibration
> >at the single universal slip yoke end, if it's not straight with the
> >shaft. That's we always point the pinion directly at the transfer as in
> >the rear driveshaft:
> >http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/...iveshaftin.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Most swb Jeeps need 5-7 degrees of caster or they'l be fairly squirrely. If
> >>you're as close as you say (4.7 & 5 degrees) you should be ok.
> >>
> >>TJs have a low pinion front axle and you may encounter a bit of
> >>driveline-induced vibration if you increase the caster. I'm not certain
> >>about your year TJ, but most I've seen have a cv-type inner u-joint that
> >>should reduce the driveline vibes. If you don't have one you might look into
> >>a custom shaft.
> >>
> >>
#42
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Hi Jay,
Oversized, and out of round tires, need oversized, or double
stabilizer shock absorbers:
http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Buildu..._stabilzer.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JVC wrote:
>
> Sorry guys, it's a 2004 Rubicon. The caster is no big deal. The main
> things are the clunking I hear when making a right turn, the steering
> wheel shake and the shifting.
>
> I can feel the clunking in the pedals, and even the stick, but only when
> making a right turn. And I came to find that it's NOT only during a
> tight turn, so I don't think adjusting the steering stop will make a
> difference. Also, if it helps I can take pics with my digicam and post
> them on the web if you want to see anything.
>
> The steering wheel shake seems to be worst at about 40 mph. Above and
> below 40 the shake lessens considerably. I noticed the OEM steering
> stabilizer on my '04 Rubi seems to be much flimsier than the one on my
> old '98 Sport. Quadratec claimed I wouldn't need to change the steering
> stabilizer, but maybe that would make a difference?
>
> The shifting is fine if you pull the boot off. The boot just seems to be
> bunching up under the stick. Do they make some kind of a shifter
> extender or even and offset? If the shifter was offset an inch or so to
> the front then all would be cool. Thanks again guys. Much appreciation
> for your help.
>
> Jay
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> >Hi Jerry,
> > Yes, there is no vibration at the constant velocity universal joint
> >end that's usually at the transfer end, but there a heck of a vibration
> >at the single universal slip yoke end, if it's not straight with the
> >shaft. That's we always point the pinion directly at the transfer as in
> >the rear driveshaft:
> >http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/...iveshaftin.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Most swb Jeeps need 5-7 degrees of caster or they'l be fairly squirrely. If
> >>you're as close as you say (4.7 & 5 degrees) you should be ok.
> >>
> >>TJs have a low pinion front axle and you may encounter a bit of
> >>driveline-induced vibration if you increase the caster. I'm not certain
> >>about your year TJ, but most I've seen have a cv-type inner u-joint that
> >>should reduce the driveline vibes. If you don't have one you might look into
> >>a custom shaft.
> >>
> >>
Oversized, and out of round tires, need oversized, or double
stabilizer shock absorbers:
http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Buildu..._stabilzer.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JVC wrote:
>
> Sorry guys, it's a 2004 Rubicon. The caster is no big deal. The main
> things are the clunking I hear when making a right turn, the steering
> wheel shake and the shifting.
>
> I can feel the clunking in the pedals, and even the stick, but only when
> making a right turn. And I came to find that it's NOT only during a
> tight turn, so I don't think adjusting the steering stop will make a
> difference. Also, if it helps I can take pics with my digicam and post
> them on the web if you want to see anything.
>
> The steering wheel shake seems to be worst at about 40 mph. Above and
> below 40 the shake lessens considerably. I noticed the OEM steering
> stabilizer on my '04 Rubi seems to be much flimsier than the one on my
> old '98 Sport. Quadratec claimed I wouldn't need to change the steering
> stabilizer, but maybe that would make a difference?
>
> The shifting is fine if you pull the boot off. The boot just seems to be
> bunching up under the stick. Do they make some kind of a shifter
> extender or even and offset? If the shifter was offset an inch or so to
> the front then all would be cool. Thanks again guys. Much appreciation
> for your help.
>
> Jay
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> >Hi Jerry,
> > Yes, there is no vibration at the constant velocity universal joint
> >end that's usually at the transfer end, but there a heck of a vibration
> >at the single universal slip yoke end, if it's not straight with the
> >shaft. That's we always point the pinion directly at the transfer as in
> >the rear driveshaft:
> >http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/...iveshaftin.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Most swb Jeeps need 5-7 degrees of caster or they'l be fairly squirrely. If
> >>you're as close as you say (4.7 & 5 degrees) you should be ok.
