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Hi Earle,
The paramedics associated with our tax payers funded fire
departments out here are heroes.
Nope, I don't really want to know.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
> mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
> the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
> the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
> lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
> treatment.
>
> Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
> before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
> you don't really want to know.
>
> Earle
The paramedics associated with our tax payers funded fire
departments out here are heroes.
Nope, I don't really want to know.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
> mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
> the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
> the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
> lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
> treatment.
>
> Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
> before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
> you don't really want to know.
>
> Earle
Guest
Posts: n/a
Hi Earle,
The paramedics associated with our tax payers funded fire
departments out here are heroes.
Nope, I don't really want to know.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
> mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
> the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
> the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
> lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
> treatment.
>
> Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
> before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
> you don't really want to know.
>
> Earle
The paramedics associated with our tax payers funded fire
departments out here are heroes.
Nope, I don't really want to know.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
> mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
> the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
> the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
> lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
> treatment.
>
> Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
> before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
> you don't really want to know.
>
> Earle
Guest
Posts: n/a
Hi Earle,
The paramedics associated with our tax payers funded fire
departments out here are heroes.
Nope, I don't really want to know.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
> mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
> the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
> the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
> lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
> treatment.
>
> Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
> before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
> you don't really want to know.
>
> Earle
The paramedics associated with our tax payers funded fire
departments out here are heroes.
Nope, I don't really want to know.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
> mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
> the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
> the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
> lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
> treatment.
>
> Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
> before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
> you don't really want to know.
>
> Earle
Guest
Posts: n/a
Bill,
One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
treatment.
Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
you don't really want to know.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E013B.70358F45@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
> City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
> heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
> too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
> to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
> service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
> planed to be with any family member, being transported!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That
is
> > what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to
him
> > he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree,
you
> > can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was
screaming
> > so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> > Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to
listen
> > to me.
> >
> > This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> > Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> > supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty
hard
> > questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby,
politics.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > > Why insert them at all?
> > > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse,
and
> > a
> > > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that
he is
> > > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> > "emergency
> > > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the
field".
> > > > He
> > > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make
his
> > > > next
> > > > mistake.
> > > >
> > > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a
medical
> > > > order?
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE
Certified
> > > >> and
> > > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty.
However.....
> > > > that
> > > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > > mechanics.
> > > >>
> > > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices
against
> > > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> > (BSN-RNs).
> > > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> > their
> > > >> name improves their competence.....
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Earle
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on
the
> > > > bac!!!!
> > > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop
test
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE
Certified
> > > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access
to a
> > > >> > complete
> > > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can
build
> > you
> > > >> >> > a
> > > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a
case
> > of
> > > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything
from
> > a
> > > >> > patio
> > > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified
AC
> > > > Service
> > > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual
inspection
> > of
> > > > the
> > > >> > rear
> > > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> > crimped
> > > >> > hose
> > > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC
hoses,
> > > > then
> > > >> >> > > while
> > > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the
O-rings in
> > > > the
> > > >> >> > > system
> > > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > > interesting
> > > >> > too.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all
the
> > > > O-rings
> > > >> > and
> > > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is
leaking
> > > > the
> > > >> > rest
> > > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Earle
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> > "real
> > > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> > about
> > > >> >> > >> >four
> > > >> >> > > years
> > > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer
and
> > they
> > > >> > fixed
> > > >> >> > >> >it
> > > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser).
Things
> > > > worked
> > > >> > fine
> > > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> > bought
> > > > a
> > > >> >> > > recharge
> > > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > > stopped
> > > >> >> > > cooling
> > > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked
for
> > > > about
> > > >> > a
> > > >> >> > > week
> > > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I
have to
> > > > plan
> > > >> > on
> > > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
treatment.
Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
you don't really want to know.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E013B.70358F45@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
> City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
> heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
> too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
> to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
> service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
> planed to be with any family member, being transported!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That
is
> > what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to
him
> > he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree,
you
> > can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was
screaming
> > so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> > Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to
listen
> > to me.
> >
> > This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> > Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> > supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty
hard
> > questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby,
politics.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > > Why insert them at all?
> > > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse,
and
> > a
> > > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that
he is
> > > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> > "emergency
> > > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the
field".
