YJ front locker?
04-11-2007, 05:56 AM
#131
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Re: YJ front locker?
Yup, that's why they forced antilock brakes on us. Now instead of
skidding sideways, or piling up a little snow in front of a wheel, we blow
right through stop signs.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:75idnQpQPdd0h4HbnZ2dnUVZ_vKunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front drive
car
> was a surprise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
skidding sideways, or piling up a little snow in front of a wheel, we blow
right through stop signs.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:75idnQpQPdd0h4HbnZ2dnUVZ_vKunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front drive
car
> was a surprise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
--
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04-11-2007, 05:56 AM
#132
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Re: YJ front locker?
Yup, that's why they forced antilock brakes on us. Now instead of
skidding sideways, or piling up a little snow in front of a wheel, we blow
right through stop signs.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:75idnQpQPdd0h4HbnZ2dnUVZ_vKunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front drive
car
> was a surprise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
skidding sideways, or piling up a little snow in front of a wheel, we blow
right through stop signs.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:75idnQpQPdd0h4HbnZ2dnUVZ_vKunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front drive
car
> was a surprise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
04-11-2007, 05:56 AM
#133
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Re: YJ front locker?
Yup, that's why they forced antilock brakes on us. Now instead of
skidding sideways, or piling up a little snow in front of a wheel, we blow
right through stop signs.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:75idnQpQPdd0h4HbnZ2dnUVZ_vKunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front drive
car
> was a surprise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
skidding sideways, or piling up a little snow in front of a wheel, we blow
right through stop signs.
God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
news:75idnQpQPdd0h4HbnZ2dnUVZ_vKunZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front drive
car
> was a surprise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
--
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04-11-2007, 08:54 AM
#134
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Re: YJ front locker?
LOL Reminds me of my 72 Super Beetle VW.
I used to rip around on the frozen river, up and down the
snowmobile trails....etc (my young rebel days)
Other than my Jeep that car was a hoot to drive, cheap on gas too :-)
Earle Horton wrote:
> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front drive car
> was a surprise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:461c19b9$0$4000$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
>>It 'sure' takes practice to be comfortable 'on the gas' in situations
>>like that doesn't it.
>>
>>I grew up in an ice storm central area so learned young. :-)
>>
>>I used to take out groups here to the local mud pits come first freeze
>>up to learn how to feel comfortable running pit walls up and down in
>>snow and ice. I recommend that to all. At least practice in an empty
>>parking lot come first snow.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>If I had had the nerve to goose the accelerator a little I know I could
>
> have
>
>>>pulled right out of it. What I did was stay off the brakes and steer
>
> with
>
>>>the skid. But it over-corrected three or four times on me. San Juan
>>>Mountains are not suitable for four wheeling yet, heh, but the snow pack
>
> is
>
>>>pretty light. Look for a good year, but you might have to pack water
>
> and
>
>>>there may be camping restrictions like there were five years ago.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:461c005f$0$16263$88260bb3@free.teranews.co m...
>>>
>>>> Yes, but you are a zillion time closer to control than most
>
> passenger
>
>>>>cars.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>>>news:SNWdnVkTQPPDP4bbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast. com
>>>>
>>>>>I hit a long downhill stretch of semi-frozen slush Sunday with the
>>>>
>>>>Wrangler
>>>>
>>>>>in four wheel drive. Amazing how the front and rear want to switch
>>>>
>>>>places,
>>>>
>>>>>even with open differentials.
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
I used to rip around on the frozen river, up and down the
snowmobile trails....etc (my young rebel days)
Other than my Jeep that car was a hoot to drive, cheap on gas too :-)
Earle Horton wrote:
> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front drive car
> was a surprise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:461c19b9$0$4000$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
>>It 'sure' takes practice to be comfortable 'on the gas' in situations
>>like that doesn't it.
>>
>>I grew up in an ice storm central area so learned young. :-)
>>
>>I used to take out groups here to the local mud pits come first freeze
>>up to learn how to feel comfortable running pit walls up and down in
>>snow and ice. I recommend that to all. At least practice in an empty
>>parking lot come first snow.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>If I had had the nerve to goose the accelerator a little I know I could
>
> have
>
>>>pulled right out of it. What I did was stay off the brakes and steer
>
> with
>
>>>the skid. But it over-corrected three or four times on me. San Juan
>>>Mountains are not suitable for four wheeling yet, heh, but the snow pack
>
> is
>
>>>pretty light. Look for a good year, but you might have to pack water
>
> and
>
>>>there may be camping restrictions like there were five years ago.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:461c005f$0$16263$88260bb3@free.teranews.co m...
