Unless your driving a Ford, that gets the same ten miles to the
gallon with or without the Jeep hooked to it, climbing up and over a
mile high mountain to get to the desert.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
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bllsht wrote:
>
> If nothing else, you'd sure slow down in a hurry when you let off the gas! :-)

 

Unless your driving a Ford, that gets the same ten miles to the
gallon with or without the Jeep hooked to it, climbing up and over a
mile high mountain to get to the desert.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

bllsht wrote:
>
> If nothing else, you'd sure slow down in a hurry when you let off the gas! :-)

 

Thank you Mike and to everyone else that have responded to my
question, I've learned a lot.

He checked it out this weekend and found it's leaking from the head
gasket. Sometime in the next few weeks he'll tow it back home where we
can work on it in the garage and figure out what else if anything is
broken. I'll re-post when we know.

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 08:20:11 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>One could have rotted away and just decided to blow I guess or blown
>from vibration. If that's the case, all of them need changing ASAP. It
>takes some nasty corrosion to rot them.
>
>Unfortunately there is/was no pressure or anything to 'build up' to
>cause one to go.
>
>They are cheap at least, but not very accessible. 2 of them are on the
>back of the engine, one under the tranny bell housing.
>
>Can he not just take a look at the block to see if there is a big
>freaking hole there or a nasty crack?
>
>Antifreeze also runs through the intake manifold. There is a hose
>fitting at the back drivers side. Maybe that let go?
>
>It really shouldn't be hard to see where the fluid is coming from.....
>
>Mike

 

Thank you Mike and to everyone else that have responded to my
question, I've learned a lot.

He checked it out this weekend and found it's leaking from the head
gasket. Sometime in the next few weeks he'll tow it back home where we
can work on it in the garage and figure out what else if anything is
broken. I'll re-post when we know.

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 08:20:11 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>One could have rotted away and just decided to blow I guess or blown
>from vibration. If that's the case, all of them need changing ASAP. It
>takes some nasty corrosion to rot them.
>
>Unfortunately there is/was no pressure or anything to 'build up' to
>cause one to go.
>
>They are cheap at least, but not very accessible. 2 of them are on the
>back of the engine, one under the tranny bell housing.
>
>Can he not just take a look at the block to see if there is a big
>freaking hole there or a nasty crack?
>
>Antifreeze also runs through the intake manifold. There is a hose
>fitting at the back drivers side. Maybe that let go?
>
>It really shouldn't be hard to see where the fluid is coming from.....
>
>Mike

 

Dave (and everyone else who contributed to the thread), we checked out
the Jeep this weekend and found the water is leaking from the water
pump. Checked the oil and it's black, no trace of water I could see.
We replaced the water pump, oil, and filter. It starts and runs but we
have bluish-white smoke coming from the tailpipe. If we accelerate the
smoke turns darker grey. It's run several minutes and doesn't get any
better. Since it's white, does that indicate water getting into the
cylinders?

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:32:20 GMT, "Dave Milne"
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:

>where exactly is it leaking from ? Is there obvious damage to
>the engine or rad pipes ?
>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
>> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
>> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
>> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
>> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
>> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
>> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
>> if you think he's trashed the engine?
>

 

Dave (and everyone else who contributed to the thread), we checked out
the Jeep this weekend and found the water is leaking from the water
pump. Checked the oil and it's black, no trace of water I could see.
We replaced the water pump, oil, and filter. It starts and runs but we
have bluish-white smoke coming from the tailpipe. If we accelerate the
smoke turns darker grey. It's run several minutes and doesn't get any
better. Since it's white, does that indicate water getting into the
cylinders?

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:32:20 GMT, "Dave Milne"
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:

>where exactly is it leaking from ? Is there obvious damage to
>the engine or rad pipes ?
>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
>> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
>> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
>> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
>> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
>> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
>> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
>> if you think he's trashed the engine?
>

 

Dave (and everyone else who contributed to the thread), we checked out
the Jeep this weekend and found the water is leaking from the water
pump. Checked the oil and it's black, no trace of water I could see.
We replaced the water pump, oil, and filter. It starts and runs but we
have bluish-white smoke coming from the tailpipe. If we accelerate the
smoke turns darker grey. It's run several minutes and doesn't get any
better. Since it's white, does that indicate water getting into the
cylinders?

