wrangler towed in gear
 

My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
if you think he's trashed the engine?

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 

Somehow??

dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:

> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> if you think he's trashed the engine?

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tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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Re: wrangler towed in gear
 

Somehow??

dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:

> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> if you think he's trashed the engine?

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 

Somehow??

dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:

> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> if you think he's trashed the engine?

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

71 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 

Ah, ya right......

You have to be kidding right?

There is something really wrong with your post.

There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
gear. Or even one mile for that matter.

Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?

The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....

That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.

That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.

I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
a/the hole.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>
> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> if you think he's trashed the engine?

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 

Ah, ya right......

You have to be kidding right?

There is something really wrong with your post.

There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
gear. Or even one mile for that matter.

Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?

The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....

That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.

That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.

I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
a/the hole.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>
> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> if you think he's trashed the engine?

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 

Ah, ya right......

You have to be kidding right?

There is something really wrong with your post.

There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
gear. Or even one mile for that matter.

Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?

The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....

That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.

That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.

I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
a/the hole.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>
> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> if you think he's trashed the engine?

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:33:52 GMT, twaldron
<thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:

>Somehow??
>

When he left, I released the parking brake, pressed the clutch, moved
the shifter to the middle position and jiggled it left and right, and
by how easily it moved I knew it was not in gear at that time. When he
pulled away, the jeep appeared to jerk a little but that stopped and
it seemed to be towing normally at that point.

The vehicle he was towing it with was angled a little so when it took
off, the jeep was pulled slightly to the left as it took off.

I've driven this jeep and many other vehicles with manual
transmissions before so I know was in neutral when it left here. He
didn't make any stops on the way. I know it can't just put itself in
gear, so either it was Halloween or just a bad dream or maybe it
wasn't really in neutral when it left (which I'm pretty confident it
was in neutral). I've thought about it a lot since then and can't
figure out what happened.

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:33:52 GMT, twaldron
<thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:

>Somehow??
>

When he left, I released the parking brake, pressed the clutch, moved
the shifter to the middle position and jiggled it left and right, and
by how easily it moved I knew it was not in gear at that time. When he
pulled away, the jeep appeared to jerk a little but that stopped and
it seemed to be towing normally at that point.

The vehicle he was towing it with was angled a little so when it took
off, the jeep was pulled slightly to the left as it took off.

I've driven this jeep and many other vehicles with manual
transmissions before so I know was in neutral when it left here. He
didn't make any stops on the way. I know it can't just put itself in
gear, so either it was Halloween or just a bad dream or maybe it
wasn't really in neutral when it left (which I'm pretty confident it
was in neutral). I've thought about it a lot since then and can't
figure out what happened.

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:33:52 GMT, twaldron
<thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:

>Somehow??
>

When he left, I released the parking brake, pressed the clutch, moved
the shifter to the middle position and jiggled it left and right, and
by how easily it moved I knew it was not in gear at that time. When he
pulled away, the jeep appeared to jerk a little but that stopped and
it seemed to be towing normally at that point.

The vehicle he was towing it with was angled a little so when it took
off, the jeep was pulled slightly to the left as it took off.

I've driven this jeep and many other vehicles with manual
transmissions before so I know was in neutral when it left here. He
didn't make any stops on the way. I know it can't just put itself in
gear, so either it was Halloween or just a bad dream or maybe it
wasn't really in neutral when it left (which I'm pretty confident it
was in neutral). I've thought about it a lot since then and can't
figure out what happened.