wrangler towed in gear
11-01-2004, 11:13 AM
#11
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
I'll second that. I would say that it's quite "possible" for the stick to
slide into a gear - as my '85 CJ7's stick will slide into any gear quite
easily without depressing the clutch pedal (as long as it's parked), but the
second it did that while he was towing it, it would have created one hell of
a tug on him while he was driving. Maybe your transmission is toast, but
that likely wouldn't explain the coolant.
--
griffin
'85 Jeep CJ-7
'97 Toyota Corolla SD
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca...
> Ah, ya right......
>
> You have to be kidding right?
>
> There is something really wrong with your post.
>
> There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
> gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>
> Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>
> The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>
> That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
> on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
> something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>
> That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
> lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>
> I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
> a/the hole.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
slide into a gear - as my '85 CJ7's stick will slide into any gear quite
easily without depressing the clutch pedal (as long as it's parked), but the
second it did that while he was towing it, it would have created one hell of
a tug on him while he was driving. Maybe your transmission is toast, but
that likely wouldn't explain the coolant.
--
griffin
'85 Jeep CJ-7
'97 Toyota Corolla SD
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca...
> Ah, ya right......
>
> You have to be kidding right?
>
> There is something really wrong with your post.
>
> There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
> gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>
> Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>
> The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>
> That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
> on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
> something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>
> That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
> lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>
> I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
> a/the hole.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
11-01-2004, 11:13 AM
#12
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
I'll second that. I would say that it's quite "possible" for the stick to
slide into a gear - as my '85 CJ7's stick will slide into any gear quite
easily without depressing the clutch pedal (as long as it's parked), but the
second it did that while he was towing it, it would have created one hell of
a tug on him while he was driving. Maybe your transmission is toast, but
that likely wouldn't explain the coolant.
--
griffin
'85 Jeep CJ-7
'97 Toyota Corolla SD
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca...
> Ah, ya right......
>
> You have to be kidding right?
>
> There is something really wrong with your post.
>
> There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
> gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>
> Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>
> The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>
> That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
> on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
> something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>
> That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
> lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>
> I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
> a/the hole.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
slide into a gear - as my '85 CJ7's stick will slide into any gear quite
easily without depressing the clutch pedal (as long as it's parked), but the
second it did that while he was towing it, it would have created one hell of
a tug on him while he was driving. Maybe your transmission is toast, but
that likely wouldn't explain the coolant.
--
griffin
'85 Jeep CJ-7
'97 Toyota Corolla SD
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca...
> Ah, ya right......
>
> You have to be kidding right?
>
> There is something really wrong with your post.
>
> There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
> gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>
> Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>
> The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>
> That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
> on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
> something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>
> That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
> lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>
> I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
> a/the hole.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
11-01-2004, 11:13 AM
#13
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
I'll second that. I would say that it's quite "possible" for the stick to
slide into a gear - as my '85 CJ7's stick will slide into any gear quite
easily without depressing the clutch pedal (as long as it's parked), but the
second it did that while he was towing it, it would have created one hell of
a tug on him while he was driving. Maybe your transmission is toast, but
that likely wouldn't explain the coolant.
--
griffin
'85 Jeep CJ-7
'97 Toyota Corolla SD
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca...
> Ah, ya right......
>
> You have to be kidding right?
>
> There is something really wrong with your post.
>
> There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
> gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>
> Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>
> The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>
> That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
> on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
> something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>
> That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
> lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>
> I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
> a/the hole.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
slide into a gear - as my '85 CJ7's stick will slide into any gear quite
easily without depressing the clutch pedal (as long as it's parked), but the
second it did that while he was towing it, it would have created one hell of
a tug on him while he was driving. Maybe your transmission is toast, but
that likely wouldn't explain the coolant.
--
griffin
'85 Jeep CJ-7
'97 Toyota Corolla SD
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:418658F6.E51BBC05@sympatico.ca...
> Ah, ya right......
>
> You have to be kidding right?
>
> There is something really wrong with your post.
>
> There is no way in my mind someone could pull a Jeep for 100 miles in
> gear. Or even one mile for that matter.
>
> Have you ever tried to pull start a vehicle?
>
> The load on the tow would be phenomenal! In any gear.....
>
> That said, forcing an engine to turn over sure wouldn't have any bearing
> on leaking antifreeze unless he blew a piston rod through the block or
> something like that. Something has to be physically busted to leak.
>
> That sure could happen I guess. The piston or rod would seize due to
> lack of oil and blow apart and right out through the block.
