'70 Renegade Help
01-15-2004, 09:23 AM
#31
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Re: '70 Renegade Help
Or post it somewhere and send a link....
I am also fairly good at ID'ing parts.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Can you send me a picture? The only thing I remember that would be
> there is coil resistor.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
> >
> > Anyone out there with a '70 Renegade that can help identify a mystery
> > electrical part mounted on the fire wall?
I am also fairly good at ID'ing parts.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Can you send me a picture? The only thing I remember that would be
> there is coil resistor.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Steve wrote:
> >
> > Anyone out there with a '70 Renegade that can help identify a mystery
> > electrical part mounted on the fire wall?
01-15-2004, 10:24 AM
#32
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Re: '70 Renegade Help
A short list of differences between the Renegade and standard CJs is as
follows.
Rear mounted swing spare tire carrier
15"x8" steel wheels
Electrical amp and oil pressure gauges
Skid plates under the transmission/transfer case and oil pan
Roll bar
I suspect the CJ shown on your website is not a Renegade because of the
holes on the passenger side rear quarter panel left over from the side
mounted spare tire carrier.
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040114235454965-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> On 14 Jan 2004 09:01 PM, Steve posted the following:
> > Bill,
> > The factory parts manual shows an engine wiring harness specifically
> > for the Renegade, which is different than other CJ models with a V6
> > engine. I'm assuming that the difference is attributed to the mystery
> > electrical part. In other words, the wiring on the '70 Renegade is the
> > same as the diagram shown in your link except for the addition of the
> > mystery part. Yes, I believe Kaiser did use the wiring grommet to
> > bolt on an extra resistor. If it was only on one Renegade, I might
> > agree with your assertion but the same setup was found on two others.
>
> Here is a related question: In general, what were the other differences
> between the Renegade and the standard '70 V-6 CJ? My reason for asking
> is my '70 CJ V-6 has been repainted *at least* once so any trim
> associated with the renegade model would be long gone. It has a steel
> hardtop with full doors, but I have no idea whether those were original
> and interestingly enough, the fenders are the earlier style without any
> side marker lights (I thought the fender mounted side markers were
> standard by then). The side markers are on the hood of all places.
> That may or may not be the original hood/fenders.
>
> The reason I am curious is because if it were a special model or edition
> like that it might affect my plans for the Jeep. I would be way more
> likely to restore it to its original configuration than if it were just
> a standard dime-a-dozen CJ-5.
>
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/jeeps/70cj5.html
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
follows.
Rear mounted swing spare tire carrier
15"x8" steel wheels
Electrical amp and oil pressure gauges
Skid plates under the transmission/transfer case and oil pan
Roll bar
I suspect the CJ shown on your website is not a Renegade because of the
holes on the passenger side rear quarter panel left over from the side
mounted spare tire carrier.
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040114235454965-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> On 14 Jan 2004 09:01 PM, Steve posted the following:
> > Bill,
> > The factory parts manual shows an engine wiring harness specifically
> > for the Renegade, which is different than other CJ models with a V6
> > engine. I'm assuming that the difference is attributed to the mystery
> > electrical part. In other words, the wiring on the '70 Renegade is the
> > same as the diagram shown in your link except for the addition of the
> > mystery part. Yes, I believe Kaiser did use the wiring grommet to
> > bolt on an extra resistor. If it was only on one Renegade, I might
> > agree with your assertion but the same setup was found on two others.
>
> Here is a related question: In general, what were the other differences
> between the Renegade and the standard '70 V-6 CJ? My reason for asking
> is my '70 CJ V-6 has been repainted *at least* once so any trim
> associated with the renegade model would be long gone. It has a steel
> hardtop with full doors, but I have no idea whether those were original
> and interestingly enough, the fenders are the earlier style without any
> side marker lights (I thought the fender mounted side markers were
> standard by then). The side markers are on the hood of all places.
> That may or may not be the original hood/fenders.
>
> The reason I am curious is because if it were a special model or edition
> like that it might affect my plans for the Jeep. I would be way more
> likely to restore it to its original configuration than if it were just
> a standard dime-a-dozen CJ-5.
>
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/jeeps/70cj5.html
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
01-15-2004, 10:24 AM
#33
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Re: '70 Renegade Help
A short list of differences between the Renegade and standard CJs is as
follows.
Rear mounted swing spare tire carrier
15"x8" steel wheels
Electrical amp and oil pressure gauges
Skid plates under the transmission/transfer case and oil pan
Roll bar
I suspect the CJ shown on your website is not a Renegade because of the
holes on the passenger side rear quarter panel left over from the side
mounted spare tire carrier.
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040114235454965-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> On 14 Jan 2004 09:01 PM, Steve posted the following:
> > Bill,
> > The factory parts manual shows an engine wiring harness specifically
> > for the Renegade, which is different than other CJ models with a V6
> > engine. I'm assuming that the difference is attributed to the mystery
> > electrical part. In other words, the wiring on the '70 Renegade is the
> > same as the diagram shown in your link except for the addition of the
> > mystery part. Yes, I believe Kaiser did use the wiring grommet to
> > bolt on an extra resistor. If it was only on one Renegade, I might
> > agree with your assertion but the same setup was found on two others.
