98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
#101
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
On 2007-05-09, SnoMan <admin@snoman.com> wrote:
> Hyddrogen and Ammonia which is used in fertilizer production. They
> have been searching for years to fund a cheap way to split Hydrogen
> and Oxygem atoms apart in water for unlimited fuel source but right
> now it take more energy to make it han is recoverd when using water.
And it always will. Are you familiar with the second law of
thermodynamics?
IMHO, our best hope is to be able to separate them using a cheaper
source of energy, such as sunlight, because then it doesn't matter
whether we can recover all the energy that went into it.
Ivan
> Hyddrogen and Ammonia which is used in fertilizer production. They
> have been searching for years to fund a cheap way to split Hydrogen
> and Oxygem atoms apart in water for unlimited fuel source but right
> now it take more energy to make it han is recoverd when using water.
And it always will. Are you familiar with the second law of
thermodynamics?
IMHO, our best hope is to be able to separate them using a cheaper
source of energy, such as sunlight, because then it doesn't matter
whether we can recover all the energy that went into it.
Ivan
#102
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Yup, and anyone can separate it from water, remember the two electrical
probes we put in a glass, trapped the Hydrogen, and exploded a piece of
magnesium in it. The justification for burning hydrogen is cleaner burning,
but what no one mentions is it takes ceramic pistons and sleeves to
withstand the much higher than the two thousand degree flash of gasoline,
now.
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"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
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> Funny that, from what I understand:
> Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe
> :-)
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probes we put in a glass, trapped the Hydrogen, and exploded a piece of
magnesium in it. The justification for burning hydrogen is cleaner burning,
but what no one mentions is it takes ceramic pistons and sleeves to
withstand the much higher than the two thousand degree flash of gasoline,
now.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
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> Funny that, from what I understand:
> Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe
> :-)
--
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#103
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Yup, and anyone can separate it from water, remember the two electrical
probes we put in a glass, trapped the Hydrogen, and exploded a piece of
magnesium in it. The justification for burning hydrogen is cleaner burning,
but what no one mentions is it takes ceramic pistons and sleeves to
withstand the much higher than the two thousand degree flash of gasoline,
now.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:7M6dnZZTVKPqmd_bnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@magma.ca...
> Funny that, from what I understand:
> Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe
> :-)
--
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probes we put in a glass, trapped the Hydrogen, and exploded a piece of
magnesium in it. The justification for burning hydrogen is cleaner burning,
but what no one mentions is it takes ceramic pistons and sleeves to
withstand the much higher than the two thousand degree flash of gasoline,
now.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:7M6dnZZTVKPqmd_bnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@magma.ca...
> Funny that, from what I understand:
> Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe
> :-)
--
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#104
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Yup, and anyone can separate it from water, remember the two electrical
probes we put in a glass, trapped the Hydrogen, and exploded a piece of
magnesium in it. The justification for burning hydrogen is cleaner burning,
but what no one mentions is it takes ceramic pistons and sleeves to
withstand the much higher than the two thousand degree flash of gasoline,
now.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:7M6dnZZTVKPqmd_bnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@magma.ca...
> Funny that, from what I understand:
> Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe
> :-)
--
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probes we put in a glass, trapped the Hydrogen, and exploded a piece of
magnesium in it. The justification for burning hydrogen is cleaner burning,
but what no one mentions is it takes ceramic pistons and sleeves to
withstand the much higher than the two thousand degree flash of gasoline,
now.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:7M6dnZZTVKPqmd_bnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@magma.ca...
> Funny that, from what I understand:
> Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe
> :-)
--
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#105
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Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
Yup, and anyone can separate it from water, remember the two electrical
probes we put in a glass, trapped the Hydrogen, and exploded a piece of
magnesium in it. The justification for burning hydrogen is cleaner burning,
but what no one mentions is it takes ceramic pistons and sleeves to
withstand the much higher than the two thousand degree flash of gasoline,
now.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:7M6dnZZTVKPqmd_bnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@magma.ca...
> Funny that, from what I understand:
> Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe
> :-)
--
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probes we put in a glass, trapped the Hydrogen, and exploded a piece of
magnesium in it. The justification for burning hydrogen is cleaner burning,
but what no one mentions is it takes ceramic pistons and sleeves to
withstand the much higher than the two thousand degree flash of gasoline,
now.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"FrankW" <fworm@norpak.ca> wrote in message
news:7M6dnZZTVKPqmd_bnZ2dnUVZ_tjinZ2d@magma.ca...
