YJ front locker?
04-09-2007, 09:46 AM
#21
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Re: YJ front locker?
And the OP's YJ has an axle disconnect that makes your comments irrelevant.
SnoMan wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 18:39:59 -0700, "Carl S"
> <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Powertrax lockright is a great lunchbox locker, and
>>cheap, too.
>
>
> And a very poor choice for a front drive axle. It can only drive both
> ties at same speed or drive one wheel coasting the other under little
> or no power. It will increase turning radius in 4x4 and it will send a
> LOT or torque whip back through steering wheel in tight turns (because
> Ujoint are not constant velocity). You want a selectable locker or a
> True Trax gear based LSD up there (the True Trax plays well in front
> drive axle and Oshkosh snow plow trucks have been using gear based LSD
> for about 30 years now and there is nothing light duty about them)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
SnoMan wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 18:39:59 -0700, "Carl S"
> <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Powertrax lockright is a great lunchbox locker, and
>>cheap, too.
>
>
> And a very poor choice for a front drive axle. It can only drive both
> ties at same speed or drive one wheel coasting the other under little
> or no power. It will increase turning radius in 4x4 and it will send a
> LOT or torque whip back through steering wheel in tight turns (because
> Ujoint are not constant velocity). You want a selectable locker or a
> True Trax gear based LSD up there (the True Trax plays well in front
> drive axle and Oshkosh snow plow trucks have been using gear based LSD
> for about 30 years now and there is nothing light duty about them)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
04-09-2007, 09:46 AM
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Re: YJ front locker?
And the OP's YJ has an axle disconnect that makes your comments irrelevant.
SnoMan wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 18:39:59 -0700, "Carl S"
> <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Powertrax lockright is a great lunchbox locker, and
>>cheap, too.
>
>
> And a very poor choice for a front drive axle. It can only drive both
> ties at same speed or drive one wheel coasting the other under little
> or no power. It will increase turning radius in 4x4 and it will send a
> LOT or torque whip back through steering wheel in tight turns (because
> Ujoint are not constant velocity). You want a selectable locker or a
> True Trax gear based LSD up there (the True Trax plays well in front
> drive axle and Oshkosh snow plow trucks have been using gear based LSD
> for about 30 years now and there is nothing light duty about them)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
SnoMan wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 18:39:59 -0700, "Carl S"
> <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Powertrax lockright is a great lunchbox locker, and
>>cheap, too.
>
>
> And a very poor choice for a front drive axle. It can only drive both
> ties at same speed or drive one wheel coasting the other under little
> or no power. It will increase turning radius in 4x4 and it will send a
> LOT or torque whip back through steering wheel in tight turns (because
> Ujoint are not constant velocity). You want a selectable locker or a
> True Trax gear based LSD up there (the True Trax plays well in front
> drive axle and Oshkosh snow plow trucks have been using gear based LSD
> for about 30 years now and there is nothing light duty about them)
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
04-09-2007, 10:06 AM
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Re: YJ front locker?
SnoMan wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 20:07:34 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>> if want to see eyes light up
>> as you crawl passed them, go Lincoln Locker:
>
>
> This is the absolute poorest choice for a front axle. Just do that and
> try to drive and manuver it.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
YJ's have an axle disconnect....
You should stick to your J10 driveway snow plow SnoMan, we actually
drive our 4x4's off and 'on' the road in this group.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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> On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 20:07:34 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>> if want to see eyes light up
>> as you crawl passed them, go Lincoln Locker:
>
>
> This is the absolute poorest choice for a front axle. Just do that and
> try to drive and manuver it.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
YJ's have an axle disconnect....
You should stick to your J10 driveway snow plow SnoMan, we actually
drive our 4x4's off and 'on' the road in this group.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
04-09-2007, 10:06 AM
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Re: YJ front locker?
SnoMan wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 20:07:34 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>> if want to see eyes light up
>> as you crawl passed them, go Lincoln Locker:
>
>
> This is the absolute poorest choice for a front axle. Just do that and
> try to drive and manuver it.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
YJ's have an axle disconnect....
You should stick to your J10 driveway snow plow SnoMan, we actually
drive our 4x4's off and 'on' the road in this group.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 20:07:34 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>> if want to see eyes light up
>> as you crawl passed them, go Lincoln Locker:
>
>
> This is the absolute poorest choice for a front axle. Just do that and
> try to drive and manuver it.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
YJ's have an axle disconnect....
You should stick to your J10 driveway snow plow SnoMan, we actually
drive our 4x4's off and 'on' the road in this group.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
04-09-2007, 10:06 AM
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Re: YJ front locker?
SnoMan wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 20:07:34 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>> if want to see eyes light up
>> as you crawl passed them, go Lincoln Locker:
>
>
> This is the absolute poorest choice for a front axle. Just do that and
> try to drive and manuver it.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
YJ's have an axle disconnect....
You should stick to your J10 driveway snow plow SnoMan, we actually
drive our 4x4's off and 'on' the road in this group.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> On Sun, 8 Apr 2007 20:07:34 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
> <----------@***.net> wrote:
>
>> if want to see eyes light up
>> as you crawl passed them, go Lincoln Locker:
>
>
> This is the absolute poorest choice for a front axle. Just do that and
> try to drive and manuver it.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
YJ's have an axle disconnect....
