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Jeff Strickland 01-04-2008 09:41 PM

{{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they were
holding it longer in my area, I would go again.

http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/

Way cool!

I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...


DougW 01-04-2008 09:54 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
Jeff Strickland wrote:
> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they were
> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>
> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>
> Way cool!
>
> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...


They had those at the local science museum.

see also bodyworlds.com
Gunther von Hagens is the "arteeeest" behind the process behind the bodies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunther_von_Hagens

--
DougW



Jeff Strickland 01-04-2008 10:00 PM

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"DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
news:WjCfj.7877$DR7.3984@newsfe07.phx...
>
> They had those at the local science museum.
>
> see also bodyworlds.com
> Gunther von Hagens is the "arteeeest" behind the process behind the
> bodies.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunther_von_Hagens
>



Yeah, the same thing. Have you gone to one?






DougW 01-04-2008 10:08 PM

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Jeff Strickland wrote:
> "DougW" <I.only.read.usenet@invalid.address> wrote in message
> news:WjCfj.7877$DR7.3984@newsfe07.phx...
>>
>> They had those at the local science museum.
>>
>> see also bodyworlds.com
>> Gunther von Hagens is the "arteeeest" behind the process behind the
>> bodies.
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunther_von_Hagens
>>

>
>
> Yeah, the same thing. Have you gone to one?


Yep, went to one four years ago Frankfurt Germany.
They had the horse and rider and I must have spent
half a day just looking at that alone .... before
going out for dinner. :)

--
DougW



Dave L 01-05-2008 12:09 AM

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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:J7Cfj.85$Z61.63@trnddc07...
> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they were
> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>
> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>
> Way cool!
>
> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...



Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I drove up
there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had no desire
to go with him!).

-Dave



badgolferman 01-05-2008 08:22 AM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
Jeff Strickland, 1/4/2008,9:41:45 PM, wrote:

> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they
> were holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>
> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>
> Way cool!
>
> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...


I've got a problem with messing with dead people. I realize these
people probably donated their bodies to science but it just seems wrong
to me to desecrate them in public view.

When the guy who was operating a funeral home was caught dumping bodies
in his back yard instead of cremating them that really set me on edge.
They should have broken his arms and legs and buried him alive under a
mountain of corpses.

--
"Why hate someone for the color of their skin when there are much
better reasons to hate them." ~ Denis Leary

EdV 01-05-2008 10:10 AM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
On Jan 5, 8:22 am, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> I've got a problem with messing with dead people. I realize these
> people probably donated their bodies to science but it just seems wrong
> to me to desecrate them in public view.
>


I wonder how you feel about ---- =)



Jeff Strickland 01-05-2008 10:23 AM

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"EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:73a3d66a-a8c1-4aa3-a719-054ec1a0743b@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 5, 8:22 am, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I've got a problem with messing with dead people. I realize these
>> people probably donated their bodies to science but it just seems wrong
>> to me to desecrate them in public view.
>>

>
> I wonder how you feel about ---- =)
>
>


I'm sure that ---- wsith a dead body seems wrong to him also ...




EdV 01-05-2008 10:38 AM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
On Jan 5, 10:23 am, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:73a3d66a-a8c1-4aa3-a719-054ec1a0743b@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Jan 5, 8:22 am, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:

>
> >> I've got a problem with messing with dead people. I realize these
> >> people probably donated their bodies to science but it just seems wrong
> >> to me to desecrate them in public view.

>
> > I wonder how you feel about ---- =)

>
> I'm sure that ---- wsith a dead body seems wrong to him also ...


hehehehe... The only dead person in ---- was the one I saw with Snow
White who was brought to life by the Prince Charming.

F.H. 01-05-2008 10:40 AM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
badgolferman wrote:

> I've got a problem with messing with dead people. I realize these
> people probably donated their bodies to science but it just seems wrong
> to me to desecrate them in public view.
>
> When the guy who was operating a funeral home was caught dumping bodies
> in his back yard instead of cremating them that really set me on edge.
> They should have broken his arms and legs and buried him alive under a
> mountain of corpses.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiFOU...eature=related

Wickeddoll 01-05-2008 02:19 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"Dave L" <...
>
> "Jeff Strickland" ...
>> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they were
>> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>>
>> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>>
>> Way cool!
>>
>> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...

>
>
> Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I drove up
> there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had no
> desire to go with him!).
>
> -Dave
>


As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did that,
rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen them all.
I bought some souvenir stuff there.

:-)

Natalie



mack 01-05-2008 03:59 PM

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"EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:70c59eb7-0e22-47c2-811a-325d0fcb69bf@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 5, 10:23 am, "Jeff Strickland" <cr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:73a3d66a-a8c1-4aa3-a719-054ec1a0743b@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Jan 5, 8:22 am, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:

>>
>> >> I've got a problem with messing with dead people. I realize these
>> >> people probably donated their bodies to science but it just seems
>> >> wrong
>> >> to me to desecrate them in public view.

>>
>> > I wonder how you feel about ---- =)

>>
>> I'm sure that ---- wsith a dead body seems wrong to him also ...

>
> hehehehe... The only dead person in ---- was the one I saw with Snow
> White who was brought to life by the Prince Charming.


and then what happened? She brought him to life?



dbu' 01-05-2008 04:27 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
In article <flo05t.218.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Dave L" <...
> >
> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they were
> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
> >>
> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
> >>
> >> Way cool!
> >>
> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...

