Availability of a 360 in a Jeep CJ
05-05-2004, 10:47 AM
#61
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Re: Availability of a 360 in a Jeep CJ
I agree with you 100% that the burden of proof should be on the member
with the CJ. The problem is, the head tech has already agreed to let
him run and I am representing the rest of the stock class racer's
trying to prove that this set-up is illegal. Somehow it has become
our duty. They are requiring an official document (manufacturer,
dealer, etc.) proving it was not an option. Pretty tough, huh. Thank
you for the help.
Jody
Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:<Pine.NEB.4.58.0405041412110.17232@panix2.pan ix.com>...
> I think that you might be trying to prove a negative. Looking through my
> books here and after a bit of a Google search, it _looks_ like the CJ
> series only had the 304 V8 as an alternate engine (and made it moderately
> overpowered), and that option went away in 1981. Why not put the burden
> of proof on your petitioner? Make him come up with a factory line slip
> showing the factory installing the 360, or a letter from his Engineer on
> D-C letterhead, or even a print ad or review showing it as an option for
> his model-year.
>
>
> On Tue, 4 May 2004, Jody Heard wrote:
>
> > I would appreciate any and all help anyone could provide me on this
> > subject. I am doing research for the Mud Racing organization I belong
> > to, www.swmmra.org. We have a possible member who would like to join
> > our Stock Class with a CJ-7 running a 360. Our Stock Class rules state
> > that the engine must be available for that truck, that year. I have
> > been researching this for quite some time and all of the information I
> > can come accross states that the 360 was only offered in the j-10
> > pickup and the full size Cherokee. Not in the CJ's. The individual
> > claims that he has spoken to an engineer at Chrysler and that it was a
> > dealer option in which the factory would install a 360 if the
> > dealership requested even though it was never officially listed. This
> > is similar to the COPO Camaros etc. If some one could point me to a
> > definitive, reputable source (ie. dealer, manufacturer info) I would
> > greatly appreciate it.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Jody Heard
> >
with the CJ. The problem is, the head tech has already agreed to let
him run and I am representing the rest of the stock class racer's
trying to prove that this set-up is illegal. Somehow it has become
our duty. They are requiring an official document (manufacturer,
dealer, etc.) proving it was not an option. Pretty tough, huh. Thank
you for the help.
Jody
Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:<Pine.NEB.4.58.0405041412110.17232@panix2.pan ix.com>...
> I think that you might be trying to prove a negative. Looking through my
> books here and after a bit of a Google search, it _looks_ like the CJ
> series only had the 304 V8 as an alternate engine (and made it moderately
> overpowered), and that option went away in 1981. Why not put the burden
> of proof on your petitioner? Make him come up with a factory line slip
> showing the factory installing the 360, or a letter from his Engineer on
> D-C letterhead, or even a print ad or review showing it as an option for
> his model-year.
>
>
> On Tue, 4 May 2004, Jody Heard wrote:
>
> > I would appreciate any and all help anyone could provide me on this
> > subject. I am doing research for the Mud Racing organization I belong
> > to, www.swmmra.org. We have a possible member who would like to join
> > our Stock Class with a CJ-7 running a 360. Our Stock Class rules state
> > that the engine must be available for that truck, that year. I have
> > been researching this for quite some time and all of the information I
> > can come accross states that the 360 was only offered in the j-10
> > pickup and the full size Cherokee. Not in the CJ's. The individual
> > claims that he has spoken to an engineer at Chrysler and that it was a
> > dealer option in which the factory would install a 360 if the
> > dealership requested even though it was never officially listed. This
> > is similar to the COPO Camaros etc. If some one could point me to a
> > definitive, reputable source (ie. dealer, manufacturer info) I would
> > greatly appreciate it.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Jody Heard
> >
05-05-2004, 10:52 AM
#62
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Re: Availability of a 360 in a Jeep CJ
Simple then.
Just get your hands on a CJ factory maintenance manual.
You will only find the 304 listed there.
If the factory manual does not list the engine as something to repair or
as an option, then it was not.
This changes the onus over to him to get his build sheet.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jody Heard wrote:
>
> I agree with you 100% that the burden of proof should be on the member
> with the CJ. The problem is, the head tech has already agreed to let
> him run and I am representing the rest of the stock class racer's
> trying to prove that this set-up is illegal. Somehow it has become
> our duty. They are requiring an official document (manufacturer,
> dealer, etc.) proving it was not an option. Pretty tough, huh. Thank
> you for the help.