>
> I would tell him to go have a look carefully below the manifold for
> a/the hole.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
11-01-2004, 11:37 AM
#14
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
Your transfer case is supposed to be in Neutral, transmission in a
gear or park if automatic. My Jeep has a manual transmission. I always
put the transfer case into neutral as directed by the manual. Then,
with the engine running, I put the Jeep into gear and release the
clutch to be sure it is in neutral.
Anyway, good luck, hope it does not cost too much to frepair.
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:45:51 GMT, dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:33:52 GMT, twaldron
><thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>
>>Somehow??
>>
>
>When he left, I released the parking brake, pressed the clutch, moved
>the shifter to the middle position and jiggled it left and right, and
>by how easily it moved I knew it was not in gear at that time. When he
>pulled away, the jeep appeared to jerk a little but that stopped and
>it seemed to be towing normally at that point.
>
>The vehicle he was towing it with was angled a little so when it took
>off, the jeep was pulled slightly to the left as it took off.
>
>I've driven this jeep and many other vehicles with manual
>transmissions before so I know was in neutral when it left here. He
>didn't make any stops on the way. I know it can't just put itself in
>gear, so either it was Halloween or just a bad dream or maybe it
>wasn't really in neutral when it left (which I'm pretty confident it
>was in neutral). I've thought about it a lot since then and can't
>figure out what happened.
gear or park if automatic. My Jeep has a manual transmission. I always
put the transfer case into neutral as directed by the manual. Then,
with the engine running, I put the Jeep into gear and release the
clutch to be sure it is in neutral.
Anyway, good luck, hope it does not cost too much to frepair.
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:45:51 GMT, dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:33:52 GMT, twaldron
><thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>
>>Somehow??
>>
>
>When he left, I released the parking brake, pressed the clutch, moved
>the shifter to the middle position and jiggled it left and right, and
>by how easily it moved I knew it was not in gear at that time. When he
>pulled away, the jeep appeared to jerk a little but that stopped and
>it seemed to be towing normally at that point.
>
>The vehicle he was towing it with was angled a little so when it took
>off, the jeep was pulled slightly to the left as it took off.
>
>I've driven this jeep and many other vehicles with manual
>transmissions before so I know was in neutral when it left here. He
>didn't make any stops on the way. I know it can't just put itself in
>gear, so either it was Halloween or just a bad dream or maybe it
>wasn't really in neutral when it left (which I'm pretty confident it
>was in neutral). I've thought about it a lot since then and can't
>figure out what happened.
11-01-2004, 11:37 AM
#15
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
Your transfer case is supposed to be in Neutral, transmission in a
gear or park if automatic. My Jeep has a manual transmission. I always
put the transfer case into neutral as directed by the manual. Then,
with the engine running, I put the Jeep into gear and release the
clutch to be sure it is in neutral.
Anyway, good luck, hope it does not cost too much to frepair.
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:45:51 GMT, dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:33:52 GMT, twaldron
><thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>
>>Somehow??
>>
>
>When he left, I released the parking brake, pressed the clutch, moved
>the shifter to the middle position and jiggled it left and right, and
>by how easily it moved I knew it was not in gear at that time. When he
>pulled away, the jeep appeared to jerk a little but that stopped and
>it seemed to be towing normally at that point.
>
>The vehicle he was towing it with was angled a little so when it took
>off, the jeep was pulled slightly to the left as it took off.
>
>I've driven this jeep and many other vehicles with manual
>transmissions before so I know was in neutral when it left here. He
>didn't make any stops on the way. I know it can't just put itself in
>gear, so either it was Halloween or just a bad dream or maybe it
>wasn't really in neutral when it left (which I'm pretty confident it
>was in neutral). I've thought about it a lot since then and can't
>figure out what happened.
gear or park if automatic. My Jeep has a manual transmission. I always
put the transfer case into neutral as directed by the manual. Then,
with the engine running, I put the Jeep into gear and release the
clutch to be sure it is in neutral.
Anyway, good luck, hope it does not cost too much to frepair.
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:45:51 GMT, dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:33:52 GMT, twaldron
><thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>
>>Somehow??
>>
>
>When he left, I released the parking brake, pressed the clutch, moved
>the shifter to the middle position and jiggled it left and right, and
>by how easily it moved I knew it was not in gear at that time. When he
>pulled away, the jeep appeared to jerk a little but that stopped and
>it seemed to be towing normally at that point.
>
>The vehicle he was towing it with was angled a little so when it took
>off, the jeep was pulled slightly to the left as it took off.
>
>I've driven this jeep and many other vehicles with manual
>transmissions before so I know was in neutral when it left here. He
>didn't make any stops on the way. I know it can't just put itself in
>gear, so either it was Halloween or just a bad dream or maybe it
>wasn't really in neutral when it left (which I'm pretty confident it
>was in neutral). I've thought about it a lot since then and can't
>figure out what happened.
