'96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
03-18-2006, 08:48 PM
#11
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the rear
AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then while
I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the system
myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting too.
This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings and
any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the rest
are getting ready.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
mechanic"
> for a leak test
>
>
> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
years
> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed it
> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked fine
> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
recharge
> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
cooling
> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
week
> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Marcel
>
>
Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the rear
AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then while
I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the system
myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting too.
This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings and
any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the rest
are getting ready.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
mechanic"
> for a leak test
>
>
> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
years
> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed it
> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked fine
> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
recharge
> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
cooling
> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
week
> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Marcel
>
>
03-18-2006, 08:48 PM
#12
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Posts: n/a
Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the rear
AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then while
I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the system
myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting too.
This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings and
any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the rest
are getting ready.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
mechanic"
> for a leak test
>
>
> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
years
> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed it
> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked fine
> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
recharge
> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
cooling
> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
week
> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Marcel
>
>
Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the rear
AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then while
I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the system
myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting too.
This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings and
any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the rest
are getting ready.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
mechanic"
> for a leak test
>
>
> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
years
> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed it
> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked fine
> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
recharge
> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
cooling
> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
week
> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Marcel
>
>
03-18-2006, 08:48 PM
#13
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Posts: n/a
Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the rear
AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then while
I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the system
myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting too.
This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings and
any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the rest
are getting ready.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
mechanic"
> for a leak test
>
>
> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
years
> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed it
> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked fine
> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
recharge
> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
cooling
> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
week
> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Marcel
>
>
Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the rear
AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then while
I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the system
myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting too.
This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings and
any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the rest
are getting ready.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
mechanic"
> for a leak test
>
>
> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
years
> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed it
> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked fine
> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
recharge
> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
cooling
> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
week
> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >
> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Marcel
>
>
03-18-2006, 08:51 PM
#14
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Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
What is the difference you ask?
If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a complete
machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
passable lawnmower in six months.
Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a patio
set to an ocean liner...
That's the difference..
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the rear
> AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
> fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> while
> I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> system
> myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting too.
>
> This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings and
> any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the rest
> are getting ready.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> mechanic"
>> for a leak test
>>
>>
>> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> years
>> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed
>> >it
>> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked fine
>> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> recharge
>> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> cooling
>> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
> week
>> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> >
>> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
>> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Marcel
>>
>>
>
>
Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
What is the difference you ask?
If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a complete
machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
passable lawnmower in six months.
Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a patio
set to an ocean liner...
That's the difference..
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the rear
> AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
> fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> while
> I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> system
> myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting too.
>
> This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings and
> any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the rest
> are getting ready.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> mechanic"
>> for a leak test
>>
>>
>> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> years
>> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed
>> >it
>> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked fine
>> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> recharge
>> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> cooling
>> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
> week
>> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> >
>> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
>> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Marcel
>>
>>
>
>
03-18-2006, 08:51 PM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
What is the difference you ask?
If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a complete
machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
passable lawnmower in six months.
Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a patio
set to an ocean liner...
That's the difference..
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the rear
> AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
> fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> while
> I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> system
> myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting too.
>
> This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings and
> any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the rest
> are getting ready.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> mechanic"
>> for a leak test
>>
>>
>> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> years
>> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed
>> >it
>> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked fine
>> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> recharge
>> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> cooling
>> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
> week
>> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> >
>> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
>> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Marcel
>>
>>
>
>
Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
What is the difference you ask?
If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a complete
machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
passable lawnmower in six months.
Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a patio
set to an ocean liner...
That's the difference..
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the rear
> AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
> fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> while
> I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> system
> myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting too.
>
> This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings and
> any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the rest
> are getting ready.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> mechanic"
>> for a leak test
>>
>>
>> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> years
>> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed
>> >it
>> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked fine
>> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> recharge
>> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> cooling
>> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
> week
>> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> >
>> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
>> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Marcel
>>
>>
>
>
03-18-2006, 08:51 PM
#16
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
What is the difference you ask?
If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a complete
machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
passable lawnmower in six months.
Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a patio
set to an ocean liner...
That's the difference..
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the rear
> AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
> fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> while
> I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> system
> myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting too.
>
> This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings and
> any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the rest
> are getting ready.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> mechanic"
>> for a leak test
>>
>>
>> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> years
>> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed
>> >it
>> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked fine
>> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> recharge
>> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> cooling
>> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
> week
>> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> >
>> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
>> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Marcel
>>
>>
>
>
Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
What is the difference you ask?
If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a complete
machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
passable lawnmower in six months.
Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a patio
set to an ocean liner...
That's the difference..
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the rear
> AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
> fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> while
> I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> system
> myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting too.
