'88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
#131
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Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
They still "oil" cars up here in New Hampshire. By law they use a clean
straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
to high heaven.
--
222jeff
Mike Romain wrote:
> SnoMan wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:38:41 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately that oil treatment won't work for the OP or anyone who
>>> off roads because we have to clean the undersides and frames to get
>>> the mud and sand out or oil or no oil, that sand pack will rot things.
>>
>>
>> Actually it will because when you see rust start to appear you can
>> treat it plus water with not wash it off and it will take a few trips
>> through mud to wash it out. Gear oil is tuff to wash off.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
> It 'still' won't work because we have to clean under our vehicles.
>
> When you put a spray washer to those oil soaked parts and now oil soaked
> sand or mud pack, the oil will wash out with it and make a really bad
> environmental mess in the driveway and out in the street where it drains
> every weekend. The government around here would freak on you and yes,
> the neighbors 'would' call to complain.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
to high heaven.
--
222jeff
Mike Romain wrote:
> SnoMan wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:38:41 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately that oil treatment won't work for the OP or anyone who
>>> off roads because we have to clean the undersides and frames to get
>>> the mud and sand out or oil or no oil, that sand pack will rot things.
>>
>>
>> Actually it will because when you see rust start to appear you can
>> treat it plus water with not wash it off and it will take a few trips
>> through mud to wash it out. Gear oil is tuff to wash off.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
> It 'still' won't work because we have to clean under our vehicles.
>
> When you put a spray washer to those oil soaked parts and now oil soaked
> sand or mud pack, the oil will wash out with it and make a really bad
> environmental mess in the driveway and out in the street where it drains
> every weekend. The government around here would freak on you and yes,
> the neighbors 'would' call to complain.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#132
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Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
They still "oil" cars up here in New Hampshire. By law they use a clean
straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
to high heaven.
--
222jeff
Mike Romain wrote:
> SnoMan wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:38:41 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately that oil treatment won't work for the OP or anyone who
>>> off roads because we have to clean the undersides and frames to get
>>> the mud and sand out or oil or no oil, that sand pack will rot things.
>>
>>
>> Actually it will because when you see rust start to appear you can
>> treat it plus water with not wash it off and it will take a few trips
>> through mud to wash it out. Gear oil is tuff to wash off.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
> It 'still' won't work because we have to clean under our vehicles.
>
> When you put a spray washer to those oil soaked parts and now oil soaked
> sand or mud pack, the oil will wash out with it and make a really bad
> environmental mess in the driveway and out in the street where it drains
> every weekend. The government around here would freak on you and yes,
> the neighbors 'would' call to complain.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
to high heaven.
--
222jeff
Mike Romain wrote:
> SnoMan wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:38:41 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately that oil treatment won't work for the OP or anyone who
>>> off roads because we have to clean the undersides and frames to get
>>> the mud and sand out or oil or no oil, that sand pack will rot things.
>>
>>
>> Actually it will because when you see rust start to appear you can
>> treat it plus water with not wash it off and it will take a few trips
>> through mud to wash it out. Gear oil is tuff to wash off.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
> It 'still' won't work because we have to clean under our vehicles.
>
> When you put a spray washer to those oil soaked parts and now oil soaked
> sand or mud pack, the oil will wash out with it and make a really bad
> environmental mess in the driveway and out in the street where it drains
> every weekend. The government around here would freak on you and yes,
> the neighbors 'would' call to complain.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#133
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Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
They still "oil" cars up here in New Hampshire. By law they use a clean
straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
to high heaven.
--
222jeff
Mike Romain wrote:
> SnoMan wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:38:41 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately that oil treatment won't work for the OP or anyone who
>>> off roads because we have to clean the undersides and frames to get
>>> the mud and sand out or oil or no oil, that sand pack will rot things.
>>
>>
>> Actually it will because when you see rust start to appear you can
>> treat it plus water with not wash it off and it will take a few trips
>> through mud to wash it out. Gear oil is tuff to wash off.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
> It 'still' won't work because we have to clean under our vehicles.
>
> When you put a spray washer to those oil soaked parts and now oil soaked
> sand or mud pack, the oil will wash out with it and make a really bad
> environmental mess in the driveway and out in the street where it drains
> every weekend. The government around here would freak on you and yes,
> the neighbors 'would' call to complain.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
to high heaven.
--
222jeff
Mike Romain wrote:
> SnoMan wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:38:41 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately that oil treatment won't work for the OP or anyone who
>>> off roads because we have to clean the undersides and frames to get
>>> the mud and sand out or oil or no oil, that sand pack will rot things.
>>
>>
>> Actually it will because when you see rust start to appear you can
>> treat it plus water with not wash it off and it will take a few trips
>> through mud to wash it out. Gear oil is tuff to wash off.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
> It 'still' won't work because we have to clean under our vehicles.
