wrangler towed in gear
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>Ah, ya right......
>
>You have to be kidding right?
>
>There is something really wrong with your post.
>
>There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
>gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>
>Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>
>The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>
>That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
>on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
>something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>
>That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
>lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
pumping!
Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>
>I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
>a/the hole.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>>
>> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
>> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
>> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
>> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
>> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
>> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
>> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
>> if you think he's trashed the engine?
>Ah, ya right......
>
>You have to be kidding right?
>
>There is something really wrong with your post.
>
>There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
>gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>
>Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>
>The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>
>That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
>on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
>something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>
>That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
>lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
pumping!
Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>
>I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
>a/the hole.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>>
>> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
>> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
>> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
>> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
>> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
>> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
>> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
>> if you think he's trashed the engine?
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>Ah, ya right......
>
>You have to be kidding right?
>
>There is something really wrong with your post.
>
>There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
>gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>
>Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>
>The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>
>That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
>on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
>something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>
>That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
>lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
pumping!
Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>
>I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
>a/the hole.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>>
>> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
>> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
>> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
>> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
>> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
>> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
>> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
>> if you think he's trashed the engine?
>Ah, ya right......
>
>You have to be kidding right?
>
>There is something really wrong with your post.
>
>There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
>gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>
>Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>
>The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>
>That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
>on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
>something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>
>That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
>lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
pumping!
Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>
>I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
>a/the hole.
>
>Mike
>86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
>dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>>
>> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
>> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
>> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
>> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
>> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
>> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
>> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
>> if you think he's trashed the engine?
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
One could have rotted away and just decided to blow I guess or blown
from vibration. If that's the case, all of them need changing ASAP. It
takes some nasty corrosion to rot them.
Unfortunately there is/was no pressure or anything to 'build up' to
cause one to go.
They are cheap at least, but not very accessible. 2 of them are on the
back of the engine, one under the tranny bell housing.
Can he not just take a look at the block to see if there is a big
freaking hole there or a nasty crack?
Antifreeze also runs through the intake manifold. There is a hose
fitting at the back drivers side. Maybe that let go?
It really shouldn't be hard to see where the fluid is coming from.....
Mike
dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>
> I don't *think* so, temps were in the low 50's. He was able to start
> the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
> the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
> there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
> that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
>
> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:14:30 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Is there a chance the thing froze up during the tow?
> >
> >You folks are talking the same part, the casting plugs in the side and
> >end of the block. Commonly known as frost plugs or freeze plugs or that
> >hole you put a block heater into....
> >
> >Buddy could be lucky and one coincidentally decided to let go???
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> >>
> >> I may be thinking about on other vehicles, my mom's old '64 Comet had
> >> a freeze plug that was meant to pop out hopefully before the block
> >> cracked in case the engine froze. I've got a service manual and will
> >> see what it says.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:52:34 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Not sure what you mean by "freeze plug" but with my '88 YJ ...I was driving
> >> >down the street one day and blew the lock heater plug out of the side of my
> >> >block and blew coolant all over the street until she started to overheat and
> >> >stall. Maybe that's it? Maybe that's what you mean by "freeze plug"? On my
> >> >YJ it was located on the driver side on the lower half of the engine.
> >> >Definitely don't drive it tho!
from vibration. If that's the case, all of them need changing ASAP. It
takes some nasty corrosion to rot them.
Unfortunately there is/was no pressure or anything to 'build up' to
cause one to go.
They are cheap at least, but not very accessible. 2 of them are on the
back of the engine, one under the tranny bell housing.
Can he not just take a look at the block to see if there is a big
freaking hole there or a nasty crack?
Antifreeze also runs through the intake manifold. There is a hose
fitting at the back drivers side. Maybe that let go?
It really shouldn't be hard to see where the fluid is coming from.....
Mike
dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>
> I don't *think* so, temps were in the low 50's. He was able to start
> the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
> the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
> there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
> that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
>
> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:14:30 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Is there a chance the thing froze up during the tow?
> >
> >You folks are talking the same part, the casting plugs in the side and
> >end of the block. Commonly known as frost plugs or freeze plugs or that
> >hole you put a block heater into....
> >
> >Buddy could be lucky and one coincidentally decided to let go???