>
> This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings and
> any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the rest
> are getting ready.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> mechanic"
>> for a leak test
>>
>>
>> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> years
>> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed
>> >it
>> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked fine
>> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> recharge
>> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> cooling
>> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
> week
>> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> >
>> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
>> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Marcel
>>
>>
>
>
03-18-2006, 08:51 PM
#17
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
What is the difference you ask?
If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a complete
machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
passable lawnmower in six months.
Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a patio
set to an ocean liner...
That's the difference..
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the rear
> AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
> fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> while
> I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> system
> myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting too.
>
> This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings and
> any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the rest
> are getting ready.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> mechanic"
>> for a leak test
>>
>>
>> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> years
>> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed
>> >it
>> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked fine
>> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> recharge
>> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> cooling
>> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
> week
>> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> >
>> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
>> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Marcel
>>
>>
>
>
Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
What is the difference you ask?
If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a complete
machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
passable lawnmower in six months.
Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a patio
set to an ocean liner...
That's the difference..
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
>I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the rear
> AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
> fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> while
> I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> system
> myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting too.
>
> This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings and
> any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the rest
> are getting ready.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
>> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> mechanic"
>> for a leak test
>>
>>
>> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
>> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> years
>> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed
>> >it
>> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked fine
>> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> recharge
>> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> cooling
>> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
> week
>> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
>> >
>> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
>> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> > Marcel
>>
>>
>
>
03-18-2006, 11:33 PM
#18
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Part of the problem is that you can't work on AC for money without a fancy
charging station and an even fancier EPA permit. This prevents the two
mechanics in town from doing any AC work. I don't have a commercial
business, but the two installations I did for myself more than paid for the
vacuum pump and set of gauges I bought. Don't ask me what happened to the
waste refrigerant. It must have all leaked out.
O-rings are 90% of the problem. It is false economy to save a few dollars
on each system, while giving your customers years and years of repair bill
headache.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:4cc93$441cb94a$4831b233$26769@FUSE.NET...
> That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
>
> What is the difference you ask?
>
> If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a complete
> machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> passable lawnmower in six months.
>
> Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a patio
> set to an ocean liner...
>
> That's the difference..
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
rear
> > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
> > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > while
> > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > system
> > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
too.
> >
> > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
and
> > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
rest
> > are getting ready.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > mechanic"
> >> for a leak test
> >>
> >>
> >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > years
> >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed
> >> >it
> >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
fine
> >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > recharge
> >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > cooling
> >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
> > week
> >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
> >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Marcel
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
charging station and an even fancier EPA permit. This prevents the two
mechanics in town from doing any AC work. I don't have a commercial
business, but the two installations I did for myself more than paid for the
vacuum pump and set of gauges I bought. Don't ask me what happened to the
waste refrigerant. It must have all leaked out.
O-rings are 90% of the problem. It is false economy to save a few dollars
on each system, while giving your customers years and years of repair bill
headache.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:4cc93$441cb94a$4831b233$26769@FUSE.NET...
> That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
>
> What is the difference you ask?
>
> If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a complete
> machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> passable lawnmower in six months.
>
> Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a patio
> set to an ocean liner...
>
> That's the difference..
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
rear
> > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
> > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > while
> > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > system
> > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
too.
> >
> > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
and
> > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
rest
> > are getting ready.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > mechanic"
> >> for a leak test
> >>
> >>
> >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > years
> >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed
> >> >it
> >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
fine
> >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > recharge
> >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > cooling
> >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
> > week
> >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
> >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Marcel
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
03-18-2006, 11:33 PM
#19
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Part of the problem is that you can't work on AC for money without a fancy
charging station and an even fancier EPA permit. This prevents the two
mechanics in town from doing any AC work. I don't have a commercial
business, but the two installations I did for myself more than paid for the
vacuum pump and set of gauges I bought. Don't ask me what happened to the
waste refrigerant. It must have all leaked out.
O-rings are 90% of the problem. It is false economy to save a few dollars
on each system, while giving your customers years and years of repair bill
headache.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:4cc93$441cb94a$4831b233$26769@FUSE.NET...
> That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
>
> What is the difference you ask?
>
> If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a complete
> machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> passable lawnmower in six months.
>
> Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a patio
> set to an ocean liner...
>
> That's the difference..
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
rear
> > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
> > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > while
> > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > system
> > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
too.
> >
> > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
and
> > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
rest
> > are getting ready.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > mechanic"
> >> for a leak test
> >>
> >>
> >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > years
> >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed
> >> >it
> >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
fine
> >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > recharge
> >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > cooling
> >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
> > week
> >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
> >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Marcel
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
charging station and an even fancier EPA permit. This prevents the two
mechanics in town from doing any AC work. I don't have a commercial
business, but the two installations I did for myself more than paid for the
vacuum pump and set of gauges I bought. Don't ask me what happened to the
waste refrigerant. It must have all leaked out.