> >>
> >>TJs have a low pinion front axle and you may encounter a bit of
> >>driveline-induced vibration if you increase the caster. I'm not certain
> >>about your year TJ, but most I've seen have a cv-type inner u-joint that
> >>should reduce the driveline vibes. If you don't have one you might look into
> >>a custom shaft.
> >>
> >>
#43
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Hi Jay,
Oversized, and out of round tires, need oversized, or double
stabilizer shock absorbers:
http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Buildu..._stabilzer.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JVC wrote:
>
> Sorry guys, it's a 2004 Rubicon. The caster is no big deal. The main
> things are the clunking I hear when making a right turn, the steering
> wheel shake and the shifting.
>
> I can feel the clunking in the pedals, and even the stick, but only when
> making a right turn. And I came to find that it's NOT only during a
> tight turn, so I don't think adjusting the steering stop will make a
> difference. Also, if it helps I can take pics with my digicam and post
> them on the web if you want to see anything.
>
> The steering wheel shake seems to be worst at about 40 mph. Above and
> below 40 the shake lessens considerably. I noticed the OEM steering
> stabilizer on my '04 Rubi seems to be much flimsier than the one on my
> old '98 Sport. Quadratec claimed I wouldn't need to change the steering
> stabilizer, but maybe that would make a difference?
>
> The shifting is fine if you pull the boot off. The boot just seems to be
> bunching up under the stick. Do they make some kind of a shifter
> extender or even and offset? If the shifter was offset an inch or so to
> the front then all would be cool. Thanks again guys. Much appreciation
> for your help.
>
> Jay
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> >Hi Jerry,
> > Yes, there is no vibration at the constant velocity universal joint
> >end that's usually at the transfer end, but there a heck of a vibration
> >at the single universal slip yoke end, if it's not straight with the
> >shaft. That's we always point the pinion directly at the transfer as in
> >the rear driveshaft:
> >http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/...iveshaftin.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Most swb Jeeps need 5-7 degrees of caster or they'l be fairly squirrely. If
> >>you're as close as you say (4.7 & 5 degrees) you should be ok.
> >>
> >>TJs have a low pinion front axle and you may encounter a bit of
> >>driveline-induced vibration if you increase the caster. I'm not certain
> >>about your year TJ, but most I've seen have a cv-type inner u-joint that
> >>should reduce the driveline vibes. If you don't have one you might look into
> >>a custom shaft.
> >>
> >>
Oversized, and out of round tires, need oversized, or double
stabilizer shock absorbers:
http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Buildu..._stabilzer.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JVC wrote:
>
> Sorry guys, it's a 2004 Rubicon. The caster is no big deal. The main
> things are the clunking I hear when making a right turn, the steering
> wheel shake and the shifting.
>
> I can feel the clunking in the pedals, and even the stick, but only when
> making a right turn. And I came to find that it's NOT only during a
> tight turn, so I don't think adjusting the steering stop will make a
> difference. Also, if it helps I can take pics with my digicam and post
> them on the web if you want to see anything.
>
> The steering wheel shake seems to be worst at about 40 mph. Above and
> below 40 the shake lessens considerably. I noticed the OEM steering
> stabilizer on my '04 Rubi seems to be much flimsier than the one on my
> old '98 Sport. Quadratec claimed I wouldn't need to change the steering
> stabilizer, but maybe that would make a difference?
>
> The shifting is fine if you pull the boot off. The boot just seems to be
> bunching up under the stick. Do they make some kind of a shifter
> extender or even and offset? If the shifter was offset an inch or so to
> the front then all would be cool. Thanks again guys. Much appreciation
> for your help.
>
> Jay
>
> L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>
> >Hi Jerry,
> > Yes, there is no vibration at the constant velocity universal joint
> >end that's usually at the transfer end, but there a heck of a vibration
> >at the single universal slip yoke end, if it's not straight with the
> >shaft. That's we always point the pinion directly at the transfer as in
> >the rear driveshaft:
> >http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/...iveshaftin.jpg
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> >mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >Jerry McG wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Most swb Jeeps need 5-7 degrees of caster or they'l be fairly squirrely. If
> >>you're as close as you say (4.7 & 5 degrees) you should be ok.