> >
> >
> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I drove up
> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had no
> > desire to go with him!).
> >
> > -Dave
> >

>
> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did that,
> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen them all.
> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>
> :-)
>
> Natalie


I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
--


Wickeddoll 01-05-2008 06:47 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"dbu'" ,
> "Wickeddoll" wrote:
>
>> "Dave L" <...
>> >
>> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they were
>> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>> >>
>> >> Way cool!
>> >>
>> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>> >
>> >
>> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I drove
>> > up
>> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had no
>> > desire to go with him!).
>> >
>> > -Dave
>> >

>>
>> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did that,
>> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen them
>> all.
>> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Natalie

>
> I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
> --
>


Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
*volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like that, I
would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what happens
to their own remains.

Natalie



dbu' 01-05-2008 08:26 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
In article <flofre.1a0.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "dbu'" ,
> > "Wickeddoll" wrote:
> >
> >> "Dave L" <...
> >> >
> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they were
> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
> >> >>
> >> >> Way cool!
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I drove
> >> > up
> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had no
> >> > desire to go with him!).
> >> >
> >> > -Dave
> >> >
> >>
> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did that,
> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen them
> >> all.
> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Natalie

> >
> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
> > --
> >

>
> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like that, I
> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what happens
> to their own remains.
>
> Natalie


Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
--


Wickeddoll 01-05-2008 08:50 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"dbu'"
> "Wickeddoll" wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Dave L" <...
>> >> >
>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they
>> >> >> were
>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Way cool!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
>> >> > drove
>> >> > up
>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had no
>> >> > desire to go with him!).
>> >> >
>> >> > -Dave
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did
>> >> that,
>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen them
>> >> all.
>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>> >>
>> >> :-)
>> >>
>> >> Natalie
>> >
>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>> > --
>> >

>>
>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
>> that, I
>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>> happens
>> to their own remains.
>>
>> Natalie

>
> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
> --
>


Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the exhibit,
when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.

It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing and
practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.

They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us that
these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive people should
probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very respectful of the
displays.

In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows healthy
lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in which you
can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there! LOL Who
knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at least it
got their attention.

:-)

Natalie



Dave L 01-05-2008 11:23 PM

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"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:flon1o.2q0.1@news.evilcabal.org...
>
> "dbu'"
>> "Wickeddoll" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> "Dave L" <...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they
>>> >> >> were
>>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Way cool!
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
>>> >> > drove
>>> >> > up
>>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had
>>> >> > no
>>> >> > desire to go with him!).
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -Dave
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did
>>> >> that,
>>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen them
>>> >> all.
>>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>>> >>
>>> >> :-)
>>> >>
>>> >> Natalie
>>> >
>>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>>> > --
>>> >
>>>
>>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
>>> that, I
>>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>>> happens
>>> to their own remains.
>>>
>>> Natalie

>>
>> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
>> --
>>

>
> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the exhibit,
> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>
> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing and
> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>
> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us that
> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive people
> should probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very
> respectful of the displays.
>
> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows healthy
> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in which
> you can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there! LOL
> Who knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at
> least it got their attention.
>
> :-)
>
> Natalie


Yeah, I thought the displays of a smoker's lungs vs. healthy lungs would
have grabbed some attention. It was amazing on the "how" they did that. At
least it didn't smell like formaldehyde (from what I remember). I remember
taking a look in one of my brother's college classes - a room of cadavers
being examined and dissected. Came out of there still smelling the
formaldehyde...

-Dave



dbu' 01-06-2008 05:40 AM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
In article <flon1o.2q0.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "dbu'"
> > "Wickeddoll" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Dave L" <...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they
> >> >> >> were
> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Way cool!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
> >> >> > drove
> >> >> > up
> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had no
> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -Dave
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did
> >> >> that,
> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen them
> >> >> all.
> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
> >> >>
> >> >> :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Natalie
> >> >
> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
> >> > --
> >> >
> >>
> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
> >> that, I
> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
> >> happens
> >> to their own remains.
> >>
> >> Natalie

> >
> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
> > --
> >

>
> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the exhibit,
> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>
> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing and
> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>
> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us that
> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive people should
> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very respectful of the
> displays.
>
> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows healthy
> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in which you
> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there! LOL Who
> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at least it
> got their attention.
>
> :-)
>
> Natalie


I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
--


Wickeddoll 01-06-2008 02:03 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"dbu'" <
> "Wickeddoll" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Dave L" <...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> were
>> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Way cool!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
>> >> >> > drove
>> >> >> > up
>> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had
>> >> >> > no
>> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -Dave
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did
>> >> >> that,
>> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
>> >> >> them
>> >> >> all.
>> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> :-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Natalie
>> >> >
>> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
>> >> that, I
>> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>> >> happens
>> >> to their own remains.
>> >>
>> >> Natalie
>> >
>> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
>> > --
>> >

>>
>> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the exhibit,
>> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>>
>> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing and
>> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>>
>> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>> that
>> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive people
>> should
>> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very respectful of
>> the
>> displays.
>>
>> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows healthy
>> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in which
>> you
>> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there! LOL
>> Who
>> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at least
>> it
>> got their attention.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Natalie

>
> I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
> --
>


Oh I never denied that. :-) But I don't think it's totally gratuitous. I
think it was a good educational tool, and a marvel of postmortem technique.