O-rings are 90% of the problem. It is false economy to save a few dollars
on each system, while giving your customers years and years of repair bill
headache.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:4cc93$441cb94a$4831b233$26769@FUSE.NET...
> That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
>
> What is the difference you ask?
>
> If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a complete
> machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> passable lawnmower in six months.
>
> Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a patio
> set to an ocean liner...
>
> That's the difference..
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
rear
> > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
> > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > while
> > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > system
> > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
too.
> >
> > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
and
> > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
rest
> > are getting ready.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > mechanic"
> >> for a leak test
> >>
> >>
> >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > years
> >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed
> >> >it
> >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
fine
> >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > recharge
> >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > cooling
> >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
> > week
> >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
> >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Marcel
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
03-18-2006, 11:33 PM
#20
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '96 GC Air Conditioner Woes
Part of the problem is that you can't work on AC for money without a fancy
charging station and an even fancier EPA permit. This prevents the two
mechanics in town from doing any AC work. I don't have a commercial
business, but the two installations I did for myself more than paid for the
vacuum pump and set of gauges I bought. Don't ask me what happened to the
waste refrigerant. It must have all leaked out.
O-rings are 90% of the problem. It is false economy to save a few dollars
on each system, while giving your customers years and years of repair bill
headache.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:4cc93$441cb94a$4831b233$26769@FUSE.NET...
> That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
>
> What is the difference you ask?
>
> If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a complete
> machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> passable lawnmower in six months.
>
> Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a patio
> set to an ocean liner...
>
> That's the difference..
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
rear
> > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
> > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > while
> > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > system
> > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
too.
> >
> > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
and
> > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
rest
> > are getting ready.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > mechanic"
> >> for a leak test
> >>
> >>
> >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > years
> >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed
> >> >it
> >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
fine
> >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > recharge
> >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > cooling
> >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
> > week
> >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
> >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Marcel
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
charging station and an even fancier EPA permit. This prevents the two
mechanics in town from doing any AC work. I don't have a commercial
business, but the two installations I did for myself more than paid for the
vacuum pump and set of gauges I bought. Don't ask me what happened to the
waste refrigerant. It must have all leaked out.
O-rings are 90% of the problem. It is false economy to save a few dollars
on each system, while giving your customers years and years of repair bill
headache.
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:4cc93$441cb94a$4831b233$26769@FUSE.NET...
> That was probably the problem... you took it to an "ASE Certified
> Technician" instead of having a mechanic look at it...
>
> What is the difference you ask?
>
> If you turn a technician loose in a salvage yard with access to a complete
> machine shop and every reference book ever written he can build you a
> passable lawnmower in six months.
>
> Now give a mechanic 4 wrenches, 2 screw drivers, a hammer, a case of
> Hudepohl, and a pouch of Redman and he can build you anything from a patio
> set to an ocean liner...
>
> That's the difference..
>
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:441cb5cf$0$21256$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> >I had one like this, in a Suburban. None of the "Certified AC Service
> > Centers" I took it to had the brains to do a visual inspection of the
rear
> > AC unit. Guess what was leaking, with oil dripping from a crimped hose
> > fitting? I figured this out myself, replaced the rear AC hoses, then
> > while
> > I was at it bought an O-ring kit and replaced all the O-rings in the
> > system
> > myself. That was interesting. That metering orifice was interesting
too.
> >
> > This guy would be ahead asking an AC shop to replace "all the O-rings
and
> > any hose that looks like it needs it". If one O-ring is leaking the
rest
> > are getting ready.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> > news:49cfe$441ca012$4831b233$10896@FUSE.NET...
> >> It probably has a leak that is growing worse. Take it to a "real
> > mechanic"
> >> for a leak test
> >>
> >>
> >> "mlee" <maleemi@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> news:yZ0Tf.303$wD1.291@trnddc02...
> >> >I bought my used '96 Grand in '98. The AC worked fine for about four
> > years
> >> >but stopped cooling in '02. I took it to my Jeep dealer and they fixed
> >> >it
> >> >free of charge (I think they replaced the condenser). Things worked
fine
> >> >for about four years but once again it stopped cooling. I bought a
> > recharge
> >> >kit and everything worked ok for about a month than the AC stopped
> > cooling
> >> >again. I bought another recharge kit and that only worked for about a
> > week
> >> >so it looks like it's back to the dealer :(.
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone tell me what the deal is with the AC? Do I have to plan on
> >> > replacing the condenser every 4 years?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Marcel
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>