> >>
> >>TJs have a low pinion front axle and you may encounter a bit of
> >>driveline-induced vibration if you increase the caster. I'm not certain
> >>about your year TJ, but most I've seen have a cv-type inner u-joint that
> >>should reduce the driveline vibes. If you don't have one you might look into
> >>a custom shaft.
> >>
> >>
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Does that leave you with enough slip joint travel?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JVC wrote:
>
> Yes, I installed the transfer case lowering kit and motor mount spacers.
> The boot on the tub isn't a problem. The boot on the console is causing
> the problem. If I lift the boot from the console then it shifts fine. I
> don't think the SYE is necessary, but we'll see. Thanks.
>
> Eric wrote:
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JVC wrote:
>
> Yes, I installed the transfer case lowering kit and motor mount spacers.
> The boot on the tub isn't a problem. The boot on the console is causing
> the problem. If I lift the boot from the console then it shifts fine. I
> don't think the SYE is necessary, but we'll see. Thanks.
>
> Eric wrote:
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Does that leave you with enough slip joint travel?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JVC wrote:
>
> Yes, I installed the transfer case lowering kit and motor mount spacers.
> The boot on the tub isn't a problem. The boot on the console is causing
> the problem. If I lift the boot from the console then it shifts fine. I
> don't think the SYE is necessary, but we'll see. Thanks.
>
> Eric wrote:
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JVC wrote:
>
> Yes, I installed the transfer case lowering kit and motor mount spacers.
> The boot on the tub isn't a problem. The boot on the console is causing
> the problem. If I lift the boot from the console then it shifts fine. I
> don't think the SYE is necessary, but we'll see. Thanks.
>
> Eric wrote:
#46
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Does that leave you with enough slip joint travel?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JVC wrote:
>
> Yes, I installed the transfer case lowering kit and motor mount spacers.
> The boot on the tub isn't a problem. The boot on the console is causing
> the problem. If I lift the boot from the console then it shifts fine. I
> don't think the SYE is necessary, but we'll see. Thanks.
>
> Eric wrote:
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
JVC wrote:
>
> Yes, I installed the transfer case lowering kit and motor mount spacers.
> The boot on the tub isn't a problem. The boot on the console is causing
> the problem. If I lift the boot from the console then it shifts fine. I
> don't think the SYE is necessary, but we'll see. Thanks.
>
> Eric wrote:
#47
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
I double checked everything, including the lugs, with the torque wrench.
Driving me nuts!
Mike Romain wrote:
> First I would be checking the wheel lug nuts to see if one tire got left
> loose....
>
> Steering shake is unacceptable and can get dangerous fast in a Jeep.
>
> I suspect the shake and clunk are closely related.
>
> I think something has come loose.
>
> I have seen folks heat the shifter to bend it and/or take out the inner
> boot to give room.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JVC wrote:
>
>>Sorry guys, it's a 2004 Rubicon. The caster is no big deal. The main
>>things are the clunking I hear when making a right turn, the steering
>>wheel shake and the shifting.
>>
>>I can feel the clunking in the pedals, and even the stick, but only when
>>making a right turn. And I came to find that it's NOT only during a
>>tight turn, so I don't think adjusting the steering stop will make a
>>difference. Also, if it helps I can take pics with my digicam and post
>>them on the web if you want to see anything.
>>
>>The steering wheel shake seems to be worst at about 40 mph. Above and
>>below 40 the shake lessens considerably. I noticed the OEM steering
>>stabilizer on my '04 Rubi seems to be much flimsier than the one on my
>>old '98 Sport. Quadratec claimed I wouldn't need to change the steering
>>stabilizer, but maybe that would make a difference?
>>
>>The shifting is fine if you pull the boot off. The boot just seems to be
>>bunching up under the stick. Do they make some kind of a shifter
>>extender or even and offset? If the shifter was offset an inch or so to
>>the front then all would be cool. Thanks again guys. Much appreciation
>>for your help.
>>
>>Jay
>>
>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Jerry,
>>> Yes, there is no vibration at the constant velocity universal joint
>>>end that's usually at the transfer end, but there a heck of a vibration
>>>at the single universal slip yoke end, if it's not straight with the
>>>shaft. That's we always point the pinion directly at the transfer as in
>>>the rear driveshaft:
>>>http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/...iveshaftin.jpg
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Jerry McG wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Most swb Jeeps need 5-7 degrees of caster or they'l be fairly squirrely. If
>>>>you're as close as you say (4.7 & 5 degrees) you should be ok.