Natalie



Wickeddoll 01-06-2008 02:05 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"Dave L"
> "Wickeddoll" ...
>>
>> "dbu'"
>>>> >> "Dave L" <...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>>>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they
>>>> >> >> were
>>>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Way cool!
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
>>>> >> > drove
>>>> >> > up
>>>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had
>>>> >> > no
>>>> >> > desire to go with him!).
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > -Dave
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did
>>>> >> that,
>>>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
>>>> >> them
>>>> >> all.
>>>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> :-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Natalie
>>>> >
>>>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>>>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
>>>> that, I
>>>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>>>> happens
>>>> to their own remains.
>>>>
>>>> Natalie
>>>
>>> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
>>> --
>>>

>>
>> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the exhibit,
>> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>>
>> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing and
>> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>>
>> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>> that these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
>> people should probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very
>> respectful of the displays.
>>
>> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows healthy
>> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in which
>> you can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there!
>> LOL Who knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but
>> at least it got their attention.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Natalie

>
> Yeah, I thought the displays of a smoker's lungs vs. healthy lungs would
> have grabbed some attention. It was amazing on the "how" they did that.
> At least it didn't smell like formaldehyde (from what I remember). I
> remember taking a look in one of my brother's college classes - a room of
> cadavers being examined and dissected. Came out of there still smelling
> the formaldehyde...
>
> -Dave
>


Gawd, autopsies used to gross me out - not because of the sights, but the
sounds.

This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the body
starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking. It's a
horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!

*shudder*

Natalie



Cathy F. 01-06-2008 02:19 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:flqjmt.2oc.1@news.evilcabal.org...
>
> "Dave L"
>> "Wickeddoll" ...
>>>
>>> "dbu'"
>>>>> >> "Dave L" <...
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>>>>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>>>>> >> >> they were
>>>>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Way cool!
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
>>>>> >> > drove
>>>>> >> > up
>>>>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had
>>>>> >> > no
>>>>> >> > desire to go with him!).
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > -Dave
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did
>>>>> >> that,
>>>>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
>>>>> >> them
>>>>> >> all.
>>>>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> :-)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Natalie
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>>>>> > --
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>>>>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
>>>>> that, I
>>>>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>>>>> happens
>>>>> to their own remains.
>>>>>
>>>>> Natalie
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the exhibit,
>>> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>>>
>>> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>>> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing and
>>> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>>>
>>> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>>> that these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
>>> people should probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very
>>> respectful of the displays.
>>>
>>> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>>> healthy lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box,
>>> in which you can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them
>>> there! LOL Who knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed
>>> smoke-free, but at least it got their attention.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Natalie

>>
>> Yeah, I thought the displays of a smoker's lungs vs. healthy lungs would
>> have grabbed some attention. It was amazing on the "how" they did that.
>> At least it didn't smell like formaldehyde (from what I remember). I
>> remember taking a look in one of my brother's college classes - a room of
>> cadavers being examined and dissected. Came out of there still smelling
>> the formaldehyde...
>>
>> -Dave
>>

>
> Gawd, autopsies used to gross me out - not because of the sights, but the
> sounds.
>
> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
> body starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking. It's
> a horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>
> *shudder*


I wish I hadn't read this...

Cathy

>
> Natalie
>




Cathy F. 01-06-2008 02:21 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"dbu'" <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
news:nospam-626BC2.04405706012008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <flon1o.2q0.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
> "Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "dbu'"
>> > "Wickeddoll" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Dave L" <...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> were
>> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Way cool!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
>> >> >> > drove
>> >> >> > up
>> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had
>> >> >> > no
>> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -Dave
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did
>> >> >> that,
>> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
>> >> >> them
>> >> >> all.
>> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> :-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Natalie
>> >> >
>> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
>> >> that, I
>> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>> >> happens
>> >> to their own remains.
>> >>
>> >> Natalie
>> >
>> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
>> > --
>> >

>>
>> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the exhibit,
>> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>>
>> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing and
>> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>>
>> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>> that
>> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive people
>> should
>> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very respectful of
>> the
>> displays.
>>
>> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows healthy
>> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in which
>> you
>> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there! LOL
>> Who
>> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at least
>> it
>> got their attention.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Natalie

>
> I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.


I would *like* see it - on an interesting, intellectual plane. But don't
think my involuntary reaction(s) - which reside on another plane - would
allow me to.

Cathy




Wickeddoll 01-06-2008 02:25 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"Cathy F." ...
>
> "Wickeddoll" ...
>>
>> "Dave L"
>>>> "dbu'"
>>>>>> >> "Dave L" <...
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>>>>>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>>>>>> >> >> they were
>>>>>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Way cool!
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
>>>>>> >> > drove
>>>>>> >> > up
>>>>>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf
>>>>>> >> > had no
>>>>>> >> > desire to go with him!).
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > -Dave
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they
>>>>>> >> did that,
>>>>>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
>>>>>> >> them
>>>>>> >> all.
>>>>>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> :-)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Natalie
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>>>>>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
>>>>>> that, I
>>>>>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>>>>>> happens
>>>>>> to their own remains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
>>>> exhibit, when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>>>>
>>>> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>>>> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
>>>> and practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>>>>
>>>> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>>>> that these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
>>>> people should probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very
>>>> respectful of the displays.
>>>>
>>>> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>>>> healthy lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box,
>>>> in which you can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them
>>>> there! LOL Who knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed
>>>> smoke-free, but at least it got their attention.
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Natalie
>>>
>>> Yeah, I thought the displays of a smoker's lungs vs. healthy lungs would
>>> have grabbed some attention. It was amazing on the "how" they did that.
>>> At least it didn't smell like formaldehyde (from what I remember). I
>>> remember taking a look in one of my brother's college classes - a room
>>> of cadavers being examined and dissected. Came out of there still
>>> smelling the formaldehyde...
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>

>>
>> Gawd, autopsies used to gross me out - not because of the sights, but the
>> sounds.
>>
>> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
>> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
>> body starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
>> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking.
>> It's a horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>>
>> *shudder*

>
> I wish I hadn't read this...
>
> Cathy


Could be worse - you could have *seen* it.