>>>
>>>> Yes, but you are a zillion time closer to control than most
>
> passenger
>
>>>>cars.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>>>news:SNWdnVkTQPPDP4bbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast. com
>>>>
>>>>>I hit a long downhill stretch of semi-frozen slush Sunday with the
>>>>
>>>>Wrangler
>>>>
>>>>>in four wheel drive. Amazing how the front and rear want to switch
>>>>
>>>>places,
>>>>
>>>>>even with open differentials.
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
04-11-2007, 08:54 AM
#135
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: YJ front locker?
LOL Reminds me of my 72 Super Beetle VW.
I used to rip around on the frozen river, up and down the
snowmobile trails....etc (my young rebel days)
Other than my Jeep that car was a hoot to drive, cheap on gas too :-)
Earle Horton wrote:
> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front drive car
> was a surprise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:461c19b9$0$4000$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
>>It 'sure' takes practice to be comfortable 'on the gas' in situations
>>like that doesn't it.
>>
>>I grew up in an ice storm central area so learned young. :-)
>>
>>I used to take out groups here to the local mud pits come first freeze
>>up to learn how to feel comfortable running pit walls up and down in
>>snow and ice. I recommend that to all. At least practice in an empty
>>parking lot come first snow.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>If I had had the nerve to goose the accelerator a little I know I could
>
> have
>
>>>pulled right out of it. What I did was stay off the brakes and steer
>
> with
>
>>>the skid. But it over-corrected three or four times on me. San Juan
>>>Mountains are not suitable for four wheeling yet, heh, but the snow pack
>
> is
>
>>>pretty light. Look for a good year, but you might have to pack water
>
> and
>
>>>there may be camping restrictions like there were five years ago.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:461c005f$0$16263$88260bb3@free.teranews.co m...
>>>
>>>> Yes, but you are a zillion time closer to control than most
>
> passenger
>
>>>>cars.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>>>news:SNWdnVkTQPPDP4bbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast. com
>>>>
>>>>>I hit a long downhill stretch of semi-frozen slush Sunday with the
>>>>
>>>>Wrangler
>>>>
>>>>>in four wheel drive. Amazing how the front and rear want to switch
>>>>
>>>>places,
>>>>
>>>>>even with open differentials.
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
I used to rip around on the frozen river, up and down the
snowmobile trails....etc (my young rebel days)
Other than my Jeep that car was a hoot to drive, cheap on gas too :-)
Earle Horton wrote:
> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front drive car
> was a surprise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:461c19b9$0$4000$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
>>It 'sure' takes practice to be comfortable 'on the gas' in situations
>>like that doesn't it.
>>
>>I grew up in an ice storm central area so learned young. :-)
>>
>>I used to take out groups here to the local mud pits come first freeze
>>up to learn how to feel comfortable running pit walls up and down in
>>snow and ice. I recommend that to all. At least practice in an empty
>>parking lot come first snow.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>If I had had the nerve to goose the accelerator a little I know I could
>
> have
>
>>>pulled right out of it. What I did was stay off the brakes and steer
>
> with
>
>>>the skid. But it over-corrected three or four times on me. San Juan
>>>Mountains are not suitable for four wheeling yet, heh, but the snow pack
>
> is
>
>>>pretty light. Look for a good year, but you might have to pack water
>
> and
>
>>>there may be camping restrictions like there were five years ago.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:461c005f$0$16263$88260bb3@free.teranews.co m...
>>>
>>>> Yes, but you are a zillion time closer to control than most
>
> passenger
>
>>>>cars.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>>>news:SNWdnVkTQPPDP4bbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast. com
>>>>
>>>>>I hit a long downhill stretch of semi-frozen slush Sunday with the
>>>>
>>>>Wrangler
>>>>
>>>>>in four wheel drive. Amazing how the front and rear want to switch
>>>>
>>>>places,
>>>>
>>>>>even with open differentials.