>
> Here is a related question: In general, what were the other differences
> between the Renegade and the standard '70 V-6 CJ? My reason for asking
> is my '70 CJ V-6 has been repainted *at least* once so any trim
> associated with the renegade model would be long gone. It has a steel
> hardtop with full doors, but I have no idea whether those were original
> and interestingly enough, the fenders are the earlier style without any
> side marker lights (I thought the fender mounted side markers were
> standard by then). The side markers are on the hood of all places.
> That may or may not be the original hood/fenders.
>
> The reason I am curious is because if it were a special model or edition
> like that it might affect my plans for the Jeep. I would be way more
> likely to restore it to its original configuration than if it were just
> a standard dime-a-dozen CJ-5.
>
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/jeeps/70cj5.html
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
follows.
Rear mounted swing spare tire carrier
15"x8" steel wheels
Electrical amp and oil pressure gauges
Skid plates under the transmission/transfer case and oil pan
Roll bar
I suspect the CJ shown on your website is not a Renegade because of the
holes on the passenger side rear quarter panel left over from the side
mounted spare tire carrier.
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040114235454965-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> On 14 Jan 2004 09:01 PM, Steve posted the following:
> > Bill,
> > The factory parts manual shows an engine wiring harness specifically
> > for the Renegade, which is different than other CJ models with a V6
> > engine. I'm assuming that the difference is attributed to the mystery
> > electrical part. In other words, the wiring on the '70 Renegade is the
> > same as the diagram shown in your link except for the addition of the
> > mystery part. Yes, I believe Kaiser did use the wiring grommet to
> > bolt on an extra resistor. If it was only on one Renegade, I might
> > agree with your assertion but the same setup was found on two others.
>
> Here is a related question: In general, what were the other differences
> between the Renegade and the standard '70 V-6 CJ? My reason for asking
> is my '70 CJ V-6 has been repainted *at least* once so any trim
> associated with the renegade model would be long gone. It has a steel
> hardtop with full doors, but I have no idea whether those were original
> and interestingly enough, the fenders are the earlier style without any
> side marker lights (I thought the fender mounted side markers were
> standard by then). The side markers are on the hood of all places.
> That may or may not be the original hood/fenders.
>
> The reason I am curious is because if it were a special model or edition
> like that it might affect my plans for the Jeep. I would be way more
> likely to restore it to its original configuration than if it were just
> a standard dime-a-dozen CJ-5.
>
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/jeeps/70cj5.html
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
01-15-2004, 10:24 AM
#34
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Re: '70 Renegade Help
A short list of differences between the Renegade and standard CJs is as
follows.
Rear mounted swing spare tire carrier
15"x8" steel wheels
Electrical amp and oil pressure gauges
Skid plates under the transmission/transfer case and oil pan
Roll bar
I suspect the CJ shown on your website is not a Renegade because of the
holes on the passenger side rear quarter panel left over from the side
mounted spare tire carrier.
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040114235454965-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> On 14 Jan 2004 09:01 PM, Steve posted the following:
> > Bill,
> > The factory parts manual shows an engine wiring harness specifically
> > for the Renegade, which is different than other CJ models with a V6
> > engine. I'm assuming that the difference is attributed to the mystery
> > electrical part. In other words, the wiring on the '70 Renegade is the
> > same as the diagram shown in your link except for the addition of the
> > mystery part. Yes, I believe Kaiser did use the wiring grommet to
> > bolt on an extra resistor. If it was only on one Renegade, I might
> > agree with your assertion but the same setup was found on two others.
>
> Here is a related question: In general, what were the other differences
> between the Renegade and the standard '70 V-6 CJ? My reason for asking
> is my '70 CJ V-6 has been repainted *at least* once so any trim
> associated with the renegade model would be long gone. It has a steel
> hardtop with full doors, but I have no idea whether those were original
> and interestingly enough, the fenders are the earlier style without any
> side marker lights (I thought the fender mounted side markers were
> standard by then). The side markers are on the hood of all places.
> That may or may not be the original hood/fenders.
>
> The reason I am curious is because if it were a special model or edition
> like that it might affect my plans for the Jeep. I would be way more
> likely to restore it to its original configuration than if it were just
> a standard dime-a-dozen CJ-5.
>
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/jeeps/70cj5.html
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
follows.
Rear mounted swing spare tire carrier
15"x8" steel wheels
Electrical amp and oil pressure gauges
Skid plates under the transmission/transfer case and oil pan
Roll bar
I suspect the CJ shown on your website is not a Renegade because of the
holes on the passenger side rear quarter panel left over from the side
mounted spare tire carrier.
"Del Rawlins" <del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org> wrote in message
news:20040114235454965-0900@news.newsguy.com...
> On 14 Jan 2004 09:01 PM, Steve posted the following:
> > Bill,
> > The factory parts manual shows an engine wiring harness specifically
> > for the Renegade, which is different than other CJ models with a V6
> > engine. I'm assuming that the difference is attributed to the mystery
> > electrical part. In other words, the wiring on the '70 Renegade is the
> > same as the diagram shown in your link except for the addition of the
> > mystery part. Yes, I believe Kaiser did use the wiring grommet to
> > bolt on an extra resistor. If it was only on one Renegade, I might
> > agree with your assertion but the same setup was found on two others.
