Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 14:19:28 -0500, "Cathy F."
<clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:

>
>"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:flqjmt.2oc.1@news.evilcabal.org...

>> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
>> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
>> body starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
>> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking. It's
>> a horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>>
>> *shudder*
>
>I wish I hadn't read this...
>
>Cathy
>

Of course it is true, you read it on Usenet! BTW, Cathy, I've a bridge
for sale... And it won't sit up and scream, either.

Sure it sits up and move around, just like that BigMac you had today
for lunch moo'ed several times on the grill. Yea, that is right, that
cow actaully tried to get off the grill several times. That's nothing
you should see what happens at KFC! Those chicken parts running
around, trying to get out, madness, I tell you, madness.

See, and this is all true, because it is on the Internet. Absolutely
true. Dear Allat, I swear it. True. Really. Honest.

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

Jeff Strickland wrote:

> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they were
> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>
> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>
> Way cool!
>
> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...

Oh, if only the restraining order didn't prevent me from seeing that
exhibit again.

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"PeterD"
"Cathy F."
wrote:
>
>>
>>"Wickeddoll" ...
>
>>> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
>>> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
>>> body starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
>>> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking.
>>> It's
>>> a horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>>>
>>> *shudder*
>>
>>I wish I hadn't read this...
>>
>>Cathy
>>
>
> Of course it is true, you read it on Usenet! BTW, Cathy, I've a bridge
> for sale... And it won't sit up and scream, either.
>
> Sure it sits up and move around, just like that BigMac you had today
> for lunch moo'ed several times on the grill. Yea, that is right, that
> cow actaully tried to get off the grill several times. That's nothing
> you should see what happens at KFC! Those chicken parts running
> around, trying to get out, madness, I tell you, madness.
>
> See, and this is all true, because it is on the Internet. Absolutely
> true. Dear Allat, I swear it. True. Really. Honest.

You have a differing view? Post your experience.

If you have no proof against it, I suggest you STFU.

Natalie

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

On 2008-01-06 16:13:19 -0800, "Wickeddoll"
<wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> said:

>
> "PeterD"
> "Cathy F."
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Wickeddoll" ...
>>
>>>> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
>>>> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
>>>> body starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
>>>> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking.
>>>> It's
>>>> a horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>>>>
>>>> *shudder*
>>>
>>> I wish I hadn't read this...
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>>
>>
>> Of course it is true, you read it on Usenet! BTW, Cathy, I've a bridge
>> for sale... And it won't sit up and scream, either.
>>
>> Sure it sits up and move around, just like that BigMac you had today
>> for lunch moo'ed several times on the grill. Yea, that is right, that
>> cow actaully tried to get off the grill several times. That's nothing
>> you should see what happens at KFC! Those chicken parts running
>> around, trying to get out, madness, I tell you, madness.
>>
>> See, and this is all true, because it is on the Internet. Absolutely
>> true. Dear Allat, I swear it. True. Really. Honest.
>
> You have a differing view? Post your experience.
>
> If you have no proof against it, I suggest you STFU.

In case you missed it, Peter, you just got schooled.

