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Cathy F. 01-06-2008 02:19 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:flqjmt.2oc.1@news.evilcabal.org...
>
> "Dave L"
>> "Wickeddoll" ...
>>>
>>> "dbu'"
>>>>> >> "Dave L" <...
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>>>>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>>>>> >> >> they were
>>>>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> Way cool!
>>>>> >> >>
>>>>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
>>>>> >> > drove
>>>>> >> > up
>>>>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had
>>>>> >> > no
>>>>> >> > desire to go with him!).
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > -Dave
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did
>>>>> >> that,
>>>>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
>>>>> >> them
>>>>> >> all.
>>>>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> :-)
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Natalie
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>>>>> > --
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>>>>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
>>>>> that, I
>>>>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>>>>> happens
>>>>> to their own remains.
>>>>>
>>>>> Natalie
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>
>>> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the exhibit,
>>> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>>>
>>> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>>> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing and
>>> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>>>
>>> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>>> that these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
>>> people should probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very
>>> respectful of the displays.
>>>
>>> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>>> healthy lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box,
>>> in which you can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them
>>> there! LOL Who knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed
>>> smoke-free, but at least it got their attention.
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Natalie

>>
>> Yeah, I thought the displays of a smoker's lungs vs. healthy lungs would
>> have grabbed some attention. It was amazing on the "how" they did that.
>> At least it didn't smell like formaldehyde (from what I remember). I
>> remember taking a look in one of my brother's college classes - a room of
>> cadavers being examined and dissected. Came out of there still smelling
>> the formaldehyde...
>>
>> -Dave
>>

>
> Gawd, autopsies used to gross me out - not because of the sights, but the
> sounds.
>
> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
> body starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking. It's
> a horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>
> *shudder*


I wish I hadn't read this...

Cathy

>
> Natalie
>




Cathy F. 01-06-2008 02:21 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"dbu'" <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
news:nospam-626BC2.04405706012008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <flon1o.2q0.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
> "Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "dbu'"
>> > "Wickeddoll" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Dave L" <...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> were
>> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Way cool!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
>> >> >> > drove
>> >> >> > up
>> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had
>> >> >> > no
>> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -Dave
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did
>> >> >> that,
>> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
>> >> >> them
>> >> >> all.
>> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> :-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Natalie
>> >> >
>> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
>> >> that, I
>> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>> >> happens
>> >> to their own remains.
>> >>
>> >> Natalie
>> >
>> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
>> > --
>> >

>>
>> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the exhibit,
>> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>>
>> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing and
>> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>>
>> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>> that
>> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive people
>> should
>> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very respectful of
>> the
>> displays.
>>
>> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows healthy
>> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in which
>> you
>> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there! LOL
>> Who
>> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at least
>> it
>> got their attention.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Natalie

>
> I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.


I would *like* see it - on an interesting, intellectual plane. But don't
think my involuntary reaction(s) - which reside on another plane - would
allow me to.

Cathy




Wickeddoll 01-06-2008 02:25 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"Cathy F." ...
>
> "Wickeddoll" ...
>>
>> "Dave L"
>>>> "dbu'"
>>>>>> >> "Dave L" <...
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>>>>>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>>>>>> >> >> they were
>>>>>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Way cool!
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
>>>>>> >> > drove
>>>>>> >> > up
>>>>>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf
>>>>>> >> > had no
>>>>>> >> > desire to go with him!).
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > -Dave
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they
>>>>>> >> did that,
>>>>>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
>>>>>> >> them
>>>>>> >> all.
>>>>>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> :-)
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Natalie
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>>>>>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
>>>>>> that, I
>>>>>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>>>>>> happens
>>>>>> to their own remains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
>>>> exhibit, when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>>>>
>>>> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>>>> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
>>>> and practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>>>>
>>>> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>>>> that these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
>>>> people should probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very
>>>> respectful of the displays.
>>>>
>>>> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>>>> healthy lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box,
>>>> in which you can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them
>>>> there! LOL Who knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed
>>>> smoke-free, but at least it got their attention.
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Natalie
>>>
>>> Yeah, I thought the displays of a smoker's lungs vs. healthy lungs would
>>> have grabbed some attention. It was amazing on the "how" they did that.
>>> At least it didn't smell like formaldehyde (from what I remember). I
>>> remember taking a look in one of my brother's college classes - a room
>>> of cadavers being examined and dissected. Came out of there still
>>> smelling the formaldehyde...
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>

>>
>> Gawd, autopsies used to gross me out - not because of the sights, but the
>> sounds.
>>
>> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
>> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
>> body starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
>> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking.
>> It's a horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>>
>> *shudder*

>
> I wish I hadn't read this...
>
> Cathy


Could be worse - you could have *seen* it.