>
> Jody
>
> Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:<Pine.NEB.4.58.0405041412110.17232@panix2.pan ix.com>...
> > I think that you might be trying to prove a negative. Looking through my
> > books here and after a bit of a Google search, it _looks_ like the CJ
> > series only had the 304 V8 as an alternate engine (and made it moderately
> > overpowered), and that option went away in 1981. Why not put the burden
> > of proof on your petitioner? Make him come up with a factory line slip
> > showing the factory installing the 360, or a letter from his Engineer on
> > D-C letterhead, or even a print ad or review showing it as an option for
> > his model-year.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 4 May 2004, Jody Heard wrote:
> >
> > > I would appreciate any and all help anyone could provide me on this
> > > subject. I am doing research for the Mud Racing organization I belong
> > > to, www.swmmra.org. We have a possible member who would like to join
> > > our Stock Class with a CJ-7 running a 360. Our Stock Class rules state
> > > that the engine must be available for that truck, that year. I have
> > > been researching this for quite some time and all of the information I
> > > can come accross states that the 360 was only offered in the j-10
> > > pickup and the full size Cherokee. Not in the CJ's. The individual
> > > claims that he has spoken to an engineer at Chrysler and that it was a
> > > dealer option in which the factory would install a 360 if the
> > > dealership requested even though it was never officially listed. This
> > > is similar to the COPO Camaros etc. If some one could point me to a
> > > definitive, reputable source (ie. dealer, manufacturer info) I would
> > > greatly appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Jody Heard
> > >
Just get your hands on a CJ factory maintenance manual.
You will only find the 304 listed there.
If the factory manual does not list the engine as something to repair or
as an option, then it was not.
This changes the onus over to him to get his build sheet.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jody Heard wrote:
>
> I agree with you 100% that the burden of proof should be on the member
> with the CJ. The problem is, the head tech has already agreed to let
> him run and I am representing the rest of the stock class racer's
> trying to prove that this set-up is illegal. Somehow it has become
> our duty. They are requiring an official document (manufacturer,
> dealer, etc.) proving it was not an option. Pretty tough, huh. Thank
> you for the help.
>
> Jody
>
> Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:<Pine.NEB.4.58.0405041412110.17232@panix2.pan ix.com>...
> > I think that you might be trying to prove a negative. Looking through my
> > books here and after a bit of a Google search, it _looks_ like the CJ
> > series only had the 304 V8 as an alternate engine (and made it moderately
> > overpowered), and that option went away in 1981. Why not put the burden
> > of proof on your petitioner? Make him come up with a factory line slip
> > showing the factory installing the 360, or a letter from his Engineer on
> > D-C letterhead, or even a print ad or review showing it as an option for
> > his model-year.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 4 May 2004, Jody Heard wrote:
> >
> > > I would appreciate any and all help anyone could provide me on this
> > > subject. I am doing research for the Mud Racing organization I belong
> > > to, www.swmmra.org. We have a possible member who would like to join
> > > our Stock Class with a CJ-7 running a 360. Our Stock Class rules state
> > > that the engine must be available for that truck, that year. I have
> > > been researching this for quite some time and all of the information I
> > > can come accross states that the 360 was only offered in the j-10
> > > pickup and the full size Cherokee. Not in the CJ's. The individual
> > > claims that he has spoken to an engineer at Chrysler and that it was a
> > > dealer option in which the factory would install a 360 if the
> > > dealership requested even though it was never officially listed. This
> > > is similar to the COPO Camaros etc. If some one could point me to a
> > > definitive, reputable source (ie. dealer, manufacturer info) I would
> > > greatly appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Jody Heard
> > >
05-05-2004, 10:52 AM
#63
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Re: Availability of a 360 in a Jeep CJ
Simple then.
Just get your hands on a CJ factory maintenance manual.
You will only find the 304 listed there.
If the factory manual does not list the engine as something to repair or
as an option, then it was not.
