98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
#191
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Lets just note that Bill is smarter than you and leave it at that.
He might have failed to note the sarcasm in the original comment, but at
least he knew about cold fusion.
c proclaimed:
>
>>coldfusion is a figment of the collective
>>scientific imagination
>
>
> Just as were meteorites.
>
> Just as was electricity.
>
> Just as was heavier-than-air flight.
>
> Just as was land travel past 50 mph.
>
> Just as was 'solar power'.
>
> Just as was nuclear power.
>
> I see you know as much about physics, the Universe and what exists
> out there (whether you approve or not), and general science as you know
> about nearly everything else.
>
> Zilch.
>
>
> And it's 2 separate words: cold fusion.
>
>
>
>
He might have failed to note the sarcasm in the original comment, but at
least he knew about cold fusion.
c proclaimed:
>
>>coldfusion is a figment of the collective
>>scientific imagination
>
>
> Just as were meteorites.
>
> Just as was electricity.
>
> Just as was heavier-than-air flight.
>
> Just as was land travel past 50 mph.
>
> Just as was 'solar power'.
>
> Just as was nuclear power.
>
> I see you know as much about physics, the Universe and what exists
> out there (whether you approve or not), and general science as you know
> about nearly everything else.
>
> Zilch.
>
>
> And it's 2 separate words: cold fusion.
>
>
>
>
#192
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Lets just note that Bill is smarter than you and leave it at that.
He might have failed to note the sarcasm in the original comment, but at
least he knew about cold fusion.
c proclaimed:
>
>>coldfusion is a figment of the collective
>>scientific imagination
>
>
> Just as were meteorites.
>
> Just as was electricity.
>
> Just as was heavier-than-air flight.
>
> Just as was land travel past 50 mph.
>
> Just as was 'solar power'.
>
> Just as was nuclear power.
>
> I see you know as much about physics, the Universe and what exists
> out there (whether you approve or not), and general science as you know
> about nearly everything else.
>
> Zilch.
>
>
> And it's 2 separate words: cold fusion.
>
>
>
>
He might have failed to note the sarcasm in the original comment, but at
least he knew about cold fusion.
c proclaimed:
>
>>coldfusion is a figment of the collective
>>scientific imagination
>
>
> Just as were meteorites.
>
> Just as was electricity.
>
> Just as was heavier-than-air flight.
>
> Just as was land travel past 50 mph.
>
> Just as was 'solar power'.
>
> Just as was nuclear power.
>
> I see you know as much about physics, the Universe and what exists
> out there (whether you approve or not), and general science as you know
> about nearly everything else.
>
> Zilch.
>
>
> And it's 2 separate words: cold fusion.
>
>
>
>
#193
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Lets just note that Bill is smarter than you and leave it at that.
He might have failed to note the sarcasm in the original comment, but at
least he knew about cold fusion.
c proclaimed:
>
>>coldfusion is a figment of the collective
>>scientific imagination
>
>
> Just as were meteorites.
>
> Just as was electricity.
>
> Just as was heavier-than-air flight.
>
> Just as was land travel past 50 mph.
>
> Just as was 'solar power'.
>
> Just as was nuclear power.
>
> I see you know as much about physics, the Universe and what exists
> out there (whether you approve or not), and general science as you know
> about nearly everything else.
>
> Zilch.
>
>
> And it's 2 separate words: cold fusion.
>
>
>
>
He might have failed to note the sarcasm in the original comment, but at
least he knew about cold fusion.
c proclaimed:
>
>>coldfusion is a figment of the collective
>>scientific imagination
>
>
> Just as were meteorites.
>
> Just as was electricity.
>
> Just as was heavier-than-air flight.
>
> Just as was land travel past 50 mph.
>
> Just as was 'solar power'.
>
> Just as was nuclear power.
>
> I see you know as much about physics, the Universe and what exists
> out there (whether you approve or not), and general science as you know
> about nearly everything else.
>
> Zilch.
>
>
> And it's 2 separate words: cold fusion.
>
>
>
>
#194
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
This was the old twin tank Jags that had the valve just to the rear of
the right hand side of the drivers seat [left hand drive models].
You normally ran the thing on one tank, and that valve was how you
selected the other tank. Looked exactly like a chrome plated water
faucet wheel type valve.
Didn't take much to mod the vehicle so turning the valve mixed the two
tanks, one normally used for fuel, the other for the shine.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Hi Lon,
> Not before my time, I had dozens of Jaguars with twin tanks come through
> with their chrome quick release caps, the same as my Norton 750 Commando (a
> foolish move form a Hog).
> I didn't understand your statement though, burn what evidence?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:SJadnbbaq_PcTt7bnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>And possibly before your time, the shiners like the old Jag coupes with
>>the twin fuel tanks and the factory standard valve just behind the
>>drivers right side.
>>Very difficult for the typical american cop car to follow thru the
>>mountains and if they got near, just open the valve and burn the evidence.