> > > > He
> > > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make
his
> > > > next
> > > > mistake.
> > > >
> > > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a
medical
> > > > order?
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE
Certified
> > > >> and
> > > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty.
However.....
> > > > that
> > > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > > mechanics.
> > > >>
> > > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices
against
> > > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> > (BSN-RNs).
> > > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> > their
> > > >> name improves their competence.....
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Earle
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on
the
> > > > bac!!!!
> > > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop
test
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE
Certified
> > > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access
to a
> > > >> > complete
> > > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can
build
> > you
> > > >> >> > a
> > > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a
case
> > of
> > > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything
from
> > a
> > > >> > patio
> > > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified
AC
> > > > Service
> > > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual
inspection
> > of
> > > > the
> > > >> > rear
> > > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> > crimped
> > > >> > hose
> > > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC
hoses,
> > > > then
> > > >> >> > > while
> > > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the
O-rings in
> > > > the
> > > >> >> > > system
> > > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > > interesting
> > > >> > too.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all
the
> > > > O-rings
> > > >> > and
> > > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is
leaking
> > > > the
> > > >> > rest
> > > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Earle
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> > "real
> > > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> > about
> > > >> >> > >> >four
> > > >> >> > > years
> > > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer
and
> > they
> > > >> > fixed
> > > >> >> > >> >it
> > > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser).
Things
> > > > worked
> > > >> > fine
> > > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> > bought
> > > > a
> > > >> >> > > recharge
> > > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > > stopped
> > > >> >> > > cooling
> > > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked
for
> > > > about
> > > >> > a
> > > >> >> > > week
> > > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I
have to
> > > > plan
> > > >> > on
> > > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
Guest
Posts: n/a
Bill,
One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
treatment.
Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
you don't really want to know.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E013B.70358F45@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
> City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
> heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
> too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
> to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
> service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
> planed to be with any family member, being transported!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That
is
> > what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to
him
> > he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree,
you
> > can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was
screaming
> > so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> > Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to
listen
> > to me.
> >
> > This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> > Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> > supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty
hard
> > questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby,
politics.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > > Why insert them at all?
> > > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse,
and
> > a
> > > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that
he is
> > > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> > "emergency
> > > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the
field".
> > > > He
> > > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make
his
> > > > next
> > > > mistake.
> > > >
> > > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a
medical
> > > > order?
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE
Certified
> > > >> and
> > > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty.
However.....
> > > > that
> > > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > > mechanics.
> > > >>
> > > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices
against
> > > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> > (BSN-RNs).
> > > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> > their
> > > >> name improves their competence.....
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Earle
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on
the
> > > > bac!!!!
> > > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop
test
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE
Certified
> > > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access
to a
> > > >> > complete
> > > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can
build
> > you
> > > >> >> > a
> > > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a
case
> > of
> > > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything
from
> > a
> > > >> > patio
> > > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified
AC
> > > > Service
> > > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual
inspection
> > of
> > > > the
> > > >> > rear
> > > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> > crimped
> > > >> > hose
> > > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC
hoses,
> > > > then
> > > >> >> > > while
> > > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the
O-rings in
> > > > the
> > > >> >> > > system
> > > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > > interesting
> > > >> > too.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all
the
> > > > O-rings
> > > >> > and
> > > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is
leaking
> > > > the
> > > >> > rest
> > > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Earle
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> > "real
> > > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> > about
> > > >> >> > >> >four
> > > >> >> > > years
> > > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer
and
> > they
> > > >> > fixed
> > > >> >> > >> >it
> > > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser).
Things
> > > > worked
> > > >> > fine
> > > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> > bought
> > > > a
> > > >> >> > > recharge
> > > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > > stopped
> > > >> >> > > cooling
> > > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked
for
> > > > about
> > > >> > a
> > > >> >> > > week
> > > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I
have to
> > > > plan
> > > >> > on
> > > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
treatment.
Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
you don't really want to know.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E013B.70358F45@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
> City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
> heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
> too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
> to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
> service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
> planed to be with any family member, being transported!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That
is
> > what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to
him
> > he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree,
you
> > can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was
screaming
> > so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> > Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to
listen
> > to me.
