Re: Advice needed - recurring rear axle oil seal leak
 

Bill -

Thanks for replying. Are you saying that the two issues need not be
related and unless I burn out the new bearing, there is no real problem
with it being slightly loose in the housing as it relates to the oil
seal's ability to do its job?

Thank


L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Dean,
> I wouldn't worry about a loose bearing race. And I don't like his
> idea of spot welding it in, it would be impossible to center it!
> I'm thinking the seal is his fault, like he laid the full weight of
> the axle on it as he slid it in. Or maybe the new seal was twenty years
> old and cracking.
> http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/superior02/
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Deano wrote:
> >
> > Just had my 86 cj7 (dana 44 rear) into my local jeep mechanic to
> > replace my oil seal, bearing, retainer etc, and brake pad on the rear
> > axle, driver's side. When I picked it up he mentioned that he had
> > noticed a lot of play when he reinstalled the new axle - he guessed
> > that a PO had spun a bearing. Basically the bearing was not fitting
> > tightly into the surrounding housing. He said it seemed ok, but if
> > there were any problems he may have to spot peen? (weld?) the bearing
> > to keep it from turning.
> >
> > As it turns out, it has started leaking again just a few weeks later
> > and I don't understand whether or not these two issues are or could be
> > related. He checked the axle for straightness at the time which wasn't
> > a problem. Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this? I will
> > take it back in, but wanted to have some ideas ahead of time...
> >
> > Dean

Re: Advice needed - recurring rear axle oil seal leak
 

Bill -

Thanks for replying. Are you saying that the two issues need not be
related and unless I burn out the new bearing, there is no real problem
with it being slightly loose in the housing as it relates to the oil
seal's ability to do its job?

Thank


L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> Hi Dean,
> I wouldn't worry about a loose bearing race. And I don't like his
> idea of spot welding it in, it would be impossible to center it!
> I'm thinking the seal is his fault, like he laid the full weight of
> the axle on it as he slid it in. Or maybe the new seal was twenty years
> old and cracking.
> http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/superior02/
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Deano wrote:
> >
> > Just had my 86 cj7 (dana 44 rear) into my local jeep mechanic to
> > replace my oil seal, bearing, retainer etc, and brake pad on the rear
> > axle, driver's side. When I picked it up he mentioned that he had
> > noticed a lot of play when he reinstalled the new axle - he guessed
> > that a PO had spun a bearing. Basically the bearing was not fitting
> > tightly into the surrounding housing. He said it seemed ok, but if
> > there were any problems he may have to spot peen? (weld?) the bearing
> > to keep it from turning.
> >
> > As it turns out, it has started leaking again just a few weeks later
> > and I don't understand whether or not these two issues are or could be
> > related. He checked the axle for straightness at the time which wasn't
> > a problem. Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this? I will
> > take it back in, but wanted to have some ideas ahead of time...
> >
> > Dean

Re: Advice needed - recurring rear axle oil seal leak
 

I am missing something there too.....

'Every' time a bearing has been spun out on me, the parts need
replacing. If I just put a new one in loose, I don't get 6 months out
of it.

If it is spun enough to cause seal failure, well......

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Deano wrote:
>
> Bill -
>
> Thanks for replying. Are you saying that the two issues need not be
> related and unless I burn out the new bearing, there is no real problem
> with it being slightly loose in the housing as it relates to the oil
> seal's ability to do its job?
>
> Thank
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > Hi Dean,
> > I wouldn't worry about a loose bearing race. And I don't like his
> > idea of spot welding it in, it would be impossible to center it!
> > I'm thinking the seal is his fault, like he laid the full weight of
> > the axle on it as he slid it in. Or maybe the new seal was twenty years
> > old and cracking.
> > http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/superior02/
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Deano wrote:
> > >
> > > Just had my 86 cj7 (dana 44 rear) into my local jeep mechanic to
> > > replace my oil seal, bearing, retainer etc, and brake pad on the rear
> > > axle, driver's side. When I picked it up he mentioned that he had
> > > noticed a lot of play when he reinstalled the new axle - he guessed
> > > that a PO had spun a bearing. Basically the bearing was not fitting
> > > tightly into the surrounding housing. He said it seemed ok, but if
> > > there were any problems he may have to spot peen? (weld?) the bearing
> > > to keep it from turning.
> > >
> > > As it turns out, it has started leaking again just a few weeks later
> > > and I don't understand whether or not these two issues are or could be
> > > related. He checked the axle for straightness at the time which wasn't
> > > a problem. Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this? I will
> > > take it back in, but wanted to have some ideas ahead of time...
> > >
> > > Dean

Re: Advice needed - recurring rear axle oil seal leak
 

I am missing something there too.....