>>>>
>>>>TJs have a low pinion front axle and you may encounter a bit of
>>>>driveline-induced vibration if you increase the caster. I'm not certain
>>>>about your year TJ, but most I've seen have a cv-type inner u-joint that
>>>>should reduce the driveline vibes. If you don't have one you might look into
>>>>a custom shaft.
>>>>
>>>>
Driving me nuts!
Mike Romain wrote:
> First I would be checking the wheel lug nuts to see if one tire got left
> loose....
>
> Steering shake is unacceptable and can get dangerous fast in a Jeep.
>
> I suspect the shake and clunk are closely related.
>
> I think something has come loose.
>
> I have seen folks heat the shifter to bend it and/or take out the inner
> boot to give room.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JVC wrote:
>
>>Sorry guys, it's a 2004 Rubicon. The caster is no big deal. The main
>>things are the clunking I hear when making a right turn, the steering
>>wheel shake and the shifting.
>>
>>I can feel the clunking in the pedals, and even the stick, but only when
>>making a right turn. And I came to find that it's NOT only during a
>>tight turn, so I don't think adjusting the steering stop will make a
>>difference. Also, if it helps I can take pics with my digicam and post
>>them on the web if you want to see anything.
>>
>>The steering wheel shake seems to be worst at about 40 mph. Above and
>>below 40 the shake lessens considerably. I noticed the OEM steering
>>stabilizer on my '04 Rubi seems to be much flimsier than the one on my
>>old '98 Sport. Quadratec claimed I wouldn't need to change the steering
>>stabilizer, but maybe that would make a difference?
>>
>>The shifting is fine if you pull the boot off. The boot just seems to be
>>bunching up under the stick. Do they make some kind of a shifter
>>extender or even and offset? If the shifter was offset an inch or so to
>>the front then all would be cool. Thanks again guys. Much appreciation
>>for your help.
>>
>>Jay
>>
>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Jerry,
>>> Yes, there is no vibration at the constant velocity universal joint
>>>end that's usually at the transfer end, but there a heck of a vibration
>>>at the single universal slip yoke end, if it's not straight with the
>>>shaft. That's we always point the pinion directly at the transfer as in
>>>the rear driveshaft:
>>>http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/...iveshaftin.jpg
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Jerry McG wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Most swb Jeeps need 5-7 degrees of caster or they'l be fairly squirrely. If
>>>>you're as close as you say (4.7 & 5 degrees) you should be ok.
>>>>
>>>>TJs have a low pinion front axle and you may encounter a bit of
>>>>driveline-induced vibration if you increase the caster. I'm not certain
>>>>about your year TJ, but most I've seen have a cv-type inner u-joint that
>>>>should reduce the driveline vibes. If you don't have one you might look into
>>>>a custom shaft.
>>>>
>>>>
#48
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
I double checked everything, including the lugs, with the torque wrench.
Driving me nuts!
Mike Romain wrote:
> First I would be checking the wheel lug nuts to see if one tire got left
> loose....
>
> Steering shake is unacceptable and can get dangerous fast in a Jeep.
>
> I suspect the shake and clunk are closely related.
>
> I think something has come loose.
>
> I have seen folks heat the shifter to bend it and/or take out the inner
> boot to give room.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JVC wrote:
>
>>Sorry guys, it's a 2004 Rubicon. The caster is no big deal. The main
>>things are the clunking I hear when making a right turn, the steering
>>wheel shake and the shifting.
>>
>>I can feel the clunking in the pedals, and even the stick, but only when
>>making a right turn. And I came to find that it's NOT only during a
>>tight turn, so I don't think adjusting the steering stop will make a
>>difference. Also, if it helps I can take pics with my digicam and post
>>them on the web if you want to see anything.
>>
>>The steering wheel shake seems to be worst at about 40 mph. Above and
>>below 40 the shake lessens considerably. I noticed the OEM steering
>>stabilizer on my '04 Rubi seems to be much flimsier than the one on my
>>old '98 Sport. Quadratec claimed I wouldn't need to change the steering
>>stabilizer, but maybe that would make a difference?
>>
>>The shifting is fine if you pull the boot off. The boot just seems to be
>>bunching up under the stick. Do they make some kind of a shifter
>>extender or even and offset? If the shifter was offset an inch or so to
>>the front then all would be cool. Thanks again guys. Much appreciation
>>for your help.