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
04-11-2007, 08:54 AM
#136
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: YJ front locker?
LOL Reminds me of my 72 Super Beetle VW.
I used to rip around on the frozen river, up and down the
snowmobile trails....etc (my young rebel days)
Other than my Jeep that car was a hoot to drive, cheap on gas too :-)
Earle Horton wrote:
> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front drive car
> was a surprise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:461c19b9$0$4000$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
>>It 'sure' takes practice to be comfortable 'on the gas' in situations
>>like that doesn't it.
>>
>>I grew up in an ice storm central area so learned young. :-)
>>
>>I used to take out groups here to the local mud pits come first freeze
>>up to learn how to feel comfortable running pit walls up and down in
>>snow and ice. I recommend that to all. At least practice in an empty
>>parking lot come first snow.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>If I had had the nerve to goose the accelerator a little I know I could
>
> have
>
>>>pulled right out of it. What I did was stay off the brakes and steer
>
> with
>
>>>the skid. But it over-corrected three or four times on me. San Juan
>>>Mountains are not suitable for four wheeling yet, heh, but the snow pack
>
> is
>
>>>pretty light. Look for a good year, but you might have to pack water
>
> and
>
>>>there may be camping restrictions like there were five years ago.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:461c005f$0$16263$88260bb3@free.teranews.co m...
>>>
>>>> Yes, but you are a zillion time closer to control than most
>
> passenger
>
>>>>cars.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>>>news:SNWdnVkTQPPDP4bbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast. com
>>>>
>>>>>I hit a long downhill stretch of semi-frozen slush Sunday with the
>>>>
>>>>Wrangler
>>>>
>>>>>in four wheel drive. Amazing how the front and rear want to switch
>>>>
>>>>places,
>>>>
>>>>>even with open differentials.
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
I used to rip around on the frozen river, up and down the
snowmobile trails....etc (my young rebel days)
Other than my Jeep that car was a hoot to drive, cheap on gas too :-)
Earle Horton wrote:
> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front drive car
> was a surprise.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Earle
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:461c19b9$0$4000$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>
>>It 'sure' takes practice to be comfortable 'on the gas' in situations
>>like that doesn't it.
>>
>>I grew up in an ice storm central area so learned young. :-)
>>
>>I used to take out groups here to the local mud pits come first freeze
>>up to learn how to feel comfortable running pit walls up and down in
>>snow and ice. I recommend that to all. At least practice in an empty
>>parking lot come first snow.
>>
>>Mike
>>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>If I had had the nerve to goose the accelerator a little I know I could
>
> have
>
>>>pulled right out of it. What I did was stay off the brakes and steer
>
> with
>
>>>the skid. But it over-corrected three or four times on me. San Juan
>>>Mountains are not suitable for four wheeling yet, heh, but the snow pack
>
> is
>
>>>pretty light. Look for a good year, but you might have to pack water
>
> and
>
>>>there may be camping restrictions like there were five years ago.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:461c005f$0$16263$88260bb3@free.teranews.co m...
>>>
>>>> Yes, but you are a zillion time closer to control than most
>
> passenger
>
>>>>cars.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>>>news:SNWdnVkTQPPDP4bbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast. com
>>>>
>>>>>I hit a long downhill stretch of semi-frozen slush Sunday with the
>>>>
>>>>Wrangler
>>>>
>>>>>in four wheel drive. Amazing how the front and rear want to switch
>>>>
>>>>places,
>>>>
>>>>>even with open differentials.
>>>>>
>>>>>Earle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
04-11-2007, 09:00 AM
#137
Guest
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Re: YJ front locker?
I had a 68 VW that was too much fun on snowmobile trails and logging
roads too.
Mike
FrankW wrote:
> LOL Reminds me of my 72 Super Beetle VW.
> I used to rip around on the frozen river, up and down the
> snowmobile trails....etc (my young rebel days)
> Other than my Jeep that car was a hoot to drive, cheap on gas too :-)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
>> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
>> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
>> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
>> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front
>> drive car
>> was a surprise.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:461c19b9$0$4000$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>
>>> It 'sure' takes practice to be comfortable 'on the gas' in situations
>>> like that doesn't it.