> >
> > This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> > Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> > supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty
hard
> > questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby,
politics.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > > Why insert them at all?
> > > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse,
and
> > a
> > > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that
he is
> > > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> > "emergency
> > > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the
field".
> > > > He
> > > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make
his
> > > > next
> > > > mistake.
> > > >
> > > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a
medical
> > > > order?
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE
Certified
> > > >> and
> > > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty.
However.....
> > > > that
> > > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > > mechanics.
> > > >>
> > > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices
against
> > > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> > (BSN-RNs).
> > > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> > their
> > > >> name improves their competence.....
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Earle
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on
the
> > > > bac!!!!
> > > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop
test
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE
Certified
> > > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access
to a
> > > >> > complete
> > > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can
build
> > you
> > > >> >> > a
> > > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a
case
> > of
> > > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything
from
> > a
> > > >> > patio
> > > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified
AC
> > > > Service
> > > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual
inspection
> > of
> > > > the
> > > >> > rear
> > > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> > crimped
> > > >> > hose
> > > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC
hoses,
> > > > then
> > > >> >> > > while
> > > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the
O-rings in
> > > > the
> > > >> >> > > system
> > > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > > interesting
> > > >> > too.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all
the
> > > > O-rings
> > > >> > and
> > > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is
leaking
> > > > the
> > > >> > rest
> > > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Earle
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> > "real
> > > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> > about
> > > >> >> > >> >four
> > > >> >> > > years
> > > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer
and
> > they
> > > >> > fixed
> > > >> >> > >> >it
> > > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser).
Things
> > > > worked
> > > >> > fine
> > > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> > bought
> > > > a
> > > >> >> > > recharge
> > > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > > stopped
> > > >> >> > > cooling
> > > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked
for
> > > > about
> > > >> > a
> > > >> >> > > week
> > > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I
have to
> > > > plan
> > > >> > on
> > > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
Guest
Posts: n/a
Bill,
One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
treatment.
Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
you don't really want to know.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E013B.70358F45@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
> City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
> heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
> too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
> to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
> service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
> planed to be with any family member, being transported!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That
is
> > what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to
him
> > he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree,
you
> > can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was
screaming
> > so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> > Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to
listen
> > to me.
> >
> > This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> > Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> > supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty
hard
> > questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby,
politics.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > > Why insert them at all?
> > > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse,
and
> > a
> > > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that
he is
> > > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> > "emergency
> > > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the
field".
> > > > He
> > > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make
his
> > > > next
> > > > mistake.
> > > >
> > > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a
medical
> > > > order?
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE
Certified
> > > >> and
> > > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty.
However.....
> > > > that
> > > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > > mechanics.
> > > >>
> > > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices
against
> > > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> > (BSN-RNs).
> > > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> > their
> > > >> name improves their competence.....
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Earle
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on
the
> > > > bac!!!!
> > > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop
test
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE
Certified
> > > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access
to a
> > > >> > complete
> > > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can
build
> > you
> > > >> >> > a
> > > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a
case
> > of
> > > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything
from
> > a
> > > >> > patio
> > > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified
AC
> > > > Service
> > > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual
inspection
> > of
> > > > the
> > > >> > rear
> > > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> > crimped
> > > >> > hose
> > > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC
hoses,
> > > > then
> > > >> >> > > while
> > > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the
O-rings in
> > > > the
> > > >> >> > > system
> > > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > > interesting
> > > >> > too.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all
the
> > > > O-rings
> > > >> > and
> > > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is
leaking
> > > > the
> > > >> > rest
> > > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Earle
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> > "real
> > > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> > about
> > > >> >> > >> >four
> > > >> >> > > years
> > > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer
and
> > they
> > > >> > fixed
> > > >> >> > >> >it
> > > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser).
Things
> > > > worked
> > > >> > fine
> > > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> > bought
> > > > a
> > > >> >> > > recharge
> > > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > > stopped
> > > >> >> > > cooling
> > > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked
for
> > > > about
> > > >> > a
> > > >> >> > > week
> > > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I
have to
> > > > plan
> > > >> > on
> > > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
treatment.
Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
you don't really want to know.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E013B.70358F45@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
> City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
> heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
> too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
> to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
> service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
> planed to be with any family member, being transported!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That
is
> > what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to
him
> > he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree,
you
> > can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was
screaming
> > so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> > Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to
listen
> > to me.
> >
> > This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> > Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> > supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty
hard
> > questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby,
politics.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > > Why insert them at all?
> > > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse,
and
> > a
> > > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that
he is
> > > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> > "emergency
> > > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the
field".
> > > > He
> > > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make
his
> > > > next
> > > > mistake.
> > > >
> > > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a
medical
> > > > order?
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE
Certified
> > > >> and
> > > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty.
However.....
> > > > that
> > > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > > mechanics.
> > > >>
> > > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices
against
> > > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> > (BSN-RNs).
> > > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> > their
> > > >> name improves their competence.....
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Earle
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on
the
> > > > bac!!!!
> > > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop
test
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE
Certified
> > > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access
to a
> > > >> > complete
> > > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can
build
> > you
> > > >> >> > a
> > > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a
case
> > of
> > > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything
from
> > a
> > > >> > patio
> > > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified
AC
> > > > Service
> > > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual
inspection
> > of
> > > > the
> > > >> > rear
> > > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> > crimped
> > > >> > hose
> > > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC
hoses,
> > > > then
> > > >> >> > > while
> > > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the
O-rings in
> > > > the
> > > >> >> > > system
> > > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > > interesting
> > > >> > too.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all
the
> > > > O-rings
> > > >> > and
> > > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is
leaking
> > > > the
> > > >> > rest
> > > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Earle
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> > "real
> > > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> > about
> > > >> >> > >> >four
> > > >> >> > > years
> > > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer
and
> > they
> > > >> > fixed
> > > >> >> > >> >it
> > > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser).
Things
> > > > worked
> > > >> > fine
> > > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> > bought
> > > > a
> > > >> >> > > recharge
> > > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > > stopped
> > > >> >> > > cooling
> > > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked
for
> > > > about
> > > >> > a
> > > >> >> > > week
> > > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I
have to
> > > > plan
> > > >> > on
> > > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
Guest
Posts: n/a
Bill,
One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
treatment.
Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
you don't really want to know.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E013B.70358F45@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
> City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
> heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
> too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
> to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
> service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
> planed to be with any family member, being transported!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That
is
> > what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to
him
> > he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree,
you
> > can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was
screaming
> > so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> > Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to
listen
> > to me.
> >
> > This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> > Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> > supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty
hard
> > questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby,
politics.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > > Why insert them at all?
> > > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse,
and
> > a
> > > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that
he is
> > > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> > "emergency
> > > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the
field".
> > > > He
> > > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make
his
> > > > next
> > > > mistake.
> > > >
> > > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a
medical
> > > > order?
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE
Certified
> > > >> and
> > > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty.
However.....
> > > > that
> > > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > > mechanics.
> > > >>
> > > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices
against
> > > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> > (BSN-RNs).
> > > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> > their
> > > >> name improves their competence.....
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Earle
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on
the
> > > > bac!!!!
> > > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop
test
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE
Certified
> > > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access
to a
> > > >> > complete
> > > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can
build
> > you
> > > >> >> > a
> > > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a
case
> > of
> > > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything
from
> > a
> > > >> > patio
> > > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified
AC
> > > > Service
> > > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual
inspection
> > of
> > > > the
> > > >> > rear
> > > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> > crimped
> > > >> > hose
> > > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC
hoses,
> > > > then
> > > >> >> > > while
> > > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the
O-rings in
> > > > the
> > > >> >> > > system
> > > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > > interesting
> > > >> > too.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all
the
> > > > O-rings
> > > >> > and
> > > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is
leaking
> > > > the
> > > >> > rest
> > > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Earle
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> > "real
> > > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> > about
> > > >> >> > >> >four
> > > >> >> > > years
> > > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer
and
> > they
> > > >> > fixed
> > > >> >> > >> >it
> > > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser).