Natalie



witfal 01-06-2008 02:59 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
On 2008-01-06 11:25:29 -0800, "Wickeddoll"
<wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> said:

>> I wish I hadn't read this...
>>
>> Cathy

>
> Could be worse - you could have *seen* it.


OR dreamt about a relative doing this.


longwank@gmail.com 01-06-2008 03:59 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
are you jeff strickland from north carolina?
like from pondside in carteret?
well if so msg me at myspace

myspace.com/ranoldoe

<a href="myspace.com/ranoldoe">click this</a>

dbu' 01-06-2008 04:04 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
In article <rJadnaGCJoCvtxza4p2dnAA@giganews.com>,
"Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:

> "dbu'" <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
> news:nospam-626BC2.04405706012008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> > In article <flon1o.2q0.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
> > "Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "dbu'"
> >> > "Wickeddoll" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> "Dave L" <...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
> >> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
> >> >> >> >> they
> >> >> >> >> were
> >> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Way cool!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
> >> >> >> > drove
> >> >> >> > up
> >> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had
> >> >> >> > no
> >> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > -Dave
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did
> >> >> >> that,
> >> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
> >> >> >> them
> >> >> >> all.
> >> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> :-)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Natalie
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
> >> >> > --
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
> >> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
> >> >> that, I
> >> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
> >> >> happens
> >> >> to their own remains.
> >> >>
> >> >> Natalie
> >> >
> >> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
> >> > --
> >> >
> >>
> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the exhibit,
> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
> >>
> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing and
> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
> >>
> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
> >> that
> >> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive people
> >> should
> >> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very respectful of
> >> the
> >> displays.
> >>
> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows healthy
> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in which
> >> you
> >> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there! LOL
> >> Who
> >> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at least
> >> it
> >> got their attention.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Natalie

> >
> > I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.

>
> I would *like* see it - on an interesting, intellectual plane. But don't
> think my involuntary reaction(s) - which reside on another plane - would
> allow me to.
>
> Cathy


It's a sort of macabre form of entertainment for many. Not me.
--
"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

Hillary Clinton

dbu' 01-06-2008 04:06 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 
In article <flqjmt.2oc.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
"Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:

> "Dave L"
> > "Wickeddoll" ...
> >>
> >> "dbu'"
> >>>> >> "Dave L" <...
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
> >>>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If they
> >>>> >> >> were
> >>>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> Way cool!
> >>>> >> >>
> >>>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
> >>>> >> > drove
> >>>> >> > up
> >>>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf had
> >>>> >> > no
> >>>> >> > desire to go with him!).
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >> > -Dave
> >>>> >> >
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they did
> >>>> >> that,
> >>>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
> >>>> >> them
> >>>> >> all.
> >>>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> :-)
> >>>> >>
> >>>> >> Natalie
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
> >>>> > --
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
> >>>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
> >>>> that, I
> >>>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
> >>>> happens
> >>>> to their own remains.
> >>>>
> >>>> Natalie
> >>>
> >>> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to me.
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>
> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the exhibit,
> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
> >>
> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing and
> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
> >>
> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
> >> that these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
> >> people should probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very
> >> respectful of the displays.
> >>
> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows healthy
> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in which
> >> you can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there!
> >> LOL Who knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but
> >> at least it got their attention.
> >>
> >> :-)
> >>
> >> Natalie

> >
> > Yeah, I thought the displays of a smoker's lungs vs. healthy lungs would
> > have grabbed some attention. It was amazing on the "how" they did that.
> > At least it didn't smell like formaldehyde (from what I remember). I
> > remember taking a look in one of my brother's college classes - a room of
> > cadavers being examined and dissected. Came out of there still smelling
> > the formaldehyde...
> >
> > -Dave
> >

>
> Gawd, autopsies used to gross me out - not because of the sights, but the
> sounds.
>
> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the body
> starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking. It's a
> horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>
> *shudder*
>
> Natalie


You're kidding of course?? How could the nervous system still be alive
after many hours or a couple of days?
--
"We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

