Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
We're saying the same thing. He CURRENTLY has a drop kit AND an SYE
installed. Not me. I'd never do that. I don't know why the person he
bought it from did that. I was just saying to leave it alone if it works.
As you reiterated, if you removed the drop kit, it'll mess up the angle
again.
That was my point.....
Eric
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:18Mgd.14115$Al3.13310@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
> Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There is
> no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
> clearance. It buys you nothing.
>
> Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS and
> install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop kit, you
> would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your pinion,
> which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in this
> application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny difference
> in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause vibrations. So
> yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous example is correct.
>
> "Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
> remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
> etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the ridiculous
> category.
>
> Eric wrote:
>
>> Hah? What was that?
>>
>> If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
>> might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example --
>> I have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV
>> driveshaft and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the
>> same driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>>
>> Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
>> rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
>> remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>> news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>>
>>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>>
>>>Eric wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive
>>>>around the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short
>>>>drive isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25.
>>>>I hear that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>>
>>>>Eric
>>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the
>>>>>SYE?"
>>>>>
>>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>>
>>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>>
>>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>>kit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>>
>>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks
>>>>>to me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>>JimG
>>>>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
installed. Not me. I'd never do that. I don't know why the person he
bought it from did that. I was just saying to leave it alone if it works.
As you reiterated, if you removed the drop kit, it'll mess up the angle
again.
That was my point.....
Eric
"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:18Mgd.14115$Al3.13310@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
> Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There is
> no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
> clearance. It buys you nothing.
>
> Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS and
> install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop kit, you
> would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your pinion,
> which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in this
> application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny difference
> in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause vibrations. So
> yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous example is correct.
>
> "Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
> remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
> etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the ridiculous
> category.
>
> Eric wrote:
>
>> Hah? What was that?
>>
>> If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
>> might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example --
>> I have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV
>> driveshaft and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the
>> same driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>>
>> Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
>> rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
>> remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>>
>> Eric
>> 99 TJ SE
>> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>> news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>>
>>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>>
>>>Eric wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive
>>>>around the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short
>>>>drive isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25.
>>>>I hear that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>>
>>>>Eric
>>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the
>>>>>SYE?"
>>>>>
>>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>>
>>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>>
>>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>>kit.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>>
>>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks
>>>>>to me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>>JimG
>>>>>
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
#92
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
Eric wrote:
> We're saying the same thing. He CURRENTLY has a drop kit AND an SYE
> installed. Not me. I'd never do that. I don't know why the person he
> bought it from did that. I was just saying to leave it alone if it works.
> As you reiterated, if you removed the drop kit, it'll mess up the angle
> again.
>
> That was my point.....
>
> Eric
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:18Mgd.14115$Al3.13310@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There is
>>no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
>>clearance. It buys you nothing.
>>
>>Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS and
>>install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop kit, you
>>would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your pinion,
>>which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in this
>>application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny difference
>>in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause vibrations. So
>>yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous example is correct.
>>
>>"Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
>>remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
>>etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the ridiculous
>>category.
>>
>>Eric wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hah? What was that?
>>>
>>>If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
>>>might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example --
>>>I have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV
>>>driveshaft and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the
>>>same driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>>>
>>>Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
>>>rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
>>>remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>>>
>>>Eric
>>>99 TJ SE
>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>>>
>>>>Eric wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive
>>>>>around the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short
>>>>>drive isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25.
>>>>>I hear that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>>>
>>>>>Eric
>>>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the
>>>>>>SYE?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>>>kit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks
>>>>>>to me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>JimG
>>>>>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
Eric wrote:
> We're saying the same thing. He CURRENTLY has a drop kit AND an SYE
> installed. Not me. I'd never do that. I don't know why the person he
> bought it from did that. I was just saying to leave it alone if it works.
> As you reiterated, if you removed the drop kit, it'll mess up the angle
> again.
>
> That was my point.....
>
> Eric
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:18Mgd.14115$Al3.13310@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There is
>>no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
>>clearance. It buys you nothing.