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

In article <flr4ta.2a4.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "dbu'" ...
> > "Wickeddoll" wrote:
> >
> >> "Dave L"
> >> > "Wickeddoll" ...
> >> >>
> >> >> "dbu'"
> >> >>>> >> "Dave L" <...
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
> >> >>>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
> >> >>>> >> >> they
> >> >>>> >> >> were
> >> >>>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> Way cool!
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
> >> >>>> >> > drove
> >> >>>> >> > up
> >> >>>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf
> >> >>>> >> > had
> >> >>>> >> > no
> >> >>>> >> > desire to go with him!).
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> > -Dave
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they
> >> >>>> >> did
> >> >>>> >> that,
> >> >>>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
> >> >>>> >> them
> >> >>>> >> all.
> >> >>>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> :-)
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Natalie
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
> >> >>>> > --
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
> >> >>>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
> >> >>>> that, I
> >> >>>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
> >> >>>> happens
> >> >>>> to their own remains.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Natalie
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to
> >> >>> me.
> >> >>> --
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
> >> >> exhibit,
> >> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
> >> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
> >> >> and
> >> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
> >> >>
> >> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
> >> >> that these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
> >> >> people should probably skip it. I thought everything they did was
> >> >> very
> >> >> respectful of the displays.
> >> >>
> >> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
> >> >> healthy
> >> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in
> >> >> which
> >> >> you can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there!
> >> >> LOL Who knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free,
> >> >> but
> >> >> at least it got their attention.
> >> >>
> >> >> :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Natalie
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, I thought the displays of a smoker's lungs vs. healthy lungs
> >> > would
> >> > have grabbed some attention. It was amazing on the "how" they did
> >> > that.
> >> > At least it didn't smell like formaldehyde (from what I remember). I
> >> > remember taking a look in one of my brother's college classes - a room
> >> > of
> >> > cadavers being examined and dissected. Came out of there still
> >> > smelling
> >> > the formaldehyde...
> >> >
> >> > -Dave
> >> >
> >>
> >> Gawd, autopsies used to gross me out - not because of the sights, but the
> >> sounds.
> >>
> >> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
> >> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
> >> body
> >> starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
> >> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking.
> >> It's a
> >> horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
> >>
> >> *shudder*
> >>
> >> Natalie
> >
> > You're kidding of course?? How could the nervous system still be alive
> > after many hours or a couple of days?
>
> They're never really "dead" so to speak. They're electrical conductors,
> like wires. I don't know if it's heat/friction that causes it, or what.
> Haven't you heard of postmortem movement in a corpse? Happens all the time.
>
> Natalie

But no more than what it takes for rigor mortis to set in. A few hours
at most.
--
"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

Hillary Clinton

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

On 2008-01-06 17:02:46 -0800, dbu' <nospam@nospam.moc> said:

>>> You're kidding of course?? How could the nervous system still be alive
>>> after many hours or a couple of days?
>>
>> They're never really "dead" so to speak. They're electrical conductors,
>> like wires. I don't know if it's heat/friction that causes it, or what.
>> Haven't you heard of postmortem movement in a corpse? Happens all the time.
>>
>> Natalie
>
> But no more than what it takes for rigor mortis to set in. A few hours
> at most.

Rigor is not permanent. It goes away after three or four days.

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

In article <xPCdnfh_J_9i_xzaRVn_vwA@giganews.com>,
"Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:

> "dbu'" <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
> news:nospam-519682.15041506012008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <rJadnaGCJoCvtxza4p2dnAA@giganews.com>,
> > "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "dbu'" <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
> >> news:nospam-626BC2.04405706012008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >> > In article <flon1o.2q0.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
> >> > "Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "dbu'"
> >> >> > "Wickeddoll" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Dave L" <...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
> >> >> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
> >> >> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> >> >> were
> >> >> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Way cool!
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when
> >> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> >> > drove
> >> >> >> >> > up
> >> >> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf
> >> >> >> >> > had
> >> >> >> >> > no
> >> >> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > -Dave
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they
> >> >> >> >> did
> >> >> >> >> that,
> >> >> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
> >> >> >> >> them
> >> >> >> >> all.
> >> >> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> :-)
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Natalie
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
> >> >> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something
> >> >> >> like
> >> >> >> that, I
> >> >> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
> >> >> >> happens
> >> >> >> to their own remains.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Natalie
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to
> >> >> > me.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
> >> >> exhibit,
> >> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
> >> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
> >> >> and
> >> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
> >> >>
> >> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
> >> >> that
> >> >> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive people
> >> >> should
> >> >> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very respectful
> >> >> of
> >> >> the
> >> >> displays.
> >> >>
> >> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
> >> >> healthy
> >> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in
> >> >> which
> >> >> you
> >> >> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there! LOL
> >> >> Who
> >> >> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at
> >> >> least
> >> >> it
> >> >> got their attention.
> >> >>
> >> >> :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Natalie
> >> >
> >> > I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
> >>
> >> I would *like* see it - on an interesting, intellectual plane. But don't
> >> think my involuntary reaction(s) - which reside on another plane - would
> >> allow me to.
> >>
> >> Cathy
> >
> > It's a sort of macabre form of entertainment for many. Not me.
>
> No, I don't think it's even supposed to be a form of entertainment. More
> like acquisition of knowledge; a better understanding of our own bodies.
> Granted, learning about a topic can be entertaining (as in interesting), but
> not in the same way you're using ther term, is my guess. We're not
> approaching this from the same angle, that's pretty obvious.
>
> Cathy