> Funny that, from what I understand:
> Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe
> :-)
--
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Re: Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
CH4: cow flatulence:
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"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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>
> Most Hydrogen is made from Methane gas etheir naturally occuring or
> from cracking crude. When you make Hydrogen from Methane you get
> Hyddrogen and Ammonia which is used in fertilizer production. They
> have been searching for years to fund a cheap way to split Hydrogen
> and Oxygem atoms apart in water for unlimited fuel source but right
> now it take more energy to make it han is recoverd when using water.
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"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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>
> Most Hydrogen is made from Methane gas etheir naturally occuring or
> from cracking crude. When you make Hydrogen from Methane you get
> Hyddrogen and Ammonia which is used in fertilizer production. They
> have been searching for years to fund a cheap way to split Hydrogen
> and Oxygem atoms apart in water for unlimited fuel source but right
> now it take more energy to make it han is recoverd when using water.
--
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Re: Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
CH4: cow flatulence:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6...p_image002.gif
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"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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>
> Most Hydrogen is made from Methane gas etheir naturally occuring or
> from cracking crude. When you make Hydrogen from Methane you get
> Hyddrogen and Ammonia which is used in fertilizer production. They
> have been searching for years to fund a cheap way to split Hydrogen
> and Oxygem atoms apart in water for unlimited fuel source but right
> now it take more energy to make it han is recoverd when using water.
--
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"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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>
> Most Hydrogen is made from Methane gas etheir naturally occuring or
> from cracking crude. When you make Hydrogen from Methane you get
> Hyddrogen and Ammonia which is used in fertilizer production. They
> have been searching for years to fund a cheap way to split Hydrogen
> and Oxygem atoms apart in water for unlimited fuel source but right
> now it take more energy to make it han is recoverd when using water.
--
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#108
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Re: Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
CH4: cow flatulence:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6...p_image002.gif
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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>
> Most Hydrogen is made from Methane gas etheir naturally occuring or
> from cracking crude. When you make Hydrogen from Methane you get
> Hyddrogen and Ammonia which is used in fertilizer production. They
> have been searching for years to fund a cheap way to split Hydrogen
> and Oxygem atoms apart in water for unlimited fuel source but right
> now it take more energy to make it han is recoverd when using water.
--
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"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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>
> Most Hydrogen is made from Methane gas etheir naturally occuring or
> from cracking crude. When you make Hydrogen from Methane you get
> Hyddrogen and Ammonia which is used in fertilizer production. They
> have been searching for years to fund a cheap way to split Hydrogen
> and Oxygem atoms apart in water for unlimited fuel source but right
> now it take more energy to make it han is recoverd when using water.
--
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#109
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Re: Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
CH4: cow flatulence:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6...p_image002.gif
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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>
> Most Hydrogen is made from Methane gas etheir naturally occuring or
> from cracking crude. When you make Hydrogen from Methane you get
> Hyddrogen and Ammonia which is used in fertilizer production. They
> have been searching for years to fund a cheap way to split Hydrogen
> and Oxygem atoms apart in water for unlimited fuel source but right
> now it take more energy to make it han is recoverd when using water.
--
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"SnoMan" <admin@snoman.com> wrote in message
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>
> Most Hydrogen is made from Methane gas etheir naturally occuring or
> from cracking crude. When you make Hydrogen from Methane you get
> Hyddrogen and Ammonia which is used in fertilizer production. They
> have been searching for years to fund a cheap way to split Hydrogen
> and Oxygem atoms apart in water for unlimited fuel source but right
> now it take more energy to make it han is recoverd when using water.
--
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Re: Re: 98 Jeep Wrangler and E85 fuel
On Wed, 09 May 2007 16:25:25 -0700, L.W. (Bill) ------ III wrote:
> cow flatulence:
No, it's Cooyon flatulence, far more dangerous.
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-- Nancy ------ III
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> cow flatulence:
No, it's Cooyon flatulence, far more dangerous.
--
"Jeeps can get up, and jeeps can also go down. Why can't Bill do either?"
-- Nancy ------ III
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