>>
>>
>>L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
>
>
>
the right hand side of the drivers seat [left hand drive models].
You normally ran the thing on one tank, and that valve was how you
selected the other tank. Looked exactly like a chrome plated water
faucet wheel type valve.
Didn't take much to mod the vehicle so turning the valve mixed the two
tanks, one normally used for fuel, the other for the shine.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Hi Lon,
> Not before my time, I had dozens of Jaguars with twin tanks come through
> with their chrome quick release caps, the same as my Norton 750 Commando (a
> foolish move form a Hog).
> I didn't understand your statement though, burn what evidence?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:SJadnbbaq_PcTt7bnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>And possibly before your time, the shiners like the old Jag coupes with
>>the twin fuel tanks and the factory standard valve just behind the
>>drivers right side.
>>Very difficult for the typical american cop car to follow thru the
>>mountains and if they got near, just open the valve and burn the evidence.
>>
>>
>>L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
>
>
>
#195
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
This was the old twin tank Jags that had the valve just to the rear of
the right hand side of the drivers seat [left hand drive models].
You normally ran the thing on one tank, and that valve was how you
selected the other tank. Looked exactly like a chrome plated water
faucet wheel type valve.
Didn't take much to mod the vehicle so turning the valve mixed the two
tanks, one normally used for fuel, the other for the shine.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Hi Lon,
> Not before my time, I had dozens of Jaguars with twin tanks come through
> with their chrome quick release caps, the same as my Norton 750 Commando (a
> foolish move form a Hog).
> I didn't understand your statement though, burn what evidence?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:SJadnbbaq_PcTt7bnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>And possibly before your time, the shiners like the old Jag coupes with
>>the twin fuel tanks and the factory standard valve just behind the
>>drivers right side.
>>Very difficult for the typical american cop car to follow thru the
>>mountains and if they got near, just open the valve and burn the evidence.
>>
>>
>>L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
>
>
>
the right hand side of the drivers seat [left hand drive models].
You normally ran the thing on one tank, and that valve was how you
selected the other tank. Looked exactly like a chrome plated water
faucet wheel type valve.
Didn't take much to mod the vehicle so turning the valve mixed the two
tanks, one normally used for fuel, the other for the shine.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Hi Lon,
> Not before my time, I had dozens of Jaguars with twin tanks come through
> with their chrome quick release caps, the same as my Norton 750 Commando (a
> foolish move form a Hog).
> I didn't understand your statement though, burn what evidence?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:SJadnbbaq_PcTt7bnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>And possibly before your time, the shiners like the old Jag coupes with
>>the twin fuel tanks and the factory standard valve just behind the
>>drivers right side.
>>Very difficult for the typical american cop car to follow thru the
>>mountains and if they got near, just open the valve and burn the evidence.
>>
>>
>>L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
>
>
>
#196
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
This was the old twin tank Jags that had the valve just to the rear of
the right hand side of the drivers seat [left hand drive models].
You normally ran the thing on one tank, and that valve was how you
selected the other tank. Looked exactly like a chrome plated water
faucet wheel type valve.
Didn't take much to mod the vehicle so turning the valve mixed the two
tanks, one normally used for fuel, the other for the shine.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Hi Lon,
> Not before my time, I had dozens of Jaguars with twin tanks come through
> with their chrome quick release caps, the same as my Norton 750 Commando (a
> foolish move form a Hog).
> I didn't understand your statement though, burn what evidence?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:SJadnbbaq_PcTt7bnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>And possibly before your time, the shiners like the old Jag coupes with
>>the twin fuel tanks and the factory standard valve just behind the
>>drivers right side.
>>Very difficult for the typical american cop car to follow thru the
>>mountains and if they got near, just open the valve and burn the evidence.
>>
>>
>>L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
>
>
>
the right hand side of the drivers seat [left hand drive models].
You normally ran the thing on one tank, and that valve was how you
selected the other tank. Looked exactly like a chrome plated water
faucet wheel type valve.
Didn't take much to mod the vehicle so turning the valve mixed the two
tanks, one normally used for fuel, the other for the shine.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Hi Lon,
> Not before my time, I had dozens of Jaguars with twin tanks come through
> with their chrome quick release caps, the same as my Norton 750 Commando (a
> foolish move form a Hog).
> I didn't understand your statement though, burn what evidence?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:SJadnbbaq_PcTt7bnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>And possibly before your time, the shiners like the old Jag coupes with
>>the twin fuel tanks and the factory standard valve just behind the
>>drivers right side.
>>Very difficult for the typical american cop car to follow thru the
>>mountains and if they got near, just open the valve and burn the evidence.
>>
>>
>>L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
>
>
>
#197
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
This was the old twin tank Jags that had the valve just to the rear of
the right hand side of the drivers seat [left hand drive models].
You normally ran the thing on one tank, and that valve was how you
selected the other tank. Looked exactly like a chrome plated water
faucet wheel type valve.