>
> When you put a spray washer to those oil soaked parts and now oil soaked
> sand or mud pack, the oil will wash out with it and make a really bad
> environmental mess in the driveway and out in the street where it drains
> every weekend. The government around here would freak on you and yes,
> the neighbors 'would' call to complain.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#134
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Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
They still "oil" cars up here in New Hampshire. By law they use a clean
straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
to high heaven.
--
222jeff
Mike Romain wrote:
> SnoMan wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:38:41 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately that oil treatment won't work for the OP or anyone who
>>> off roads because we have to clean the undersides and frames to get
>>> the mud and sand out or oil or no oil, that sand pack will rot things.
>>
>>
>> Actually it will because when you see rust start to appear you can
>> treat it plus water with not wash it off and it will take a few trips
>> through mud to wash it out. Gear oil is tuff to wash off.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
> It 'still' won't work because we have to clean under our vehicles.
>
> When you put a spray washer to those oil soaked parts and now oil soaked
> sand or mud pack, the oil will wash out with it and make a really bad
> environmental mess in the driveway and out in the street where it drains
> every weekend. The government around here would freak on you and yes,
> the neighbors 'would' call to complain.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
to high heaven.
--
222jeff
Mike Romain wrote:
> SnoMan wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:38:41 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately that oil treatment won't work for the OP or anyone who
>>> off roads because we have to clean the undersides and frames to get
>>> the mud and sand out or oil or no oil, that sand pack will rot things.
>>
>>
>> Actually it will because when you see rust start to appear you can
>> treat it plus water with not wash it off and it will take a few trips
>> through mud to wash it out. Gear oil is tuff to wash off.
>> -----------------
>> TheSnoMan.com
>
> It 'still' won't work because we have to clean under our vehicles.
>
> When you put a spray washer to those oil soaked parts and now oil soaked
> sand or mud pack, the oil will wash out with it and make a really bad
> environmental mess in the driveway and out in the street where it drains
> every weekend. The government around here would freak on you and yes,
> the neighbors 'would' call to complain.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
#135
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Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
We cross water and bog a lot, no one would want to leave an oil slick
behind them, they wouldn't be welcome long....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
jeff wrote:
> They still "oil" cars up here in New Hampshire. By law they use a clean
> straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
> fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
> to high heaven.
behind them, they wouldn't be welcome long....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
jeff wrote:
> They still "oil" cars up here in New Hampshire. By law they use a clean
> straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
> fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
> to high heaven.
#136
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Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
We cross water and bog a lot, no one would want to leave an oil slick
behind them, they wouldn't be welcome long....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
jeff wrote:
> They still "oil" cars up here in New Hampshire. By law they use a clean
> straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
> fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
> to high heaven.
behind them, they wouldn't be welcome long....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
jeff wrote:
> They still "oil" cars up here in New Hampshire. By law they use a clean
> straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
> fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
> to high heaven.
#137
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Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
We cross water and bog a lot, no one would want to leave an oil slick
behind them, they wouldn't be welcome long....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
jeff wrote:
> They still "oil" cars up here in New Hampshire. By law they use a clean
> straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
> fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
> to high heaven.
behind them, they wouldn't be welcome long....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
jeff wrote:
> They still "oil" cars up here in New Hampshire. By law they use a clean
> straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
> fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
> to high heaven.
#138
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Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
We cross water and bog a lot, no one would want to leave an oil slick
behind them, they wouldn't be welcome long....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
jeff wrote:
> They still "oil" cars up here in New Hampshire. By law they use a clean
> straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
> fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
> to high heaven.
behind them, they wouldn't be welcome long....
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
jeff wrote:
> They still "oil" cars up here in New Hampshire. By law they use a clean
> straight 30 weight non-detergent oil. There is getting to be fewer and
> fewer places that do oil undercoat. Gear oil was never used as it stinks
> to high heaven.
#139
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Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
Mike, is that 'rust converter' a brand name or a description? Is it a
paintable finish, or is it a semi-permanent finish?
Merrill
On Apr 17, 1:41 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I also stripped the old frame down and put a coat of that 'rust
> converter' stuff on it with a rubberized overcoat to slow down future
> rust. I will have to say it worked seeing as I am still driving her 7-8
> years later.
paintable finish, or is it a semi-permanent finish?
Merrill
On Apr 17, 1:41 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I also stripped the old frame down and put a coat of that 'rust
> converter' stuff on it with a rubberized overcoat to slow down future
> rust. I will have to say it worked seeing as I am still driving her 7-8
> years later.
#140
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Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
Mike, is that 'rust converter' a brand name or a description? Is it a
paintable finish, or is it a semi-permanent finish?
Merrill
On Apr 17, 1:41 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I also stripped the old frame down and put a coat of that 'rust
> converter' stuff on it with a rubberized overcoat to slow down future
> rust. I will have to say it worked seeing as I am still driving her 7-8
> years later.
paintable finish, or is it a semi-permanent finish?
Merrill
On Apr 17, 1:41 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I also stripped the old frame down and put a coat of that 'rust
> converter' stuff on it with a rubberized overcoat to slow down future
> rust. I will have to say it worked seeing as I am still driving her 7-8
> years later.