>>>
>>> I grew up in an ice storm central area so learned young. :-)
>>>
>>> I used to take out groups here to the local mud pits come first freeze
>>> up to learn how to feel comfortable running pit walls up and down in
>>> snow and ice. I recommend that to all. At least practice in an empty
>>> parking lot come first snow.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I had had the nerve to goose the accelerator a little I know I could
>>
>> have
>>
>>>> pulled right out of it. What I did was stay off the brakes and steer
>>
>> with
>>
>>>> the skid. But it over-corrected three or four times on me. San Juan
>>>> Mountains are not suitable for four wheeling yet, heh, but the snow
>>>> pack
>>
>> is
>>
>>>> pretty light. Look for a good year, but you might have to pack water
>>
>> and
>>
>>>> there may be camping restrictions like there were five years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:461c005f$0$16263$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but you are a zillion time closer to control than most
>>
>> passenger
>>
>>>>> cars.
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>>>> news:SNWdnVkTQPPDP4bbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> I hit a long downhill stretch of semi-frozen slush Sunday with the
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrangler
>>>>>
>>>>>> in four wheel drive. Amazing how the front and rear want to switch
>>>>>
>>>>> places,
>>>>>
>>>>>> even with open differentials.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
roads too.
Mike
FrankW wrote:
> LOL Reminds me of my 72 Super Beetle VW.
> I used to rip around on the frozen river, up and down the
> snowmobile trails....etc (my young rebel days)
> Other than my Jeep that car was a hoot to drive, cheap on gas too :-)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
>> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
>> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
>> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
>> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front
>> drive car
>> was a surprise.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:461c19b9$0$4000$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>
>>> It 'sure' takes practice to be comfortable 'on the gas' in situations
>>> like that doesn't it.
>>>
>>> I grew up in an ice storm central area so learned young. :-)
>>>
>>> I used to take out groups here to the local mud pits come first freeze
>>> up to learn how to feel comfortable running pit walls up and down in
>>> snow and ice. I recommend that to all. At least practice in an empty
>>> parking lot come first snow.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I had had the nerve to goose the accelerator a little I know I could
>>
>> have
>>
>>>> pulled right out of it. What I did was stay off the brakes and steer
>>
>> with
>>
>>>> the skid. But it over-corrected three or four times on me. San Juan
>>>> Mountains are not suitable for four wheeling yet, heh, but the snow
>>>> pack
>>
>> is
>>
>>>> pretty light. Look for a good year, but you might have to pack water
>>
>> and
>>
>>>> there may be camping restrictions like there were five years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:461c005f$0$16263$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but you are a zillion time closer to control than most
>>
>> passenger
>>
>>>>> cars.
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>>>> news:SNWdnVkTQPPDP4bbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> I hit a long downhill stretch of semi-frozen slush Sunday with the
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrangler
>>>>>
>>>>>> in four wheel drive. Amazing how the front and rear want to switch
>>>>>
>>>>> places,
>>>>>
>>>>>> even with open differentials.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
04-11-2007, 09:00 AM
#138
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: YJ front locker?
I had a 68 VW that was too much fun on snowmobile trails and logging
roads too.
Mike
FrankW wrote:
> LOL Reminds me of my 72 Super Beetle VW.
> I used to rip around on the frozen river, up and down the
> snowmobile trails....etc (my young rebel days)
> Other than my Jeep that car was a hoot to drive, cheap on gas too :-)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
>> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
>> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
>> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
>> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front
>> drive car
>> was a surprise.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:461c19b9$0$4000$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>
>>> It 'sure' takes practice to be comfortable 'on the gas' in situations
>>> like that doesn't it.
>>>
>>> I grew up in an ice storm central area so learned young. :-)
>>>
>>> I used to take out groups here to the local mud pits come first freeze
>>> up to learn how to feel comfortable running pit walls up and down in
>>> snow and ice. I recommend that to all. At least practice in an empty
>>> parking lot come first snow.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I had had the nerve to goose the accelerator a little I know I could
>>
>> have
>>
>>>> pulled right out of it. What I did was stay off the brakes and steer
>>
>> with
>>
>>>> the skid. But it over-corrected three or four times on me. San Juan
>>>> Mountains are not suitable for four wheeling yet, heh, but the snow
>>>> pack
>>
>> is
>>
>>>> pretty light. Look for a good year, but you might have to pack water
>>
>> and
>>
>>>> there may be camping restrictions like there were five years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:461c005f$0$16263$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but you are a zillion time closer to control than most
>>
>> passenger
>>
>>>>> cars.