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> >>
> >> I may be thinking about on other vehicles, my mom's old '64 Comet had
> >> a freeze plug that was meant to pop out hopefully before the block
> >> cracked in case the engine froze. I've got a service manual and will
> >> see what it says.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:52:34 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Not sure what you mean by "freeze plug" but with my '88 YJ ...I was driving
> >> >down the street one day and blew the lock heater plug out of the side of my
> >> >block and blew coolant all over the street until she started to overheat and
> >> >stall. Maybe that's it? Maybe that's what you mean by "freeze plug"? On my
> >> >YJ it was located on the driver side on the lower half of the engine.
> >> >Definitely don't drive it tho!
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
One could have rotted away and just decided to blow I guess or blown
from vibration. If that's the case, all of them need changing ASAP. It
takes some nasty corrosion to rot them.
Unfortunately there is/was no pressure or anything to 'build up' to
cause one to go.
They are cheap at least, but not very accessible. 2 of them are on the
back of the engine, one under the tranny bell housing.
Can he not just take a look at the block to see if there is a big
freaking hole there or a nasty crack?
Antifreeze also runs through the intake manifold. There is a hose
fitting at the back drivers side. Maybe that let go?
It really shouldn't be hard to see where the fluid is coming from.....
Mike
dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>
> I don't *think* so, temps were in the low 50's. He was able to start
> the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
> the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
> there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
> that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
>
> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:14:30 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Is there a chance the thing froze up during the tow?
> >
> >You folks are talking the same part, the casting plugs in the side and
> >end of the block. Commonly known as frost plugs or freeze plugs or that
> >hole you put a block heater into....
> >
> >Buddy could be lucky and one coincidentally decided to let go???
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> >>
> >> I may be thinking about on other vehicles, my mom's old '64 Comet had
> >> a freeze plug that was meant to pop out hopefully before the block
> >> cracked in case the engine froze. I've got a service manual and will
> >> see what it says.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:52:34 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Not sure what you mean by "freeze plug" but with my '88 YJ ...I was driving
> >> >down the street one day and blew the lock heater plug out of the side of my
> >> >block and blew coolant all over the street until she started to overheat and
> >> >stall. Maybe that's it? Maybe that's what you mean by "freeze plug"? On my
> >> >YJ it was located on the driver side on the lower half of the engine.
> >> >Definitely don't drive it tho!
from vibration. If that's the case, all of them need changing ASAP. It
takes some nasty corrosion to rot them.
Unfortunately there is/was no pressure or anything to 'build up' to
cause one to go.
They are cheap at least, but not very accessible. 2 of them are on the
back of the engine, one under the tranny bell housing.
Can he not just take a look at the block to see if there is a big
freaking hole there or a nasty crack?
Antifreeze also runs through the intake manifold. There is a hose
fitting at the back drivers side. Maybe that let go?
It really shouldn't be hard to see where the fluid is coming from.....
Mike
dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>
> I don't *think* so, temps were in the low 50's. He was able to start
> the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
> the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
> there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
> that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
>
> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:14:30 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Is there a chance the thing froze up during the tow?
> >
> >You folks are talking the same part, the casting plugs in the side and
> >end of the block. Commonly known as frost plugs or freeze plugs or that
> >hole you put a block heater into....
> >
> >Buddy could be lucky and one coincidentally decided to let go???
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> >>
> >> I may be thinking about on other vehicles, my mom's old '64 Comet had
> >> a freeze plug that was meant to pop out hopefully before the block
> >> cracked in case the engine froze. I've got a service manual and will
> >> see what it says.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:52:34 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Not sure what you mean by "freeze plug" but with my '88 YJ ...I was driving
> >> >down the street one day and blew the lock heater plug out of the side of my
> >> >block and blew coolant all over the street until she started to overheat and
> >> >stall. Maybe that's it? Maybe that's what you mean by "freeze plug"? On my
> >> >YJ it was located on the driver side on the lower half of the engine.
> >> >Definitely don't drive it tho!
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
One could have rotted away and just decided to blow I guess or blown
from vibration. If that's the case, all of them need changing ASAP. It
takes some nasty corrosion to rot them.
Unfortunately there is/was no pressure or anything to 'build up' to
cause one to go.
They are cheap at least, but not very accessible. 2 of them are on the
back of the engine, one under the tranny bell housing.
Can he not just take a look at the block to see if there is a big
freaking hole there or a nasty crack?
Antifreeze also runs through the intake manifold. There is a hose
fitting at the back drivers side. Maybe that let go?
It really shouldn't be hard to see where the fluid is coming from.....
