Earle Horton

A change like that might make your typical new vehicle go several years
without needing AC service, and would keep the tree-huggers happy too.
Fewer leaks, means less refrigerant released into the atmosphere. The new
stuff, R134a, is supposed to be less harmful to the ozone layer, but it
can't be "good" for it.

As an individual consumer you can't do much, but you *can* be aggressive
(i.e. not stingy) when things have to be repaired. This should make the
system last longer until the next repair stop.

Earle

"L.W. (Bill) ------" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:nj5Tf.1111$5F1.944@fed1read08...
> Hi Earle,
> It's too bad some car don't advertise their assemble lines take the
time
> to use flared nuts to bolt everything together to see if their sales don't
> go up enough to make it cost effective. As anyone knows the AC's retaining
> springs alone give up under dusty conditions in no time at all.
> God Bless America, L.W(Bill) ------ III 0|||||||0
>
> Mailto:LW------3rd http://----------.com/
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441cdc75$0$21248$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Part of the problem is that you can't work on AC for money without a
fancy
> > charging station and an even fancier EPA permit. This prevents the two
> > mechanics in town from doing any AC work. I don't have a commercial
> > business, but the two installations I did for myself more than paid for
> the
> > vacuum pump and set of gauges I bought. Don't ask me what happened to
the
> > waste refrigerant. It must have all leaked out.
> >
> > O-rings are 90% of the problem. It is false economy to save a few
dollars
> > on each system, while giving your customers years and years of repair
bill
> > headache.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:4cc93$441cb94a$4831b233$26769@FUSE.NET...
> > > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> > > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > >
> > > What is the difference you ask?
> > >
> > > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> complete
> > > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> > > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > >
> > > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> > > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> patio
> > > set to an ocean liner...
> > >
> > > That's the difference..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
Service
> > > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of
the
> > rear
> > > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> hose
> > > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
then
> > > > while
> > > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > > > system
> > > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
interesting
> > too.
> > > >
> > > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
O-rings
> > and
> > > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
> > rest
> > > > are getting ready.
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > > > mechanic"
> > > >> for a leak test
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about
four
> > > > years
> > > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> fixed
> > > >> >it
> > > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
worked
> > fine
> > > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > > > recharge
> > > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > > > cooling
> > > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
about
> a
> > > > week
> > > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
plan
> on
> > > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Marcel
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

billy ray

A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified and
in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However..... that
does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real' mechanics.

In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses (BSN-RNs).
I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind their
name improves their competence.....




"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Are they anything like registered nurses?
>
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
>
> Earle
>
> "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
>> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the bac!!!!
>> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
>>
>> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
>> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
>> >
>> > What is the difference you ask?
>> >
>> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> complete
>> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
>> > passable lawnmower in six months.
>> >
>> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
>> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> patio
>> > set to an ocean liner...
>> >
>> > That's the difference..
>> >
>> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
>> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
> rear
>> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> hose
>> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
>> > > while
>> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
>> > > system
>> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
> too.
>> > >
>> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
> and
>> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
> rest
>> > > are getting ready.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> > >
>> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
>> > > mechanic"
>> > >> for a leak test
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about
>> > >> >four
>> > > years
>> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> fixed
>> > >> >it
>> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
> fine
>> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
>> > > recharge
>> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
>> > > cooling
>> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about
> a
>> > > week
>> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan
> on
>> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Best Regards,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Marcel
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>
>

billy ray

A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified and
in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However..... that
does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real' mechanics.

In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses (BSN-RNs).
I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind their
name improves their competence.....




"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Are they anything like registered nurses?
>
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
>
> Earle
>
> "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
>> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the bac!!!!
>> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
>>
>> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
>> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
>> >
>> > What is the difference you ask?
>> >
>> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> complete
>> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
>> > passable lawnmower in six months.
>> >
>> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
>> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> patio
>> > set to an ocean liner...
>> >
>> > That's the difference..
>> >
>> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
>> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
> rear
>> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> hose
>> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
>> > > while
>> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
>> > > system
>> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
> too.
>> > >
>> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
> and
>> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
> rest
>> > > are getting ready.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> > >
>> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
>> > > mechanic"
>> > >> for a leak test
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about
>> > >> >four
>> > > years
>> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> fixed
>> > >> >it
>> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
> fine
>> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
>> > > recharge
>> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
>> > > cooling
>> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about
> a
>> > > week
>> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan
> on
>> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Best Regards,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Marcel
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>
>

billy ray

A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified and
in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However..... that
does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real' mechanics.