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>>>> news:SNWdnVkTQPPDP4bbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> I hit a long downhill stretch of semi-frozen slush Sunday with the
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrangler
>>>>>
>>>>>> in four wheel drive. Amazing how the front and rear want to switch
>>>>>
>>>>> places,
>>>>>
>>>>>> even with open differentials.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
roads too.
Mike
FrankW wrote:
> LOL Reminds me of my 72 Super Beetle VW.
> I used to rip around on the frozen river, up and down the
> snowmobile trails....etc (my young rebel days)
> Other than my Jeep that car was a hoot to drive, cheap on gas too :-)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
>> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
>> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
>> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
>> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front
>> drive car
>> was a surprise.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:461c19b9$0$4000$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>
>>> It 'sure' takes practice to be comfortable 'on the gas' in situations
>>> like that doesn't it.
>>>
>>> I grew up in an ice storm central area so learned young. :-)
>>>
>>> I used to take out groups here to the local mud pits come first freeze
>>> up to learn how to feel comfortable running pit walls up and down in
>>> snow and ice. I recommend that to all. At least practice in an empty
>>> parking lot come first snow.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I had had the nerve to goose the accelerator a little I know I could
>>
>> have
>>
>>>> pulled right out of it. What I did was stay off the brakes and steer
>>
>> with
>>
>>>> the skid. But it over-corrected three or four times on me. San Juan
>>>> Mountains are not suitable for four wheeling yet, heh, but the snow
>>>> pack
>>
>> is
>>
>>>> pretty light. Look for a good year, but you might have to pack water
>>
>> and
>>
>>>> there may be camping restrictions like there were five years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:461c005f$0$16263$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but you are a zillion time closer to control than most
>>
>> passenger
>>
>>>>> cars.
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>>>> news:SNWdnVkTQPPDP4bbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> I hit a long downhill stretch of semi-frozen slush Sunday with the
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrangler
>>>>>
>>>>>> in four wheel drive. Amazing how the front and rear want to switch
>>>>>
>>>>> places,
>>>>>
>>>>>> even with open differentials.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
04-11-2007, 09:00 AM
#139
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: YJ front locker?
I had a 68 VW that was too much fun on snowmobile trails and logging
roads too.
Mike
FrankW wrote:
> LOL Reminds me of my 72 Super Beetle VW.
> I used to rip around on the frozen river, up and down the
> snowmobile trails....etc (my young rebel days)
> Other than my Jeep that car was a hoot to drive, cheap on gas too :-)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
>> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
>> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
>> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
>> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front
>> drive car
>> was a surprise.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:461c19b9$0$4000$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>
>>> It 'sure' takes practice to be comfortable 'on the gas' in situations
>>> like that doesn't it.
>>>
>>> I grew up in an ice storm central area so learned young. :-)
>>>
>>> I used to take out groups here to the local mud pits come first freeze
>>> up to learn how to feel comfortable running pit walls up and down in
>>> snow and ice. I recommend that to all. At least practice in an empty
>>> parking lot come first snow.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I had had the nerve to goose the accelerator a little I know I could
>>
>> have
>>
>>>> pulled right out of it. What I did was stay off the brakes and steer
>>
>> with
>>
>>>> the skid. But it over-corrected three or four times on me. San Juan
>>>> Mountains are not suitable for four wheeling yet, heh, but the snow
>>>> pack
>>
>> is
>>
>>>> pretty light. Look for a good year, but you might have to pack water
>>
>> and
>>
>>>> there may be camping restrictions like there were five years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:461c005f$0$16263$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but you are a zillion time closer to control than most
>>
>> passenger
>>
>>>>> cars.
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>>>> news:SNWdnVkTQPPDP4bbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> I hit a long downhill stretch of semi-frozen slush Sunday with the
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrangler
>>>>>
>>>>>> in four wheel drive. Amazing how the front and rear want to switch
>>>>>
>>>>> places,
>>>>>
>>>>>> even with open differentials.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
roads too.