Natalie



witfal 01-06-2008 02:59 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
On 2008-01-06 11:25:29 -0800, "Wickeddoll"
<wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> said:

>> I wish I hadn't read this...
>>
>> Cathy

>
> Could be worse - you could have *seen* it.


OR dreamt about a relative doing this.


longwank@gmail.com 01-06-2008 03:59 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
are you jeff strickland from north carolina?
like from pondside in carteret?
well if so msg me at myspace

myspace.com/ranoldoe

<a href="myspace.com/ranoldoe">click this</a>

dbu' 01-06-2008 04:04 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
In article <rJadnaGCJoCvtxza4p2dnAA@giganews.com>,
"Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:

> "dbu'" <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
> news:nospam-626BC2.04405706012008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <flon1o.2q0.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
> > "Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "dbu'"
> >> > "Wickeddoll" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Dave L" <...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
> >> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
> >> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> >> were
> >> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Way cool!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
> >> >> >> > drove
> >> >> >> > up
> >> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had
> >> >> >> > no
> >> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > -Dave
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did
> >> >> >> that,
> >> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
> >> >> >> them
> >> >> >> all.
> >> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> :-)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Natalie
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
> >> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
> >> >> that, I
> >> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
> >> >> happens
> >> >> to their own remains.
> >> >>
> >> >> Natalie
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
> >> > --
> >> >
> >>
> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the exhibit,
> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
> >>
> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing and
> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
> >>
> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
> >> that
> >> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive people
> >> should
> >> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very respectful of
> >> the
> >> displays.
> >>
> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows healthy
> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in which
> >> you
> >> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there! LOL
> >> Who
> >> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at least
> >> it
> >> got their attention.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Natalie

> >
> > I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.

>
> I would *like* see it - on an interesting, intellectual plane. But don't
> think my involuntary reaction(s) - which reside on another plane - would
> allow me to.
>
> Cathy


It's a sort of macabre form of entertainment for many. Not me.
--
"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

Hillary Clinton

dbu' 01-06-2008 04:06 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
In article <flqjmt.2oc.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Dave L"
> > "Wickeddoll" ...
> >>
> >> "dbu'"
> >>>> >> "Dave L" <...
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
> >>>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they
> >>>> >> >> were
> >>>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Way cool!
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
> >>>> >> > drove
> >>>> >> > up
> >>>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had
> >>>> >> > no
> >>>> >> > desire to go with him!).
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > -Dave
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did
> >>>> >> that,
> >>>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
> >>>> >> them
> >>>> >> all.
> >>>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> :-)
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Natalie
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
> >>>> > --
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
> >>>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
> >>>> that, I
> >>>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
> >>>> happens
> >>>> to their own remains.
> >>>>
> >>>> Natalie
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>
> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the exhibit,
> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
> >>
> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing and
> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
> >>
> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
> >> that these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
> >> people should probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very
> >> respectful of the displays.
> >>
> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows healthy
> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in which
> >> you can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there!
> >> LOL Who knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but
> >> at least it got their attention.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Natalie

> >
> > Yeah, I thought the displays of a smoker's lungs vs. healthy lungs would
> > have grabbed some attention. It was amazing on the "how" they did that.
> > At least it didn't smell like formaldehyde (from what I remember). I
> > remember taking a look in one of my brother's college classes - a room of
> > cadavers being examined and dissected. Came out of there still smelling
> > the formaldehyde...
> >
> > -Dave
> >

>
> Gawd, autopsies used to gross me out - not because of the sights, but the
> sounds.
>
> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the body
> starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking. It's a
> horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>
> *shudder*
>
> Natalie


You're kidding of course?? How could the nervous system still be alive
after many hours or a couple of days?
--
"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

Hillary Clinton

Cathy F. 01-06-2008 06:23 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"dbu'" <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
news:nospam-519682.15041506012008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <rJadnaGCJoCvtxza4p2dnAA@giganews.com>,
> "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:
>
>> "dbu'" <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
>> news:nospam-626BC2.04405706012008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > In article <flon1o.2q0.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
>> > "Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "dbu'"
>> >> > "Wickeddoll" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> "Dave L" <...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>> >> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>> >> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> >> were
>> >> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Way cool!
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when
>> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> > drove
>> >> >> >> > up
>> >> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf
>> >> >> >> > had
>> >> >> >> > no
>> >> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > -Dave
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they
>> >> >> >> did
>> >> >> >> that,
>> >> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
>> >> >> >> them
>> >> >> >> all.
>> >> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> :-)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Natalie
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>> >> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something
>> >> >> like
>> >> >> that, I
>> >> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>> >> >> happens
>> >> >> to their own remains.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Natalie
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to
>> >> > me.
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
>> >> exhibit,
>> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>> >>
>> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
>> >> and
>> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>> >>
>> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>> >> that
>> >> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive people
>> >> should
>> >> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very respectful
>> >> of
>> >> the
>> >> displays.
>> >>
>> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>> >> healthy
>> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in
>> >> which
>> >> you
>> >> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there! LOL
>> >> Who
>> >> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at
>> >> least
>> >> it
>> >> got their attention.
>> >>
>> >> :-)
>> >>
>> >> Natalie
>> >
>> > I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.