In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses (BSN-RNs).
I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind their
name improves their competence.....




"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Are they anything like registered nurses?
>
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
>
> Earle
>
> "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
>> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the bac!!!!
>> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
>>
>> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
>> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
>> >
>> > What is the difference you ask?
>> >
>> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> complete
>> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
>> > passable lawnmower in six months.
>> >
>> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
>> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> patio
>> > set to an ocean liner...
>> >
>> > That's the difference..
>> >
>> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
>> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
> rear
>> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> hose
>> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
>> > > while
>> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
>> > > system
>> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
> too.
>> > >
>> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
> and
>> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
> rest
>> > > are getting ready.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> > >
>> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
>> > > mechanic"
>> > >> for a leak test
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about
>> > >> >four
>> > > years
>> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> fixed
>> > >> >it
>> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
> fine
>> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
>> > > recharge
>> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
>> > > cooling
>> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about
> a
>> > > week
>> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan
> on
>> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Best Regards,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Marcel
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>
>

billy ray

A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified and
in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However..... that
does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real' mechanics.

In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses (BSN-RNs).
I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind their
name improves their competence.....




"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Are they anything like registered nurses?
>
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
>
> Earle
>
> "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
>> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the bac!!!!
>> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
>>
>> billy ray wrote:
>>
>> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
>> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
>> >
>> > What is the difference you ask?
>> >
>> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> complete
>> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
>> > passable lawnmower in six months.
>> >
>> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
>> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> patio
>> > set to an ocean liner...
>> >
>> > That's the difference..
>> >
>> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
>> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
>> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
> rear
>> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> hose
>> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
>> > > while
>> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
>> > > system
>> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
> too.
>> > >
>> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
> and
>> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
> rest
>> > > are getting ready.
>> > >
>> > > Earle
>> > >
>> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
>> > > mechanic"
>> > >> for a leak test
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about
>> > >> >four
>> > > years
>> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> fixed
>> > >> >it
>> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
> fine
>> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
>> > > recharge
>> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
>> > > cooling
>> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about
> a
>> > > week
>> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan
> on
>> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Best Regards,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Marcel
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>
>

Earle Horton

This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and a
mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that "emergency
room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field". He
has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his next
mistake.

Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
order?

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified and
> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
that
> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
mechanics.
>
> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses (BSN-RNs).
> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind their
> name improves their competence.....
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> >
> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
bac!!!!
> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> >>
> >> billy ray wrote:
> >>
> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> >> >
> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> >> >
> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> > complete
> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> >> >
> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> > patio
> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> >> >
> >> > That's the difference..
> >> >
> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
Service
> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of
the
> > rear
> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> > hose
> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
then
> >> > > while
> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
the
> >> > > system
> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
interesting
> > too.
> >> > >
> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
O-rings
> > and
> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
the
> > rest
> >> > > are getting ready.
> >> > >
> >> > > Earle
> >> > >
> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> >> > > mechanic"
> >> > >> for a leak test
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about
> >> > >> >four
> >> > > years
> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> > fixed
> >> > >> >it
> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
worked
> > fine
> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought
a
> >> > > recharge
> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
stopped
> >> > > cooling
> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
about
> > a
> >> > > week
> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
plan
> > on
> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Marcel
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Earle Horton

This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and a
mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that "emergency
room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field". He
has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his next
mistake.

Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
order?

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified and
> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
that
> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
mechanics.
>
> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses (BSN-RNs).
> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind their
> name improves their competence.....
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> >
> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
bac!!!!
> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> >>
> >> billy ray wrote:
> >>
> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> >> >
> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> >> >
> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> > complete
> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> >> >
> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> > patio
> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> >> >
> >> > That's the difference..
> >> >
> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
Service
> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of
the
> > rear
> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> > hose
> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
then
> >> > > while
> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
the
> >> > > system
> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
interesting
> > too.
> >> > >
> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
O-rings
> > and
> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
the
> > rest
> >> > > are getting ready.
> >> > >
> >> > > Earle
> >> > >
> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> >> > > mechanic"
> >> > >> for a leak test
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about
> >> > >> >four
> >> > > years
> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> > fixed
> >> > >> >it
> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
worked
> > fine
> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought
a
> >> > > recharge
> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
stopped
> >> > > cooling
> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
about
> > a
> >> > > week
> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
plan
> > on
> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Marcel
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Earle Horton

This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and a
mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that "emergency
room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field". He
has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his next
mistake.

Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
order?

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified and
> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
that
> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
mechanics.
>
> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses (BSN-RNs).
> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind their
> name improves their competence.....
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> >
> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
bac!!!!
> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> >>
> >> billy ray wrote:
> >>
> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> >> >
> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> >> >
> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> > complete
> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> >> >
> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> > patio
> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> >> >
> >> > That's the difference..
> >> >
> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
Service
> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of
the
> > rear
> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> > hose
> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
then
> >> > > while
> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
the
> >> > > system
> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
interesting
> > too.
> >> > >
> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
O-rings
> > and
> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
the
> > rest
> >> > > are getting ready.
> >> > >
> >> > > Earle
> >> > >
> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> >> > > mechanic"
> >> > >> for a leak test
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about
> >> > >> >four
> >> > > years
> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> > fixed
> >> > >> >it
> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
worked
> > fine
> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought
a
> >> > > recharge
> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
stopped
> >> > > cooling
> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
about
> > a
> >> > > week
> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
plan
> > on
> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Marcel
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Earle Horton

This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and a
mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that "emergency
room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field". He
has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his next
mistake.

Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
order?

Earle

"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified and
> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
that
> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
mechanics.
>
> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses (BSN-RNs).
> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind their
> name improves their competence.....
>
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> >
> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
bac!!!!
> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
> >>
> >> billy ray wrote:
> >>
> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> >> >
> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> >> >
> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
> > complete
> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> >> >
> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
> > patio
> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> >> >
> >> > That's the difference..
> >> >
> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
Service
> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of
the
> > rear
> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
> > hose
> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
then
> >> > > while
> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
the
> >> > > system
> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
interesting
> > too.
> >> > >
> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
O-rings
> > and
> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
the
> > rest
> >> > > are getting ready.
> >> > >
> >> > > Earle
> >> > >
> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> >> > > mechanic"
> >> > >> for a leak test
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about
> >> > >> >four
> >> > > years
> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
> > fixed
> >> > >> >it
> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
worked
> > fine
> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought
a
> >> > > recharge
> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
stopped
> >> > > cooling
> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
about
> > a
> >> > > week
> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
plan
> > on
> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Marcel
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

billy ray

Why insert them at all?
Did they all suffer from retention?
Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?


"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse, and a
> mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that he is
> superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that "emergency
> room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the field".
> He
> has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make his
> next
> mistake.
>
> Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a medical
> order?
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
>> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE Certified
>> and
>> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty. However.....
> that
>> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> mechanics.
>>
>> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices against
>> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses (BSN-RNs).
>> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind their
>> name improves their competence.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
>> >
>> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
>> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
>> >
>> > Earle
>> >
>> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
>> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
>> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on the
> bac!!!!
>> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop test
>> >>
>> >> billy ray wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
>> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
>> >> >
>> >> > What is the difference you ask?
>> >> >
>> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a
>> > complete
>> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you
>> >> > a
>> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
>> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a
>> > patio
>> >> > set to an ocean liner...
>> >> >
>> >> > That's the difference..
>> >> >
>> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC
> Service
>> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of
> the
>> > rear
>> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped
>> > hose
>> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses,
> then
>> >> > > while
>> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in
> the
>> >> > > system
>> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> interesting
>> > too.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the
> O-rings
>> > and
>> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking
> the
>> > rest
>> >> > > are getting ready.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Earle
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
>> >> > > mechanic"
>> >> > >> for a leak test
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about
>> >> > >> >four
>> >> > > years
>> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they
>> > fixed
>> >> > >> >it
>> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things
> worked
>> > fine
>> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought
> a
>> >> > > recharge
>> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> stopped
>> >> > > cooling
>> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for
> about
>> > a
>> >> > > week
>> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to
> plan
>> > on
>> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Best Regards,
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> > Marcel
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>