Mike
FrankW wrote:
> LOL Reminds me of my 72 Super Beetle VW.
> I used to rip around on the frozen river, up and down the
> snowmobile trails....etc (my young rebel days)
> Other than my Jeep that car was a hoot to drive, cheap on gas too :-)
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>
>> I "practiced" in a 1962 Volkswagen sedan with five people in it, wow
>> thirty-five years ago or more. Lost it halfway down a long icy hill in
>> Western Massachusetts, women screaming in the back, guy in the middle
>> saying, "Easy Earle, you've got it now". Steer with the skid and you are
>> OK. The first time trying to slow with engine braking in a front
>> drive car
>> was a surprise.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:461c19b9$0$4000$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshostin g.com...
>>
>>> It 'sure' takes practice to be comfortable 'on the gas' in situations
>>> like that doesn't it.
>>>
>>> I grew up in an ice storm central area so learned young. :-)
>>>
>>> I used to take out groups here to the local mud pits come first freeze
>>> up to learn how to feel comfortable running pit walls up and down in
>>> snow and ice. I recommend that to all. At least practice in an empty
>>> parking lot come first snow.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>> Earle Horton wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I had had the nerve to goose the accelerator a little I know I could
>>
>> have
>>
>>>> pulled right out of it. What I did was stay off the brakes and steer
>>
>> with
>>
>>>> the skid. But it over-corrected three or four times on me. San Juan
>>>> Mountains are not suitable for four wheeling yet, heh, but the snow
>>>> pack
>>
>> is
>>
>>>> pretty light. Look for a good year, but you might have to pack water
>>
>> and
>>
>>>> there may be camping restrictions like there were five years ago.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>> "L.W. (Bill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:461c005f$0$16263$88260bb3@free.teranews.com.. .
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but you are a zillion time closer to control than most
>>
>> passenger
>>
>>>>> cars.
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0
>>>>> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Earle Horton" <apodo@gracioso.usa> wrote in message
>>>>> news:SNWdnVkTQPPDP4bbnZ2dnUVZ_qOpnZ2d@comcast.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> I hit a long downhill stretch of semi-frozen slush Sunday with the
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrangler
>>>>>
>>>>>> in four wheel drive. Amazing how the front and rear want to switch
>>>>>
>>>>> places,
>>>>>
>>>>>> even with open differentials.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
04-11-2007, 09:02 AM
#140
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: YJ front locker?
On Apr 10, 12:23 pm, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> "SkyKing49" <rebel...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1176221330.631546.116950@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 10:41 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> > > "Will Honea" <who...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:461b1f13$0$494$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > > ...
>
> > > > After my first (and last) encounter with 3 inches ofsnowover an
> > > > inch of ice, the front posi came out but that was preference, not
> > > > necessity or ill mannered steering.
>
> > > I hit a long downhill stretch of semi-frozen slush Sunday with the
> > >Wranglerin four wheel drive. Amazing how the front and rear
> > > want to switch places, even with open differentials.
>
> > > Earle
>
> > I live in New England and drive in snow and semi-frozen slush a lot
> > and I have yet to spin out or have a problem. Maybe speed was an
> > issue.
>
> Duh.
Another failure linked to our education system
>
> Earle- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
> "SkyKing49" <rebel...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>
> news:1176221330.631546.116950@d57g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Apr 10, 10:41 am, "Earle Horton" <a...@gracioso.usa> wrote:
> > > "Will Honea" <who...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:461b1f13$0$494$815e3792@news.qwest.net...
> > > ...
>
> > > > After my first (and last) encounter with 3 inches ofsnowover an
> > > > inch of ice, the front posi came out but that was preference, not
> > > > necessity or ill mannered steering.
>
> > > I hit a long downhill stretch of semi-frozen slush Sunday with the
> > >Wranglerin four wheel drive. Amazing how the front and rear
> > > want to switch places, even with open differentials.
>
> > > Earle
>
> > I live in New England and drive in snow and semi-frozen slush a lot
> > and I have yet to spin out or have a problem. Maybe speed was an
> > issue.
>
> Duh.
Another failure linked to our education system
>
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