This changes the onus over to him to get his build sheet.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jody Heard wrote:
>
> I agree with you 100% that the burden of proof should be on the member
> with the CJ. The problem is, the head tech has already agreed to let
> him run and I am representing the rest of the stock class racer's
> trying to prove that this set-up is illegal. Somehow it has become
> our duty. They are requiring an official document (manufacturer,
> dealer, etc.) proving it was not an option. Pretty tough, huh. Thank
> you for the help.
>
> Jody
>
> Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:<Pine.NEB.4.58.0405041412110.17232@panix2.pan ix.com>...
> > I think that you might be trying to prove a negative. Looking through my
> > books here and after a bit of a Google search, it _looks_ like the CJ
> > series only had the 304 V8 as an alternate engine (and made it moderately
> > overpowered), and that option went away in 1981. Why not put the burden
> > of proof on your petitioner? Make him come up with a factory line slip
> > showing the factory installing the 360, or a letter from his Engineer on
> > D-C letterhead, or even a print ad or review showing it as an option for
> > his model-year.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 4 May 2004, Jody Heard wrote:
> >
> > > I would appreciate any and all help anyone could provide me on this
> > > subject. I am doing research for the Mud Racing organization I belong
> > > to, www.swmmra.org. We have a possible member who would like to join
> > > our Stock Class with a CJ-7 running a 360. Our Stock Class rules state
> > > that the engine must be available for that truck, that year. I have
> > > been researching this for quite some time and all of the information I
> > > can come accross states that the 360 was only offered in the j-10
> > > pickup and the full size Cherokee. Not in the CJ's. The individual
> > > claims that he has spoken to an engineer at Chrysler and that it was a
> > > dealer option in which the factory would install a 360 if the
> > > dealership requested even though it was never officially listed. This
> > > is similar to the COPO Camaros etc. If some one could point me to a
> > > definitive, reputable source (ie. dealer, manufacturer info) I would
> > > greatly appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Jody Heard
> > >
Just get your hands on a CJ factory maintenance manual.
You will only find the 304 listed there.
If the factory manual does not list the engine as something to repair or
as an option, then it was not.
This changes the onus over to him to get his build sheet.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jody Heard wrote:
>
> I agree with you 100% that the burden of proof should be on the member
> with the CJ. The problem is, the head tech has already agreed to let
> him run and I am representing the rest of the stock class racer's
> trying to prove that this set-up is illegal. Somehow it has become
> our duty. They are requiring an official document (manufacturer,
> dealer, etc.) proving it was not an option. Pretty tough, huh. Thank
> you for the help.
>
> Jody
>
> Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:<Pine.NEB.4.58.0405041412110.17232@panix2.pan ix.com>...
> > I think that you might be trying to prove a negative. Looking through my
> > books here and after a bit of a Google search, it _looks_ like the CJ
> > series only had the 304 V8 as an alternate engine (and made it moderately
> > overpowered), and that option went away in 1981. Why not put the burden
> > of proof on your petitioner? Make him come up with a factory line slip
> > showing the factory installing the 360, or a letter from his Engineer on
> > D-C letterhead, or even a print ad or review showing it as an option for
> > his model-year.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 4 May 2004, Jody Heard wrote:
> >
> > > I would appreciate any and all help anyone could provide me on this
> > > subject. I am doing research for the Mud Racing organization I belong
> > > to, www.swmmra.org. We have a possible member who would like to join
> > > our Stock Class with a CJ-7 running a 360. Our Stock Class rules state
> > > that the engine must be available for that truck, that year. I have
> > > been researching this for quite some time and all of the information I
> > > can come accross states that the 360 was only offered in the j-10
> > > pickup and the full size Cherokee. Not in the CJ's. The individual
> > > claims that he has spoken to an engineer at Chrysler and that it was a
> > > dealer option in which the factory would install a 360 if the
> > > dealership requested even though it was never officially listed. This
> > > is similar to the COPO Camaros etc. If some one could point me to a
> > > definitive, reputable source (ie. dealer, manufacturer info) I would
> > > greatly appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Jody Heard
> > >
05-05-2004, 10:52 AM
#64
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Re: Availability of a 360 in a Jeep CJ
Simple then.
Just get your hands on a CJ factory maintenance manual.
You will only find the 304 listed there.
If the factory manual does not list the engine as something to repair or
as an option, then it was not.