Hillary Clinton

Cathy F. 01-06-2008 06:23 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"dbu'" <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
news:nospam-519682.15041506012008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <rJadnaGCJoCvtxza4p2dnAA@giganews.com>,
> "Cathy F." <clfrclfr@adelphiadotdashdot.net> wrote:
>
>> "dbu'" <nospam@nospam.moc> wrote in message
>> news:nospam-626BC2.04405706012008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
>> > In article <flon1o.2q0.1@news.evilcabal.org>,
>> > "Wickeddoll" <wickeddollnofeckingspam1958@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "dbu'"
>> >> > "Wickeddoll" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> "Dave L" <...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>> >> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>> >> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> >> were
>> >> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Way cool!
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when
>> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> > drove
>> >> >> >> > up
>> >> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf
>> >> >> >> > had
>> >> >> >> > no
>> >> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > -Dave
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they
>> >> >> >> did
>> >> >> >> that,
>> >> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
>> >> >> >> them
>> >> >> >> all.
>> >> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> :-)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Natalie
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>> >> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something
>> >> >> like
>> >> >> that, I
>> >> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>> >> >> happens
>> >> >> to their own remains.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Natalie
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to
>> >> > me.
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
>> >> exhibit,
>> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>> >>
>> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
>> >> and
>> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>> >>
>> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>> >> that
>> >> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive people
>> >> should
>> >> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very respectful
>> >> of
>> >> the
>> >> displays.
>> >>
>> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>> >> healthy
>> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in
>> >> which
>> >> you
>> >> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there! LOL
>> >> Who
>> >> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at
>> >> least
>> >> it
>> >> got their attention.
>> >>
>> >> :-)
>> >>
>> >> Natalie
>> >
>> > I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.

>>
>> I would *like* see it - on an interesting, intellectual plane. But don't
>> think my involuntary reaction(s) - which reside on another plane - would
>> allow me to.
>>
>> Cathy

>
> It's a sort of macabre form of entertainment for many. Not me.


No, I don't think it's even supposed to be a form of entertainment. More
like acquisition of knowledge; a better understanding of our own bodies.
Granted, learning about a topic can be entertaining (as in interesting), but
not in the same way you're using ther term, is my guess. We're not
approaching this from the same angle, that's pretty obvious.

Cathy


> --
> "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
>
> Hillary Clinton




Wickeddoll 01-06-2008 06:58 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"dbu'" ...
> "Wickeddoll" wrote:
>
>> "Dave L"
>> > "Wickeddoll" ...
>> >>
>> >> "dbu'"
>> >>>> >> "Dave L" <...
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>> >>>> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>> >>>> >> >> they
>> >>>> >> >> were
>> >>>> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Way cool!
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when I
>> >>>> >> > drove
>> >>>> >> > up
>> >>>> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf
>> >>>> >> > had
>> >>>> >> > no
>> >>>> >> > desire to go with him!).
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > -Dave
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they
>> >>>> >> did
>> >>>> >> that,
>> >>>> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've seen
>> >>>> >> them
>> >>>> >> all.
>> >>>> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> :-)
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Natalie
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>> >>>> > --
>> >>>> >
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>> >>>> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something like
>> >>>> that, I
>> >>>> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>> >>>> happens
>> >>>> to their own remains.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Natalie
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to
>> >>> me.
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
>> >> exhibit,
>> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>> >>
>> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
>> >> and
>> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>> >>
>> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>> >> that these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive
>> >> people should probably skip it. I thought everything they did was
>> >> very
>> >> respectful of the displays.
>> >>
>> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>> >> healthy
>> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in
>> >> which
>> >> you can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there!
>> >> LOL Who knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free,
>> >> but
>> >> at least it got their attention.
>> >>
>> >> :-)
>> >>
>> >> Natalie
>> >
>> > Yeah, I thought the displays of a smoker's lungs vs. healthy lungs
>> > would
>> > have grabbed some attention. It was amazing on the "how" they did
>> > that.
>> > At least it didn't smell like formaldehyde (from what I remember). I
>> > remember taking a look in one of my brother's college classes - a room
>> > of
>> > cadavers being examined and dissected. Came out of there still
>> > smelling
>> > the formaldehyde...
>> >
>> > -Dave
>> >

>>
>> Gawd, autopsies used to gross me out - not because of the sights, but the
>> sounds.
>>
>> This will disturb DBU, I'm sure, but something that's even worse is a
>> cremation. At one point, the heat activates the nervous system, so the
>> body
>> starts a bunch of wild, involuntary (of course, since they're dead)
>> movements. The body may actually sit up, and appear to be speaking.
>> It's a
>> horror show. Good thing the family doesn't usually witness it!
>>
>> *shudder*
>>
>> Natalie

>
> You're kidding of course?? How could the nervous system still be alive
> after many hours or a couple of days?