Things
> > > > worked
> > > >> > fine
> > > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> > bought
> > > > a
> > > >> >> > > recharge
> > > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > > stopped
> > > >> >> > > cooling
> > > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked
for
> > > > about
> > > >> > a
> > > >> >> > > week
> > > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I
have to
> > > > plan
> > > >> > on
> > > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
One of the problems, is that the public thinks these people are angels of
mercy. Some of them are. Some of them are as crazy as a fruit bat. One of
the texts I read for a psych. class said, that there were more nut cases in
the "helping professions", than in the normal population. The very first
lesson, in EMT class, is that you *always* have to obtain consent for any
treatment.
Next time, report the sons of -----s. Find out how the system really works,
before it is you being transported back to your convalescent home. Or maybe
you don't really want to know.
Earle
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:441E013B.70358F45@***.net...
> Hi Earle,
> I overheard a couple ambulance attends while visiting my Mom at Tri
> City Hospital, Oceanside, Kalifornia saying they wanted to practice a
> heart start medicine, injected straight into the heart of an old lady
> too senile to ever be able to tell, while she was being transported back
> to her convalescent home. I bet they would have charged for that
> service, too. Scare the heck, out of me! So I did nothing. :-( Just
> planed to be with any family member, being transported!
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > He didn't have orders, patient consent, or medical justification. That
is
> > what the Letter of Admonition is all about. The last time I talked to
him
> > he told me that "I am a registered nurse, I have an associate's degree,
you
> > can't question me, you don't know what I know". At the end he was
screaming
> > so loud my other neighbor heard it. Then he went and told the Board of
> > Directors of the Ambulance Association that I was crazy, and not to
listen
> > to me.
> >
> > This was all OK with me. It was like pulling teeth, getting the Nursing
> > Board to write that letter, but in the end they did it. His buddies who
> > supported him, a county commissioner and a sheriff, have some pretty
hard
> > questions to answer come next election. Now I have a new hobby,
politics.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:858e6$441dcd68$4831b233$28860@FUSE.NET...
> > > Why insert them at all?
> > > Did they all suffer from retention?
> > > Did he offer any justification other than 'I made a judgment?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > news:441db9e6$0$21263$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > > This particular waste of human life is an associate's degree nurse,
and
> > a
> > > > mail order (http://www.excelsior.edu) one to boot. He thinks that
he is
> > > > superior to hospital nurses, university nurses, EMTs, and that
> > "emergency
> > > > room doctors are not qualified to second guess what I do in the
field".
> > > > He
> > > > has been taken down a peg or two, but I am waiting for him to make
his
> > > > next
> > > > mistake.
> > > >
> > > > Why would anyone put Foley catheters in six patients, without a
medical
> > > > order?
> > > >
> > > > Earle
> > > >
> > > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:e0a15$441d90d5$4831b233$32018@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> A 'real' mechanic certainly has the qualifications to be ASE
Certified
> > > >> and
> > > >> in today's business environment it is almost a certainty.
However.....
> > > > that
> > > >> does not mean that all ASE Technicians can be considered 'real'
> > > > mechanics.
> > > >>
> > > >> In the nursing world there are, as you know, great prejudices
against
> > > >> hospital trained nurses (RNs) by the university trained nurses
> > (BSN-RNs).
> > > >> I have never seen where the addition of these three letters behind
> > their
> > > >> name improves their competence.....
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> news:441d7d5e$0$21264$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> > Are they anything like registered nurses?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/letter.tif
> > > >> > http://earlehorton.tripod.com/nurse/finding.tif
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Earle
> > > >> >
> > > >> > "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > >> > news:441D6D9B.728C559B@cac.net...
> > > >> >> ins't it funny how ase tech are so busy patting them selfs on
the
> > > > bac!!!!
> > > >> >> i can tell u how many i had to explain how to do a voltage drop
test
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> billy ray wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE
Certified
> > > >> >> > Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > What is the difference you ask?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access
to a
> > > >> > complete
> > > >> >> > machine shop and every reference book ever written he can
build
> > you
> > > >> >> > a
> > > >> >> > passable lawnmower in six months.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a
case
> > of
> > > >> >> > Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything
from
> > a
> > > >> > patio
> > > >> >> > set to an ocean liner...
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > That's the difference..