Most who view this so called exhibit don't view it the same as you, from
a purely scientific state of mind I would guess. It is a Saturday
afternoon entertainment.
--
"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

Hillary Clinton

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"witfal"
"Wickeddoll"
said:
>
>>
>> "PeterD"
>> "Cathy F."
>> wrote:
>>>>> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
>>>>> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
>>>>> body starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're
>>>>> dead)
>>>>> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking.
>>>>> It's
>>>>> a horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>>>>>
>>>>> *shudder*
>>>>
>>>> I wish I hadn't read this...
>>>>
>>>> Cathy
>>>>
>>>
>>> Of course it is true, you read it on Usenet! BTW, Cathy, I've a bridge
>>> for sale... And it won't sit up and scream, either.
>>>
>>> Sure it sits up and move around, just like that BigMac you had today
>>> for lunch moo'ed several times on the grill. Yea, that is right, that
>>> cow actaully tried to get off the grill several times. That's nothing
>>> you should see what happens at KFC! Those chicken parts running
>>> around, trying to get out, madness, I tell you, madness.
>>>
>>> See, and this is all true, because it is on the Internet. Absolutely
>>> true. Dear Allat, I swear it. True. Really. Honest.
>>
>> You have a differing view? Post your experience.
>>
>> If you have no proof against it, I suggest you STFU.
>
> In case you missed it, Peter, you just got schooled.
>
I re-read my original post, and realize I didn't mention that this
description of cremation is *second-hand* A pathologist I knew in the 80s
told me about it. If I had seen it myself, I would say so.

I can see how this reaction may happen, but I want to see whether this
individual has some first-hand experience of his own.

The pathologist was a very brilliant and accomplished man - I see no reason
for him to lie about that.

Natalie

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"dbu'",
> "Cathy F."
>,
>> >> > "Wickeddoll"
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> "Dave L" <...
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>> >> >> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go.
>> >> >> >> >> >> If
>> >> >> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> >> >> were
>> >> >> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Way cool!
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep
>> >> >> >> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago
>> >> >> >> >> > when
>> >> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> >> > drove
>> >> >> >> >> > up
>> >> >> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his
>> >> >> >> >> > gf
>> >> >> >> >> > had
>> >> >> >> >> > no
>> >> >> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > -Dave
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how*
>> >> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> >> did
>> >> >> >> >> that,
>> >> >> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've
>> >> >> >> >> seen
>> >> >> >> >> them
>> >> >> >> >> all.
>> >> >> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> :-)
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Natalie
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead
>> >> >> >> > people.
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was
>> >> >> >> from
>> >> >> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something
>> >> >> >> like
>> >> >> >> that, I
>> >> >> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say
>> >> >> >> what
>> >> >> >> happens
>> >> >> >> to their own remains.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Natalie
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > me.
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
>> >> >> exhibit,
>> >> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly
>> >> >> amazing
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing
>> >> >> us
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
>> >> >> people
>> >> >> should
>> >> >> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very
>> >> >> respectful
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> displays.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>> >> >> healthy
>> >> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in
>> >> >> which
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there!
>> >> >> LOL
>> >> >> Who
>> >> >> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at
>> >> >> least
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> got their attention.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> :-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Natalie
>> >> >
>> >> > I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
>> >>
>> >> I would *like* see it - on an interesting, intellectual plane. But
>> >> don't
>> >> think my involuntary reaction(s) - which reside on another plane -
>> >> would
>> >> allow me to.
>> >>
>> >> Cathy
>> >
>> > It's a sort of macabre form of entertainment for many. Not me.
>>
>> No, I don't think it's even supposed to be a form of entertainment. More
>> like acquisition of knowledge; a better understanding of our own bodies.
>> Granted, learning about a topic can be entertaining (as in interesting),
>> but
>> not in the same way you're using ther term, is my guess. We're not
>> approaching this from the same angle, that's pretty obvious.
>>
>> Cathy
>
> Most who view this so called exhibit don't view it the same as you, from
> a purely scientific state of mind I would guess. It is a Saturday
> afternoon entertainment.