>>
>> I would *like* see it - on an interesting, intellectual plane. But don't
>> think my involuntary reaction(s) - which reside on another plane - would
>> allow me to.
>>
>> Cathy

>
> It's a sort of macabre form of entertainment for many. Not me.


No, I don't think it's even supposed to be a form of entertainment. More
like acquisition of knowledge; a better understanding of our own bodies.
Granted, learning about a topic can be entertaining (as in interesting), but
not in the same way you're using ther term, is my guess. We're not
approaching this from the same angle, that's pretty obvious.

Cathy


> --
> "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
>
> Hillary Clinton




Wickeddoll 01-06-2008 06:58 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"dbu'" ...
> "Wickeddoll" wrote:
>
>> "Dave L"
>> > "Wickeddoll" ...
>> >>
>> >> "dbu'"
>> >>>> >> "Dave L" <...
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>> >>>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>> >>>> >> >> they
>> >>>> >> >> were
>> >>>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Way cool!
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
>> >>>> >> > drove
>> >>>> >> > up
>> >>>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf
>> >>>> >> > had
>> >>>> >> > no
>> >>>> >> > desire to go with him!).
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > -Dave
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they
>> >>>> >> did
>> >>>> >> that,
>> >>>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
>> >>>> >> them
>> >>>> >> all.
>> >>>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> :-)
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Natalie
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>> >>>> > --
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>> >>>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
>> >>>> that, I
>> >>>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>> >>>> happens
>> >>>> to their own remains.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Natalie
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to
>> >>> me.
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
>> >> exhibit,
>> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>> >>
>> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
>> >> and
>> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>> >>
>> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>> >> that these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
>> >> people should probably skip it. I thought everything they did was
>> >> very
>> >> respectful of the displays.
>> >>
>> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>> >> healthy
>> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in
>> >> which
>> >> you can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there!
>> >> LOL Who knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free,
>> >> but
>> >> at least it got their attention.
>> >>
>> >> :-)
>> >>
>> >> Natalie
>> >
>> > Yeah, I thought the displays of a smoker's lungs vs. healthy lungs
>> > would
>> > have grabbed some attention. It was amazing on the "how" they did
>> > that.
>> > At least it didn't smell like formaldehyde (from what I remember). I
>> > remember taking a look in one of my brother's college classes - a room
>> > of
>> > cadavers being examined and dissected. Came out of there still
>> > smelling
>> > the formaldehyde...
>> >
>> > -Dave
>> >

>>
>> Gawd, autopsies used to gross me out - not because of the sights, but the
>> sounds.
>>
>> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
>> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
>> body
>> starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
>> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking.
>> It's a
>> horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>>
>> *shudder*
>>
>> Natalie

>
> You're kidding of course?? How could the nervous system still be alive
> after many hours or a couple of days?


They're never really "dead" so to speak. They're electrical conductors,
like wires. I don't know if it's heat/friction that causes it, or what.
Haven't you heard of postmortem movement in a corpse? Happens all the time.

Natalie



Wickeddoll 01-06-2008 07:00 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"Cathy F." ...
>
> "dbu'"
>>> > "Wickeddoll"
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> "Dave L" <...
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>>> >> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>>> >> >> >> >> they
>>> >> >> >> >> were
>>> >> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Way cool!
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when
>>> >> >> >> > I
>>> >> >> >> > drove
>>> >> >> >> > up
>>> >> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf
>>> >> >> >> > had
>>> >> >> >> > no
>>> >> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > -Dave
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they
>>> >> >> >> did
>>> >> >> >> that,
>>> >> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've
>>> >> >> >> seen
>>> >> >> >> them
>>> >> >> >> all.
>>> >> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> :-)
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Natalie
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>>> >> >> > --
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>>> >> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something
>>> >> >> like
>>> >> >> that, I
>>> >> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>>> >> >> happens
>>> >> >> to their own remains.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Natalie
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to
>>> >> > me.
>>> >> > --
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
>>> >> exhibit,
>>> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>>> >>
>>> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>>> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
>>> >> and
>>> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>>> >>
>>> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>>> >> that
>>> >> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive people
>>> >> should
>>> >> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very respectful
>>> >> of
>>> >> the
>>> >> displays.
>>> >>
>>> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>>> >> healthy
>>> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in
>>> >> which
>>> >> you
>>> >> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there!
>>> >> LOL
>>> >> Who
>>> >> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at
>>> >> least
>>> >> it
>>> >> got their attention.
>>> >>
>>> >> :-)
>>> >>
>>> >> Natalie
>>> >
>>> > I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
>>>
>>> I would *like* see it - on an interesting, intellectual plane. But
>>> don't
>>> think my involuntary reaction(s) - which reside on another plane - would
>>> allow me to.
>>>
>>> Cathy

>>
>> It's a sort of macabre form of entertainment for many. Not me.

>
> No, I don't think it's even supposed to be a form of entertainment. More
> like acquisition of knowledge; a better understanding of our own bodies.
> Granted, learning about a topic can be entertaining (as in interesting),
> but not in the same way you're using ther term, is my guess. We're not
> approaching this from the same angle, that's pretty obvious.
>
> Cathy
>


Absolutely - there was nothing "entertaining" about it. I saw it as an
educational experience. Science at its most fascinating, IMO.