>>
>>Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS and
>>install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop kit, you
>>would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your pinion,
>>which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in this
>>application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny difference
>>in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause vibrations. So
>>yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous example is correct.
>>
>>"Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
>>remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
>>etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the ridiculous
>>category.
>>
>>Eric wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hah? What was that?
>>>
>>>If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
>>>might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example --
>>>I have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV
>>>driveshaft and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the
>>>same driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>>>
>>>Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
>>>rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
>>>remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>>>
>>>Eric
>>>99 TJ SE
>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>>>
>>>>Eric wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive
>>>>>around the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short
>>>>>drive isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25.
>>>>>I hear that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>>>
>>>>>Eric
>>>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the
>>>>>>SYE?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>>>kit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks
>>>>>>to me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>JimG
>>>>>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
#93
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
Eric wrote:
> We're saying the same thing. He CURRENTLY has a drop kit AND an SYE
> installed. Not me. I'd never do that. I don't know why the person he
> bought it from did that. I was just saying to leave it alone if it works.
> As you reiterated, if you removed the drop kit, it'll mess up the angle
> again.
>
> That was my point.....
>
> Eric
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:18Mgd.14115$Al3.13310@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There is
>>no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
>>clearance. It buys you nothing.
>>
>>Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS and
>>install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop kit, you
>>would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your pinion,
>>which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in this
>>application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny difference
>>in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause vibrations. So
>>yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous example is correct.
>>
>>"Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
>>remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
>>etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the ridiculous
>>category.
>>
>>Eric wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hah? What was that?
>>>
>>>If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
>>>might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example --
>>>I have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV
>>>driveshaft and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the
>>>same driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>>>
>>>Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
>>>rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
>>>remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>>>
>>>Eric
>>>99 TJ SE
>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>>>
>>>>Eric wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive
>>>>>around the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short
>>>>>drive isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25.
>>>>>I hear that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>>>
>>>>>Eric
>>>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the
>>>>>>SYE?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>>>kit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks
>>>>>>to me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>JimG
>>>>>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
Eric wrote:
> We're saying the same thing. He CURRENTLY has a drop kit AND an SYE
> installed. Not me. I'd never do that. I don't know why the person he
> bought it from did that. I was just saying to leave it alone if it works.
> As you reiterated, if you removed the drop kit, it'll mess up the angle
> again.
>
> That was my point.....
>
> Eric
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:18Mgd.14115$Al3.13310@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There is
>>no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
>>clearance. It buys you nothing.
>>
>>Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS and
>>install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop kit, you
>>would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your pinion,
>>which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in this
>>application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny difference
>>in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause vibrations. So
>>yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous example is correct.
>>
>>"Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
>>remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
>>etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the ridiculous
>>category.
>>
>>Eric wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hah? What was that?
>>>
>>>If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
>>>might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example --
>>>I have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV
>>>driveshaft and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the
>>>same driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>>>
>>>Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
>>>rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
>>>remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>>>
>>>Eric
>>>99 TJ SE
>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>>>
>>>>Eric wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive
>>>>>around the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short
>>>>>drive isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25.
>>>>>I hear that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>>>
>>>>>Eric
>>>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the
>>>>>>SYE?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>>>kit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks
>>>>>>to me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>JimG
>>>>>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
Eric wrote:
> We're saying the same thing. He CURRENTLY has a drop kit AND an SYE
> installed. Not me. I'd never do that. I don't know why the person he
> bought it from did that. I was just saying to leave it alone if it works.
> As you reiterated, if you removed the drop kit, it'll mess up the angle
> again.
>
> That was my point.....
>
> Eric
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:18Mgd.14115$Al3.13310@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There is
>>no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
>>clearance. It buys you nothing.
>>
>>Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS and
>>install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop kit, you
>>would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your pinion,
>>which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in this
>>application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny difference
>>in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause vibrations. So
>>yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous example is correct.
>>
>>"Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
>>remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
>>etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the ridiculous
>>category.
>>
>>Eric wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hah? What was that?