Um, it's not "so-called" - it really is an exhibit. Not sure why you'd say
it wasn't. I mean, a horrible car accident is on display as well, but that
would draw curious, maybe even ghoulish spectators.

Having said that, the folks I saw seemed to be in awe, rather than morbidly
curious, but since I can't read minds, I can't be sure.

:-)

Natalie

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:flr4va.1d8.1@news.evilcabal.org...
>
> "Cathy F." ...
>>
>> "dbu'"
>>>> > "Wickeddoll"
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> "Dave L" <...
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>>>> >> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go.
>>>> >> >> >> >> If
>>>> >> >> >> >> they
>>>> >> >> >> >> were
>>>> >> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> Way cool!
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago
>>>> >> >> >> > when I
>>>> >> >> >> > drove
>>>> >> >> >> > up
>>>> >> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his
>>>> >> >> >> > gf had
>>>> >> >> >> > no
>>>> >> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > -Dave
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how*
>>>> >> >> >> they did
>>>> >> >> >> that,
>>>> >> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've
>>>> >> >> >> seen
>>>> >> >> >> them
>>>> >> >> >> all.
>>>> >> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> :-)
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Natalie
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead
>>>> >> >> > people.
>>>> >> >> > --
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was
>>>> >> >> from
>>>> >> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something
>>>> >> >> like
>>>> >> >> that, I
>>>> >> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say
>>>> >> >> what
>>>> >> >> happens
>>>> >> >> to their own remains.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Natalie
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to
>>>> >> > me.
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
>>>> >> exhibit,
>>>> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies
>>>> >> for
>>>> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing
>>>> >> us
>>>> >> that
>>>> >> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
>>>> >> people
>>>> >> should
>>>> >> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very respectful
>>>> >> of
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> displays.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>>>> >> healthy
>>>> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in
>>>> >> which
>>>> >> you
>>>> >> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there!
>>>> >> LOL
>>>> >> Who
>>>> >> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at
>>>> >> least
>>>> >> it
>>>> >> got their attention.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> :-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Natalie
>>>> >
>>>> > I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
>>>>
>>>> I would *like* see it - on an interesting, intellectual plane. But
>>>> don't
>>>> think my involuntary reaction(s) - which reside on another plane -
>>>> would
>>>> allow me to.
>>>>
>>>> Cathy
>>>
>>> It's a sort of macabre form of entertainment for many. Not me.
>>
>> No, I don't think it's even supposed to be a form of entertainment. More
>> like acquisition of knowledge; a better understanding of our own bodies.
>> Granted, learning about a topic can be entertaining (as in interesting),
>> but not in the same way you're using ther term, is my guess. We're not
>> approaching this from the same angle, that's pretty obvious.
>>
>> Cathy
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> Absolutely - there was nothing "entertaining" about it. I saw it as an
> educational experience. Science at its most fascinating, IMO.

Yes, you've expressed what I was trying to say - only you did it better.

Cathy
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> Natalie
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