'Every' time a bearing has been spun out on me, the parts need
replacing. If I just put a new one in loose, I don't get 6 months out
of it.

If it is spun enough to cause seal failure, well......

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Deano wrote:
>
> Bill -
>
> Thanks for replying. Are you saying that the two issues need not be
> related and unless I burn out the new bearing, there is no real problem
> with it being slightly loose in the housing as it relates to the oil
> seal's ability to do its job?
>
> Thank
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > Hi Dean,
> > I wouldn't worry about a loose bearing race. And I don't like his
> > idea of spot welding it in, it would be impossible to center it!
> > I'm thinking the seal is his fault, like he laid the full weight of
> > the axle on it as he slid it in. Or maybe the new seal was twenty years
> > old and cracking.
> > http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/superior02/
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Deano wrote:
> > >
> > > Just had my 86 cj7 (dana 44 rear) into my local jeep mechanic to
> > > replace my oil seal, bearing, retainer etc, and brake pad on the rear
> > > axle, driver's side. When I picked it up he mentioned that he had
> > > noticed a lot of play when he reinstalled the new axle - he guessed
> > > that a PO had spun a bearing. Basically the bearing was not fitting
> > > tightly into the surrounding housing. He said it seemed ok, but if
> > > there were any problems he may have to spot peen? (weld?) the bearing
> > > to keep it from turning.
> > >
> > > As it turns out, it has started leaking again just a few weeks later
> > > and I don't understand whether or not these two issues are or could be
> > > related. He checked the axle for straightness at the time which wasn't
> > > a problem. Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this? I will
> > > take it back in, but wanted to have some ideas ahead of time...
> > >
> > > Dean

Re: Advice needed - recurring rear axle oil seal leak
 

I am missing something there too.....

'Every' time a bearing has been spun out on me, the parts need
replacing. If I just put a new one in loose, I don't get 6 months out
of it.

If it is spun enough to cause seal failure, well......

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Deano wrote:
>
> Bill -
>
> Thanks for replying. Are you saying that the two issues need not be
> related and unless I burn out the new bearing, there is no real problem
> with it being slightly loose in the housing as it relates to the oil
> seal's ability to do its job?
>
> Thank
>
> L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > Hi Dean,
> > I wouldn't worry about a loose bearing race. And I don't like his
> > idea of spot welding it in, it would be impossible to center it!
> > I'm thinking the seal is his fault, like he laid the full weight of
> > the axle on it as he slid it in. Or maybe the new seal was twenty years
> > old and cracking.
> > http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/superior02/
> > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Deano wrote:
> > >
> > > Just had my 86 cj7 (dana 44 rear) into my local jeep mechanic to
> > > replace my oil seal, bearing, retainer etc, and brake pad on the rear
> > > axle, driver's side. When I picked it up he mentioned that he had
> > > noticed a lot of play when he reinstalled the new axle - he guessed
> > > that a PO had spun a bearing. Basically the bearing was not fitting
> > > tightly into the surrounding housing. He said it seemed ok, but if
> > > there were any problems he may have to spot peen? (weld?) the bearing
> > > to keep it from turning.
> > >
> > > As it turns out, it has started leaking again just a few weeks later
> > > and I don't understand whether or not these two issues are or could be
> > > related. He checked the axle for straightness at the time which wasn't
> > > a problem. Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this? I will
> > > take it back in, but wanted to have some ideas ahead of time...
> > >
> > > Dean

Re: Advice needed - recurring rear axle oil seal leak
 

You're not missing anything Mike.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4551EFB3.4DDEB4D1@sympatico.ca...
> I am missing something there too.....
>
> 'Every' time a bearing has been spun out on me, the parts need
> replacing. If I just put a new one in loose, I don't get 6 months out
> of it.
>
> If it is spun enough to cause seal failure, well......
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Deano wrote:
> >
> > Bill -
> >
> > Thanks for replying. Are you saying that the two issues need not be
> > related and unless I burn out the new bearing, there is no real problem
> > with it being slightly loose in the housing as it relates to the oil
> > seal's ability to do its job?
> >
> > Thank
> >
> > L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > > Hi Dean,
> > > I wouldn't worry about a loose bearing race. And I don't like his
> > > idea of spot welding it in, it would be impossible to center it!
> > > I'm thinking the seal is his fault, like he laid the full weight
of
> > > the axle on it as he slid it in. Or maybe the new seal was twenty
years
> > > old and cracking.
> > > http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/superior02/
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Deano wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just had my 86 cj7 (dana 44 rear) into my local jeep mechanic to
> > > > replace my oil seal, bearing, retainer etc, and brake pad on the
rear
> > > > axle, driver's side. When I picked it up he mentioned that he had
> > > > noticed a lot of play when he reinstalled the new axle - he guessed
> > > > that a PO had spun a bearing. Basically the bearing was not fitting
> > > > tightly into the surrounding housing. He said it seemed ok, but if
> > > > there were any problems he may have to spot peen? (weld?) the
bearing
> > > > to keep it from turning.
> > > >
> > > > As it turns out, it has started leaking again just a few weeks later
> > > > and I don't understand whether or not these two issues are or could
be
> > > > related. He checked the axle for straightness at the time which
wasn't
> > > > a problem. Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this? I
will
> > > > take it back in, but wanted to have some ideas ahead of time...
> > > >
> > > > Dean