This changes the onus over to him to get his build sheet.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jody Heard wrote:
>
> I agree with you 100% that the burden of proof should be on the member
> with the CJ. The problem is, the head tech has already agreed to let
> him run and I am representing the rest of the stock class racer's
> trying to prove that this set-up is illegal. Somehow it has become
> our duty. They are requiring an official document (manufacturer,
> dealer, etc.) proving it was not an option. Pretty tough, huh. Thank
> you for the help.
>
> Jody
>
> Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:<Pine.NEB.4.58.0405041412110.17232@panix2.pan ix.com>...
> > I think that you might be trying to prove a negative. Looking through my
> > books here and after a bit of a Google search, it _looks_ like the CJ
> > series only had the 304 V8 as an alternate engine (and made it moderately
> > overpowered), and that option went away in 1981. Why not put the burden
> > of proof on your petitioner? Make him come up with a factory line slip
> > showing the factory installing the 360, or a letter from his Engineer on
> > D-C letterhead, or even a print ad or review showing it as an option for
> > his model-year.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 4 May 2004, Jody Heard wrote:
> >
> > > I would appreciate any and all help anyone could provide me on this
> > > subject. I am doing research for the Mud Racing organization I belong
> > > to, www.swmmra.org. We have a possible member who would like to join
> > > our Stock Class with a CJ-7 running a 360. Our Stock Class rules state
> > > that the engine must be available for that truck, that year. I have
> > > been researching this for quite some time and all of the information I
> > > can come accross states that the 360 was only offered in the j-10
> > > pickup and the full size Cherokee. Not in the CJ's. The individual
> > > claims that he has spoken to an engineer at Chrysler and that it was a
> > > dealer option in which the factory would install a 360 if the
> > > dealership requested even though it was never officially listed. This
> > > is similar to the COPO Camaros etc. If some one could point me to a
> > > definitive, reputable source (ie. dealer, manufacturer info) I would
> > > greatly appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Jody Heard
> > >
Just get your hands on a CJ factory maintenance manual.
You will only find the 304 listed there.
If the factory manual does not list the engine as something to repair or
as an option, then it was not.
This changes the onus over to him to get his build sheet.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jody Heard wrote:
>
> I agree with you 100% that the burden of proof should be on the member
> with the CJ. The problem is, the head tech has already agreed to let
> him run and I am representing the rest of the stock class racer's
> trying to prove that this set-up is illegal. Somehow it has become
> our duty. They are requiring an official document (manufacturer,
> dealer, etc.) proving it was not an option. Pretty tough, huh. Thank
> you for the help.
>
> Jody
>
> Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:<Pine.NEB.4.58.0405041412110.17232@panix2.pan ix.com>...
> > I think that you might be trying to prove a negative. Looking through my
> > books here and after a bit of a Google search, it _looks_ like the CJ
> > series only had the 304 V8 as an alternate engine (and made it moderately
> > overpowered), and that option went away in 1981. Why not put the burden
> > of proof on your petitioner? Make him come up with a factory line slip
> > showing the factory installing the 360, or a letter from his Engineer on
> > D-C letterhead, or even a print ad or review showing it as an option for
> > his model-year.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 4 May 2004, Jody Heard wrote:
> >
> > > I would appreciate any and all help anyone could provide me on this
> > > subject. I am doing research for the Mud Racing organization I belong
> > > to, www.swmmra.org. We have a possible member who would like to join
> > > our Stock Class with a CJ-7 running a 360. Our Stock Class rules state
> > > that the engine must be available for that truck, that year. I have
> > > been researching this for quite some time and all of the information I
> > > can come accross states that the 360 was only offered in the j-10
> > > pickup and the full size Cherokee. Not in the CJ's. The individual
> > > claims that he has spoken to an engineer at Chrysler and that it was a
> > > dealer option in which the factory would install a 360 if the
> > > dealership requested even though it was never officially listed. This
> > > is similar to the COPO Camaros etc. If some one could point me to a
> > > definitive, reputable source (ie. dealer, manufacturer info) I would
> > > greatly appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Jody Heard
> > >
05-05-2004, 10:52 AM
#65
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Re: Availability of a 360 in a Jeep CJ
Simple then.
Just get your hands on a CJ factory maintenance manual.
You will only find the 304 listed there.
If the factory manual does not list the engine as something to repair or
as an option, then it was not.