Mike
dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>
> I don't *think* so, temps were in the low 50's. He was able to start
> the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
> the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
> there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
> that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
>
> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:14:30 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Is there a chance the thing froze up during the tow?
> >
> >You folks are talking the same part, the casting plugs in the side and
> >end of the block. Commonly known as frost plugs or freeze plugs or that
> >hole you put a block heater into....
> >
> >Buddy could be lucky and one coincidentally decided to let go???
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> >>
> >> I may be thinking about on other vehicles, my mom's old '64 Comet had
> >> a freeze plug that was meant to pop out hopefully before the block
> >> cracked in case the engine froze. I've got a service manual and will
> >> see what it says.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:52:34 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Not sure what you mean by "freeze plug" but with my '88 YJ ...I was driving
> >> >down the street one day and blew the lock heater plug out of the side of my
> >> >block and blew coolant all over the street until she started to overheat and
> >> >stall. Maybe that's it? Maybe that's what you mean by "freeze plug"? On my
> >> >YJ it was located on the driver side on the lower half of the engine.
> >> >Definitely don't drive it tho!
from vibration. If that's the case, all of them need changing ASAP. It
takes some nasty corrosion to rot them.
Unfortunately there is/was no pressure or anything to 'build up' to
cause one to go.
They are cheap at least, but not very accessible. 2 of them are on the
back of the engine, one under the tranny bell housing.
Can he not just take a look at the block to see if there is a big
freaking hole there or a nasty crack?
Antifreeze also runs through the intake manifold. There is a hose
fitting at the back drivers side. Maybe that let go?
It really shouldn't be hard to see where the fluid is coming from.....
Mike
dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>
> I don't *think* so, temps were in the low 50's. He was able to start
> the engine briefly so we know it runs. Your description sounds like
> the same area where he described water leaking from. I wondered if
> there was enough pressure built up to pop one out. Here's hopin'
> that's all it is. Are those plugs hard to get or put back in?
>
> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:14:30 -0500, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >Is there a chance the thing froze up during the tow?
> >
> >You folks are talking the same part, the casting plugs in the side and
> >end of the block. Commonly known as frost plugs or freeze plugs or that
> >hole you put a block heater into....
> >
> >Buddy could be lucky and one coincidentally decided to let go???
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> >>
> >> I may be thinking about on other vehicles, my mom's old '64 Comet had
> >> a freeze plug that was meant to pop out hopefully before the block
> >> cracked in case the engine froze. I've got a service manual and will
> >> see what it says.
> >>
> >> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 04:52:34 GMT, "griffin" <gryffy@DELTHISshaw.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Not sure what you mean by "freeze plug" but with my '88 YJ ...I was driving
> >> >down the street one day and blew the lock heater plug out of the side of my
> >> >block and blew coolant all over the street until she started to overheat and
> >> >stall. Maybe that's it? Maybe that's what you mean by "freeze plug"? On my
> >> >YJ it was located on the driver side on the lower half of the engine.
> >> >Definitely don't drive it tho!
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
What about gas wash causing the rings to seize up?
Mike
bllsht wrote:
>
> In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>
> >Ah, ya right......
> >
> >You have to be kidding right?
> >
> >There is something really wrong with your post.
> >
> >There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
> >gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
> >
> >Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
> >
> >The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
> >
> >That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
> >on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
> >something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
> >
> >That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
> >lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>
> There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
> pumping!
>
> Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>
> >
> >I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
> >a/the hole.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> >>
> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?
Mike
bllsht wrote:
>
> In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>
> >Ah, ya right......
> >
> >You have to be kidding right?
> >
> >There is something really wrong with your post.
> >
> >There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
> >gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
> >
> >Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
> >
> >The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
> >
> >That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
> >on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
> >something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
> >
> >That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
> >lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>
> There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
> pumping!
>
> Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>
> >
> >I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
> >a/the hole.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> >>
> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
What about gas wash causing the rings to seize up?
Mike
bllsht wrote:
>
> In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>
> >Ah, ya right......
> >
> >You have to be kidding right?
> >
> >There is something really wrong with your post.
> >
> >There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
> >gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
> >
> >Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
> >
> >The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
> >
> >That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
> >on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
> >something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
> >
> >That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
> >lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>
> There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
> pumping!
>
> Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>
> >
> >I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
> >a/the hole.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> >>
> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?
Mike
bllsht wrote:
>
> In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>
> >Ah, ya right......
