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L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-04-2004 01:05 AM

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 
I guess you've never owned a Ford V8.
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bllsht wrote:
>
> I guess it's possible. I'm just having a problem believing somebody could tow a
> vehicle in gear without noticing it, let alone going 100 miles like that.


L.W.(=?iso-8859-1?Q?=DFill?=) Hughes III 11-04-2004 01:05 AM

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 
I guess you've never owned a Ford V8.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

bllsht wrote:
>
> I guess it's possible. I'm just having a problem believing somebody could tow a
> vehicle in gear without noticing it, let alone going 100 miles like that.


Dave Milne 11-04-2004 03:44 AM

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 
can't see it either - there would be a hell of a vibration at the least
surely ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:daejo0p8fgdf6bd9albs0---6dr70ajhdu@4ax.com...
> I guess it's possible. I'm just having a problem believing somebody could

tow a
> vehicle in gear without noticing it, let alone going 100 miles like that.




Dave Milne 11-04-2004 03:44 AM

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 
can't see it either - there would be a hell of a vibration at the least
surely ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
news:daejo0p8fgdf6bd9albs0---6dr70ajhdu@4ax.com...
> I guess it's possible. I'm just having a problem believing somebody could

tow a
> vehicle in gear without noticing it, let alone going 100 miles like that.




Mike Romain 11-04-2004 08:46 AM

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 
Now that we agree on! LOL!

Mike

bllsht wrote:
>
> I guess it's possible. I'm just having a problem believing somebody could tow a
> vehicle in gear without noticing it, let alone going 100 miles like that.
>
> In message <4188DD30.5F47007A@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>
> >What about gas wash causing the rings to seize up?
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >bllsht wrote:
> >>
> >> In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
> >>
> >> >Ah, ya right......
> >> >
> >> >You have to be kidding right?
> >> >
> >> >There is something really wrong with your post.
> >> >
> >> >There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
> >> >gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
> >> >
> >> >Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
> >> >
> >> >The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
> >> >
> >> >That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
> >> >on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
> >> >something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
> >> >
> >> >That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
> >> >lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
> >>
> >> There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
> >> pumping!
> >>
> >> Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
> >>
> >> >
> >> >I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
> >> >a/the hole.
> >> >
> >> >Mike
> >> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> >> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> >> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> >> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> >> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> >> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> >> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> >> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?


Mike Romain 11-04-2004 08:46 AM

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 
Now that we agree on! LOL!

Mike

bllsht wrote:
>
> I guess it's possible. I'm just having a problem believing somebody could tow a
> vehicle in gear without noticing it, let alone going 100 miles like that.
>
> In message <4188DD30.5F47007A@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>
> >What about gas wash causing the rings to seize up?
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >bllsht wrote:
> >>
> >> In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
> >>
> >> >Ah, ya right......
> >> >
> >> >You have to be kidding right?
> >> >
> >> >There is something really wrong with your post.
> >> >
> >> >There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
> >> >gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
> >> >
> >> >Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
> >> >
> >> >The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
> >> >
> >> >That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
> >> >on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
> >> >something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
> >> >
> >> >That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
> >> >lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
> >>
> >> There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
> >> pumping!
> >>
> >> Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
> >>
> >> >
> >> >I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
> >> >a/the hole.
> >> >
> >> >Mike
> >> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >> >
> >> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> >> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> >> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> >> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> >> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> >> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> >> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> >> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?


bllsht 11-04-2004 10:41 PM

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 
If nothing else, you'd sure slow down in a hurry when you let off the gas! :-)

In message <SZlid.6506$up1.3754@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk> , "Dave Milne"
wrote:

>can't see it either - there would be a hell of a vibration at the least
>surely ?
>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>news:daejo0p8fgdf6bd9albs0---6dr70ajhdu@4ax.com.. .
>> I guess it's possible. I'm just having a problem believing somebody could

>tow a
>> vehicle in gear without noticing it, let alone going 100 miles like that.

>



bllsht 11-04-2004 10:41 PM

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 
If nothing else, you'd sure slow down in a hurry when you let off the gas! :-)

In message <SZlid.6506$up1.3754@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk> , "Dave Milne"
wrote:

>can't see it either - there would be a hell of a vibration at the least
>surely ?
>
>Dave Milne, Scotland
>'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
>"bllsht" <nospam@invaliddot.net> wrote in message
>news:daejo0p8fgdf6bd9albs0---6dr70ajhdu@4ax.com.. .
>> I guess it's possible. I'm just having a problem believing somebody could

>tow a
>> vehicle in gear without noticing it, let alone going 100 miles like that.

>



bllsht 11-04-2004 10:41 PM

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 
What's the world coming to? :-)


In message <418A32AC.BAF54391@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:

>Now that we agree on! LOL!
>
>Mike
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> I guess it's possible. I'm just having a problem believing somebody could tow a
>> vehicle in gear without noticing it, let alone going 100 miles like that.
>>
>> In message <4188DD30.5F47007A@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>>
>> >What about gas wash causing the rings to seize up?
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >
>> >bllsht wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Ah, ya right......
>> >> >
>> >> >You have to be kidding right?
>> >> >
>> >> >There is something really wrong with your post.
>> >> >
>> >> >There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
>> >> >gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>> >> >
>> >> >Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>> >> >
>> >> >The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>> >> >
>> >> >That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
>> >> >on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
>> >> >something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>> >> >
>> >> >That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
>> >> >lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>> >>
>> >> There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
>> >> pumping!
>> >>
>> >> Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
>> >> >a/the hole.
>> >> >
>> >> >Mike
>> >> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
>> >> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
>> >> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
>> >> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
>> >> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
>> >> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
>> >> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
>> >> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?



bllsht 11-04-2004 10:41 PM

Re: wrangler towed in gear
 
What's the world coming to? :-)


In message <418A32AC.BAF54391@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:

>Now that we agree on! LOL!
>
>Mike
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> I guess it's possible. I'm just having a problem believing somebody could tow a
>> vehicle in gear without noticing it, let alone going 100 miles like that.
>>
>> In message <4188DD30.5F47007A@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>>
>> >What about gas wash causing the rings to seize up?
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >
>> >bllsht wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Ah, ya right......
>> >> >
>> >> >You have to be kidding right?
>> >> >
>> >> >There is something really wrong with your post.
>> >> >
>> >> >There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
>> >> >gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>> >> >
>> >> >Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>> >> >
>> >> >The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>> >> >
>> >> >That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
>> >> >on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
>> >> >something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>> >> >
>> >> >That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
>> >> >lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>> >>
>> >> There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
>> >> pumping!
>> >>
>> >> Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
>> >> >a/the hole.
>> >> >
>> >> >Mike
>> >> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >> >
>> >> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
>> >> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
>> >> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
>> >> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
>> >> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
>> >> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
>> >> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
>> >> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?




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