>
> Here is a related question: In general, what were the other differences
> between the Renegade and the standard '70 V-6 CJ? My reason for asking
> is my '70 CJ V-6 has been repainted *at least* once so any trim
> associated with the renegade model would be long gone. It has a steel
> hardtop with full doors, but I have no idea whether those were original
> and interestingly enough, the fenders are the earlier style without any
> side marker lights (I thought the fender mounted side markers were
> standard by then). The side markers are on the hood of all places.
> That may or may not be the original hood/fenders.
>
> The reason I am curious is because if it were a special model or edition
> like that it might affect my plans for the Jeep. I would be way more
> likely to restore it to its original configuration than if it were just
> a standard dime-a-dozen CJ-5.
>
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/jeeps/70cj5.html
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Del Rawlins- del@_kills_spammers_rawlinsbrothers.org
> Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email.
> Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website:
> http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/
01-15-2004, 10:28 AM
#35
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Re: '70 Renegade Help
I have no way (or don't know how) of posting the picture anywhere. I sent a
picture to Bill ------. Maybe he would be kind enough to post it for me.
I'll also email you the same picture.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4006A251.B1AB7E6B@sympatico.ca...
> Or post it somewhere and send a link....
>
> I am also fairly good at ID'ing parts.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Can you send me a picture? The only thing I remember that would be
> > there is coil resistor.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone out there with a '70 Renegade that can help identify a mystery
> > > electrical part mounted on the fire wall?
picture to Bill ------. Maybe he would be kind enough to post it for me.
I'll also email you the same picture.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4006A251.B1AB7E6B@sympatico.ca...
> Or post it somewhere and send a link....
>
> I am also fairly good at ID'ing parts.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Can you send me a picture? The only thing I remember that would be
> > there is coil resistor.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone out there with a '70 Renegade that can help identify a mystery
> > > electrical part mounted on the fire wall?
01-15-2004, 10:28 AM
#36
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Re: '70 Renegade Help
I have no way (or don't know how) of posting the picture anywhere. I sent a
picture to Bill ------. Maybe he would be kind enough to post it for me.
I'll also email you the same picture.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4006A251.B1AB7E6B@sympatico.ca...
> Or post it somewhere and send a link....
>
> I am also fairly good at ID'ing parts.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Can you send me a picture? The only thing I remember that would be
> > there is coil resistor.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone out there with a '70 Renegade that can help identify a mystery
> > > electrical part mounted on the fire wall?
picture to Bill ------. Maybe he would be kind enough to post it for me.
I'll also email you the same picture.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4006A251.B1AB7E6B@sympatico.ca...
> Or post it somewhere and send a link....
>
> I am also fairly good at ID'ing parts.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Can you send me a picture? The only thing I remember that would be
> > there is coil resistor.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone out there with a '70 Renegade that can help identify a mystery
> > > electrical part mounted on the fire wall?
01-15-2004, 10:28 AM
#37
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Re: '70 Renegade Help
I have no way (or don't know how) of posting the picture anywhere. I sent a
picture to Bill ------. Maybe he would be kind enough to post it for me.
I'll also email you the same picture.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4006A251.B1AB7E6B@sympatico.ca...
> Or post it somewhere and send a link....
>
> I am also fairly good at ID'ing parts.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Can you send me a picture? The only thing I remember that would be
> > there is coil resistor.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone out there with a '70 Renegade that can help identify a mystery
> > > electrical part mounted on the fire wall?
picture to Bill ------. Maybe he would be kind enough to post it for me.
I'll also email you the same picture.
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4006A251.B1AB7E6B@sympatico.ca...
> Or post it somewhere and send a link....
>
> I am also fairly good at ID'ing parts.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> "L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
> >
> > Can you send me a picture? The only thing I remember that would be
> > there is coil resistor.
> > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> > >
> > > Anyone out there with a '70 Renegade that can help identify a mystery
> > > electrical part mounted on the fire wall?
01-15-2004, 10:52 AM
#38
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Re: '70 Renegade Help
http://www.----------.com/SteveCoilResistor.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Or post it somewhere and send a link....
>
> I am also fairly good at ID'ing parts.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Or post it somewhere and send a link....
>
> I am also fairly good at ID'ing parts.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
01-15-2004, 10:52 AM
#39
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Posts: n/a
Re: '70 Renegade Help
http://www.----------.com/SteveCoilResistor.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Or post it somewhere and send a link....
>
> I am also fairly good at ID'ing parts.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Or post it somewhere and send a link....
>
> I am also fairly good at ID'ing parts.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
01-15-2004, 10:52 AM
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: '70 Renegade Help
http://www.----------.com/SteveCoilResistor.jpg
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Or post it somewhere and send a link....
>
> I am also fairly good at ID'ing parts.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------
Mike Romain wrote:
>
> Or post it somewhere and send a link....
>
> I am also fairly good at ID'ing parts.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's