Natalie



PeterD 01-06-2008 07:02 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 14:19:28 -0500, "Cathy F."
<clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:

>
>"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:flqjmt.2oc.1@news.evilcabal.org...


>> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
>> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
>> body starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
>> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking. It's
>> a horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>>
>> *shudder*

>
>I wish I hadn't read this...
>
>Cathy
>


Of course it is true, you read it on Usenet! BTW, Cathy, I've a bridge
for sale... And it won't sit up and scream, either.

Sure it sits up and move around, just like that BigMac you had today
for lunch moo'ed several times on the grill. Yea, that is right, that
cow actaully tried to get off the grill several times. That's nothing
you should see what happens at KFC! Those chicken parts running
around, trying to get out, madness, I tell you, madness.

See, and this is all true, because it is on the Internet. Absolutely
true. Dear Allat, I swear it. True. Really. Honest.

larry moe 'n curly 01-06-2008 07:05 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 


Jeff Strickland wrote:

> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they were
> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>
> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>
> Way cool!
>
> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...


Oh, if only the restraining order didn't prevent me from seeing that
exhibit again.


Wickeddoll 01-06-2008 07:13 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"PeterD"
"Cathy F."
wrote:
>
>>
>>"Wickeddoll" ...

>
>>> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
>>> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
>>> body starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
>>> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking.
>>> It's
>>> a horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>>>
>>> *shudder*

>>
>>I wish I hadn't read this...
>>
>>Cathy
>>

>
> Of course it is true, you read it on Usenet! BTW, Cathy, I've a bridge
> for sale... And it won't sit up and scream, either.
>
> Sure it sits up and move around, just like that BigMac you had today
> for lunch moo'ed several times on the grill. Yea, that is right, that
> cow actaully tried to get off the grill several times. That's nothing
> you should see what happens at KFC! Those chicken parts running
> around, trying to get out, madness, I tell you, madness.
>
> See, and this is all true, because it is on the Internet. Absolutely
> true. Dear Allat, I swear it. True. Really. Honest.


You have a differing view? Post your experience.

If you have no proof against it, I suggest you STFU.

Natalie



witfal 01-06-2008 08:02 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
On 2008-01-06 16:13:19 -0800, "Wickeddoll"
<wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> said:

>
> "PeterD"
> "Cathy F."
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Wickeddoll" ...

>>
>>>> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
>>>> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
>>>> body starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
>>>> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking.
>>>> It's
>>>> a horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>>>>
>>>> *shudder*
>>>
>>> I wish I hadn't read this...
>>>
>>> Cathy
>>>

>>
>> Of course it is true, you read it on Usenet! BTW, Cathy, I've a bridge
>> for sale... And it won't sit up and scream, either.
>>
>> Sure it sits up and move around, just like that BigMac you had today
>> for lunch moo'ed several times on the grill. Yea, that is right, that
>> cow actaully tried to get off the grill several times. That's nothing
>> you should see what happens at KFC! Those chicken parts running
>> around, trying to get out, madness, I tell you, madness.
>>
>> See, and this is all true, because it is on the Internet. Absolutely
>> true. Dear Allat, I swear it. True. Really. Honest.

>
> You have a differing view? Post your experience.
>
> If you have no proof against it, I suggest you STFU.


In case you missed it, Peter, you just got schooled.


dbu' 01-06-2008 08:02 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
In article <flr4ta.2a4.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "dbu'" ...
> > "Wickeddoll" wrote:
> >
> >> "Dave L"
> >> > "Wickeddoll" ...
> >> >>
> >> >> "dbu'"
> >> >>>> >> "Dave L" <...
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
> >> >>>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
> >> >>>> >> >> they
> >> >>>> >> >> were
> >> >>>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> Way cool!
> >> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
> >> >>>> >> > drove
> >> >>>> >> > up
> >> >>>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf
> >> >>>> >> > had
> >> >>>> >> > no
> >> >>>> >> > desire to go with him!).
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >> > -Dave
> >> >>>> >> >
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they
> >> >>>> >> did
> >> >>>> >> that,
> >> >>>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
> >> >>>> >> them
> >> >>>> >> all.
> >> >>>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> :-)
> >> >>>> >>
> >> >>>> >> Natalie
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
> >> >>>> > --
> >> >>>> >
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
> >> >>>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
> >> >>>> that, I
> >> >>>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
> >> >>>> happens
> >> >>>> to their own remains.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Natalie
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to
> >> >>> me.
> >> >>> --
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
> >> >> exhibit,
> >> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
> >> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
> >> >> and
> >> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
> >> >>
> >> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
> >> >> that these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
> >> >> people should probably skip it. I thought everything they did was
> >> >> very
> >> >> respectful of the displays.
> >> >>
> >> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
> >> >> healthy
> >> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in
> >> >> which
> >> >> you can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there!
> >> >> LOL Who knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free,
> >> >> but
> >> >> at least it got their attention.
> >> >>
> >> >> :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Natalie
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, I thought the displays of a smoker's lungs vs. healthy lungs
> >> > would
> >> > have grabbed some attention. It was amazing on the "how" they did
> >> > that.
> >> > At least it didn't smell like formaldehyde (from what I remember). I
> >> > remember taking a look in one of my brother's college classes - a room
> >> > of
> >> > cadavers being examined and dissected. Came out of there still
> >> > smelling
> >> > the formaldehyde...
> >> >
> >> > -Dave
> >> >
> >>
> >> Gawd, autopsies used to gross me out - not because of the sights, but the
> >> sounds.
> >>
> >> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
> >> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
> >> body
> >> starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
> >> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking.
> >> It's a
> >> horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
> >>
> >> *shudder*
> >>
> >> Natalie

> >
> > You're kidding of course?? How could the nervous system still be alive
> > after many hours or a couple of days?