> >
> >You have to be kidding right?
> >
> >There is something really wrong with your post.
> >
> >There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
> >gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
> >
> >Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
> >
> >The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
> >
> >That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
> >on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
> >something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
> >
> >That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
> >lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>
> There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
> pumping!
>
> Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>
> >
> >I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
> >a/the hole.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> >>
> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
What about gas wash causing the rings to seize up?
Mike
bllsht wrote:
>
> In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>
> >Ah, ya right......
> >
> >You have to be kidding right?
> >
> >There is something really wrong with your post.
> >
> >There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
> >gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
> >
> >Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
> >
> >The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
> >
> >That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
> >on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
> >something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
> >
> >That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
> >lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>
> There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
> pumping!
>
> Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>
> >
> >I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
> >a/the hole.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> >>
> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?
Mike
bllsht wrote:
>
> In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>
> >Ah, ya right......
> >
> >You have to be kidding right?
> >
> >There is something really wrong with your post.
> >
> >There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
> >gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
> >
> >Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
> >
> >The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
> >
> >That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
> >on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
> >something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
> >
> >That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
> >lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>
> There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
> pumping!
>
> Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>
> >
> >I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
> >a/the hole.
> >
> >Mike
> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
> >>
> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?
Guest
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
I guess it's possible. I'm just having a problem believing somebody could tow a
vehicle in gear without noticing it, let alone going 100 miles like that.
In message <4188DD30.5F47007A@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>What about gas wash causing the rings to seize up?
>
>Mike
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>>
>> >Ah, ya right......
>> >
>> >You have to be kidding right?
>> >
>> >There is something really wrong with your post.
>> >
>> >There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
>> >gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>> >
>> >Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>> >
>> >The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>> >
>> >That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
>> >on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
>> >something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>> >
>> >That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
>> >lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>>
>> There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
>> pumping!
>>
>> Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>>
>> >
>> >I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
>> >a/the hole.
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
>> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
>> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
>> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
>> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
>> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
>> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
>> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?
vehicle in gear without noticing it, let alone going 100 miles like that.
In message <4188DD30.5F47007A@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>What about gas wash causing the rings to seize up?
>
>Mike
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>>
>> >Ah, ya right......
>> >
>> >You have to be kidding right?
>> >
>> >There is something really wrong with your post.
>> >
>> >There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
>> >gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>> >
>> >Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>> >
>> >The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>> >
>> >That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
>> >on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
>> >something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>> >
>> >That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
>> >lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>>
>> There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
>> pumping!
>>
>> Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>>
>> >
>> >I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
>> >a/the hole.
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
>> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
>> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
>> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
>> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
>> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
>> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
>> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?
Guest
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
I guess it's possible. I'm just having a problem believing somebody could tow a
vehicle in gear without noticing it, let alone going 100 miles like that.
In message <4188DD30.5F47007A@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>What about gas wash causing the rings to seize up?
>
>Mike
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>>
>> >Ah, ya right......
>> >
>> >You have to be kidding right?
>> >
>> >There is something really wrong with your post.
>> >
>> >There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
>> >gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>> >
>> >Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>> >
>> >The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>> >
>> >That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
>> >on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
>> >something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>> >
>> >That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
>> >lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>>
>> There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
>> pumping!
>>
>> Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>>
>> >
>> >I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
>> >a/the hole.
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
>> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
>> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
>> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
>> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
>> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
>> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
>> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?
vehicle in gear without noticing it, let alone going 100 miles like that.
In message <4188DD30.5F47007A@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>What about gas wash causing the rings to seize up?
>
>Mike
>
>bllsht wrote:
>>
>> In message <418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca>, "Mike Romain" wrote:
>>
>> >Ah, ya right......
>> >
>> >You have to be kidding right?
>> >
>> >There is something really wrong with your post.
>> >
>> >There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
>> >gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>> >
>> >Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>> >
>> >The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>> >
>> >That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
>> >on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
>> >something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>> >
>> >That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
>> >lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>>
>> There wouldn't be a lack of oil. If the engine is turning, the oil pump is
>> pumping!
>>
>> Unless maybe the trans accidentally put it's self in reverse! :-)
>>
>> >
>> >I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
>> >a/the hole.
>> >
>> >Mike
>> >86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> >88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> >
>> >dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
>> >> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
>> >> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
>> >> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
>> >> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
>> >> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
>> >> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
>> >> if you think he's trashed the engine?