This changes the onus over to him to get his build sheet.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jody Heard wrote:
>
> I agree with you 100% that the burden of proof should be on the member
> with the CJ. The problem is, the head tech has already agreed to let
> him run and I am representing the rest of the stock class racer's
> trying to prove that this set-up is illegal. Somehow it has become
> our duty. They are requiring an official document (manufacturer,
> dealer, etc.) proving it was not an option. Pretty tough, huh. Thank
> you for the help.
>
> Jody
>
> Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:<Pine.NEB.4.58.0405041412110.17232@panix2.pan ix.com>...
> > I think that you might be trying to prove a negative. Looking through my
> > books here and after a bit of a Google search, it _looks_ like the CJ
> > series only had the 304 V8 as an alternate engine (and made it moderately
> > overpowered), and that option went away in 1981. Why not put the burden
> > of proof on your petitioner? Make him come up with a factory line slip
> > showing the factory installing the 360, or a letter from his Engineer on
> > D-C letterhead, or even a print ad or review showing it as an option for
> > his model-year.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 4 May 2004, Jody Heard wrote:
> >
> > > I would appreciate any and all help anyone could provide me on this
> > > subject. I am doing research for the Mud Racing organization I belong
> > > to, www.swmmra.org. We have a possible member who would like to join
> > > our Stock Class with a CJ-7 running a 360. Our Stock Class rules state
> > > that the engine must be available for that truck, that year. I have
> > > been researching this for quite some time and all of the information I
> > > can come accross states that the 360 was only offered in the j-10
> > > pickup and the full size Cherokee. Not in the CJ's. The individual
> > > claims that he has spoken to an engineer at Chrysler and that it was a
> > > dealer option in which the factory would install a 360 if the
> > > dealership requested even though it was never officially listed. This
> > > is similar to the COPO Camaros etc. If some one could point me to a
> > > definitive, reputable source (ie. dealer, manufacturer info) I would
> > > greatly appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Jody Heard
> > >
Just get your hands on a CJ factory maintenance manual.
You will only find the 304 listed there.
If the factory manual does not list the engine as something to repair or
as an option, then it was not.
This changes the onus over to him to get his build sheet.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Jody Heard wrote:
>
> I agree with you 100% that the burden of proof should be on the member
> with the CJ. The problem is, the head tech has already agreed to let
> him run and I am representing the rest of the stock class racer's
> trying to prove that this set-up is illegal. Somehow it has become
> our duty. They are requiring an official document (manufacturer,
> dealer, etc.) proving it was not an option. Pretty tough, huh. Thank
> you for the help.
>
> Jody
>
> Lee Ayrton <layrton@panix.com> wrote in message news:<Pine.NEB.4.58.0405041412110.17232@panix2.pan ix.com>...
> > I think that you might be trying to prove a negative. Looking through my
> > books here and after a bit of a Google search, it _looks_ like the CJ
> > series only had the 304 V8 as an alternate engine (and made it moderately
> > overpowered), and that option went away in 1981. Why not put the burden
> > of proof on your petitioner? Make him come up with a factory line slip
> > showing the factory installing the 360, or a letter from his Engineer on
> > D-C letterhead, or even a print ad or review showing it as an option for
> > his model-year.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 4 May 2004, Jody Heard wrote:
> >
> > > I would appreciate any and all help anyone could provide me on this
> > > subject. I am doing research for the Mud Racing organization I belong
> > > to, www.swmmra.org. We have a possible member who would like to join
> > > our Stock Class with a CJ-7 running a 360. Our Stock Class rules state
> > > that the engine must be available for that truck, that year. I have
> > > been researching this for quite some time and all of the information I
> > > can come accross states that the 360 was only offered in the j-10
> > > pickup and the full size Cherokee. Not in the CJ's. The individual
> > > claims that he has spoken to an engineer at Chrysler and that it was a
> > > dealer option in which the factory would install a 360 if the
> > > dealership requested even though it was never officially listed. This
> > > is similar to the COPO Camaros etc. If some one could point me to a
> > > definitive, reputable source (ie. dealer, manufacturer info) I would
> > > greatly appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Jody Heard
> > >
05-05-2004, 01:01 PM
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Re: Availability of a 360 in a Jeep CJ
Roger.. must have misread..
"ks" <co_big_cheese@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:y87mc.19$pu6.16314@news.uswest.net...