You should stick to your J10 driveway snow plow SnoMan, we actually
drive our 4x4's off and 'on' the road in this group.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
04-09-2007, 10:25 AM
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Re: Re: Re: YJ front locker?
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 09:29:36 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>First, you're an idiot snojob.
>Second, no one invited your -------- here.
>Third, if you spent any quality time in this group at all, you'd know that
Once a troll always a troll as you just cannot get it out of your
blood can you. You may think your are being cute but others can see
you for what you are. Some come here looking for advise and some like
you come here to make jokes and act like a troll. Knock yourself out!
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<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>First, you're an idiot snojob.
>Second, no one invited your -------- here.
>Third, if you spent any quality time in this group at all, you'd know that
Once a troll always a troll as you just cannot get it out of your
blood can you. You may think your are being cute but others can see
you for what you are. Some come here looking for advise and some like
you come here to make jokes and act like a troll. Knock yourself out!
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
04-09-2007, 10:25 AM
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Re: Re: Re: YJ front locker?
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 09:29:36 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>First, you're an idiot snojob.
>Second, no one invited your -------- here.
>Third, if you spent any quality time in this group at all, you'd know that
Once a troll always a troll as you just cannot get it out of your
blood can you. You may think your are being cute but others can see
you for what you are. Some come here looking for advise and some like
you come here to make jokes and act like a troll. Knock yourself out!
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>First, you're an idiot snojob.
>Second, no one invited your -------- here.
>Third, if you spent any quality time in this group at all, you'd know that
Once a troll always a troll as you just cannot get it out of your
blood can you. You may think your are being cute but others can see
you for what you are. Some come here looking for advise and some like
you come here to make jokes and act like a troll. Knock yourself out!
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
04-09-2007, 10:25 AM
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Re: Re: Re: YJ front locker?
On Mon, 9 Apr 2007 09:29:36 -0400, "Spdloader"
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>First, you're an idiot snojob.
>Second, no one invited your -------- here.
>Third, if you spent any quality time in this group at all, you'd know that
Once a troll always a troll as you just cannot get it out of your
blood can you. You may think your are being cute but others can see
you for what you are. Some come here looking for advise and some like
you come here to make jokes and act like a troll. Knock yourself out!
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
<askforit@nospam.triad.rr.com> wrote:
>First, you're an idiot snojob.
>Second, no one invited your -------- here.
>Third, if you spent any quality time in this group at all, you'd know that
Once a troll always a troll as you just cannot get it out of your
blood can you. You may think your are being cute but others can see
you for what you are. Some come here looking for advise and some like
you come here to make jokes and act like a troll. Knock yourself out!
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
04-09-2007, 10:33 AM
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Re: Re: YJ front locker?
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:46:44 GMT, RoyJ <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:
>And the OP's YJ has an axle disconnect that makes your comments irrelevant.
Typical troll again because when you use the front axle under power it
has to have wheels turn at a different speeds in a turn due to physics
involved and then there is the fact that Ujoints are not constant
velocity in a turn so they complicate this further and the net result
is nasty driveline bind and wheels having to skid in a turn and loose
traction and reduce truning radius. (not to mention strain of front
axles, joints and stub shafts) You would know this if you really knew
about the physics involved but your knowledge is very limited here and
push button 4x4 drive was made just for "people" like you. I tell it
like it is not like you want to believe it is. Listen and read
sometimes and you might just learn something.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
>And the OP's YJ has an axle disconnect that makes your comments irrelevant.
Typical troll again because when you use the front axle under power it
has to have wheels turn at a different speeds in a turn due to physics
involved and then there is the fact that Ujoints are not constant
velocity in a turn so they complicate this further and the net result
is nasty driveline bind and wheels having to skid in a turn and loose
traction and reduce truning radius. (not to mention strain of front
axles, joints and stub shafts) You would know this if you really knew
about the physics involved but your knowledge is very limited here and
push button 4x4 drive was made just for "people" like you. I tell it
like it is not like you want to believe it is. Listen and read
sometimes and you might just learn something.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
04-09-2007, 10:33 AM
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Re: Re: YJ front locker?
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:46:44 GMT, RoyJ <spamless@microsoft.net> wrote:
>And the OP's YJ has an axle disconnect that makes your comments irrelevant.
Typical troll again because when you use the front axle under power it
has to have wheels turn at a different speeds in a turn due to physics
involved and then there is the fact that Ujoints are not constant
velocity in a turn so they complicate this further and the net result
is nasty driveline bind and wheels having to skid in a turn and loose
traction and reduce truning radius. (not to mention strain of front
axles, joints and stub shafts) You would know this if you really knew
about the physics involved but your knowledge is very limited here and
push button 4x4 drive was made just for "people" like you. I tell it
like it is not like you want to believe it is. Listen and read
sometimes and you might just learn something.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
>And the OP's YJ has an axle disconnect that makes your comments irrelevant.
Typical troll again because when you use the front axle under power it
has to have wheels turn at a different speeds in a turn due to physics
involved and then there is the fact that Ujoints are not constant
velocity in a turn so they complicate this further and the net result
is nasty driveline bind and wheels having to skid in a turn and loose
traction and reduce truning radius. (not to mention strain of front
axles, joints and stub shafts) You would know this if you really knew
about the physics involved but your knowledge is very limited here and
push button 4x4 drive was made just for "people" like you. I tell it
like it is not like you want to believe it is. Listen and read
sometimes and you might just learn something.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