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Re: Advice needed - recurring rear axle oil seal leak
 

You're not missing anything Mike.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4551EFB3.4DDEB4D1@sympatico.ca...
> I am missing something there too.....
>
> 'Every' time a bearing has been spun out on me, the parts need
> replacing. If I just put a new one in loose, I don't get 6 months out
> of it.
>
> If it is spun enough to cause seal failure, well......
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Deano wrote:
> >
> > Bill -
> >
> > Thanks for replying. Are you saying that the two issues need not be
> > related and unless I burn out the new bearing, there is no real problem
> > with it being slightly loose in the housing as it relates to the oil
> > seal's ability to do its job?
> >
> > Thank
> >
> > L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > > Hi Dean,
> > > I wouldn't worry about a loose bearing race. And I don't like his
> > > idea of spot welding it in, it would be impossible to center it!
> > > I'm thinking the seal is his fault, like he laid the full weight
of
> > > the axle on it as he slid it in. Or maybe the new seal was twenty
years
> > > old and cracking.
> > > http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/superior02/
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Deano wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just had my 86 cj7 (dana 44 rear) into my local jeep mechanic to
> > > > replace my oil seal, bearing, retainer etc, and brake pad on the
rear
> > > > axle, driver's side. When I picked it up he mentioned that he had
> > > > noticed a lot of play when he reinstalled the new axle - he guessed
> > > > that a PO had spun a bearing. Basically the bearing was not fitting
> > > > tightly into the surrounding housing. He said it seemed ok, but if
> > > > there were any problems he may have to spot peen? (weld?) the
bearing
> > > > to keep it from turning.
> > > >
> > > > As it turns out, it has started leaking again just a few weeks later
> > > > and I don't understand whether or not these two issues are or could
be
> > > > related. He checked the axle for straightness at the time which
wasn't
> > > > a problem. Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this? I
will
> > > > take it back in, but wanted to have some ideas ahead of time...
> > > >
> > > > Dean



--
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Re: Advice needed - recurring rear axle oil seal leak
 

You're not missing anything Mike.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4551EFB3.4DDEB4D1@sympatico.ca...
> I am missing something there too.....
>
> 'Every' time a bearing has been spun out on me, the parts need
> replacing. If I just put a new one in loose, I don't get 6 months out
> of it.
>
> If it is spun enough to cause seal failure, well......
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Deano wrote:
> >
> > Bill -
> >
> > Thanks for replying. Are you saying that the two issues need not be
> > related and unless I burn out the new bearing, there is no real problem
> > with it being slightly loose in the housing as it relates to the oil
> > seal's ability to do its job?
> >
> > Thank
> >
> > L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > > Hi Dean,
> > > I wouldn't worry about a loose bearing race. And I don't like his
> > > idea of spot welding it in, it would be impossible to center it!
> > > I'm thinking the seal is his fault, like he laid the full weight
of
> > > the axle on it as he slid it in. Or maybe the new seal was twenty
years
> > > old and cracking.
> > > http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/superior02/
> > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >
> > > Deano wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just had my 86 cj7 (dana 44 rear) into my local jeep mechanic to
> > > > replace my oil seal, bearing, retainer etc, and brake pad on the
rear
> > > > axle, driver's side. When I picked it up he mentioned that he had
> > > > noticed a lot of play when he reinstalled the new axle - he guessed
> > > > that a PO had spun a bearing. Basically the bearing was not fitting
> > > > tightly into the surrounding housing. He said it seemed ok, but if
> > > > there were any problems he may have to spot peen? (weld?) the
bearing
> > > > to keep it from turning.
> > > >
> > > > As it turns out, it has started leaking again just a few weeks later
> > > > and I don't understand whether or not these two issues are or could
be
> > > > related. He checked the axle for straightness at the time which
wasn't
> > > > a problem. Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this? I
will
> > > > take it back in, but wanted to have some ideas ahead of time...
> > > >
> > > > Dean



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Re: Advice needed - recurring rear axle oil seal leak
 