>>>
>>>If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
>>>might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example --
>>>I have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV
>>>driveshaft and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the
>>>same driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>>>
>>>Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
>>>rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
>>>remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>>>
>>>Eric
>>>99 TJ SE
>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>>>
>>>>Eric wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive
>>>>>around the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short
>>>>>drive isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25.
>>>>>I hear that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>>>
>>>>>Eric
>>>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the
>>>>>>SYE?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>>>kit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks
>>>>>>to me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>JimG
>>>>>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
Eric wrote:
> We're saying the same thing. He CURRENTLY has a drop kit AND an SYE
> installed. Not me. I'd never do that. I don't know why the person he
> bought it from did that. I was just saying to leave it alone if it works.
> As you reiterated, if you removed the drop kit, it'll mess up the angle
> again.
>
> That was my point.....
>
> Eric
>
>
> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:18Mgd.14115$Al3.13310@newssvr30.news.prodigy. com...
>
>>Eric, I have NO idea what you are talking. Why would you do that? There is
>>no point in using a drop kit with the SYE/CV kit. It is a waste of
>>clearance. It buys you nothing.
>>
>>Secondly, even if you were inexperienced enough to measure for your DS and
>>install it with the drop kit in, and then later removed the drop kit, you
>>would only suffer driveline vibes if you did not re-adjust your pinion,
>>which you have to do anyway. The drive shaft you would use in this
>>application uses a slip shaft which would adjust for the tiny difference
>>in length once the drop kit was removed. It would NOT cause vibrations. So
>>yes, your statement that you are giving a ridiculous example is correct.
>>
>>"Fixing the pinion" is not that big of a deal and "grinding off and
>>remounting all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups,
>>etc)" is completely unnecessary. I'll also stuff that into the ridiculous
>>category.
>>
>>Eric wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hah? What was that?
>>>
>>>If you left the lowering kit in and measured for the new driveshaft, it
>>>might not be the right length, thus causing vibes. Rediculous example --
>>>I have 3" drop tubes. I install the SYE kit, measure for a new CV
>>>driveshaft and get it in. Oops, now I get rid of the tubes but use the
>>>same driveshaft. Could cause problems.
>>>
>>>Fixing the pinion can be a hassle for those that don't have leafs in the
>>>rear... if it had to be adjusted enough one would have to grind off and
>>>remount all of the mounts on the axle housing (shocks, spring cups, etc).
>>>
>>>Eric
>>>99 TJ SE
>>>"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
>>>news:2jEgd.14080$Al3.12354@newssvr30.news.prodi gy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>HAH??? If you have an SYE kit and CV driveshaft, you DO NOT NEED a
>>>>transfer case lowering kit. REMVOE IT. If you keep it, you are defeating
>>>>the purpose of the lift.....and I don't know where the 25mph figure comes
>>>>from. You would have to drive the thing for a while with serious vibes to
>>>>do any damage. Just adjust the pinion and you are fine.
>>>>
>>>>Eric wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>If it's good the way it is, I'd leave the kit on. Of course it isn't
>>>>>difficult to remove (10 minutes, max). You could remove it, drive
>>>>>around the block a few times and see what the vibes are like. A short
>>>>>drive isn't going to kill it -- if the vibes are bad, don't go over 25.
>>>>>I hear that's the "magic number" where damage starts to occur...
>>>>>
>>>>>Eric
>>>>>"JimG" <JimG@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:lRqgd.1004$oa5.544@news02.roc.ny...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>My question was "Did you remove your t-case lowering kit after the
>>>>>>SYE?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Eric" wrote in message ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Of course not! Why install an SYE and not remove the t-case kit?!?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>(contradiction)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>After re-reading your original post ("put the drivetrain back where it
>>>>>>should have been..."), I take it that you removed the t-case lowering
>>>>>>kit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Should've measured it without the lowering kit on...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Jeep had all that on (lift, t-case kit, SYE, CV drive shaft) when I
>>>>>>bought it. My rear drive shaft is practically a straight line. Looks
>>>>>>to me as if the t-case kit is not necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>JimG
>>>>>>
>>
>>--
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>tw
>>
>>03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
>>01 XJ Sport
>>
>>There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
>>-- Dave Barry
>>
>>Pronunciation: 'jEp
>>Function: noun
>>Date: 1940
>>
>>Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
>>A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
>>1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
>>World War II.