>
> They're never really "dead" so to speak. They're electrical conductors,
> like wires. I don't know if it's heat/friction that causes it, or what.
> Haven't you heard of postmortem movement in a corpse? Happens all the time.
>
> Natalie


But no more than what it takes for rigor mortis to set in. A few hours
at most.
--
"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

Hillary Clinton

witfal 01-06-2008 08:05 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
On 2008-01-06 17:02:46 -0800, dbu' <nospam@nospam.moc> said:

>>> You're kidding of course?? How could the nervous system still be alive
>>> after many hours or a couple of days?

>>
>> They're never really "dead" so to speak. They're electrical conductors,
>> like wires. I don't know if it's heat/friction that causes it, or what.
>> Haven't you heard of postmortem movement in a corpse? Happens all the time.
>>
>> Natalie

>
> But no more than what it takes for rigor mortis to set in. A few hours
> at most.


Rigor is not permanent. It goes away after three or four days.


dbu' 01-06-2008 08:06 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
In article <xPCdnfh_J_9i_xzaRVn_vwA@giganews.com>,
"Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:

> "dbu'" <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
> news:nospam-519682.15041506012008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <rJadnaGCJoCvtxza4p2dnAA@giganews.com>,
> > "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "dbu'" <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
> >> news:nospam-626BC2.04405706012008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> >> > In article <flon1o.2q0.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
> >> > "Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "dbu'"
> >> >> > "Wickeddoll" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> "Dave L" <...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
> >> >> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
> >> >> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> >> >> were
> >> >> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Way cool!
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when
> >> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> >> > drove
> >> >> >> >> > up
> >> >> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf
> >> >> >> >> > had
> >> >> >> >> > no
> >> >> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > -Dave
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they
> >> >> >> >> did
> >> >> >> >> that,
> >> >> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
> >> >> >> >> them
> >> >> >> >> all.
> >> >> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> :-)
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Natalie
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
> >> >> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something
> >> >> >> like
> >> >> >> that, I
> >> >> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
> >> >> >> happens
> >> >> >> to their own remains.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Natalie
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to
> >> >> > me.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
> >> >> exhibit,
> >> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
> >> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
> >> >> and
> >> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
> >> >>
> >> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
> >> >> that
> >> >> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive people
> >> >> should
> >> >> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very respectful
> >> >> of
> >> >> the
> >> >> displays.
> >> >>
> >> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
> >> >> healthy
> >> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in
> >> >> which
> >> >> you
> >> >> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there! LOL
> >> >> Who
> >> >> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at
> >> >> least
> >> >> it
> >> >> got their attention.
> >> >>
> >> >> :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Natalie
> >> >
> >> > I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
> >>
> >> I would *like* see it - on an interesting, intellectual plane. But don't
> >> think my involuntary reaction(s) - which reside on another plane - would
> >> allow me to.
> >>
> >> Cathy

> >
> > It's a sort of macabre form of entertainment for many. Not me.

>
> No, I don't think it's even supposed to be a form of entertainment. More
> like acquisition of knowledge; a better understanding of our own bodies.
> Granted, learning about a topic can be entertaining (as in interesting), but
> not in the same way you're using ther term, is my guess. We're not
> approaching this from the same angle, that's pretty obvious.
>
> Cathy


Most who view this so called exhibit don't view it the same as you, from
a purely scientific state of mind I would guess. It is a Saturday
afternoon entertainment.
--
"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

Hillary Clinton

Wickeddoll 01-06-2008 08:41 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"witfal"
"Wickeddoll"
said:
>
>>
>> "PeterD"
>> "Cathy F."
>> wrote:
>>>>> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
>>>>> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
>>>>> body starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're
>>>>> dead)
>>>>> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking.
>>>>> It's
>>>>> a horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>>>>>
>>>>> *shudder*
>>>>
>>>> I wish I hadn't read this...
>>>>
>>>> Cathy
>>>>
>>>
>>> Of course it is true, you read it on Usenet! BTW, Cathy, I've a bridge
>>> for sale... And it won't sit up and scream, either.
>>>
>>> Sure it sits up and move around, just like that BigMac you had today
>>> for lunch moo'ed several times on the grill. Yea, that is right, that
>>> cow actaully tried to get off the grill several times. That's nothing
>>> you should see what happens at KFC! Those chicken parts running
>>> around, trying to get out, madness, I tell you, madness.
>>>
>>> See, and this is all true, because it is on the Internet. Absolutely
>>> true. Dear Allat, I swear it. True. Really. Honest.

>>
>> You have a differing view? Post your experience.
>>
>> If you have no proof against it, I suggest you STFU.

>
> In case you missed it, Peter, you just got schooled.
>

I re-read my original post, and realize I didn't mention that this
description of cremation is *second-hand* A pathologist I knew in the 80s
told me about it. If I had seen it myself, I would say so.

I can see how this reaction may happen, but I want to see whether this
individual has some first-hand experience of his own.