> I think he meant to respond to CRWLR's statement that offroad.coms grid
was
> in error.
>
> "Richard Harris" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:v90mc.109$qn6.32@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > Bill, Sean is right. CJ5's were not offered with the 304 after 79. And
> Cj7's
> > lost them in 82. Check in the Jeep owners bible.... Don't chew his head
> off
> > for disagreeing with you....???
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4098520F.2D994A29@***.net...
> > > Then Sean, YOU should write Off-Road and tell they don't know what
> > > they're talking about.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Sean Prinz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The last year for the 304 in a CJ-5 was 1979. The 304 was available
> for
> > a
> > > > couple more years in the CJ-7 but not the 5 IIRC.
> > > >
> > > > Sean
> >
> >
>
>
"ks" <co_big_cheese@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:y87mc.19$pu6.16314@news.uswest.net...
> I think he meant to respond to CRWLR's statement that offroad.coms grid
was
> in error.
>
> "Richard Harris" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:v90mc.109$qn6.32@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > Bill, Sean is right. CJ5's were not offered with the 304 after 79. And
> Cj7's
> > lost them in 82. Check in the Jeep owners bible.... Don't chew his head
> off
> > for disagreeing with you....???
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4098520F.2D994A29@***.net...
> > > Then Sean, YOU should write Off-Road and tell they don't know what
> > > they're talking about.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Sean Prinz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The last year for the 304 in a CJ-5 was 1979. The 304 was available
> for
> > a
> > > > couple more years in the CJ-7 but not the 5 IIRC.
> > > >
> > > > Sean
> >
> >
>
>
05-05-2004, 01:01 PM
#67
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Re: Availability of a 360 in a Jeep CJ
Roger.. must have misread..
"ks" <co_big_cheese@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:y87mc.19$pu6.16314@news.uswest.net...
> I think he meant to respond to CRWLR's statement that offroad.coms grid
was
> in error.
>
> "Richard Harris" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:v90mc.109$qn6.32@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > Bill, Sean is right. CJ5's were not offered with the 304 after 79. And
> Cj7's
> > lost them in 82. Check in the Jeep owners bible.... Don't chew his head
> off
> > for disagreeing with you....???
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4098520F.2D994A29@***.net...
> > > Then Sean, YOU should write Off-Road and tell they don't know what
> > > they're talking about.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Sean Prinz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The last year for the 304 in a CJ-5 was 1979. The 304 was available
> for
> > a
> > > > couple more years in the CJ-7 but not the 5 IIRC.
> > > >
> > > > Sean
> >
> >
>
>
"ks" <co_big_cheese@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:y87mc.19$pu6.16314@news.uswest.net...
> I think he meant to respond to CRWLR's statement that offroad.coms grid
was
> in error.
>
> "Richard Harris" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:v90mc.109$qn6.32@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > Bill, Sean is right. CJ5's were not offered with the 304 after 79. And
> Cj7's
> > lost them in 82. Check in the Jeep owners bible.... Don't chew his head
> off
> > for disagreeing with you....???
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4098520F.2D994A29@***.net...
> > > Then Sean, YOU should write Off-Road and tell they don't know what
> > > they're talking about.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Sean Prinz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The last year for the 304 in a CJ-5 was 1979. The 304 was available
> for
> > a
> > > > couple more years in the CJ-7 but not the 5 IIRC.
> > > >
> > > > Sean
> >
> >
>
>
05-05-2004, 01:01 PM
#68
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Re: Availability of a 360 in a Jeep CJ
Roger.. must have misread..
"ks" <co_big_cheese@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:y87mc.19$pu6.16314@news.uswest.net...
> I think he meant to respond to CRWLR's statement that offroad.coms grid
was
> in error.
>
> "Richard Harris" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:v90mc.109$qn6.32@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > Bill, Sean is right. CJ5's were not offered with the 304 after 79. And
> Cj7's
> > lost them in 82. Check in the Jeep owners bible.... Don't chew his head
> off
> > for disagreeing with you....???
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4098520F.2D994A29@***.net...
> > > Then Sean, YOU should write Off-Road and tell they don't know what
> > > they're talking about.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Sean Prinz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The last year for the 304 in a CJ-5 was 1979. The 304 was available
> for
> > a
> > > > couple more years in the CJ-7 but not the 5 IIRC.