>>
>>(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
>>________________________________________________ ___________
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Hi twaldron (and others),
The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
CV shaft?
See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
JimG
"twaldron" wrote in message ...
> Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
> drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
> clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
> distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
> drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
> concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>
The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
CV shaft?
See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
JimG
"twaldron" wrote in message ...
> Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
> drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
> clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
> distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
> drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
> concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>
#96
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Hi twaldron (and others),
The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
CV shaft?
See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
JimG
"twaldron" wrote in message ...
> Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
> drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
> clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
> distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
> drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
> concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>
The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
CV shaft?
See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
JimG
"twaldron" wrote in message ...
> Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
> drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
> clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
> distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
> drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
> concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>
#97
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Hi twaldron (and others),
The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
CV shaft?
See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
JimG
"twaldron" wrote in message ...
> Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
> drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
> clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
> distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
> drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
> concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>
The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
CV shaft?
See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
JimG
"twaldron" wrote in message ...
> Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
> drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
> clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
> distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
> drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
> concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms.
:) I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control
arms or not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming
you do since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem
too far off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion
directly at the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is
your drop kit still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to
be at a correct attitude.
JimG wrote:
> Hi twaldron (and others),
>
> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
> adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
> CV shaft?
> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>
> JimG
>
> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
>
>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms.
:) I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control
arms or not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming
you do since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem
too far off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion
directly at the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is
your drop kit still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to
be at a correct attitude.
JimG wrote:
> Hi twaldron (and others),
>
> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
> adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
> CV shaft?
> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>
> JimG
>
> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
>
>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms.
:) I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control
arms or not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming
you do since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem
too far off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion
directly at the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is
your drop kit still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to
be at a correct attitude.
JimG wrote:
> Hi twaldron (and others),
>
> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
> adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
> CV shaft?
> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>
> JimG
>
> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
>
>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>
>
>
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71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms.
:) I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control
arms or not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming
you do since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem
too far off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion
directly at the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is
your drop kit still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to
be at a correct attitude.
JimG wrote:
> Hi twaldron (and others),
>
> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
> adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
> CV shaft?
> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>
> JimG
>
> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
>
>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>
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>
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__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
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Re: Black Diamond Suspension Lift Installed-questions
Don't apologize, we all started at the beginning.
The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms.
:) I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control
arms or not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming
you do since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem
too far off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion
directly at the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is
your drop kit still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to
be at a correct attitude.
JimG wrote:
> Hi twaldron (and others),
>
> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
> adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
> CV shaft?
> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>
> JimG
>
> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
>
>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________
The easiest way to adjust your pinion is with adjustable control arms.
:) I can't tell by your picture if you have adjustable upper control
arms or not, but you have the factory ones on the bottom. I'm assuming
you do since (hard to tell by the pic) your pinion angle does not seem
too far off. With a CV driveshaft you will want to point your pinion
directly at the output shaft of the xfer case to eliminate vibes. Is
your drop kit still installed? Maybe that's why the driveshaft looks to
be at a correct attitude.
JimG wrote:
> Hi twaldron (and others),
>
> The mechanics of the TJ are new to me, so excuse my ignorance. How dose one
> adjust the pinion angle and is it absolutely necessary being that I have the
> CV shaft?
> See drive line angle here (with t-case lower kit still installed):
> http://www.citlink.net/~gunnoes/Photos/DriveLine.JPG
>
> JimG
>
> "twaldron" wrote in message ...
>
>>Ah, gotcha Eric. Then we agree except for whether or not to leave in the
>>drop kit. I'd take it out and readjust the pinion. It'd be the cheapest
>>clearance gain in the history of Jeepin'. Also, the difference in the
>>distance between the xfer case output to the pinion, with or without the
>>drop kit, is inconsequential as far as the length of the driveshaft is
>>concerned, so he can keep his CV shaft.
>>
>
>
>
--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw
71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport
There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry
Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940
Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.
(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
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