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > >> >> > >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified
AC
> > > > Service
> > > >> >> > > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual
inspection
> > of
> > > > the
> > > >> > rear
> > > >> >> > > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a
> > crimped
> > > >> > hose
> > > >> >> > > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC
hoses,
> > > > then
> > > >> >> > > while
> > > >> >> > > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the
O-rings in
> > > > the
> > > >> >> > > system
> > > >> >> > > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was
> > > > interesting
> > > >> > too.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all
the
> > > > O-rings
> > > >> > and
> > > >> >> > > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is
leaking
> > > > the
> > > >> > rest
> > > >> >> > > are getting ready.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Earle
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> > > >> >> > >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a
> > "real
> > > >> >> > > mechanic"
> > > >> >> > >> for a leak test
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > >> >> > >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> > > >> >> > >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for
> > about
> > > >> >> > >> >four
> > > >> >> > > years
> > > >> >> > >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer
and
> > they
> > > >> > fixed
> > > >> >> > >> >it
> > > >> >> > >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser).
Things
> > > > worked
> > > >> > fine
> > > >> >> > >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I
> > bought
> > > > a
> > > >> >> > > recharge
> > > >> >> > >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC
> > > > stopped
> > > >> >> > > cooling
> > > >> >> > >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked
for
> > > > about
> > > >> > a
> > > >> >> > > week
> > > >> >> > >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I
have to
> > > > plan
> > > >> > on
> > > >> >> > >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Best Regards,
> > > >> >> > >> >
> > > >> >> > >> > Marcel
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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Hi Earle,
You probably saved the tree.
I used to ride a murdercycle on I-5 and the winter time nights,
when the freeway would drop down to sea level, it was unbearably cold.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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Earle Horton wrote:
>
> We tried the sprinkler trick one year at peach blossom time in Virginia.
> All we got was frozen peach blossoms. Last time I looked, windmills fired
> by gasoline engine were pretty popular. It seems there is often a layer of
> warm air, just above the orchard in the early morning.
>
> Earle
You probably saved the tree.
I used to ride a murdercycle on I-5 and the winter time nights,
when the freeway would drop down to sea level, it was unbearably cold.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> We tried the sprinkler trick one year at peach blossom time in Virginia.
> All we got was frozen peach blossoms. Last time I looked, windmills fired
> by gasoline engine were pretty popular. It seems there is often a layer of
> warm air, just above the orchard in the early morning.
>
> Earle
Guest
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Hi Earle,
You probably saved the tree.
I used to ride a murdercycle on I-5 and the winter time nights,
when the freeway would drop down to sea level, it was unbearably cold.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> We tried the sprinkler trick one year at peach blossom time in Virginia.
> All we got was frozen peach blossoms. Last time I looked, windmills fired
> by gasoline engine were pretty popular. It seems there is often a layer of
> warm air, just above the orchard in the early morning.
>
> Earle
You probably saved the tree.
I used to ride a murdercycle on I-5 and the winter time nights,
when the freeway would drop down to sea level, it was unbearably cold.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> We tried the sprinkler trick one year at peach blossom time in Virginia.
> All we got was frozen peach blossoms. Last time I looked, windmills fired
> by gasoline engine were pretty popular. It seems there is often a layer of
> warm air, just above the orchard in the early morning.
>
> Earle
Guest
Posts: n/a
Hi Earle,
You probably saved the tree.
I used to ride a murdercycle on I-5 and the winter time nights,
when the freeway would drop down to sea level, it was unbearably cold.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> We tried the sprinkler trick one year at peach blossom time in Virginia.
> All we got was frozen peach blossoms. Last time I looked, windmills fired
> by gasoline engine were pretty popular. It seems there is often a layer of
> warm air, just above the orchard in the early morning.
>
> Earle
You probably saved the tree.
I used to ride a murdercycle on I-5 and the winter time nights,
when the freeway would drop down to sea level, it was unbearably cold.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Earle Horton wrote:
>
> We tried the sprinkler trick one year at peach blossom time in Virginia.
> All we got was frozen peach blossoms. Last time I looked, windmills fired
> by gasoline engine were pretty popular. It seems there is often a layer of
> warm air, just above the orchard in the early morning.
>
> Earle