11-01-2004, 11:37 AM
#16
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
Your transfer case is supposed to be in Neutral, transmission in a
gear or park if automatic. My Jeep has a manual transmission. I always
put the transfer case into neutral as directed by the manual. Then,
with the engine running, I put the Jeep into gear and release the
clutch to be sure it is in neutral.
Anyway, good luck, hope it does not cost too much to frepair.
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:45:51 GMT, dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:33:52 GMT, twaldron
><thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>
>>Somehow??
>>
>
>When he left, I released the parking brake, pressed the clutch, moved
>the shifter to the middle position and jiggled it left and right, and
>by how easily it moved I knew it was not in gear at that time. When he
>pulled away, the jeep appeared to jerk a little but that stopped and
>it seemed to be towing normally at that point.
>
>The vehicle he was towing it with was angled a little so when it took
>off, the jeep was pulled slightly to the left as it took off.
>
>I've driven this jeep and many other vehicles with manual
>transmissions before so I know was in neutral when it left here. He
>didn't make any stops on the way. I know it can't just put itself in
>gear, so either it was Halloween or just a bad dream or maybe it
>wasn't really in neutral when it left (which I'm pretty confident it
>was in neutral). I've thought about it a lot since then and can't
>figure out what happened.
gear or park if automatic. My Jeep has a manual transmission. I always
put the transfer case into neutral as directed by the manual. Then,
with the engine running, I put the Jeep into gear and release the
clutch to be sure it is in neutral.
Anyway, good luck, hope it does not cost too much to frepair.
On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:45:51 GMT, dgassocdelete@pobox.com wrote:
>On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:33:52 GMT, twaldron
><thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote:
>
>>Somehow??
>>
>
>When he left, I released the parking brake, pressed the clutch, moved
>the shifter to the middle position and jiggled it left and right, and
>by how easily it moved I knew it was not in gear at that time. When he
>pulled away, the jeep appeared to jerk a little but that stopped and
>it seemed to be towing normally at that point.
>
>The vehicle he was towing it with was angled a little so when it took
>off, the jeep was pulled slightly to the left as it took off.
>
>I've driven this jeep and many other vehicles with manual
>transmissions before so I know was in neutral when it left here. He
>didn't make any stops on the way. I know it can't just put itself in
>gear, so either it was Halloween or just a bad dream or maybe it
>wasn't really in neutral when it left (which I'm pretty confident it
>was in neutral). I've thought about it a lot since then and can't
>figure out what happened.
11-01-2004, 12:00 PM
#17
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
Hmmm.. I thought when you flat towed the transfer case had to be in neutral
and the tranny IN gear.
Andy
<dgassocdelete@pobox.com> wrote in message
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> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> if you think he's trashed the engine?
and the tranny IN gear.
Andy
<dgassocdelete@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:pokco0hj7uvk0bnneepmslitr5j9rmt0cg@4ax.com...
> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> if you think he's trashed the engine?
11-01-2004, 12:00 PM
#18
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
Hmmm.. I thought when you flat towed the transfer case had to be in neutral
and the tranny IN gear.
Andy
<dgassocdelete@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:pokco0hj7uvk0bnneepmslitr5j9rmt0cg@4ax.com...
> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> if you think he's trashed the engine?
and the tranny IN gear.
Andy
<dgassocdelete@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:pokco0hj7uvk0bnneepmslitr5j9rmt0cg@4ax.com...
> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> if you think he's trashed the engine?
11-01-2004, 12:00 PM
#19
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
Hmmm.. I thought when you flat towed the transfer case had to be in neutral
and the tranny IN gear.
Andy
<dgassocdelete@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:pokco0hj7uvk0bnneepmslitr5j9rmt0cg@4ax.com...
> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> if you think he's trashed the engine?
and the tranny IN gear.
Andy
<dgassocdelete@pobox.com> wrote in message
news:pokco0hj7uvk0bnneepmslitr5j9rmt0cg@4ax.com...
> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> if you think he's trashed the engine?
11-01-2004, 12:32 PM
#20
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Re: wrangler towed in gear
where exactly is it leaking from ? Is there obvious damage to
the engine or rad pipes ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> if you think he's trashed the engine?
the engine or rad pipes ?
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> My son towed his 87 Jeep Wrangler back to school yesterday using a
> towbar like he has in the past, but this time it somehow it got out of
> neutral in to a gear (I don't know which one, or how fast he was
> driving the 100 mile trip) and when he arrived it was leaking
> antifreeze from the driver side of the engine. It would start but was
> smoking. I don't know much about how it's acting now but based on what
> I've described, can anyone make a guess as to what may have blown and
> if you think he's trashed the engine?