Why insert them at all?
Did they all suffer from retention?
Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?


"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and a
> mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that "emergency
> room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> He
> has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> next
> mistake.
>
> Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> order?
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
>> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
>> and
>> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> that
>> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> mechanics.
>>
>> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
>> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses (BSN-RNs).
>> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind their
>> name improves their competence.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
>> >
>> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
>> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
>> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
>> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> bac!!!!
>> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
>> >>
>> >> billy ray wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
>> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
>> >> >
>> >> > What is the difference you ask?
>> >> >
>> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
>> > complete
>> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you
>> >> > a
>> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
>> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
>> > patio
>> >> > set to an ocean liner...
>> >> >
>> >> > That's the difference..
>> >> >
>> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> Service
>> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of
> the
>> > rear
>> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
>> > hose
>> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> then
>> >> > > while
>> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> the
>> >> > > system
>> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> interesting
>> > too.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> O-rings
>> > and
>> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> the
>> > rest
>> >> > > are getting ready.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Earle
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
>> >> > > mechanic"
>> >> > >> for a leak test
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about
>> >> > >> >four
>> >> > > years
>> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
>> > fixed
>> >> > >> >it
>> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> worked
>> > fine
>> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought
> a
>> >> > > recharge
>> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> stopped
>> >> > > cooling
>> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> about
>> > a
>> >> > > week
>> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> plan
>> > on
>> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Best Regards,
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Marcel
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

Why insert them at all?
Did they all suffer from retention?
Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?


"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and a
> mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that "emergency
> room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> He
> has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> next
> mistake.
>
> Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> order?
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
>> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
>> and
>> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> that
>> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> mechanics.
>>
>> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
>> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses (BSN-RNs).
>> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind their
>> name improves their competence.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
>> >
>> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
>> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
>> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
>> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> bac!!!!
>> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
>> >>
>> >> billy ray wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
>> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
>> >> >
>> >> > What is the difference you ask?
>> >> >
>> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
>> > complete
>> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you
>> >> > a
>> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
>> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
>> > patio
>> >> > set to an ocean liner...
>> >> >
>> >> > That's the difference..
>> >> >
>> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> Service
>> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of
> the
>> > rear
>> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
>> > hose
>> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> then
>> >> > > while
>> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> the
>> >> > > system
>> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> interesting
>> > too.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> O-rings
>> > and
>> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> the
>> > rest
>> >> > > are getting ready.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Earle
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
>> >> > > mechanic"
>> >> > >> for a leak test
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about
>> >> > >> >four
>> >> > > years
>> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
>> > fixed
>> >> > >> >it
>> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> worked
>> > fine
>> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought
> a
>> >> > > recharge
>> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> stopped
>> >> > > cooling
>> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> about
>> > a
>> >> > > week
>> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> plan
>> > on
>> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Best Regards,
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Marcel
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

Why insert them at all?
Did they all suffer from retention?
Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?


"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and a
> mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that "emergency
> room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> He
> has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> next
> mistake.
>
> Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> order?
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
>> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
>> and
>> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> that
>> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> mechanics.
>>
>> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
>> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses (BSN-RNs).
>> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind their
>> name improves their competence.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
>> >
>> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
>> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
>> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
>> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> bac!!!!
>> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
>> >>
>> >> billy ray wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
>> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
>> >> >
>> >> > What is the difference you ask?
>> >> >
>> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
>> > complete
>> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you
>> >> > a
>> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
>> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
>> > patio
>> >> > set to an ocean liner...
>> >> >
>> >> > That's the difference..
>> >> >
>> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> Service
>> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of
> the
>> > rear
>> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
>> > hose
>> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> then
>> >> > > while
>> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> the
>> >> > > system
>> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> interesting
>> > too.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> O-rings
>> > and
>> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> the
>> > rest
>> >> > > are getting ready.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Earle
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
>> >> > > mechanic"
>> >> > >> for a leak test
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about
>> >> > >> >four
>> >> > > years
>> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
>> > fixed
>> >> > >> >it
>> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> worked
>> > fine
>> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought
> a
>> >> > > recharge
>> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> stopped
>> >> > > cooling
>> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> about
>> > a
>> >> > > week
>> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> plan
>> > on
>> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Best Regards,
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Marcel
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

 

Congratulations!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Are they anything like registered nurses?
>
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
>
> Earle

 

Congratulations!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Are they anything like registered nurses?
>
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
>
> Earle

 

Congratulations!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Are they anything like registered nurses?
>
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
>
> Earle

 

Congratulations!
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Are they anything like registered nurses?
>
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
>
> Earle

 

The battery test. I'd just as soon they didn't totally drain my
battery pulling thirty seconds worth of starter amps out of my battery
just to see if it recoveres, a little. Great way to sell batteries,
though.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

philthy wrote:
>
> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the bac!!!!
> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test

 

The battery test. I'd just as soon they didn't totally drain my
battery pulling thirty seconds worth of starter amps out of my battery
just to see if it recoveres, a little. Great way to sell batteries,
though.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

philthy wrote:
>
> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the bac!!!!
> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test

 

The battery test. I'd just as soon they didn't totally drain my
battery pulling thirty seconds worth of starter amps out of my battery
just to see if it recoveres, a little. Great way to sell batteries,
though.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

philthy wrote:
>
> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the bac!!!!
> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test