Didn't take much to mod the vehicle so turning the valve mixed the two
tanks, one normally used for fuel, the other for the shine.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Hi Lon,
> Not before my time, I had dozens of Jaguars with twin tanks come through
> with their chrome quick release caps, the same as my Norton 750 Commando (a
> foolish move form a Hog).
> I didn't understand your statement though, burn what evidence?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:SJadnbbaq_PcTt7bnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>And possibly before your time, the shiners like the old Jag coupes with
>>the twin fuel tanks and the factory standard valve just behind the
>>drivers right side.
>>Very difficult for the typical american cop car to follow thru the
>>mountains and if they got near, just open the valve and burn the evidence.
>>
>>
>>L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
>
>
>
the right hand side of the drivers seat [left hand drive models].
You normally ran the thing on one tank, and that valve was how you
selected the other tank. Looked exactly like a chrome plated water
faucet wheel type valve.
Didn't take much to mod the vehicle so turning the valve mixed the two
tanks, one normally used for fuel, the other for the shine.
L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
> Hi Lon,
> Not before my time, I had dozens of Jaguars with twin tanks come through
> with their chrome quick release caps, the same as my Norton 750 Commando (a
> foolish move form a Hog).
> I didn't understand your statement though, burn what evidence?
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "Lon" <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:SJadnbbaq_PcTt7bnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>
>>And possibly before your time, the shiners like the old Jag coupes with
>>the twin fuel tanks and the factory standard valve just behind the
>>drivers right side.
>>Very difficult for the typical american cop car to follow thru the
>>mountains and if they got near, just open the valve and burn the evidence.
>>
>>
>>L.W. (Bill) ------ III proclaimed:
>
>
>
>
#198
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Ivan Jager proclaimed:
> On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>>power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>>the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>>
>>>
>>>The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>>>ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>>>octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>>>to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>>
>>>I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>>
>>Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
>>would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
>>Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
>
>
> Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
> then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
> Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
Possibly as a moderator? The old model airplane fuel was alcohol with
just a bit of castor oil in it for lube. A glow plug started the
engine, just like an old mercedes.
> On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>>power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>>the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>>
>>>
>>>The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>>>ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>>>octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>>>to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>>
>>>I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>>
>>Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
>>would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
>>Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
>
>
> Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
> then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
> Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
Possibly as a moderator? The old model airplane fuel was alcohol with
just a bit of castor oil in it for lube. A glow plug started the
engine, just like an old mercedes.
#199
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Ivan Jager proclaimed:
> On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>>power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>>the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>>
>>>
>>>The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>>>ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>>>octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>>>to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>>
>>>I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>>
>>Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
>>would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
>>Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
>
>
> Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
> then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
> Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
Possibly as a moderator? The old model airplane fuel was alcohol with
just a bit of castor oil in it for lube. A glow plug started the
engine, just like an old mercedes.
> On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>>power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>>the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>>
>>>
>>>The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>>>ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>>>octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>>>to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>>
>>>I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>>
>>Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
>>would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
>>Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
>
>
> Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
> then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
> Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
Possibly as a moderator? The old model airplane fuel was alcohol with
just a bit of castor oil in it for lube. A glow plug started the
engine, just like an old mercedes.
#200
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Posts: n/a
Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Ivan Jager proclaimed:
> On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>>power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>>the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>>
>>>
>>>The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>>>ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>>>octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>>>to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>>
>>>I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>>
>>Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
>>would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
>>Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
>
>
> Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
> then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
> Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
Possibly as a moderator? The old model airplane fuel was alcohol with
just a bit of castor oil in it for lube. A glow plug started the
engine, just like an old mercedes.
> On 2007-05-11, Lon <lon.stowell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>Ivan Jager proclaimed:
>>
>>
>>>On 2007-05-08, c <c@me.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>To me this would have more potential to reduce emissions and increase
>>>>power since ethanol has a high octane rating and could take advantage of
>>>>the compression ratio of a diesel engine.
>>>
>>>
>>>The whole point of a Diesel engine is that you can get high compression
>>>ratios without needing high octane fuel. In fact, if you had high
>>>octane fuel that wouldn't self ignite, it wouldn't burn. Are you going
>>>to suggest putting spark plugs in a Diesel engine? :D
>>>
>>>I would hazard a guess that the 2% Diesel is so that the fuel will burn.
>>
>>Alcohol burns nicely in a diesel cycle, as any model airplane hobbyist
>>would be aware of as they do the inevitable castor oil two step.
>>Alcohol and nitromethane burn even better just before your engine melts.
>
>
> Ok, I wasn't sure about that. Any idea why they still mix in Diesel
> then? Actually, everything I seem to find on the internet uses mostly
> Diesel, rather than the 98% alcohol mentioned earlier in the thread.
Possibly as a moderator? The old model airplane fuel was alcohol with
just a bit of castor oil in it for lube. A glow plug started the
engine, just like an old mercedes.