>>
>>Jay
>>
>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Jerry,
>>> Yes, there is no vibration at the constant velocity universal joint
>>>end that's usually at the transfer end, but there a heck of a vibration
>>>at the single universal slip yoke end, if it's not straight with the
>>>shaft. That's we always point the pinion directly at the transfer as in
>>>the rear driveshaft:
>>>http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/...iveshaftin.jpg
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Jerry McG wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Most swb Jeeps need 5-7 degrees of caster or they'l be fairly squirrely. If
>>>>you're as close as you say (4.7 & 5 degrees) you should be ok.
>>>>
>>>>TJs have a low pinion front axle and you may encounter a bit of
>>>>driveline-induced vibration if you increase the caster. I'm not certain
>>>>about your year TJ, but most I've seen have a cv-type inner u-joint that
>>>>should reduce the driveline vibes. If you don't have one you might look into
>>>>a custom shaft.
>>>>
>>>>
Driving me nuts!
Mike Romain wrote:
> First I would be checking the wheel lug nuts to see if one tire got left
> loose....
>
> Steering shake is unacceptable and can get dangerous fast in a Jeep.
>
> I suspect the shake and clunk are closely related.
>
> I think something has come loose.
>
> I have seen folks heat the shifter to bend it and/or take out the inner
> boot to give room.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JVC wrote:
>
>>Sorry guys, it's a 2004 Rubicon. The caster is no big deal. The main
>>things are the clunking I hear when making a right turn, the steering
>>wheel shake and the shifting.
>>
>>I can feel the clunking in the pedals, and even the stick, but only when
>>making a right turn. And I came to find that it's NOT only during a
>>tight turn, so I don't think adjusting the steering stop will make a
>>difference. Also, if it helps I can take pics with my digicam and post
>>them on the web if you want to see anything.
>>
>>The steering wheel shake seems to be worst at about 40 mph. Above and
>>below 40 the shake lessens considerably. I noticed the OEM steering
>>stabilizer on my '04 Rubi seems to be much flimsier than the one on my
>>old '98 Sport. Quadratec claimed I wouldn't need to change the steering
>>stabilizer, but maybe that would make a difference?
>>
>>The shifting is fine if you pull the boot off. The boot just seems to be
>>bunching up under the stick. Do they make some kind of a shifter
>>extender or even and offset? If the shifter was offset an inch or so to
>>the front then all would be cool. Thanks again guys. Much appreciation
>>for your help.
>>
>>Jay
>>
>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Jerry,
>>> Yes, there is no vibration at the constant velocity universal joint
>>>end that's usually at the transfer end, but there a heck of a vibration
>>>at the single universal slip yoke end, if it's not straight with the
>>>shaft. That's we always point the pinion directly at the transfer as in
>>>the rear driveshaft:
>>>http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/...iveshaftin.jpg
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Jerry McG wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Most swb Jeeps need 5-7 degrees of caster or they'l be fairly squirrely. If
>>>>you're as close as you say (4.7 & 5 degrees) you should be ok.
>>>>
>>>>TJs have a low pinion front axle and you may encounter a bit of
>>>>driveline-induced vibration if you increase the caster. I'm not certain
>>>>about your year TJ, but most I've seen have a cv-type inner u-joint that
>>>>should reduce the driveline vibes. If you don't have one you might look into
>>>>a custom shaft.
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
I double checked everything, including the lugs, with the torque wrench.
Driving me nuts!
Mike Romain wrote:
> First I would be checking the wheel lug nuts to see if one tire got left
> loose....
>
> Steering shake is unacceptable and can get dangerous fast in a Jeep.
>
> I suspect the shake and clunk are closely related.
>
> I think something has come loose.
>
> I have seen folks heat the shifter to bend it and/or take out the inner
> boot to give room.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JVC wrote:
>
>>Sorry guys, it's a 2004 Rubicon. The caster is no big deal. The main
>>things are the clunking I hear when making a right turn, the steering
>>wheel shake and the shifting.
>>
>>I can feel the clunking in the pedals, and even the stick, but only when
>>making a right turn. And I came to find that it's NOT only during a
>>tight turn, so I don't think adjusting the steering stop will make a
>>difference. Also, if it helps I can take pics with my digicam and post
>>them on the web if you want to see anything.