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:32:20 GMT, "Dave Milne"
<jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:

>where exactly is it leaking from ? Is there obvious damage to
>the engine or rad pipes ?
>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>
>> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
>> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
>> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
>> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
>> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
>> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
>> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
>> if you think he's trashed the engine?
>

 

I think it is supposed to be towed in gear, with the transfer case in
neutral. At least that's what owner's manual said for my '89 wrangler. You
might pull the plugs and see if one or more looks wet from coolant. If so,
you know the head gasket is leaking...Also, with plugs out, crank engine and
see if anything squirts.....Doesn't take much of a leak to cause white
"smoke."
<dgassocdelete@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:koh0t0hh8o3o3g17bbt9g4qss5l8p0jgdc@4ax.com...
> Dave (and everyone else who contributed to the thread), we checked out
> the Jeep this weekend and found the water is leaking from the water
> pump. Checked the oil and it's black, no trace of water I could see.
> We replaced the water pump, oil, and filter. It starts and runs but we
> have bluish-white smoke coming from the tailpipe. If we accelerate the
> smoke turns darker grey. It's run several minutes and doesn't get any
> better. Since it's white, does that indicate water getting into the
> cylinders?
>
> On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:32:20 GMT, "Dave Milne"
> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
>
> >where exactly is it leaking from ? Is there obvious damage to
> >the engine or rad pipes ?
> >
> >Dave Milne, Scotland
> >'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?
> >
>

 

I think it is supposed to be towed in gear, with the transfer case in
neutral. At least that's what owner's manual said for my '89 wrangler. You
might pull the plugs and see if one or more looks wet from coolant. If so,
you know the head gasket is leaking...Also, with plugs out, crank engine and
see if anything squirts.....Doesn't take much of a leak to cause white
"smoke."
<dgassocdelete@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:koh0t0hh8o3o3g17bbt9g4qss5l8p0jgdc@4ax.com...
> Dave (and everyone else who contributed to the thread), we checked out
> the Jeep this weekend and found the water is leaking from the water
> pump. Checked the oil and it's black, no trace of water I could see.
> We replaced the water pump, oil, and filter. It starts and runs but we
> have bluish-white smoke coming from the tailpipe. If we accelerate the
> smoke turns darker grey. It's run several minutes and doesn't get any
> better. Since it's white, does that indicate water getting into the
> cylinders?
>
> On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:32:20 GMT, "Dave Milne"
> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
>
> >where exactly is it leaking from ? Is there obvious damage to
> >the engine or rad pipes ?
> >
> >Dave Milne, Scotland
> >'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?
> >
>

 

I think it is supposed to be towed in gear, with the transfer case in
neutral. At least that's what owner's manual said for my '89 wrangler. You
might pull the plugs and see if one or more looks wet from coolant. If so,
you know the head gasket is leaking...Also, with plugs out, crank engine and
see if anything squirts.....Doesn't take much of a leak to cause white
"smoke."
<dgassocdelete@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:koh0t0hh8o3o3g17bbt9g4qss5l8p0jgdc@4ax.com...
> Dave (and everyone else who contributed to the thread), we checked out
> the Jeep this weekend and found the water is leaking from the water
> pump. Checked the oil and it's black, no trace of water I could see.
> We replaced the water pump, oil, and filter. It starts and runs but we
> have bluish-white smoke coming from the tailpipe. If we accelerate the
> smoke turns darker grey. It's run several minutes and doesn't get any
> better. Since it's white, does that indicate water getting into the
> cylinders?
>
> On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:32:20 GMT, "Dave Milne"
> <jeep@_nospam_milne.info> wrote:
>
> >where exactly is it leaking from ? Is there obvious damage to
> >the engine or rad pipes ?
> >
> >Dave Milne, Scotland
> >'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> >
> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?
> >
>