They're never really "dead" so to speak. They're electrical conductors,
like wires. I don't know if it's heat/friction that causes it, or what.
Haven't you heard of postmortem movement in a corpse? Happens all the time.

Natalie



Wickeddoll 01-06-2008 07:00 PM

Re: {{ OT }} Bodies ... the Exhibition
 

"Cathy F." ...
>
> "dbu'"
>>> > "Wickeddoll"
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> "Dave L" <...
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > "Jeff Strickland" ...
>>> >> >> >> >> This is VERY cool. If you have not been, you ought to go. If
>>> >> >> >> >> they
>>> >> >> >> >> were
>>> >> >> >> >> holding it longer in my area, I would go again.
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> http://www.bodiestheexhibition.com/
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> Way cool!
>>> >> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> >> I'm sure at least one of them drove a Toyota, or a Jeep ...
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > Looks like the same one I went to in NYC a few years ago when
>>> >> >> >> > I
>>> >> >> >> > drove
>>> >> >> >> > up
>>> >> >> >> > there to visit relatives. My cousin invited me to go (his gf
>>> >> >> >> > had
>>> >> >> >> > no
>>> >> >> >> > desire to go with him!).
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> > -Dave
>>> >> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> As a medical person, I was more fascinated more with *how* they
>>> >> >> >> did
>>> >> >> >> that,
>>> >> >> >> rather than the display itself. Ya see one cadaver, you've
>>> >> >> >> seen
>>> >> >> >> them
>>> >> >> >> all.
>>> >> >> >> I bought some souvenir stuff there.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> :-)
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Natalie
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I think it's a disgusting commercialized display of dead people.
>>> >> >> > --
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Dunno if you know this, but every cadaver in that exhibit was from
>>> >> >> *volunteer* subjects. If it were homeless people, or something
>>> >> >> like
>>> >> >> that, I
>>> >> >> would agree with you, but I think a person has a right to say what
>>> >> >> happens
>>> >> >> to their own remains.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Natalie
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Yes, I know that, but it, the exhibit, still seems very strange to
>>> >> > me.
>>> >> > --
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >> Fair enough, but I just didn't think it was fair to condemn the
>>> >> exhibit,
>>> >> when participation in it was purely voluntary, that's all.
>>> >>
>>> >> It's very effective, however. I think we tend to take our bodies for
>>> >> granted, and this exhibit shows the general public how truly amazing
>>> >> and
>>> >> practical our bodies are, though we abuse them.
>>> >>
>>> >> They had a section of infants/embryos, which bore a sign informing us
>>> >> that
>>> >> these were all spontaneous deaths, but that the more sensitive people
>>> >> should
>>> >> probably skip it. I thought everything they did was very respectful
>>> >> of
>>> >> the
>>> >> displays.
>>> >>
>>> >> In the part of the exhibit about the respiratory system, it shows
>>> >> healthy
>>> >> lungs, and smoker's lungs. Right next to that is a clear box, in
>>> >> which
>>> >> you
>>> >> can throw your smoking supplies. There were a lot of them there!
>>> >> LOL
>>> >> Who
>>> >> knows if the folks who ditched the stuff stayed smoke-free, but at
>>> >> least
>>> >> it
>>> >> got their attention.
>>> >>
>>> >> :-)
>>> >>
>>> >> Natalie
>>> >
>>> > I characterize it as macabre. Sorry, but that's how I see it.
>>>
>>> I would *like* see it - on an interesting, intellectual plane. But
>>> don't
>>> think my involuntary reaction(s) - which reside on another plane - would
>>> allow me to.
>>>
>>> Cathy

>>
>> It's a sort of macabre form of entertainment for many. Not me.

>
> No, I don't think it's even supposed to be a form of entertainment. More
> like acquisition of knowledge; a better understanding of our own bodies.
> Granted, learning about a topic can be entertaining (as in interesting),
> but not in the same way you're using ther term, is my guess. We're not
> approaching this from the same angle, that's pretty obvious.
>
> Cathy
>


Absolutely - there was nothing "entertaining" about it. I saw it as an
educational experience. Science at its most fascinating, IMO.

Natalie




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