>>
>>The steering wheel shake seems to be worst at about 40 mph. Above and
>>below 40 the shake lessens considerably. I noticed the OEM steering
>>stabilizer on my '04 Rubi seems to be much flimsier than the one on my
>>old '98 Sport. Quadratec claimed I wouldn't need to change the steering
>>stabilizer, but maybe that would make a difference?
>>
>>The shifting is fine if you pull the boot off. The boot just seems to be
>>bunching up under the stick. Do they make some kind of a shifter
>>extender or even and offset? If the shifter was offset an inch or so to
>>the front then all would be cool. Thanks again guys. Much appreciation
>>for your help.
>>
>>Jay
>>
>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Jerry,
>>> Yes, there is no vibration at the constant velocity universal joint
>>>end that's usually at the transfer end, but there a heck of a vibration
>>>at the single universal slip yoke end, if it's not straight with the
>>>shaft. That's we always point the pinion directly at the transfer as in
>>>the rear driveshaft:
>>>http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/...iveshaftin.jpg
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Jerry McG wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Most swb Jeeps need 5-7 degrees of caster or they'l be fairly squirrely. If
>>>>you're as close as you say (4.7 & 5 degrees) you should be ok.
>>>>
>>>>TJs have a low pinion front axle and you may encounter a bit of
>>>>driveline-induced vibration if you increase the caster. I'm not certain
>>>>about your year TJ, but most I've seen have a cv-type inner u-joint that
>>>>should reduce the driveline vibes. If you don't have one you might look into
>>>>a custom shaft.
>>>>
>>>>
Driving me nuts!
Mike Romain wrote:
> First I would be checking the wheel lug nuts to see if one tire got left
> loose....
>
> Steering shake is unacceptable and can get dangerous fast in a Jeep.
>
> I suspect the shake and clunk are closely related.
>
> I think something has come loose.
>
> I have seen folks heat the shifter to bend it and/or take out the inner
> boot to give room.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> JVC wrote:
>
>>Sorry guys, it's a 2004 Rubicon. The caster is no big deal. The main
>>things are the clunking I hear when making a right turn, the steering
>>wheel shake and the shifting.
>>
>>I can feel the clunking in the pedals, and even the stick, but only when
>>making a right turn. And I came to find that it's NOT only during a
>>tight turn, so I don't think adjusting the steering stop will make a
>>difference. Also, if it helps I can take pics with my digicam and post
>>them on the web if you want to see anything.
>>
>>The steering wheel shake seems to be worst at about 40 mph. Above and
>>below 40 the shake lessens considerably. I noticed the OEM steering
>>stabilizer on my '04 Rubi seems to be much flimsier than the one on my
>>old '98 Sport. Quadratec claimed I wouldn't need to change the steering
>>stabilizer, but maybe that would make a difference?
>>
>>The shifting is fine if you pull the boot off. The boot just seems to be
>>bunching up under the stick. Do they make some kind of a shifter
>>extender or even and offset? If the shifter was offset an inch or so to
>>the front then all would be cool. Thanks again guys. Much appreciation
>>for your help.
>>
>>Jay
>>
>>L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi Jerry,
>>> Yes, there is no vibration at the constant velocity universal joint
>>>end that's usually at the transfer end, but there a heck of a vibration
>>>at the single universal slip yoke end, if it's not straight with the
>>>shaft. That's we always point the pinion directly at the transfer as in
>>>the rear driveshaft:
>>>http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/reviews/...iveshaftin.jpg
>>> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>
>>>Jerry McG wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Most swb Jeeps need 5-7 degrees of caster or they'l be fairly squirrely. If
>>>>you're as close as you say (4.7 & 5 degrees) you should be ok.
>>>>
>>>>TJs have a low pinion front axle and you may encounter a bit of
>>>>driveline-induced vibration if you increase the caster. I'm not certain
>>>>about your year TJ, but most I've seen have a cv-type inner u-joint that
>>>>should reduce the driveline vibes. If you don't have one you might look into
>>>>a custom shaft.
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Thanks Bill. I will be calling Quadratec tonight.
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Jay,
> Oversized, and out of round tires, need oversized, or double
> stabilizer shock absorbers:
> http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Buildu..._stabilzer.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Jay,
> Oversized, and out of round tires, need oversized, or double
> stabilizer shock absorbers:
> http://www.wanderingtrail.com/Buildu..._stabilzer.htm
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/