Not to beat a dead horse here guys, but would a loose bearing race
actually cause a brand new seal to fail within a couple of weeks? Or am
I likely dealing with two problems:

1) dealing with the spun bearing

2) a poorly done seal/bearing job


Earle Horton wrote:
> You're not missing anything Mike.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4551EFB3.4DDEB4D1@sympatico.ca...
> > I am missing something there too.....
> >
> > 'Every' time a bearing has been spun out on me, the parts need
> > replacing. If I just put a new one in loose, I don't get 6 months out
> > of it.
> >
> > If it is spun enough to cause seal failure, well......
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Deano wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill -
> > >
> > > Thanks for replying. Are you saying that the two issues need not be
> > > related and unless I burn out the new bearing, there is no real problem
> > > with it being slightly loose in the housing as it relates to the oil
> > > seal's ability to do its job?
> > >
> > > Thank
> > >
> > > L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > > > Hi Dean,
> > > > I wouldn't worry about a loose bearing race. And I don't like his
> > > > idea of spot welding it in, it would be impossible to center it!
> > > > I'm thinking the seal is his fault, like he laid the full weight
> of
> > > > the axle on it as he slid it in. Or maybe the new seal was twenty
> years
> > > > old and cracking.
> > > > http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/superior02/
> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Deano wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just had my 86 cj7 (dana 44 rear) into my local jeep mechanic to
> > > > > replace my oil seal, bearing, retainer etc, and brake pad on the
> rear
> > > > > axle, driver's side. When I picked it up he mentioned that he had
> > > > > noticed a lot of play when he reinstalled the new axle - he guessed
> > > > > that a PO had spun a bearing. Basically the bearing was not fitting
> > > > > tightly into the surrounding housing. He said it seemed ok, but if
> > > > > there were any problems he may have to spot peen? (weld?) the
> bearing
> > > > > to keep it from turning.
> > > > >
> > > > > As it turns out, it has started leaking again just a few weeks later
> > > > > and I don't understand whether or not these two issues are or could
> be
> > > > > related. He checked the axle for straightness at the time which
> wasn't
> > > > > a problem. Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this? I
> will
> > > > > take it back in, but wanted to have some ideas ahead of time...
> > > > >
> > > > > Dean
>
>
>
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Re: Advice needed - recurring rear axle oil seal leak
 

Not to beat a dead horse here guys, but would a loose bearing race
actually cause a brand new seal to fail within a couple of weeks? Or am
I likely dealing with two problems:

1) dealing with the spun bearing

2) a poorly done seal/bearing job


Earle Horton wrote:
> You're not missing anything Mike.
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:4551EFB3.4DDEB4D1@sympatico.ca...
> > I am missing something there too.....
> >
> > 'Every' time a bearing has been spun out on me, the parts need
> > replacing. If I just put a new one in loose, I don't get 6 months out
> > of it.
> >
> > If it is spun enough to cause seal failure, well......
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Deano wrote:
> > >
> > > Bill -
> > >
> > > Thanks for replying. Are you saying that the two issues need not be
> > > related and unless I burn out the new bearing, there is no real problem
> > > with it being slightly loose in the housing as it relates to the oil
> > > seal's ability to do its job?
> > >
> > > Thank
> > >
> > > L.W.(Bill) ------ III wrote:
> > > > Hi Dean,
> > > > I wouldn't worry about a loose bearing race. And I don't like his
> > > > idea of spot welding it in, it would be impossible to center it!
> > > > I'm thinking the seal is his fault, like he laid the full weight
> of
> > > > the axle on it as he slid it in. Or maybe the new seal was twenty
> years
> > > > old and cracking.
> > > > http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/axle/superior02/
> > > > God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > > >
> > > > Deano wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just had my 86 cj7 (dana 44 rear) into my local jeep mechanic to
> > > > > replace my oil seal, bearing, retainer etc, and brake pad on the
> rear
> > > > > axle, driver's side. When I picked it up he mentioned that he had
> > > > > noticed a lot of play when he reinstalled the new axle - he guessed
> > > > > that a PO had spun a bearing. Basically the bearing was not fitting
> > > > > tightly into the surrounding housing. He said it seemed ok, but if
> > > > > there were any problems he may have to spot peen? (weld?) the
> bearing
> > > > > to keep it from turning.
> > > > >
> > > > > As it turns out, it has started leaking again just a few weeks later
> > > > > and I don't understand whether or not these two issues are or could
> be
> > > > > related. He checked the axle for straightness at the time which
> wasn't
> > > > > a problem. Anyone have any thoughts or experience with this? I
> will
> > > > > take it back in, but wanted to have some ideas ahead of time...
> > > > >
> > > > > Dean
>
>
>
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