> > > >
> > > > Sean
> >
> >
>
>
"ks" <co_big_cheese@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:y87mc.19$pu6.16314@news.uswest.net...
> I think he meant to respond to CRWLR's statement that offroad.coms grid
was
> in error.
>
> "Richard Harris" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:v90mc.109$qn6.32@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > Bill, Sean is right. CJ5's were not offered with the 304 after 79. And
> Cj7's
> > lost them in 82. Check in the Jeep owners bible.... Don't chew his head
> off
> > for disagreeing with you....???
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4098520F.2D994A29@***.net...
> > > Then Sean, YOU should write Off-Road and tell they don't know what
> > > they're talking about.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Sean Prinz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The last year for the 304 in a CJ-5 was 1979. The 304 was available
> for
> > a
> > > > couple more years in the CJ-7 but not the 5 IIRC.
> > > >
> > > > Sean
> >
> >
>
>
05-05-2004, 01:01 PM
#69
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Re: Availability of a 360 in a Jeep CJ
Roger.. must have misread..
"ks" <co_big_cheese@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:y87mc.19$pu6.16314@news.uswest.net...
> I think he meant to respond to CRWLR's statement that offroad.coms grid
was
> in error.
>
> "Richard Harris" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:v90mc.109$qn6.32@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > Bill, Sean is right. CJ5's were not offered with the 304 after 79. And
> Cj7's
> > lost them in 82. Check in the Jeep owners bible.... Don't chew his head
> off
> > for disagreeing with you....???
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4098520F.2D994A29@***.net...
> > > Then Sean, YOU should write Off-Road and tell they don't know what
> > > they're talking about.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Sean Prinz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The last year for the 304 in a CJ-5 was 1979. The 304 was available
> for
> > a
> > > > couple more years in the CJ-7 but not the 5 IIRC.
> > > >
> > > > Sean
> >
> >
>
>
"ks" <co_big_cheese@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:y87mc.19$pu6.16314@news.uswest.net...
> I think he meant to respond to CRWLR's statement that offroad.coms grid
was
> in error.
>
> "Richard Harris" <SHARRIS11nospam@san.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:v90mc.109$qn6.32@twister.socal.rr.com...
> > Bill, Sean is right. CJ5's were not offered with the 304 after 79. And
> Cj7's
> > lost them in 82. Check in the Jeep owners bible.... Don't chew his head
> off
> > for disagreeing with you....???
> >
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:4098520F.2D994A29@***.net...
> > > Then Sean, YOU should write Off-Road and tell they don't know what
> > > they're talking about.
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Sean Prinz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The last year for the 304 in a CJ-5 was 1979. The 304 was available
> for
> > a
> > > > couple more years in the CJ-7 but not the 5 IIRC.
> > > >
> > > > Sean
> >
> >
>
>
05-05-2004, 02:12 PM
#70
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Re: Availability of a 360 in a Jeep CJ
Hi Mike,
American Motors Corp. could have easily sponsered race team like
Ford and Chevrolet did and called them factory experimental. It's their
engine, just like Chevy's 427 Camaros only came with the 396 or the the
429 over head cam went into the Mustang or Fairlane that ordinarily max.
at 427, 428, 429 push rod, and the 426 Hemi went into the little Super
Bee. If AMC didn't then no wonder they went down the tubes. They were
running a full out Javelin earlier.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Simple then.
>
> Just get your hands on a CJ factory maintenance manual.
>
> You will only find the 304 listed there.
>
> If the factory manual does not list the engine as something to repair or
> as an option, then it was not.
>
> This changes the onus over to him to get his build sheet.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
American Motors Corp. could have easily sponsered race team like
Ford and Chevrolet did and called them factory experimental. It's their
engine, just like Chevy's 427 Camaros only came with the 396 or the the
429 over head cam went into the Mustang or Fairlane that ordinarily max.
at 427, 428, 429 push rod, and the 426 Hemi went into the little Super
Bee. If AMC didn't then no wonder they went down the tubes. They were
running a full out Javelin earlier.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Simple then.
>
> Just get your hands on a CJ factory maintenance manual.
>
> You will only find the 304 listed there.
>
> If the factory manual does not list the engine as something to repair or
> as an option, then it was not.
>
> This changes the onus over to him to get his build sheet.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's