The pathologist was a very brilliant and accomplished man - I see no reason
for him to lie about that.

Natalie



Wickeddoll 01-06-2008 08:43 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"dbu'",
> "Cathy F."
>,
>> >> > "Wickeddoll"
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> "Dave L" <...
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>> >> >> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go.
>> >> >> >> >> >> If
>> >> >> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> >> >> were
>> >> >> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Way cool!
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep
>> >> >> >> >> >> ...
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago
>> >> >> >> >> > when
>> >> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> >> > drove
>> >> >> >> >> > up
>> >> >> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his
>> >> >> >> >> > gf
>> >> >> >> >> > had
>> >> >> >> >> > no
>> >> >> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > -Dave
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how*
>> >> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> >> did
>> >> >> >> >> that,
>> >> >> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've
>> >> >> >> >> seen
>> >> >> >> >> them
>> >> >> >> >> all.
>> >> >> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> :-)
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Natalie
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead
>> >> >> >> > people.
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was
>> >> >> >> from
>> >> >> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something
>> >> >> >> like
>> >> >> >> that, I
>> >> >> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say
>> >> >> >> what
>> >> >> >> happens
>> >> >> >> to their own remains.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Natalie
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > me.
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
>> >> >> exhibit,
>> >> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly
>> >> >> amazing
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing
>> >> >> us
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
>> >> >> people
>> >> >> should
>> >> >> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very
>> >> >> respectful
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> displays.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>> >> >> healthy
>> >> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in
>> >> >> which
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there!
>> >> >> LOL
>> >> >> Who
>> >> >> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at
>> >> >> least
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> got their attention.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> :-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Natalie
>> >> >
>> >> > I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
>> >>
>> >> I would *like* see it - on an interesting, intellectual plane. But
>> >> don't
>> >> think my involuntary reaction(s) - which reside on another plane -
>> >> would
>> >> allow me to.
>> >>
>> >> Cathy
>> >
>> > It's a sort of macabre form of entertainment for many. Not me.

>>
>> No, I don't think it's even supposed to be a form of entertainment. More
>> like acquisition of knowledge; a better understanding of our own bodies.
>> Granted, learning about a topic can be entertaining (as in interesting),
>> but
>> not in the same way you're using ther term, is my guess. We're not
>> approaching this from the same angle, that's pretty obvious.
>>
>> Cathy

>
> Most who view this so called exhibit don't view it the same as you, from
> a purely scientific state of mind I would guess. It is a Saturday
> afternoon entertainment.


Um, it's not "so-called" - it really is an exhibit. Not sure why you'd say
it wasn't. I mean, a horrible car accident is on display as well, but that
would draw curious, maybe even ghoulish spectators.

Having said that, the folks I saw seemed to be in awe, rather than morbidly
curious, but since I can't read minds, I can't be sure.

:-)

Natalie



Cathy F. 01-06-2008 10:12 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:flr4va.1d8.1@news.evilcabal.org...
>
> "Cathy F." ...
>>
>> "dbu'"
>>>> > "Wickeddoll"
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> "Dave L" <...
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>>>> >> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go.
>>>> >> >> >> >> If
>>>> >> >> >> >> they
>>>> >> >> >> >> were
>>>> >> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> Way cool!
>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago
>>>> >> >> >> > when I
>>>> >> >> >> > drove
>>>> >> >> >> > up
>>>> >> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his
>>>> >> >> >> > gf had
>>>> >> >> >> > no
>>>> >> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > -Dave
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how*
>>>> >> >> >> they did
>>>> >> >> >> that,
>>>> >> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've
>>>> >> >> >> seen
>>>> >> >> >> them
>>>> >> >> >> all.
>>>> >> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> :-)
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Natalie
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead
>>>> >> >> > people.
>>>> >> >> > --
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was
>>>> >> >> from
>>>> >> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something
>>>> >> >> like
>>>> >> >> that, I
>>>> >> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say
>>>> >> >> what
>>>> >> >> happens
>>>> >> >> to their own remains.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Natalie
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to
>>>> >> > me.
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
>>>> >> exhibit,
>>>> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies
>>>> >> for
>>>> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing
>>>> >> us
>>>> >> that
>>>> >> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
>>>> >> people
>>>> >> should
>>>> >> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very respectful
>>>> >> of
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> displays.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>>>> >> healthy
>>>> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in
>>>> >> which
>>>> >> you
>>>> >> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there!
>>>> >> LOL
>>>> >> Who
>>>> >> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at
>>>> >> least
>>>> >> it
>>>> >> got their attention.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> :-)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Natalie
>>>> >
>>>> > I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
>>>>
>>>> I would *like* see it - on an interesting, intellectual plane. But
>>>> don't
>>>> think my involuntary reaction(s) - which reside on another plane -
>>>> would
>>>> allow me to.
>>>>
>>>> Cathy
>>>
>>> It's a sort of macabre form of entertainment for many. Not me.

>>
>> No, I don't think it's even supposed to be a form of entertainment. More
>> like acquisition of knowledge; a better understanding of our own bodies.
>> Granted, learning about a topic can be entertaining (as in interesting),
>> but not in the same way you're using ther term, is my guess. We're not
>> approaching this from the same angle, that's pretty obvious.
>>
>> Cathy
>>

>
> Absolutely - there was nothing "entertaining" about it. I saw it as an
> educational experience. Science at its most fascinating, IMO.


Yes, you've expressed what I was trying to say - only you did it better.

Cathy
>
> Natalie
>





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